Immigration

America Broke the Countries that Migrants in the Caravan Are Trying to Escape

The Trump administration should take them in to make amends, not spurn them

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Trump is doing everything in his power to pull up the barricades against the advancing migrant caravan from Honduras, including threatening to call up the

El Salvadorians facing deportation
JOSE CABEZAS REUTERS via Newscom

military. He is also blaming everyone and everything around him, except the real culprit: The country he leads, I note in my column at The Week.

The fact of the matter is that since the heyday of the Cold War, American missteps have done much to turn these countries into living hellholes:

The United States and the Soviet Union turned these three countries into an ideological battlefield. Cuban dictator Fidel Castro started funneling Soviet weaponry and money to not just prop up Nicaragua's left-wing Sandinista regime, but also to use that country as a launching pad for a broader regional insurgency to topple the right-wing governments in its three neighbors, as University of Virginia's John Norton Moore has written. President Ronald Reagan, eager for a showdown with the Evil Empire, responded in kind, funding the Contra insurgency against the Nicaraguan Sandinistas and paramilitary operations to prop up the U.S.-friendly regimes of El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala.

The upshot was civil war and a complete social breakdown from which these countries have never recovered.

And then Obama came along and poured gasoline on the smoldering embers.

Go here to read how.

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  1. So, the Soviets and Cubans fucked up countries and we fought against that.

    CLEARLY, we are the bad guys.

    Dalmia, you really suck at whatever your job is SUPPOSED to be. It cannot be writing cogent pieces.

    1. No one tries to escape socialism.

      1. Where was that wall thing? Not Trump’s wall, that other one.

        1. China? England?

        2. I know there’s a good functional ‘wall’ in Israel.

    2. Communist expansionism is really America’s fault, you see.

    3. Re: damikesc,

      So, the Soviets and Cubans fucked up countries and we fought against that.
      CLEARLY, we are the bad guys.

      George Washington would agree with that.

      1. That is even idiotic for you. Do you really think the communist rebels were like George Washington? I know you are a leftist but you usually are not that honest about it.

        1. He’s also a racist.

          1. Intruder alert!!! Intruder alert!!! Fire red klaxons right and blue photon cannons left!

            A model 3,666 Tulpanator Robot Anthropoid Cyborg from the future has arrived HERE, to exterminate ALL rational discourse, with grade-school insults!!! Batten the hatches, and clutch DESPERATELY, to the hope that the model 3,666 Tulpanator Robot Anthropoid Cyborg will find some grade-school site to retreat to, and leave the rest of us the Hell alone, to have adult conversations!

    4. Who is this “we”? Were you on Reagan’s staff or something?

      1. Americans you stupid fuck.

  2. Oh, so they are hellholes?
    Racist.

    1. Lol well spotted.

  3. At least blame the drug war.

    1. It hurts my brain.

    2. Re: Fist of Etiquette,

      Would that make the Trumpista case against scary brown-skinned immigrants any better, Fist?

      1. It’s interesting that your response to dehumanizing people is to dehumanize people.

        1. Re: Tulpa,

          It’s interesting that your response to dehumanizing people is to dehumanize people.

          You have an interesting knack for misconstruing everything, Tulpa. You forgot to take you Thorazine this morning, didn’t you?

          1. It’s fun to watch you scream “misconstrued!!!” when you get caught.

      2. scary brown-skinned immigrants

        The immigration debate has broken your brain as bad as Dalmia’s.

    3. It’s not their fault that they have a pleasant climate for coca production.

  4. The United States and the Soviet Union turned these three countries into an ideological battlefield.

    So, Russia should take half of the caravan?

    1. Which half? Maybe there should be a lottery?

  5. More standard-issue “America is to blame for everything bad everywhere on the planet” leftist bullshit.

    Go fuck yourself, you sorry-ass worthless cunt.

  6. the real culprit: The country he leads

    The real culprit is the politicians and their pals in the chattering class. Make them take the caravaners.

    1. Re: Enjoy Every Sandwich,

      The real culprit is the politicians and their pals in the chattering class. Make them take the caravaners.

