Kavanaugh drama takes soap-operatic turn. An influential conservative operative and friend of Judge Brett Kavanaugh's has put forth a novel theory about the sexual assault allegation that threatens to derail Kavanaugh's path to the Supreme Court. In a series of (now-deleted) Thursday night tweets, Ed Whelan suggested that everything happened just as accuser Christine Blasey Ford had said—except she had the wrong guy! In reality, suggested Whelan, it was probably a boy named Chris Garrett who assaulted Ford when she was 15.
Yep, that's right: Whelan just sacrificed some random dude who happened to be a classmate of Kavanaugh's at Georgetown Prep back in the '80s.
Neither Ford nor anyone else had named Garrett as someone who had been around on the night in question. But Garrett's family did live in the vicinity of where Ford said they were hanging out that night, and other (named) attendees allegedly did not. Apparently, that's enough for Whelan to accuse Garrett of sexual assault.
The dumbest part about Whelan's theory is that it turns on Ford having remembered precisely how many people were at the gathering that night 36 years ago but not which one of them attempted to rape her. See, Ford has said she was there with one other girl and three boys (Kavanaugh, Mark Judge, and P.J. Smyth). "If the gathering was at Garrett's house and Garrett was there, then one of the 'four others' wasn't there," Whelan tweeted.
Case closed! Because surely, someone who can't remember details like which Georgetown Prep football player accosted her could never have mistaken howmany people were hanging out and drinking there…
For her part, Ford dismissed the mistaken-identity theory as ridiculous. She says that she knew both Kavanaugh and Garrett before the night in question, that she and Garrett had traveled in the same social circles, and that she had even visited Garrett when he had been hospitalized. "There is zero chance that I would confuse them," she said in a statement.
Ford's lawyers continue to insist that she will not testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday but say she can do it later in the week, perhaps Thursday.
This morning, Whelan apologized for identifying Garrett:
I made an appalling and inexcusable mistake of judgment in posting the tweet thread in a way that identified Kavanaugh's Georgetown Prep classmate. I take full responsibility for that mistake, and I deeply apologize for it. I realize that does not undo the mistake.
After suggesting yesterday that a 15-year-old Ford should have gone to the FBI with her attempted rape allegations (the FBI does not handle such cases), Trump followed up today on Twitter by saying that if the attack had taken place, either Ford or her parents would have filed a report with local police. "I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!" Trump tweeted.
FREE MINDS
Group sues government for seizing reporter's records. A group called the First Amendment Coalition is suing the US. Department of Justice for seizing email and phone records from New York Times reporter Ali Watkins. The lawsuit was filed Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. The group alleges that "neither Ms. Watkins nor Ms. Watkins' employers appear to have been made aware of the government's use of legal process to collect these records until long after the collection had begun."
"Based on what we know now, it appears the DOJ ignored or somehow bypassed its important procedures for collecting journalists' records," said the group's executive director, David Snyder, in a statement. "We want to know if that's the case and, if so, why."
Read the First Amendment Coalition's full complaint here.
FREE MARKETS
"Talk to your grandparents about marijuana—before somebody else does,"quips Christopher Ingraham in The Washington Post. As legal marijuana markets continue to emerge, marijuana use is now as popular among older adults as it is among young adults and teenagers, according to a new national survey.
"As recently as the early 2000s, teens were more than four times more likely to use marijuana than 50- and 60-somethings," notes Ingraham.
But as of 2017, Americans ages 55 to 64 are now slightly more likely to smoke pot on a monthly basis than teens ages 12 to 17. That difference is within the survey's margin of error.
The oldest age group—seniors age 65 and older—has seen steep increases in marijuana use, as well. In the mid-2000s, monthly marijuana use among this group was effectively at zero percent. As of last year, 2.4 percent of seniors used marijuana monthly, and nearly 4 percent were using on at least an annual basis.
FOLLOW UP
Brian Wansink resigns. The high-profile Cornell nutrition researcher whose papers have been getting retracted recently has announced that he will resign at the end of the 2019 academic year. Wansink, notesArs Technica, "was world-renowned for his massively popular, commonsense-style dieting studies before ultimately going down in flames in a beefy statistics scandal."
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A new federal court ruling "means that effective immediately, anyone who produces more than $250 in ads that tell voters who to vote for in a federal campaign must identify any donor who gave them more than $200 in a single year."
Jordan B. Peterson, free speech warrior, exhibits A and B:
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"My friend Brett Kavanaugh has been wrongly accused!!! Wrongly accusing someone of a heinous act is a horrible injustice!!! Only one way to make it right - I'll wrongly accuse some other rando!!!"
The logic of the politically zealous is beyond comprehension.
Yes. If you have a Y chromosome, you must admit she was raped by every-swinging-dick-one-of-us*. And then shut the fuck up.
*Unless you are a woman with a penis who identifies as a woman, which means of course that you are a woman and therefore Must Be Believed. Because for you to lie about anything would be unpossible. Obviously.
No, I understand the reasoning: Based on her yearbook, she was probably drunk enough at the time, assuming it even happened, that she'd have been lucky to remember the gender of whoever hypothetically assaulted her. Demonstrating that there was somebody else in the school who was a dead ringer for Kavanaugh IS relevant.
