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Cellphones

Nationwide 'Presidential Alert' Texts: Not the Best Idea

Most of us got a "presidential alert" text today. Is that something we really want?

Joe Setyon | 10.3.2018 3:20 PM

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Hundreds of millions of Americans received a "Presidential Alert" on their cell phone today. Specifying that "no action is needed," the message explained that the alert was "A TEST of the National Emergency Alert System."

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and Federal Communications Commission originally scheduled the test for September, but they pushed it back due to Hurricane Florence.

So what was the point? The message you likely received (unless you turned your phone off) was the first ever nationwide test of the Wireless Emergency Alert (WEA) system. It's the same system that sends out Amber Alerts (for missing children) and weather warnings. While those can be turned off, the 2006 Warning, Alert and Response Network Act stipulates that the "Presidential Alert" cannot.

FEMA didn't force wireless carriers to participate, but as NBC News notes, most of them did anyway.

The test seemed to go off without a hitch. But that doesn't mean it was a good idea.

No, President Donald Trump is probably not going to use the alert to launch into crazed rants like he does on Twitter. And this isn't as new as it may seem: The technology has been around since 2012. Still, it's a bit unsettling to know that the federal government can reach you whenever it wants—and perfectly reasonable to wonder whether in 30 years we'll be getting texts from the government about more than just national emergencies.

It's also worth noting that such emergency alert systems are not infallible. In January, the Hawaiian islands were thrown into a state of panic when a worker accidentally sent out a statewide ballistic missile warning.

Finally, FEMA doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to, well, anything. Maybe, just maybe, putting the oft-maligned federal agency in charge of a nationwide emergency alert system isn't the best idea.

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Joe Setyon is currently an associate story editor for The Western Journal, a publication based in Arizona. He is a former assistant editor at Reason.

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  1. Rich   7 years ago

    No, President Donald Trump is probably not going to use the alert to launch into crazed rants like he does on Twitter.

    Oh, REALLY?!

    1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

      Trump should use this to send a dick pic to every American on his last day of office.

      1. Agammamon   7 years ago

        Last day? Every day!

  2. DenverJ   7 years ago

    Yawn. Also, first!

    1. DenverJ   7 years ago

      Damnit Rich

      1. Rich   7 years ago

        That's because *I* was alerted by WEA.

        *** polishes nails on shirt ***

        1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

          Great, Rich. Now I am picturing you walking away like Peggy Bundy.

  3. Weigel's Cock Ring   7 years ago

    Still less annoying than that shitty U2 album that Apple thought everyone would love to have included on their new phone for some weird reason.

    1. albo   7 years ago

      C'mon. Apple fanboys deserve such aggravation. So do Prius owners, who should have their radio tuned to U2 at the factory.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        They probably already have that on Prius'. They have a feature that won't allow you to park in front of a big box store.

        Do you even artisenal, brah?

        1. albo   7 years ago

          I use only organic, locally sourced gasoline.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            For your car's sake, I hope that's non-GMO gasoline

          2. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

            Technically all gasoline is organic.

            Organic=carbon chemistry.

            Gasoline is a hydrocarbon. Hmm.

            1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

              So you're the type of guy that people don't invite to parties, I take it

              1. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

                And they don't come to my parties either, I can't figure it out.

              2. BYODB   7 years ago

                Isn't this a Douglas Adams joke?

          3. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

            Fossil fuel use is aggression.

  4. Just Say'n   7 years ago

    Man, why did Trump set up this system? Probably because he's a Nazi or something, right?

    1. albo   7 years ago

      Obama signed it into law. So not a Nazi, a Commie.

      1. Mike Laursen   7 years ago

        Actually, I think it might have been George W. Bush who signed it into law way back in 2007.

    2. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      "Former President Barack Obama signed a law in 2016 requiring FEMA to create a system allowing the president to send cellphone alerts regarding public safety emergencies."

      http://www.nypost.com/2018/09/15/trum.....next-week/

      1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

        Yup. I turned off my Amber alert setting, so I didnt receive presidential alert message either.

        1. Juice   7 years ago

          Are you sure? My S8 says that I can't turn them off.

          https://i.imgur.com/QlKGPzsg.jpg

          1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

            I have iphone not galaxy.