      The MARKET ?that thing that Trumpistas (together with their brethren on the OTHER left, the Marxian left) loathe? will provide refuge and jobs to those migrants just like it always does. There are PLENTY of Americans willing to HIRE them, RENT to them, SELL to them, BUY from them and even MARRY them, which is something the white Nationalists/Nativists want to stop by imposing themselves, through violent means, between American citizens and immigrants ?see E-Verify. See how businesses are invaded by armed thugs (which some call with a very sick sense of humor “Federal Agents”) because they dare hire labor that works under the view of The Eye of Sauron.

      1. Ah, you finally admit you’re a racist.

        1. Re: Tulpa,

          Ah, you finally admit you’re a racist.

          Did you forget to take your Thorazine this morning, Tulpa? The voices in your head are flaring up again.

          NO rational person could construe what you claim from what I wrote above.

          1. Nah, you’re just a sad old fucking racist.

            “which is something the white Nationalists/Nativists want to stop by imposing themselves, through violent means, between American citizens and ”

            Your racist words, you sad old fucking racist.

            1. “It’s interesting that your response to dehumanizing people is to dehumanize people.”

              Quoting the Towering Intellectual, Tulpa The Magnificent, Legend In His Own Mind.

              Has anyone ever seen Tulpa dehumanizing other commentors on these pages, or is it my fevered imagination?

              1. I freely admit you’re a pile of garbage, and will happily call you one.

                I also do not lie about engaging in such behavior, so not only have you missed the point, you gabe me another chance to poimt out that you made a fool of yourself again.

              2. And by the way, you’re so fucking stupid that you posted that in the wrong place.

                1. “I freely admit you’re a pile of garbage, and will happily call you one.”

                  The Great Tulpa at His Finest! EVERYONE who criticizes The Great Tulpa is a piece of garbage! Those who read these pages know that VERY well already!

                  Do you think that readers flock to these pages to hear your grade-school-level, constant, vacuous potty-mouth insults? Some of us come here for thoughtful exchanges of viewpoints and information, but we have to wade through the idiotic SHIT posted by the like of YOU!

                  Your narcissistic ego needs whittled down… Again, I would urge you to read “The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil”, by M. Scott Peck. It might help salvage the dwindling remnants of your humanity.

                  1. Tulpa comments > squirrelsy comments

                    1. Nard’s nads < Amoeba's nads.

                  2. That’s a big old wall of text just to admit you were wrong.

      2. There are PLENTY of Americans willing to HIRE them, RENT to them, SELL to them, BUY from them and even MARRY them, which is something the white Nationalists/Nativists want to stop by imposing themselves, through violent means, between American citizens and immigrants ?see E-Verify. See how businesses are invaded by armed thugs (which some call with a very sick sense of humor “Federal Agents”) because they dare hire labor that works under the view of The Eye of Sauron.

        Fuck you and your desires. I have to pay for these leeches so you can have cheap nannies.

        Perhaps the market shouldn’t be distorted any time labor has any advantage in it.

        1. And everyone else should pay more for their stuff because you nativist losers can’t get it together?

          1. You can mow your own lawns and watch your own kids.

            You don’t want to? Do not whine that you aren’t allowed to bring in people we don’t want to do it cheaply for you.

            I’d like to think your kids mean more to you than to send them off to the lowest bidder…

  7. The Trump administration should take them in to make amends, not spurn them

    YES!!!!! My favorite libertarian writer hits it out of the park once again.

    Of course even if the US had nothing to do with the problems in their home countries, we should still welcome these migrants and get them registered to vote ASAP.

    #AbolishICE
    #NoBanNoWall
    #OpenBorders

    1. YES!!!!! My favorite libertarian writer hits it out of the park once again.

      +1 – Knowing the earnestness with which you advocate the politics and policies espoused by Reason.

    2. get them registered to vote

      Wouldn’t they need to be naturalized first?

  8. So Central Americans would have been better off if America had just stayed out of it and let Castro establish Communist governments in those countries? No migrant problems? Because nobody ever tries to migrate away from Communism.

    She even uses the Vietnamese boat people as an example to prove her poi…?.wait. I need to think about this some more.