Yeah, nasty thing to do to Garrett, but, the logic of the comment is valid.
I learned from Reason today that unsubstantiated allegations are wrong, unless protecting Roe v. Wade is on the line. Then you can smear someone without a shred of evidence
It seems that "free minds and free markets" now expresses a variant of libertarianism that is continuously modified to align with progressive fads and issues du jour.
Reason publishes some interesting stuff, but its alignment with most of the progressive agenda on issues that are not libertarian in its "thin" formulation alienates many genuine libertarians.
Reason is no longer a truly libertarian media organization. It is progressive-libertarian. Instead of promoting the libertarian idea, it constructs arguments from a libertarian perspective to advance the progressive agenda. In so doing, they are bound to alienate genuine libertarians who hold traditional views with respect to their own conduct.
A fine statement from the "Libertarians for Border Walls, Compulsory Transvaginal Ultrasounds, Tariffs, Statist Micromanagement Of Certain Clinics, Protectionism, Massive Military Budgets, Government Gay-Bashing, And Bigoted, Authoritarian Immigration Policies" branch of the libertarian movement.
I think it was a chupacabra that tried to slip his spiny inseminator into the sweet young Blasey. She was saved by the heroic efforts of Kavanaugh. No good deed goes unpunished.
I made an appalling and inexcusable mistake of judgment in posting the tweet thread in a way that identified Kavanaugh's Georgetown Prep classmate. I take full responsibility for that mistake, and I deeply apologize for it. I realize that does not undo the mistake.
? Ed Whelan (@EdWhelanEPPC) September 21, 2018
It also reads like a random thought, that due to the mass information of Twitter, has become a national story instead of just some shit he discussed briefly with his buddies.
In this case it was pretty calculated. He was a known friend of Kavanaugh and spent several days building up to this reveal. It's unlikely he didn't foresee the impact it would have on the third party and, in fact, he was doing to Garrett what many are credibly believing Ford is doing to Kavanaugh.
I disagree. He has his name dragged into something he probably didn't have anything to do with. The results of a Twitter mob can spill over into real life, unfortunately.
Lizard, the democrat party is a bunch of clown shoes. You have laughable people like Maxine Waters, and Keith Ellison as it's leaders. Yet you cast aspersions on republicans?
You are a silly, stupid bitch. You are a valueless thrall to those kinds of people. So not only do you support morons like the aforementioned, but you also are their pet.
"Unsubstantiated allegations are wrong" and "Kavanaugh has been credibly accused by a woman who cannot recall the time, date, or place of her assault and the only witnesses that she has identified have disputed her story"
How can someone hold both ideas in their head at the same time?
The victim is a woman. Therefore she is credible. Two facts are more than sufficient to substantiate her allegations. Number one, she's a woman. Number two, the accused is a white, heterosexual male who comes from a conservative, bourgeois family. However, if you persist in being unreasonable in your insistence that her allegations are unsubstantiated, there is another pertinent fact. The victim lived in the vicinity of her victimizer during the period in which this crime took place.
That's all it takes for millions of Americans to believe her accusations without reasonable doubt and for clear-thinking public servants in the Congress to pronounce their judgment. It's even good enough for Reason magazine to admit she's credible. It should be good enough for you, too, Just Say'n.
Treason is defined in the constitution. Google's acts, much though they may offend, do not meet the statutory requirements.
Some people are rigid about definitions and clarity of expression, but only when it suits them. I'm looking at you, Peterson. Amongst a horde of others, of course.
Not true, a lot of Canadians are the descendants of those who would rather flee the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave than not bow and scrape to a king.
there is an American trying to get out
Not really, but we live downhill of your septic tank, and know whenever it overflows with bad shit, we end up soaking in it.
In Canada the definition of "Treason" is considerably broader, but I still don't think it qualifies, though I am not certain. However what Google was up to tuns afoul of several Canadian laws, so good thing they aren't Canadian.
After suggesting yesterday that a 15-year-old Ford should have gone to the FBI with her attempted rape allegations (the FBI do not handle such cases)...
That is ignoring the forest for an out of place tree. She apparently did not register any kind of complaint with law enforcement at the alleged time this happened, and did not say anything about it to anyone for 30 years.
A new federal court ruling "means that effective immediately, anyone who produces more than $250 in ads that tell voters who to vote for in a federal campaign must identify any donor who gave them more than $200 in a single year."
Well, if it doesn't include rubles the law is meaningless and Hillary will never be president.
"The dumbest part about Whelan's theory is that it turns on Ford having remembered precisely how many people were at the gathering that night 35 years ago"
No, the dumbest thing about it is that it assumes that most of her story is credible and true except for an innocent mistake.
No, the dumbest thing about it is that it assumes that most of her story is credible and true except for an innocent mistake.
And really, Whelan may or may not be asserting that as much as everyone else believes it. The fabrication is erroneous in the extreme, explanations of or for the fabrication cannot exceed it.
I've spent the past few weeks arguing we should use every legal method available to #CancelKavanaugh. But now that Dr. Ford has credibly accused him of sexual assault, the case against him is even stronger. Anybody who opposes rape must join with Democratic Senators and #Resist this terrible nominee.