        2. Agammamon   7 years ago

          You didn't receive it because your carrier didn't participate. You can't turn off the Presidential level alerts, only the other ones.

          1. Agammamon   7 years ago

            Also because you are using a Jitterbug.

          2. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

            Verizon participated.

            My igoring all updates since I got the phone does wonders for battery level stability, etc.

      2. Mike Laursen   7 years ago

        Wow, the New York Post really spent a lot of time fact checking before they went to press.

        Not.

    3. Mike Laursen   7 years ago

      Already have had two Progressive friends post to facebook about how Trump is behind these alerts.

      As far as I can tell, Trump has had zero involvement in the whole thing.

  5. Sevo   7 years ago

    "Still, it's a bit unsettling to know that the federal government can reach you whenever it wants?"

    Nope; only when the phone is on.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   7 years ago

      And when the feds make auto-on mandatory?

      1. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

        Take the battery out. 🙂

        1. Rich   7 years ago

          And when the feds make permabattery mandatory?

          1. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

            Faraday cadge.

            1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

              And when the feds make Farady cages illegal?

              1. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

                Keep your phone in a lead box.

                1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

                  Alright, you win.

                2. Agammamon   7 years ago

                  We'll just make it illegal for your phone to lose contact with a cellphone tower.

                3. Agammamon   7 years ago

                  We'll just make it illegal for your phone to lose contact with a cellphone tower.

            2. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

              Wait, Faraday was a falconer?

        2. Agammamon   7 years ago

          How many phone can you do that on anymore?

      2. Sevo   7 years ago

        Unicorn Abattoir|10.3.18 @ 3:36PM|#
        "And when the feds make auto-on mandatory?
        What phone? I have a land line if it comes to that.

        1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

          Sat phones need not apply.

    2. mad.casual   7 years ago

      Nope; only when the phone is on.

      On, present, and within reception range. The President can feel free to text me all he likes when my phone is sitting off at home. Just like everyone else.

      1. Sevo   7 years ago

        "On, present, and within reception range. The President can feel free to text me all he likes when my phone is sitting off at home. Just like everyone else."
        And you are free to ignore it.

  6. Dillinger   7 years ago

    phished by the feds.

  7. NoVaNick   7 years ago

    I have been getting local EAS alerts for a while mostly for missing kids and old people, and flooding after every heavy rainstorm. Like the Boy Who Cried Wolf, the more we get, the more they will be ignored

  8. Placeholder Name   7 years ago

    Yeah, this doesn't bother me. Given that, upon occasion, shit does happen, its not a bad idea to have a way to communicate instantly with the masses. If Trump starts broadcasting dick pics, however, we should reconsider.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   7 years ago

      Then the masses should be able to opt in/out and take their chances.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   7 years ago

        That would require the consideration of liberty.

      2. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

        I wholly agree. Folks should be able to opt out of public warnings...with the caveat that they then ALSO opt out of putting the life of a first responder at risk when they (inevitably) call for help. Go for it! I'm all for Darwinian population reduction...

        1. Agammamon   7 years ago

          Christ man. Do you pay attention to these warnings?

          I don't know where you live but when I had them on I got warnings for missing kids or weather events in places *200 miles away* every few days. They're shite. And, frankly, unless you live in tornado alley then you're not getting a public emergency that doesn't give you multiple days of warning.

          Hell, here we get flash flooding - and we still knew a week in advance that we were going to get the rain that triggers it.

        2. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

          ^ no Libertarian here.

          You must follow all nanny state rules or your tax dollars applied to public safety will not allow your rescue.

          1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

            IQPointsmatter, that is.

    2. albo   7 years ago

      Combine them and issue an Amber Alert for Hurricane Dick Pic

      1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

        You know who else had an Amber Alert set up?

        1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

          Ugh, that was a slow pitch, y'all. The correct answer is Johnny Depp.

          1. Dillinger   7 years ago

            Jesse Eisenberg.

    3. Dillinger   7 years ago

      operation yeti mushroom.