    1. Re: bevis the lumberjack,

      So Central Americans would have been better off if America had just stayed out of it and let Castro establish Communist governments in those countries?

      Actually the WAR AGAINST PEOPLES’ CHOICES (a.k.a. the War on Drugs) has done more to make the crisis worse than any support for right-wing or anti-communist paramilitary forces or right-wing dictatorships, but that support certainly didn’t help people avoid being in the middle of a crossfire.

      Also, wouldn’t people escaping Communist hell-holes have a much BETTER case for asylum or refugee status (? la the Cuban boat people) than today? Trumpistas certainly don’t want to go there: say that Cubans should swim back to their shit-hole and make that country better. The only difference between one “shit-hole” and the others is POLITICS.

      She even uses the Vietnamese boat people as an example to prove her poi…?.wait. I need to think about this some more.

      That’s because 10 LONG YEARS of a murderous and destructive war the US had NO business fighting made the situation in the bitter end, for many, much WORSE than if Vietnam had been allowed to unite after the French left with their tails between their legs.

      1. No one wants to hire these people. If they did, there would be a caravan coming the other way waiting to hire them. The only people’s choice here is the choice of the people to try and barge in. If America wanted them, open borders nitwits like you would win an election occasionally.

        1. White voters post-civil-war, in the American south, voted into place “Jim Crow” laws to keep black people from voting, and also voted into place, MANDATES that privately owned white businesses could NOT treat blacks as equals. Did the majority vote here turn wrong into right?

          Wrong is still wrong, even when blessed by the voters!

          1. White voters post-civil-war, in the American south, voted into place “Jim Crow” laws to keep black people from voting, and also voted into place, MANDATES that privately owned white businesses could NOT treat blacks as equals. Did the majority vote here turn wrong into right?

            Democrat voters did.

            Republican voters never did.

            Funny, huh?

            You make a convincing argument, though, to ban Democrats from voting.

        2. “No one wants to hire these people.”

          I would like to hire them to mow my lawn, but collectivists want to have the collective hive decide for me, whether or not I should be allowed to do that.

          1. Are you willing to also pay for their use of roads, their kids’ education, et al?

            No?

            Then fuck you.

            1. I didn’t vote for socialism in the USA, but I have been forced to participate, so yes, I will help pay for roads, education, etc., for the kids. Please don’t forget, we tax the illegal sub-humans to make them pay to help prop up Social Security, but they never get to benefit from the taxes that they pay! (In the particular case of SS). See “The Truth About Undocumented Immigrants and Taxes” (in quotes) in your Google search window will take you straight there, hit number one… AKA http://www.theatlantic.com/bus…..es/499604/

              This is a part of a long pattern of Government Almighty fuck-ups making necessary, MORE Government Almighty fuck-ups! Government Almighty mandated WAY too many licenses, before we’re allowed to earn an honest living… Put too many of us into poverty. To “help” with this poverty problem that Government Almighty created, Government Almighty gave us welfare. Welfare then attracts too many illegal sub-humans, sometimes, so to fix THAT problem, Government Almighty now wants e-verify and giant border walls and giant border armies, so I suppose Government Almighty will next fire up the military draft to fix THAT problem! (Lack of a large enough wall-and-army forces).

              Those of us who like individual freedom, would like for Government Almighty to SHRINK, for once, instead of always making itself BIGGER to fix all of the problems created by Government Almighty in the first place!

              1. I didn’t vote for socialism in the USA, but I have been forced to participate, so yes, I will help pay for roads, education, etc., for the kids. Please don’t forget, we tax the illegal sub-humans to make them pay to help prop up Social Security, but they never get to benefit from the taxes that they pay!

                Explains the under-the-table payments.

                And I am not the ones who view them as subhuman. You, on the other hand. view them as useful slaves for you. Shameful, but not unexpected.

                You want smaller government and demand we bring in more people who oppose you to achieve it. Is your next trick going to be to try and improve your health by shooting yourself in the head?