The problem is we just have one persons perspective of what happened based on her memories from 35 years ago. It's very likely if this did indeed happen she has many of the details wrong.
"even if it did happen, who cares?" is the logical conclusion to reach in regards to the Kav nomination. You can't look at the evidence and come to a different conclusion BECAUSE IT'S DAMN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE IT HAPPENED!
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THIS IS BEING USED WHEN'S IT'S BEING USED!
Why is this so hard for people to understand this?
I think it's almost entirely unlikely as well. But if for some reason they showed that he did exactly what she said, then I'd certainly be taken aback. Maybe it's just because I don't actually care about Kavanaugh, but if it turned out he was an attempted rapist beyond a doubt, I would at least give pause.
I dont remember this party, at some person's house, in this area that I'm not sure of, not sure how many drinks I had, not sure who was there, don't remember much....but
Mr. Whelan should have just said it was some other unidentified guy at some party somewhere on an unknown date in an unknown year. Everyone would have believed that, right?
His case seemed to center on the house itself, as he identified a house that appeared to be a fairly precise match to Ford's description as to layout and location. That house was owned by Garret's parents. Add in that Garret and Kavanaugh had been considered look alikes since back in high school and thats the basis for the claim. So Whelan couldn't really not identify Garret, as that is central to his premises.
In the future anarcho-capitalist society, Domino's will pave the roads and [checks notes] Golf Digest will investigate crimes. https://t.co/pEea5Pdd9f
? Rob Szarka (@szarka) September 21, 2018
And Chick-fil-A will consecrate marriages. The right ones.
So, admittedly I know nothing about Rob Szarka. But, I'm trying to figure out if that tweet was intended to be a criticism or a celebration.
Is he suggesting that we should depend on the government to investigate their own misconduct in prosecuting crimes? Is he suggesting that it's a bad thing when individuals and corporations achieve things that our overlords can't/don't/won't? Is Chick-fil-A actually somehow less qualified to consecrate a marriage that the First National Church of Send Us Your Money?
Kavanaugh is done. No way he gets confirmed after being credibly accused of sexual assault. And there will not be enough time for Putin's Puppet to install someone else before the #BlueWave puts the Democrats back in control of the Senate.
Orange Hitler will be removed from office by this time next year when Mueller delivers his final report to the Democratic House and Senate. And soon we'll have a Democratic President who will appoint more justices like RBG.
Trump = Hitler? You *are* a fucking moron. So you think a wacky tweet is as bad as a concentration camp and genocide. Get a fucking clue. You discredit your entire argument by your gross extreme hyperbole.
I think Kavanaugh is ultimately going to withdraw. The funny (funny sad; not funny ha-ha) part will be when Trump nominates someone far worse than him.
Don't be too hard on ENB. Her journalistic peers look at libertarians like almost conservative/sort of Hitler/somewhat deplorables.
If she still wants to get dinner invites or visit the club on weekends, she has to dissemble on important woke matters.
The high-profile Cornell nutrition researcher whose papers have been getting retracted recently has announced that he will resign at the end of the 2019 academic year.
Like an overfilled plate, his career is taking a while to fully digest.
So what is the deal here; some asshole has tried to defend Kavanaugh by attempting to destroy another innocent man?
Fucking hell. He only destroyed another innocent man if you think Ford it telling the truth and that there's anything to be done about it. This is only a problem if Garrett's employers and family are the inconsistent vindictive retards you people seem to be.
Ford's lawyers continue to insist that she will not testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday but say she can do it later in the week, perhaps Thursday.
The Senate should continue to insist that the confirmation vote will be held this afternoon.
Above all if they have the votes they should vote, and not worry what it looks like. Future Former Senator McCaskill can deal with that as she likes.
But if it's needed, they may want to publicly accede to as many of her demands as they can; return to a place where it's her that's left looking unreasonable in the balance. Like give her up to a week delay if she wants it. But others on her ridiculous laundry list don't do. Like I think I saw she said she won't answer questions from an outside counsel, which the press says the Republicans had been planning to avoid the optics of 11 men (11 white men, as of course it has to be inevitably reported in this day and age even though race has absolutely nothing to do with any of this) grilling her. Of course this is an indefensible request that they need not take more seriously than the cutesy gamesmanship it is intended to be.
The Republicans in Congress are bending over backwards to accommodate Ford. Their reward from the Left? Her Soros-supported left wing activist lawyer is complaining to the press about how terrible the Republicans are treating her. You cannot placate the Left. The Left are crazy. The Left have no concern for the truth.
I can't wait for the progs to explode in outrage that Whelan suggested the act was done by this guy without providing any evidence or details whatsoever. And no irony, of course.
Of course the hypocrisy of it all doesn't even faze them, their own hypocrisy defines them. It's born from an enormous moral superiority complex that negates any introspection and protects them from having to actually think.
I like Peterson. I think he deserves major credit for standing up to the ideological Liberal party for their stance on legislating gender pronouns and matters of free speech as a whole. I also think most of the criticism against is often misguided and completely misunderstood. And still more aren't even rebuttals but just gibberish about lobsters and the Bible.
live under a monarchy
Which the Liberals and the Trendy-P absolutely hate. It signifies White Imperialism, eurocentrism and the Patriarchy to them.