    4. Square = Circle   7 years ago

      its not a bad idea to have a way to communicate instantly with the masses

      On a national scale? Why?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

        I'm assuming that this was just the test, that ultimately it can be tailored to specific regions without having states or localities doing it in 50 different ways. But I could be wrong, maybe all messages will always go out nationally. Like I care if there's a category 5 twitstorm heading for the northeast.

      2. Red Tony   7 years ago

        Attention assholes, we're being nuked. Y'all's fucked.

  9. albo   7 years ago

    This is a very cranky article that seems to accomplish little except bash the incompetents at FEMA yet again.

    1. mad.casual   7 years ago

      Look, they failed to deliver water to every single Puerto Rican for *over a year* and the Puerto Rican government and all of its people were powerless to stop them.

      1. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

        Thank you, mad.casual! Apparently folks don't understand that FEMA does NOT go in and "take over" command and control of a disaster. The EM adage is that "disasters begin and end at the local level."
        Local governments request aid through mutual aid agreements to other local governments, then they elevate to the state (or territory, in this case) if they can't access what they need. If the state/territory is overwhelmed, the state then requests aid from FEMA and other federal agencies. FEMA organizes the aid from multiple federal agencies and pushes it to the state. That's their ONLY job during response: to organize/coordinate federal aid based on state requests. Then it's on the state/territory to get it to local levels where it's distributed.
        99.9% of complaints you see in the media that FEMA screwed up are really that states/local governments/NGOs screwed up, but I know it's easier to just be paranoid and blame the Federal government. Lazy/group thinking >leads to> broad generalizations >that lead to> people feeling validated by praise from other ignorant (yet strongly-opinionated) people when they play arm-chair quarterback.
        Rather than just sitting around bitching about things you know nothing about, how about you folks get out there and DO something, like volunteering for your local Community Emergency Response Team? Then let FEMA know if you have any better ideas on how to get the job done.

        1. NotAnotherSkippy   7 years ago

          But that implies that you can have self-organizing local systems. What do you think joey is, a libertarian?

          1. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

            Yes, you are 100% right. Local organization was lacking and corruption was rampant in PR after Maria. You've made my point. Not FEMA's fault. Or were they SUPPOSED to go in and take over? No?

            Again, people, get off your backsides and go get involved in your community to have a voice that matters, not just in an inane comments section. Or continue the hypocrisy of bitching about a problem you don't ACTUALLY care enough about to invest any of your own time in to fix. Your choice.

        2. Agammamon   7 years ago

          FEMA does NOT go in and "take over" command and control of a disaster.

          Except when they do.

          1. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

            Specific example from the last 10 years, please. Don't bring Katrina into this because the Post-Katrina Emergency Management Reform Act of 2006 redefined FEMA's roles and responsibilities (as well as the Sandy recovery Act of 2013, but less so on the Response side of the house). Just like any other decent organization, lessons learned are integrated into new ways of doing business. Is the system perfect? No. But I ask you, is ANY system perfect?

            The biggest question to ask is: are they happy clinging to doing things "the way they've always been done" or do they evolve when they run into systemic problems? The answer is the latter, and I'm not sure how any reasonable person can expect more than that...unless they just want to play the blame game and not use reason at all.

  10. Microaggressor   7 years ago

    I just figured the Donald pressed a shiny red button and moved on with my life.

    1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      I'm just glad he didn't text "Send nudes"

      1. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

        Or "Send Nukes"...

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          That would be worse

        2. mad.casual   7 years ago

          Or "Send Nuvfefe"...

  11. Eddy   7 years ago

    "FEMA didn't force wireless carriers to participate, but as NBC News notes, most of them did anyway."

    But it would be, as the expression goes, *very unfortunate* if they didn't give their voluntary cooperation.

    When I get a Presidential alert, it better be a nuclear war or a bacterial bomb set off by terrorists, and not a reminder to pay my taxes or stay on the lookout for some kid in the middle of a custody dispute.

    1. Eddy   7 years ago

      Or maybe a reminder to pay my taxes before the radiations finishes me off.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        You need to sign yourself up for "papal texts". They're all in Latin so you won't get upset, because you can't read them.

        1. Eddy   7 years ago

          I'll just put them through Google Translate.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            You're a real glutton for punishment

          2. Eddy   7 years ago

            "Francis sings, 'Tractors, Turnip, Buttocks!'"