                1. Slaves aren’t paid… I would pay them. I’m not in favor of a totally open border; just one that is far less used by a racist-nationalist POTUS as boogey-man to scare us all into voting for him and his racist, xenophobic policies. Even FDR’s concentration camps for Japanese-Americans didn’t engage in baby-snatching.

                  1. “Slaves aren’t paid.”

                    Well that’s stupidly wrong.

                    1. Slaves are paid a can food of dog food a day, maybe; are you OK with slavery then?

                      In NAZI slave labor camps, AND Stalin’s slave labor camps, they often weren’t “paid” enough food to keep them alive! That OK with you too?

                      Your ego is holding you as a slave… How much is your ego paying you, and is it worth it to you?

                      Suggestion: FREE yourself from your monstrous ego!

                    2. “Slaves are paid”

                      Glad you can admit you were lying.

                    3. Defending slavery today? Is torture OK as well? How about genocide?

                    4. More like defending true things from liars like you. You lied. And then you got butthurt and went full retard.

                    5. It is his move. He lies, then spins out of control and crashes into a rhetorical ditch. You pointed out that lied, so he has to find a way to dehumanize and insult you because his ego can’t tolerate being caught lying.

                  2. Slaves aren’t paid… I would pay them.

                    Sure they’d have zero legal recourse if you did not. It’s totally different.

                    Even FDR’s concentration camps for Japanese-Americans didn’t engage in baby-snatching.

                    You’re aware that they took babies into those camps too, right?

                    1. Yes, but they didn’t forcibly snatch babies away from mommas, separate them by hundreds of miles, and then lose track of which babies belonged to whom.

                      “Sure they’d have zero legal recourse if you did not. It’s totally different.”

                      Yes, and this is totally due to xenophobic Trumpista policies, which I do not support. I try to be ethical, even when the law doesn’t force me to be such, by the way.

                    2. Yes, but they didn’t forcibly snatch babies away from mommas, separate them by hundreds of miles, and then lose track of which babies belonged to whom.

                      You’d be OK with putting kids in prison with their parents?

                      OK. I’m good with that.

                      Yes, and this is totally due to xenophobic Trumpista policies, which I do not support. I try to be ethical, even when the law doesn’t force me to be such, by the way.

                      Explains the desire to make others pay for your nobility. Ethics.

            2. Why not? We pay for YOUR useless ass.

              1. Projection is always an ugly thing to see. Paloma, I’m sure SOMEBODY cares about you.

          2. “I would like to hire them to mow my lawn, but collectivists want to have the collective hive decide for me, whether or not I should be allowed to do that.”

            Then propose to sponsor someone.
            That means taking full financial and legal responsibility for them.
            You provide for their welfare, and you accept penalty for any transgressions of the law if they do so.

            But you don’t want to accept personal responsibility for your choices, do you?
            You want to collectively impose your emotional ideal.

            1. Indeed. He wants to virtue signal on others’ dime.

            2. The current system that we have makes me contribute to socialism and welfare for USA citizens at (don’t know the numbers) maybe $100 for every $1 that is sent to foreigners for foreign aid. This is collectivism forced on me, and I have no choice.

              My personal religious / ideological / philosophical beliefs are that all humans are nominally equal in their rights to freedom… Not equal results, but equal freedom. Free trade (in labor as well as goods and services) are the best routes to go. But if we are to have FORCED welfare, then I can’t see why American poor are paid $100 (or whatever) for every $1 that is forced from me for foreigners! That is collectivism forced on me that I disagree with! I am not aware of God or karma or evolution or the Universe or ANY moral authority telling me that this ratio is correct!

              And for challenging this collectivism, I am a collectivist? Please explain!

              1. Why would explaining anything to you help? You’re an incoherent retard who constantly reminds people you can’t post anything without making a fool of yourself.

                1. Says the most empty-headed poster who I have ever run into!

                  1. See? I was right.

                  2. “Says the most empty-headed poster who I have ever run into!”

                    This coming from a guy whose posts sound like they come from a downie on an acid trip.

        3. And yet somehow, even with all the legal hurdles, people DO hire them all the time and you bitch about THAT.

    2. So Central Americans would have been better off if America had just stayed out of it and let Castro establish Communist governments in those countries?