The Conservatives on the other hand see it as Canada's cultural heritage and part of what defines us as a people.
The thing I'm curious of is whether he meant it is Treasonous in a legal sense, or whether he's just using exaggeration language. I don't know Peterson well enough to say either way. Considering how much he's hated though, a phrasing like this will be taken in the worst possible way though.
Most of the "intellectual dark web" types (Rubin of all people may be becoming an interesting exception) are just garden-variety centrist-technocrat progs who dissent from the orthodox ideology of their social class only on the narrow (albeit certainly extremely important) issue of woke culture--because they sense that its totalitarian bigotry is a mortal threat to free speech and humanist anti-tribalism. They have little or no interest in opening themselves up to a more thoroughgoing classical liberalism. They would barely contain their bathing suit area juices at the possibility of a President Bloomberg. (But note that Bloomberg himself, historically rather antagonistic to wokeness, has lately taken to keeping his mouth shut in the knowledge that people are well inclined to forgive him and his billions any past sins. These days none but the most naively serious would ever be so gauche as to mention any disqualifications of his as a hero of the #Resistance.)
...Their woke counterparts, so otherwise indistinguishable, utterly loathe them for their heresy. Or rather, they have made ostentatiously pronouncing their loathing for them into a central part of their virtue-signalling class shibboleth. It's easy to see why, of course--wokeness is utterly indispensible to their virtue signalling practice, because cheaply demonstrating solidarity with the oppressed is just as important a part as spitting contempt and condescension at them, as is disguising the essentially elitist nature of your preferred policies. Yeah, I liked the Pat Bateman type of yuppie-sociopath better too. Don't look at me; I don't make the rules.
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I don't think Tucker is a credible source, Jordan. Find a better one before treason is thrown around please."
Based on what? How is he not credible? As opposed to....?
This morning, Whelan apologized for identifying Garrett.
He didn't 'identify' Garrett. Whelan proposed an alternative theory where Garrett is one of the lizard people. But that theory was quickly shot down by Ford, who is part of the lizard people.
Group sues government for seizing reporter's records.
Well, first they came for the conservative groups yet you said Nut-n-Honey... NOW do you get it?
As legal marijuana markets continue to emerge, marijuana use is now as popular among older adults as it is among young adults and teenagers, according to a new national survey.
This is indeed a crisis. Imagine, the elderly, cruising in their beat-up VW Buses and having orgies in public paks... Wiggling their loose skin all over ... Ew.
Wansink, notes Ars Technica, "was world-renowned for his massively popular, commonsense-style dieting studies before ultimately going down in flames in a beefy statistics scandal."
"cruising in their beat-up VW Buses"
...into store windows and and the path of oncoming trains, with their turn signals on the whole time (not that they need pot to drive like that)
Ford's lawyers continue to insist that she will not testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday but say she can do it later in the week, perhaps Thursday.
Oh bullshit. They're an even bigger bunch of lying cunts than you are.
"California Bans Plastic Straws in Restaurants, But Exempts Fast Food"
[...]
"In a signing message, Brown cited the general impact of plastics, and wrote, "we must find ways to reduce and eventually eliminate single-use plastic products." The fines for the straw ban are $25 per day after a few violations up to $300 per year." http://fortune.com/2018/09/20/california
-bans-straws-except-fast-food/
I am proud to say that there is not one single person who now or ever held office in CA for whom I voted.
When Starchild gets elected, that'll change.
Jordan Peterson: If this is true it is treasonous and should be treated as such.
Tucker Carlson: Internal documents obtained by TuckerCarlsonTonight show Google employees discussed corrupting the company's search engine to push propaganda on hundreds of millions of unsuspecting users, all for the sake of resisting President Trump.
Yes, treasonous! How dare they go against company policies? They should be terminated immediately! Find other work! There ought to be a... Human Resources department investigation! Why, those people should be dealt with swiftly! Throw the company's Ethics Rule Book at THEM!!!!!!!!!!!
Uh, we're not talking actual, Constitutionally-defined "treason" here, JP. The company can do whatever it wants. The users can also do whatever they want. DJT is not the State, no matter what he believes, or Trumpistas believe.
OM, does it matter what you do when you're resisting the president's policies? Say, trying to overturn the results of a legitimate election through bogus charges?
By law, no they can't. In Google's case, this would probably run afoul of an 'in-kind' contribution which is codified in our current campaign finance laws.
In fact, it's not that they can't manipulate people with false information, they're not allowed to manipulate them with true information either.
The group alleges that "neither Ms. Watkins nor Ms. Watkins' employers appear to have been made aware of the government's use of legal process to collect these records until long after the collection had begun."
Every president builds on the power the previous administrations collected. Trump was definitely going to be no different.
So ENB is horrified at the President's suggestion that sexual assault victims should contact law enforcement at the time of the crime and not 30-some years after the fact as a contrived part of some political freakshow?
Hey Brown...Ford lied and the incident never happened. You're a fool if you believe otherwise. Honest people make their accusations under oath, which Ford is refusing to do. Because she knows that once she gives any details under oath that can be debunked, she's open to a perjury charge.