            1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

              Don't you mean "FFFFrancis", you boof?

    2. Square = Circle   7 years ago

      One of my favorite lines from basically every police procedural:

      "Trust us, you want, to cooperate voluntarily!"

    3. Agammamon   7 years ago

      Dude, it will be an alert for a bacterial bomb set off in a city on the other side of the country from you.

      And you'd have seen it reported on cable news an hour before they got around to sending out the alert.

  12. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

    Its for national emergencies.

    Anyway, turn off your cell phone Amber Alert nonsense alert and you wont get a presidential alert.

    1. Shirley Knott   7 years ago

      Not universally true. I've had Amber alerts off from the start with this phone, but I got the damn thing any.
      At a guess it varies by state and/or service provider.

    2. jcw   7 years ago

      Reading is tough.

    3. Brandybuck   7 years ago

      Nope. I have the amber alert stuff off, but I got this Presidential Alert message. Which just goes to show that Trump ranks higher than kidnapped children.

      1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

        iPhone. Amber alert off. No presidential alert.

        Anecdotes all around.

        Suck it!

        1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

          I looked again and iphone also allows you to turn off government emergency alerts, which I turned off when I got the cell.

          Check your phones losers!

          1. Brandybuck   7 years ago

            Well, some warning about an imminent tornado sounds useful. I just wasn't expecting a rollout of the Trump Tweet Network.

            1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

              They have weather apps from NOAA or weather channel or whatever.

              I dont watch the news so I certainly dont want the government sending bullshit they think is important to my cell phone.

              If the internet goes out, I will be fairly sure that the World is coming to an end. Or Randy Marsh has overlogged it.

            2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

              It was the Obama Tweet Network for which Trump now has the password.

              1. Earth Skeptic   7 years ago

                I figure that is "1234" or "password"

            3. buybuydandavis   7 years ago

              " I just wasn't expecting a rollout of the Trump Tweet Network."

              But I was hoping!

        2. Agammamon   7 years ago

          "Unlike emergency alerts and Amber alerts, these presidential alerts cannot be turned off, according to FEMA."

          https://tinyurl.com/ybvolwpb

          Not anecdote, sourced.

          "Unfortunately, they can't?officially. Though you can turn off Amber and other emergency alerts in iOS and Android, those settings won't affect your ability to receive this test."

          Wired

          1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

            I never got the alert. I have amber alerts and gov emergency alerts turned off.

            So false FEMA propaganda. Big surprise.

    4. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

      Did you read the article? Did you miss this?

      It's the same system that sends out Amber Alerts (for missing children) and weather warnings. While those can be turned off, the 2006 Warning, Alert and Response Network Act stipulates that the "Presidential Alert" cannot.

      1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

        I never received the presdential message today.

        I have 'Amber Alerts' turned off.
        I have 'Emergency Messages' turned off.
        I dont update my cell phone software.

        That tells me that this supposed mandatory alert was anything but.

        The propaganda people were wrong again...if you can believe that.

    5. Agammamon   7 years ago

      There are multiple types of alerts.

      Alerts issued by the President of the United States

      Alerts involving imminent threats to safety of life, issued in two different categories: extreme threats and severe threats

      Severe weather

      AMBER Alerts

      You have to disable each one individually.

      1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

        Nope.

        I never received the alert.

        As I said multiple times, turned off amber alerts and gov emergency message settings on iPhone and dont update phone.

  13. Ecoli   7 years ago

    ANNOYING!

    I don't need, and don't want a presidential alert on my cell phone. What can the president possibly tell me that I won't get from a dozen other sources?

    Very sad.

  14. SIV   7 years ago

    When I saw "Presidential Alert" I was hoping Trump had ordered a drone strike on the NYTs

    1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

      When SIV registers an amber alert, it's because he saw one of his hens flash some leg.

  15. Moridin   7 years ago

    I have an old "basic" phone and I did not get a text! Ha! Take that fedgov.

    1. albo   7 years ago

      Remind me not to go on your lawn

    2. albo   7 years ago

      Remind me not to go on your lawn

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

      This was for cell phones, not your bakelite rotary dial with the coil cord.