      It certainly is a… novel… libertarian stance that the Communists were the innocent victims in all this.

      1. That’s not the point. You might still be trapped in the tiny cubby of history purveyed by the Amerikan Pulbic Skool Seistem Dat Teeched Kudz to Red an Writ, but the US government had intervened in countries such as Honduras and Nicaragua for years, either providing support for certain fruity US companies (from whence the term: banana republic) which is something people don’t easily forget. The fact that Cuba “seemed” to free itself from the influence of a more powerful and interventionist country that seemed to support strongmen over the wishes of ordinary people made Communist an attractive (if illusory) alternative. In essence, it was American foreign policy that TAINTED the idea of a land of freedom and opportunity for many decades. That’s not the fault of the American people but of government officials with a penchant for playing RISK with real people.

        1. Right, since before US adventurism, the nations and cultures of Latin America were stable, happy places with liberty and justice for all. Or was that the Mayans?

          1. He just a racist who hates white people, he doesn’t have to make sense.

            1. Re: Tulpa,

              He just a racist who hates white people, he doesn’t have to make sense

              Not white people, Tulpa. You’re being too creative with your assertions.

              No, only Trumpistas. It’s not racist to hate Trumpistas, unless you want to invoke the Ein Volk mantra….

              1. Oooh now he’s backpedaling!!!

                “”which is something the white Nationalists/Nativists want to stop by imposing themselves, through violent means, between American citizens and ”

                Your words you sad old fucking racist.

          2. Re: Jerryskids,

            Right, since before US adventurism, the nations and cultures of Latin America were stable, happy places with liberty and justice for all.

            You have this distorted view of those countries, most likely because you get your geography from watching The Three Amigos.

        2. Just so we’re clear; you’re suggesting that these C. American companies might have been better served if they established some manner of line, or border, and kept foreigners out? That America’s free market economy wasn’t an intrinsic boon to these native peoples?

          It seems pretty distinctly like you hate borders and empathize with Soviets, I just want to be sure that that’s the position you intend to take. Publicly.

          1. Re: mad.casual,

            Just so we’re clear; you’re suggesting that these C. American companies might have been better served if they established some manner of line, or border, and kept foreigners out?

            No, and I don’t even see who can anyone construe the above from what I argued, other than through prevarication or madness.

            That America’s free market economy wasn’t an intrinsic boon to these native peoples?

            Again, what are you talking about?

            I’ll make the point again: US foreign policy tainted the American ideal for many in Central America for many years, which explains why they were more susceptible to left-wing and anti-imperialist propaganda, even if misguided, as a counterbalance to a clear propping up and support by the US government in favor of dictatorial and violent regimes. A more laissez-faire foreign policy with a preference for promoting the values of free markets would have made a lot of difference for good, but you have to realize that America foreign policy was managed by people openly HOSTILE to free markets and laissez-faire. The results can be clearly seen today. The above plus the murderous and ill-advised war on drugs just makes things worse for the citizens of those Central American countries.

            1. No, and I don’t even see who can anyone construe the above from what I argued, other than through prevarication or madness.

              All puffy and self-inflated like that, I’m surprised you can see anything. Here, I’ll make it easy;

              America foreign policy was managed by people openly HOSTILE to free markets and laissez-faire

              So, the C. Americans at the time should’ve been more open to free trade or less open to free trade with the Americans?

            2. Any former colony of Spain is a shithole. It is pretty consistent. It not the “White man’s” fault that former Spanish colonies are, fairly universally, unstable shitholes.

              1. Any southern state is a shithole as well.

                And have you ever seen Fargo? North and South Dakotas total shitholes.

                At least the former Spanish colonies have good food and music.

                1. Any southern state is a shithole as well.

                  Explains why we’re growing while places like NY are dying on the vine.

                  And have you ever seen Fargo? North and South Dakotas total shitholes.

                  While I should bow to your expertise in shitholes — I mean, look at your posting — you come across like a moron.

                  At least the former Spanish colonies have good food and music.

                  Where every song sounds the exact same and every dish is the same inedible concoction of beans and dirt? Where drinking water is a massive crapshoot in survival? Tell me more, son.