Lizzie is a lying left-wing asshole, and as much as she despises men, like all lying left-wing assholes she doesn't really "believe all women" either. She doesnn't and never did believe Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, or any of Bill clinton's other accusers. She only believes liberal democrat women who accuse guys that she doesn't like. Par for the course.
As legal marijuana markets continue to emerge, marijuana use is now as popular among older adults as it is among young adults and teenagers, according to a new national survey.
I know a few elderly people wondering about the benefits of marijuana use. These are the most reliable voting bloc in the world. How is marijuana not descheduled yet? At some point it will become a voter issue for them and that will overtake the prohibition lobby's influence.
It's really getting hard to know if Trump is just is a once in a generation idiot/savant type troll or the just greatest Andy Kaufman esq troll to ever live. In either case not knowing which has to lend credibility to the latter.
Kavanaugh drama takes soap-operatic turn. An influential conservative operative and friend of Judge Brett Kavanaugh's has put forth a novel theory about the sexual assault allegation that threatens to derail Kavanaugh's path to the Supreme Court.
Yeah because previously unknown characters showing up out of nowhere with allegations of sexual abuse are standard fare for sitcoms. Semi-secretive disclosure to a Senator but not the police, near complete amnesia about the whole event... it might as well be an episode of Friends or Seinfeld. But a case of mistaken identity? That's telenovella schlock!
I figure the Democrats' next move on the Kavanaugh vote is to bring in a psychic who claims she saw the whole thing in a vision.
Dark lady laughed and danced and lit the candles one by one
Danced to her gypsy music till her brew was done
Dark lady played back magic till the clock struck on the twelve
She told me more about me than I knew myself
Jordan B. Peterson, free speech warrior, exhibits A and B:
Come on, Eliz., he's exhibiting Helsinki, Finland syndrome because he's a political prisoner inCanada, where they force him to teach alternative psych in an icy gulag and pay him in CAD. {shudders} euugghh...
Constitutionally this is a status well beyond even "an investigation"; it's a Congressional investigation. They are indulging her enormously by even reading one of her "demands." They could technically get the U.S. Marshals to bust her door down and drag her ass in to be forced to answer whatever questions they feel like, whenever they feel like it. It's a good thing she never wrote any dirty song lyrics or she wouldn't be so mouthy!
We all know what's going on here.
McConnell and Grassley need to grow a pair and be the adults in the room; no special treatment, no demands will be entertained, show up on Monday to testify and be cross examined or don't, your choice.
The affairs of state don't get to be organized around Ford's social diary and the demands of partisan hack attorneys.
We know that legally they can order her to appear in the hearing room and submit to being questioned (subject to any legal privileges against certain questions).
Politically, the question is whether that can be successfully portrayed as "re-traumatizing a rape victim."
Mr. Scarborough has come up with the latest take. We are treating Christine Ford so shamefully differently from the priest abuse victims because the latter are boys.
I am surprised but not entirely so. Cam Kasky was always the only one of the Big Three who even remotely seemed like a serious kid. He is close friends with Lil'-Shapiro-in-training Kyle Kashuv and they retweet each other a lot. They actually didn't know each other before this but they made friends with each other over the shooting--especially impressive when you consider that apparently a huge bulk of his classmates, and of course certainly the local police authorities, are treating Kashuv like garbage these days. I figured Kasky could go one of two ways with respect to being a normal person, and it looks like we have the answer. He and Kashuv actually broke up publicly over Twitter in an exchange that made Kasky look very bad indeed, and I figured he'd finally gone, but it looks like they have long since made up. Kids and their drama!
I was impressed by Kashuv, who was mostly ignored by media 'cause he didn't have the "correct" viewpoint, from the start. A little later it became obvious why, there were 960 students in his year at school, when their grades came out he was first.
BUC and perichpr:
Totally agree, I listened to him being interviewd and was very, very impressed, I wasn't a 1/10 as articulate at that age, he's obviously a very bright kid.
I was too late to the Beto love fest article the other day, but y'all know there's a Libertarian running against the two of them right? It's a little weird that an ostensibly libertarian magazine doesn't even make passing mention to that fact.
That's because the Texas Libertarian, Neal Dikeman, throughly understands how libertarian spoiler votes force looter politicians to repeal bad laws or lose their seats and paychecks to other, less totalitarian, looter politicians. Reason has its advertisers and donors to think of, many of whom participate only as Trojan Horse infiltrators seeking handholds for sabotage. So we have Nick, the Pope's Patsy, the Anarchist who Doesn't Vote, and some others working in subtle ways to further the kleptocracy agenda while pretending to oppose it and support libertarian jurisprudence. Look at what happened to France. Vichy collaborators all pretended to be helping France before they were shorn and paraded past their fellow citizens on their way to judgment in 1945.
Between kavanaugh and "trade war" Reason has been getting pretty tiresome to read the last few weeks. Might be time to set up some filters on my RSS for a little bit to give me a break from this dead horse beating
I'm annoyed Jordan Peterson called google's actions "treasonous"... they're not. They are very likely a violation of black-letter campaign finance law.