  16. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

    Most of us got a "presidential alert" text today. Is that something we really want?

    Obama wanted it, so we got it.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

      I like this:

      That means Trump, whose use of Twitter has revolutionized White House communications, can't use it to send personal messages.

      Remember when the Obama administration was glowingly referred to in the media as "The social networking president" and how he "got" social media? I'm guessing Trump successfully killed that meme, just like Obama killed the anti-war movement.

      1. General_Tso   7 years ago

        The networks dumped Cindy Sheehan and the daily death count like a hot potato when Obamao got in.

      2. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        You're Team Red if you point out hypocrisy. That's whataboutism or some other made-up word

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

          I just noticed in my office how many people groaned about Trump when the text message came in. I honestly don't care that much about a national alert system on the phones. Whether it'll be of any real use waits to be seen, but there's this idea that this whole thing is the brainchild of Donald Trump and therefore it must be #Resisted.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            Have your co-workers ever considered writing for Reason?

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

              I WRITE FOR REASON... IN THE COMMENTS!

            2. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

              I get a Christmas card from Reason for all the web traffic from trolls that tries to hihnfect my comments.

    2. General_Tso   7 years ago

      That information will require a rewrite of the article, I'm guessing.

    3. mad.casual   7 years ago

      I wonder if people with Obamaphones received it?

  17. AlmightyJB   7 years ago

    LOL.

    1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      🙁

    2. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

      Laugh Off Lawns?

  18. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

    They should tie it to Trump's twitter feed.

    1. buybuydandavis   7 years ago

      I was hoping for:
      "Yep. Still your President."

  19. TrickyVic (old school)   7 years ago

    It lit up my FB feed with posts from my liberal friends having a cow.

    I'll say the same thing here as I said to them.

    If only people were more bother with the idea of the feds collecting your text messages than sending you one.

  20. Brandybuck   7 years ago

    If Trump starts tweeting to my phone I'm going back to my old feature phone.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

      Having the president tweet to your phone is a human right.

      1. Brandybuck   7 years ago

        And the right to print those tweets out onto tissue to wipe my butt with is guaranteed under the Tenth Amendment!

  21. GlenchristLaw   7 years ago

    Are you forgetting how vital the Emergency Broadcast System was on 9/11?

    Oh wait, never mind...

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

      That's a good point... did people in the New York area get anything?

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   7 years ago

        Yes

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

          Well, problem solved then. Great success.

  22. Eddy   7 years ago

    "If this had been an actual emergency, the Apocalypse would already be at your doorstep and the President would be in his underground shelter."

    1. mad.casual   7 years ago

      the Apocalypse would already be at your doorstep

      That's a bit more favorable than the situations I envision getting the text.

      1. Eddy   7 years ago

        So the alert is self-defeating; the ones alerted are the zombies?

      2. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

        You have to admit, the CDC campaign "If you're ready for the zombie apocalypse, you're ready for anything" back in 2012 (during the Walking Dead craze before it sucked) was clever AF.

        https://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombie/index.htm

  23. Eddy   7 years ago

    "While everyone was peddling phony conspiracy theories, China launched its nukes. Sad. Anyway, everyone seek shelter if you have any. Me personally, I'm going to stand on top of #TrumpTower flipping off the missiles as they arrive, survivors be sure to full obedience to #MikePence who is in a secure location. #Bummer."

  24. Michael Cox   7 years ago

    Um, did anyone else pick up on the fact that it took FEMA 12 years to send out a text message?

    1. Agammamon   7 years ago

      Be fair - it was only 6 years. They instituted this level of capability in 2012.

  25. Flight-ER-Doc   7 years ago

    I think having (and testing) this capability is a good thing.

    The problem would be in too many 'Presidential Notifications', hectoring us a'la Big Brother....

  26. Crackers Boy   7 years ago

    My wife and I were in a theater, watching "A Simple Favor" (relatively recommended). Both of our phones, and probably most others, were turned to "Silent (Vibrate)". Every phone in the theater went off, including ours. Mine went off a second time because apparently I didn't acknowledge receipt correctly.

    CB

    1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

      Mine never got alert.