          2. Hahahhaaha

            Another great example of why anyone concerned with “immigrants” making the US worse, but not with native-born Americans making the US worse, is a liar.

            1. And another great example of you crying.

              1. Another great example of Tulpa saying NOTHING other than insulting people, because he doesn’t know how to express coherent, detailed thoughts.

        3. Government officials with a penchant for playing risk with real people goes back to the consummate Progressive, Woodrow Wilson.

          How the hell do people still call themselves progressives with no sense of shame?

    3. >>So Central Americans would have been better off if America had just stayed out of it and let Castro establish Communist governments in those countries?

      I bet Socialism would have worked that time.

  9. How the fuck do you write this article and not talk about the drug war? This is a new low even for Dalmia.

    1. Re: Idle Hands,

      How the fuck do you write this article and not talk about the drug war?

      Would that make the Trumpista case against scary brown-skinned immigrants any better, Idle?

        1. Would talking about the Drug War make the Trumpista case against immigration better, or less convincing? TO put it more succinctly: What’s your point?

          1. What’s your point?

            That the people migrating largely don’t remember the Soviets. We don’t need more people clinging with a death grip to a culture they don’t even know. We’ve already got enough of those.

            1. They don’t need to. They have Zelaya. They have Ortega. They have Raul Castro and Nicolas Maduro.

              Marxism has not gone away in Latin America.

      1. It absolutely would not. Communists have used the Drug War to their advantage. FARC were a gang of kidnapping, extorting, murdering commies who were financed by drugs, mainly cocaine.

        Even supporting, aiding, or even installing a right wing regime doesn’t root out the drug gangs.

  10. More evidence that Shikha hates America.

    America is the bad guys blah blah blah.

    Latin countries tend to be corrupt. Italy is corrupt too, so what does that tell you.

    If you don’t equally enforce laws on everyone and have a strong property rights in place, you end up with shitholes.

    1. Re: lovecons.. oh, for fuck’s sake, who are you kidding?

      More evidence that Shikha hates America.

      An attack to our lousy and interventionist foreign policy is an attack on all of us! Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!

      1. An attack to our lousy and interventionist foreign policy is an attack on all of us! Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!

        OM-Whatever, can you add an addendum or byline to your manifesto so that when the FBI picks you up for mailing fake explosives around we’ll know it was you and make sure all the bets get settled correctly?

        1. Re: mad.casual,

          You’re really unhinging yourself, eh mad?

          1. You’re really unhinging yourself, eh mad?

            You’re the one shouting ‘Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!’ on behalf of the other people in your head.

    2. MAGA!

  11. Wealth and prosperity are the exceptions in our world, not the rules.

    1. That’s a lie. Actually, Capitalism has PROVEN that that’s a lie.

      1. I knew you liked living in fantasy land, but I hadn’t realized it was that fantastical!

        Whole continents exist without wealth and prosperity. Over 75% of the world’s population can’t hold a candle to the other 25%’s quality of life.

        1. EVERY country improves its wealth and prosperity when it dumps socialism and embraces free markets. And that includes “whole continents”.

          Chile became a prosperous country, and while Venezuela was once the most prosperous country in Latin America, it declined rapidly under Bolivarian socialism to the most miserable on earth.

  12. I seem to recall this shtick from some comedy show….
    Oh, yeah! “The devil made him do it”.
    It was amusing bullshit then. No longer amusing, still bullshit.

  13. History did not start in 2016 and it did not start in 1916 either – Spain fucked up South and Central America. It’s not a coincidence that the US and Canada are relatively free and prosperous adherents to the rule of law and that our legal and political systems are derived from English Common Law dating back to the Magna Carta while the Spanish-conquered territories in the New World are still based on a feudal system involving monarchy and nobility.

    1. As I posted above, living in the Mayan empire was not very joyful.

      1. Or the Aztec one either.

        They enslaved surrounding tribes and practiced bloody human sacrifices.

    2. +1

    3. Bingo Jerry. The biggest difference between the US and Canada and most of Latin America and Central America is that the US revolution ended quickly and did not devolve into partisan warfare and the Latin American wars of independence against Spain did. This did untold damage to those societies that has led to nearly all of the problems they have today.