An acquaintance who grew up in France (and is a certified prog here in USA) said he can't believe how puritanical the U.S. is, that a teenage boy could fondle a teenage girl 35 years ago, live an exemplary life since, and that said fondling is cause for professional misconduct and disgrace. He seems to think no male in France would have employment today if such standards applied there and elsewhere in Europe.
(Of course, Polanski was actually prosecuted and pled guilty shortly after the offense - the reason it's still an issue now is that he didn't show up when it came time to serve his prison term.)
What I've seen asserted is beyond belief. Like a teenage girl would watch Animal House and think, "So?".
I haven't verified the yearbook and, recalling my yearbook and HS years, there were certainly embellishment and baseless innuendo being written into the pages but still, it's makes his yearbook look tame and makes her story even harder to believe.
"Fahrenheit 11/9 is a 2018 American political documentary by filmmaker Michael Moore about the 2016 United States presidential election and the subsequent presidency of Donald Trump. The film had its world premiere on September 6, 2018 at the 2018 Toronto International Film Festival, and was released in the United States on September 21, 2018, by Briarcliff Entertainment. The film received mostly positive reviews, with critics saying it "[preaches] to a specific choir, but for anyone who's enjoyed Moore's filmography [it is] another worthy chapter."[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_11/9
.... Especially since it's not like there is any artistry in that type of movie. Critics act like there is art there even though they're essentially reviewing an op-ed piece with moving pictures.
It's not so much that Michael Moore is biased, it's that he lies in his films.
If you flatter and fawn upon your potential audience, I might add, you are patronizing them and insulting them. By the same token, if I write an article and I quote somebody and for space reasons put in an ellipsis like this (?), I swear on my children that I am not leaving out anything that, if quoted in full, would alter the original meaning or its significance. Those who violate this pact with readers or viewers are to be despised. At no point does Michael Moore make the smallest effort to be objective. --Christopher Hitchens.
Yeah, you might tolerate an honest useful idiot, but like Tony and the Clintons, he seems incapable of honesty.
If honesty would serve, he (and they) would lie to keep in practice.
I was unaware that Dr. Ford knew Judge Kavanaugh and the other individual until I read this article. Absent this information, the idea that a woman who had been attacked would mis-identify her attacker is empirically supported by any number of cases (Timothy Cole and Steven Avery come to mind).
Journalism dies in darkness, from paraphrasing. Reason article: "She says that she knew both Kavanaugh and Garrett before the night in question, that she and Garrett had traveled in the same social circles, and that she had even visited Garrett when he had been hospitalized. "There is zero chance that I would confuse them," she said in a statement.".
What's been reported elsewhere:
Ford said she "knew them both, and socialized with" them, according to a Washington Post report published Thursday. Ford added that she visited the other classmate in a hospital.
"There is zero chance that I would confuse them," she said in a statement to The Post.
"The dumbest part about Whelan's theory is that it turns on Ford having remembered precisely how many people were at the gathering that night 36 years ago but not which one of them attempted to rape her."
The notes from Ford's therapist in 2012 say that Ford said there were four guys holding her down.
Has anyone seen a reasonable defense of the idea that people should be disqualified from public office today for what they did 35 years ago when they were minors?
The 19-year-old Long Island woman ? who claimed she was raped by two Sacred Heart University football players, then admitted months later to police that she lied to impress a prospective boyfriend, then claimed on the witness stand she was forced to have sex without her consent, and then pleaded guilty to criminal charges, admitting her deceit to a judge ? stood handcuffed Thursday morning, rolling her eyes as one of her victims poured out his heart in court.
A useful rule for *future* nominations would be not to consider allegations unless they were made soon after the alleged offense. Exceptions would be murder//treason/genocide/starting a nuclear war and the like.
I thought surely Kavanaugh was not as potato-faced when he was a boy, but that is one nondescript man. And so is the evil twin guy. They don't feed them much corn on the east coast do they.
Funny how someone with no memory at all of some facts because she was drunk is crystal-clear on others. Especially those most convenient to help you complete the mission of smearing your target.
The usual confirmation hearing faeces-flinging by congregants of both looter parties was an amusing sideshow--like the attacks on Clarence Thomas. But underlying the circus is the fact that the LP platform of 1972 stopped Dixiecrats from stripping women of individual rights when it became the Roe v Wade decision in the hands of the Supreme Court shortly after the election. Libertarians can benefit by deleting the moronic "good faith" plank giving aid and comfort to Republicans and alienating women voters. Gee-Oh-Pee fanatics have since 1976 polluted their every platform with demands for a Forced Labor Amendment to threaten physicians and bring back coathanger abortions. Bad enough that Republicans still force job seekers to piss in paper cups as part of their Comstock-era race suicide eugenics fads.
To be fair, Whelan has as much evidence that Garrett raped Ford as Ford does that Kavanaugh raped her.
If Ford can make such a claim with zero evidence, why can't anybody else? Of course, she gets the benefit of being taken seriously with zero evidence and a Swiss cheese story.
Apparently, it is arbitrary but moral to believe her , and arbitrary but immoral to believe him.
Would it be OK to bring up her drinking and sexual history in high school when she testifies Thursday?
In reality, suggested Whelan, it was probably a boy named Chris Garrett who assaulted Ford when she was 15.