  27. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

    Millennial (who doesn't know know anything about anything) response: "Like, ohhhh, myyyy, gawd. Like, when I got this alert, I like thought, what? I have to hit 'ok'? What an inconvenience! I was, like suuuuper-busy scrolling through tweets from the 15,000 random, unimportant people that I follow, and I had to, like, actually be contacted by a program that could save my life someday? Whoa, brah, no can do. I'm, like, TOTALLY offended that you'd even ask. I think I'll post a selfie of me with a frownie face to my Insta account."

    Mid-30s (who doesn't know anything about Emergency Management) response: "I had to deal with this text coming in on all FIVE of my phones. I'm way too busy with my internet start-up company and half-caff-Starbucks (from their SUPER secret menu) to do any research on who will actually use this system in an emergency, but my social media all told me that it'll be Trump posting dick pics and that it's just another way for the government to sneak into my stuff. #IDontReadMyUserAgreements #IBelieveEverythingIReadOnTwitter #CheckMeOut #ItsAllAboutMe #MyOpinionCounts #ILoveHashtagsWayTooMuch"

    1. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

      And let's not forget:

      Old conspiracy theorist/nutbag (who thinks they know everything about everything) response: "You know, THEY SAY that this Presidential Alert system is going to lead to brain cancer that is orchestrated by the government as a way to control the population, especially knowing that Trump fella. Back in the day, the government couldn't just reach through your phone to control you. It's all because the government's finally figured out that alien technology they've been hiding since the 50s. I tell you, soon, VERY soon, we are all going to need to take up arms against that government in the name of Liberty."

      Ugh, STOP.

  28. Agammamon   7 years ago

    Its not that the Presidential alert is a bad idea (I mean, it is - there's nothing, literally nothing, that the President could send out that wouldn't be covered by any of the lower level alerts already) (yes, that even includes nuclear war as the systems for that were put in place decades ago) but that its the one level where there's no opt-out.

    I've opted out of every other level of alert - even weather alerts as NOAA seems to think that Yuma and Phoenix are right next to each other and a fucking dust storm warning for an area 3+ hours away has any bearing on where I'm at - but I still get to get woken up this afternoon by this stupid test.

    1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

      I never got any alert.

    2. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

      Did you know that there are a few scenarios that are considered low probably/high risk? Meaning: unlikely to happen, but if they do, they'll have devastating affects on large segments of the population (not necessarily just in one region). Think EMP or Severe Geomagnetic Disturbance-type scenarios. In those cases, seconds matter to get a message out.

      Say the Space Weather Center figures out that there's been a huge Geostorm that will arrive in 18 minutes and will knock out power to the most of the daylight side of the globe for up to a few weeks. They can either spend those minutes disseminating the info to local governments and other media (who may or may not get it out before communications are interrupted, because no system works perfectly) or straight to the public. Those systems that were in place for nuclear war decades ago? Um, they're old (and also rely on information to trickle down to local levels to activate emergency sirens and the Emergency Broadcast System). Is there something inherently wrong with updating a system to use current technology?

      1. #IQPointsMatter   7 years ago

        THAT'S what this alert system is for. The likelihood of them ever using it is extremely low (we all hope, and no, it's not a rant forum for any present/future president), but they now have another tool in their pocket, just in case. We all know what would happen if they HAD the capability to get a message out, but went through normal channels and the message didn't make it out in time...and no one knew what was happening for a couple of weeks in the dark. When the power came back on, people would be FURIOUS: "WHY didn't you tell us??? It's all your fault!!!" So, reasonable question: are they damned if they do and damned if they don't?

  29. Agammamon   7 years ago

    No, President Donald Trump is probably not going to use the alert to launch into crazed rants like he does on Twitter.

    Christ, that might actually make it worthwhile.

  30. HeteroPatriarch   7 years ago

    I didn't get anything.

  31. BlueCat57   7 years ago

    I was hoping to find an intelligent discussion of this topic on Reason, but all I find is a bunch of childish wisecracks.

    This is NOT Trump's Presidential Alert System. It was not created by Trump. I haven't watched a televised news show or picked up a print edition of a daily newspaper in decades. The Presidential Alert System is designed to inform the nation of important news from the source instead of second or third hand through social media. That's it. No Big Brother, 1984, sinister or childish intentions.

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