    4. In 1920, Argentina was in much better shape financially and culturally than the US or Canada. That changed with Peron.

      It can be done.

  14. I get it! The caravan is so our fault. We need to send them tampons and absentee ballots now!

  15. Invade (or Break) the world. Invite the world.

  16. The U.S. has a bad foreign policy – as it does with terrorism and foreign wars.
    But I would not use this as a moral rationale for what immigrants and terrorists actually do.
    Why do I get the feeling that Reason is trying to do this

    1. Re: hpearce,

      But I would not use this as a moral rationale for what immigrants and terrorists actually do.

      And what do immigrants do, H?

      1. Well, you specifcally go around proving you’re a racist.

        1. And Tulpa goes around proving that He is in thrall to His Ego.

          1. And you go around proving that you can’t stand how many times I’ve pointed out that you’re an idiot. It has reached the point where you are clearly having a breakdown because if how much I own you.

            1. Tulpa is reverting to the original Tulpa.

              1. Poor abused Tulpa isn’t around to defend Himself. Perhaps He is off running from street corner to street corner, rallying the troops. “One if by land, two if by sea! The rational discourse is coming! It MUST be fended off by inane, low-brow, insulting comments! Man yer battle stations!”

                I feel compelled to defend Tulpa in His Absence… So therefor I will rub together 4 to 7 neurons or so, for 2 seconds, and then, here it comes, an incoming Message from the Big Head (AKA a Tulpa response, on Tulpa’s behalf):

                “Well, you are a stinky pants!”

  17. Gynocentric left wing garbage. It is obviously the evil white man who is harming the poor “women and children”. Except photo’s show it is 90% men, and they are looking for higher paying jobs (not asylum). Perhaps they should work on fixing things at home instead of walking away?

    1. Perhaps young men are the ones who have stamina to walk hundreds of miles?

      Perhaps you have zero idea how someone could “work to fix things at home”. As if YOU could.

  18. The RNC should send this article to all their field offices–to drive more support and donations ahead of the midterms.

    If Dalmia stayed up all night trying to write a better article to drive support for Trump ahead of the midterms, she could hardly have come up with anything better.

    P.S. “Trump is doing everything in his power to pull up the barricades against the advancing migrant caravan from Honduras, including threatening to call up the military.”

    God forbid the military is used to defend our borders–is that what I’m supposed to think?

    My libertarian ass needs some convincing to defend other countries’ borders, but using the military to defend our own borders makes perfect sense to me.

    1. These people are retarded. They can’t even concieve that they have to win people over to their arguments anymore. They really think calling everyone a racist and a facist will convince them.

      1. Tulpa is pretty good at calling everyone a racist. Just see his posts right here!

        He has convinced me, yes! What has he convinced me of? That he’s just an empty-headed potty mouth who enjoys shitting all over the conversations!

        Too many Tulpas in this world if you ask me… And they come in ALL flavors of ideological idiocy!

        1. “Tulpa is pretty good at calling everyone a racist.”

          And you’re so fucking stupid that you think Old Racist Mex = everyone.

          That’s the best part of this. I have you so upset that you have no problem openly lying.

        2. WAY too many Tulpas even here pretending to be libertarian. At least the original Tulpa had no such pretensions.

  19. Shecky is obviously correct here, and the Beaner too. It’s all our fault that everything south of the Rio Grande is a shit hole of greater or lesser degrees. The obvious solution here is to build a wall to prevent any more wicked Americans migrating south to fuck things up further, and to immediately cease any and all financial and material aid to these countries and end any American government influence. Beaner The Racist will agree, as soon as he anchors in his long list of second cousins.

    1. To the extent that the US is to blame for anything down there, it is because of the drug war. And hey, I am all for ending the drug war. Somehow, the fact that the US has a drug war that I never supported means I must as a taxpayer assume responsibility for every person down there who wants to come here. Ah fuck off on that.

      1. “…it is because of the drug war.”