It's going to get crowded under that bus.
"My friend Brett Kavanaugh has been wrongly accused!!! Wrongly accusing someone of a heinous act is a horrible injustice!!! Only one way to make it right - I'll wrongly accuse some other rando!!!"
The logic of the politically zealous is beyond comprehension.
When you think about it, wasn't she raped by... sniff...all of us?
"I shouted out, 'Who raped Chris Blasey Ford?', ...."
Yeah, Every DA should just start adding The Patriarchy as an unindicted co-conspirator on every rape indictment.
"Please point on the dolly where The Patriarchy touched you, for the nice judge."
The Patriarichy is dying off, along with the vestigial, stale-thinking losers it has attracted and generated . . . so who should be blamed then?
"The Patriarchy" can't die-then what would feminists use as an excuse for their numerous shortcomings?
The batteries died in their vibrator and they don't have money for new ones now that their boyfriend left them?
Yes. If you have a Y chromosome, you must admit she was raped by every-swinging-dick-one-of-us*. And then shut the fuck up.
*Unless you are a woman with a penis who identifies as a woman, which means of course that you are a woman and therefore Must Be Believed. Because for you to lie about anything would be unpossible. Obviously.
No, I understand the reasoning: Based on her yearbook, she was probably drunk enough at the time, assuming it even happened, that she'd have been lucky to remember the gender of whoever hypothetically assaulted her. Demonstrating that there was somebody else in the school who was a dead ringer for Kavanaugh IS relevant.
Yeah, nasty thing to do to Garrett, but, the logic of the comment is valid.
Just as valid as the logic of birtherism, Brett?
Our stale-thinking, credulous right-wingers can't die off too quickly for society's good.
Same boring shit from you. You're too predictable to even be annoying anymore.
Just a bitter, sad, unoriginal progtard.
Hello.
I am Chris Garrettus !
I am Cory Booker!
Where was the one armed man?
If one arm was covering her mouth, how was he talking her clothes off?
With his penis you fool. You can't do that?
No, probably with his teeth for dramatic effect.
He hypnotized her into removing her own clothes.
His tail removed her clothes, his penis kept people away, and he used his hands to clap at how great she was doing.
I learned from Reason today that unsubstantiated allegations are wrong, unless protecting Roe v. Wade is on the line. Then you can smear someone without a shred of evidence
Sadly, I think your assessment is correct.
It seems that "free minds and free markets" now expresses a variant of libertarianism that is continuously modified to align with progressive fads and issues du jour.
Reason publishes some interesting stuff, but its alignment with most of the progressive agenda on issues that are not libertarian in its "thin" formulation alienates many genuine libertarians.
Reason is no longer a truly libertarian media organization. It is progressive-libertarian. Instead of promoting the libertarian idea, it constructs arguments from a libertarian perspective to advance the progressive agenda. In so doing, they are bound to alienate genuine libertarians who hold traditional views with respect to their own conduct.
No longer? Hasn't been for a while.
There's a reason I won't re-subscribe or even turn off my ad-blocker.
I'd say Bring Back Postrel, but she doesn't deserve that sort of treatment.
A fine statement from the "Libertarians for Border Walls, Compulsory Transvaginal Ultrasounds, Tariffs, Statist Micromanagement Of Certain Clinics, Protectionism, Massive Military Budgets, Government Gay-Bashing, And Bigoted, Authoritarian Immigration Policies" branch of the libertarian movement.
Carry on, clingers.
Ineffectually, as is customary.
Utter nonsense. Your attempt at mind-reading is entirely incorrect.
I think it was a chupacabra that tried to slip his spiny inseminator into the sweet young Blasey. She was saved by the heroic efforts of Kavanaugh. No good deed goes unpunished.
Whelan just sacrificed some random dude who happened to be a classmate of Kavanaugh's at Georgetown Prep back in the '80s.
Saying all white teens look alike is kind of racist. Of you, ENB.
Not in her cocktail circle.
ENB must have never learned irony in J School.
I made an appalling and inexcusable mistake of judgment in posting the tweet thread in a way that identified Kavanaugh's Georgetown Prep classmate. I take full responsibility for that mistake, and I deeply apologize for it. I realize that does not undo the mistake.
? Ed Whelan (@EdWhelanEPPC) September 21, 2018
He deleted it because it served its purpose.
Two can play that game.
What he did was fucking despicable and I say that as someone who is 90% sure Ford is totally full of shit.
It also reads like a random thought, that due to the mass information of Twitter, has become a national story instead of just some shit he discussed briefly with his buddies.
In this case it was pretty calculated. He was a known friend of Kavanaugh and spent several days building up to this reveal. It's unlikely he didn't foresee the impact it would have on the third party and, in fact, he was doing to Garrett what many are credibly believing Ford is doing to Kavanaugh.
Garrett faces no consequences tho.
Will Ford?
I disagree. He has his name dragged into something he probably didn't have anything to do with. The results of a Twitter mob can spill over into real life, unfortunately.
Are we talking about Kavanaugh or the guy that Whelan smeared?
Exactly.
Interesting. It's such a stupid theory.
Perfect for Republicans then.
Whine more.