        Yes, John, a hearty AMEN to that! The thugs that terrorize those nations learned their thuggery skills, often, in USA jails… And they were in USA jails in the first place, for drug smuggling!

        Again, AMEN to you, bro, on this one at least!

  20. Shorter Dalmia: “Orange man bad.”

    1. I can’t wait to see her reaction to Brazilian orange man.

      1. Oh yes, Dear Jesus please save us all!!! I have only seen the barest hints, so far, of the latest of the “Boys from Brazil”, and it does not, in My Humble Mind, restore much of my faith in the humanity of the humanoids…

        WTF, God or Spirit of Benevolence,or karma, or The Universe, or the State of “Clear” from Scientology, or Spaghetti Monster-Malicious-Mucus Dude, WHOEVER THE HELL YOU ARE, whut have ye done for us LATELY?!?! Can ye please tell us, IN PLAIN ENGLISH, what to do to save us from your saviors? Such as Donald Trump especially? AND also his Brazilian underpants?

  21. Trump is doing everything in his power

    It’s called enforcing immigration law. These people have stated their intention to violate our sovereignty and laws. They should be stopped.

  22. Most retail stores I’m familiar with, especially smaller/independent shops rather than chain stores, have a simple policy: “You break it, you buy it.”

    If we are to take Shikha at her word, and accept that it is the U.S. that broke these various Central American countries, then the U.S. should now own these same countries, much as they own Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and American Samoa.

    Like those Pacific islands, these countries are blessed with balmy tropical breezes, abundant biodiversity resources, some might have oil and gas (Mexico, just a short distance north, certainly has plenty), and attractive native girls in grass skirts. (Well, maybe not the grass skirts part.)

    Is Shika okay with the government now claiming all these territories? It’s only fair, if her assertion is correct. I can remember at least one broken ceramic doodad that my mom had to pay for (not sure what she did with it) after I (aged 8 or 9 at the time) accidentally elbowed it in a store and it hit the floor and smashed into several pieces. Seems appropriate that Congress should fork over a reasonable price for these nations (say 2 or 3x their most recent yearly GDP) and then own them outright.

    I have a feeling she would not be on board with this and would quickly come up with an alternate culprit for their brokenness, such as corrupt local governments and the drug war. But I don’t want to assume to know what’s in her head.

    1. I would also have to blame the old Communist bloc for their situation. Yes, Woodrow Wilson started it with a military occupation a century ago. Marxists took advantage of it to demonize the United States.

      Latin America seems like the only place now, outside of North Korea, where Marxism is fashionable. Well, and universities.

  23. I seem to remember a time when the position was Open Borders OR Welfare State not Open Borders AND Welfare State……

  24. Well, another example of Shikha Dalmia’s consistent anti-anti-Marxism. Sure, she’ll grant that Marxism is a bad idea, but the real villains are those who stand up to it, whether in India or in Central America.

  25. Summary: Brown people don’t have agency.

    1. Brown people must NOT be allowed to mow my yard without a PhD degree in Mow-Yard-ology, as is issued by Tulpa’s Government-Almighty-Blessed sinecure! All Hail Master Tulpa!

  26. When did Reason turn into Pravda?

  27. BBC radio had interviews with members of the caravan after they had been offered asylum by the Mexican government. Their general response was that they still wanted to come to the U.S. because wages were higher here. Seems like they aren’t just fleeing from crime and bad government then.

  28. And we intervened to stop the Communists in Korea too… And saved half the country, which has turned into one of the most amazing nations on the face of this earth. How many decades do they get to use us HELPING THEM not being taken over by brutal communists dictatorships as an excuse? For forever, just like blacks will get a pass for the next 5,000 years because of slavery? At SOME POINT people need to take responsibility for their own shit. It doesn’t take this long for a country to get its shit together, so don’t go blaming it on us anymore.

    I’m not big on intervention, especially not in the current geopolitical climate… But when the USSR, China, etc were pushing international communism globally, we almost didn’t have a choice but to do it.

  29. Well, I won’t be subscribing to ‘The Week’ magazine, we need to get all media advertising costs reduced, so liberal opiners can’t make a living spewing their ‘America’s to Blame’ rubbish.

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