Lizard, the democrat party is a bunch of clown shoes. You have laughable people like Maxine Waters, and Keith Ellison as it's leaders. Yet you cast aspersions on republicans?
You are a silly, stupid bitch. You are a valueless thrall to those kinds of people. So not only do you support morons like the aforementioned, but you also are their pet.
Pathetic doesn't begin to cover it.
"Unsubstantiated allegations are wrong" and "Kavanaugh has been credibly accused by a woman who cannot recall the time, date, or place of her assault and the only witnesses that she has identified have disputed her story"
How can someone hold both ideas in their head at the same time?
The victim is a woman. Therefore she is credible. Two facts are more than sufficient to substantiate her allegations. Number one, she's a woman. Number two, the accused is a white, heterosexual male who comes from a conservative, bourgeois family. However, if you persist in being unreasonable in your insistence that her allegations are unsubstantiated, there is another pertinent fact. The victim lived in the vicinity of her victimizer during the period in which this crime took place.
That's all it takes for millions of Americans to believe her accusations without reasonable doubt and for clear-thinking public servants in the Congress to pronounce their judgment. It's even good enough for Reason magazine to admit she's credible. It should be good enough for you, too, Just Say'n.
It would've been great satire, sadly, it wasn't meant to be satire.
If this is true it is treasonous and should be treated as such.
ladies and gentlemen, start your "me, when i'm [minor inconvenience]" memes
Treason is defined in the constitution. Google's acts, much though they may offend, do not meet the statutory requirements.
Some people are rigid about definitions and clarity of expression, but only when it suits them. I'm looking at you, Peterson. Amongst a horde of others, of course.
I'm just going to assume all my false assumptions are true.
The twisting of facts, while not treasonous, it accepted if the correct people are doing it for the right reasons.
The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, on the other hand...
He's Canadian. WTF is he complaining about treason in the US in the first place?
Inside every Canuck there is an American trying to get out.
Not true, a lot of Canadians are the descendants of those who would rather flee the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave than not bow and scrape to a king.
there is an American trying to get out
Not really, but we live downhill of your septic tank, and know whenever it overflows with bad shit, we end up soaking in it.
I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man.
In Canada the definition of "Treason" is considerably broader, but I still don't think it qualifies, though I am not certain. However what Google was up to tuns afoul of several Canadian laws, so good thing they aren't Canadian.
Not Helping
In the future anarcho-capitalist society, Domino's will pave the roads and [checks notes] Golf Digest will investigate crimes.
saw valentino dixon on today show this morning. he was inspiring.
After suggesting yesterday that a 15-year-old Ford should have gone to the FBI with her attempted rape allegations (the FBI do not handle such cases)...
(That's not what I'm being told these days.)
Do I still call the FBI about lost pets?
Cat in a tree again?
There may be a Russian Blue out there with elections approaching.
don't call Detroit PD
That is ignoring the forest for an out of place tree. She apparently did not register any kind of complaint with law enforcement at the alleged time this happened, and did not say anything about it to anyone for 30 years.
It's fun hearing someone demsplain what constitutes a 'credible' accusation.
Tony did it too. He decided it was credible for everyone.
"I want to believe it" = credible to Tony.
Tanzania outlaws fact checking government stats.
the outlaw josey wales's catchphrase should have been "well, actually"
When you outlaw fact checking, only outlaws will have facts.
A new federal court ruling "means that effective immediately, anyone who produces more than $250 in ads that tell voters who to vote for in a federal campaign must identify any donor who gave them more than $200 in a single year."
Well, if it doesn't include rubles the law is meaningless and Hillary will never be president.
All money diverted to local and state campaigns.
Or...
That's a great way to reduce participation in the political process by people who are afraid of being attacked by crazed left-wing mobs.
(Yeah, I know "crazed left-wing" is redundant.)
Prison Legal News asks the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene in its case against Florida prisons.
Haven't they heard? The court is about to have a member who should be in prison. For lying.
And looking like a rapist. Perhaps.
To those who accept allegations without evidence.
Really? What lie and under what law?
"The dumbest part about Whelan's theory is that it turns on Ford having remembered precisely how many people were at the gathering that night 35 years ago"
No, the dumbest thing about it is that it assumes that most of her story is credible and true except for an innocent mistake.
No, the dumbest thing about it is that it assumes that most of her story is credible and true except for an innocent mistake.
And really, Whelan may or may not be asserting that as much as everyone else believes it. The fabrication is erroneous in the extreme, explanations of or for the fabrication cannot exceed it.
John Pfaff on the incalculable costs of mass incarceration.
One person's cost is another person's revenue.
Very important piece from the Washington Post:
"Want to help prevent rape? Withdraw Kavanaugh's nomination."
I've spent the past few weeks arguing we should use every legal method available to #CancelKavanaugh. But now that Dr. Ford has credibly accused him of sexual assault, the case against him is even stronger. Anybody who opposes rape must join with Democratic Senators and #Resist this terrible nominee.
#LibertariansForFeinstein
#LibertariansAgainstRapeCulture
#StopHimBeforeHeRapesAgain
It has only been 35 years since this allegedly happened, he could strike again at any time!
Yes, to prevent rape you should pull out. That makes sense.
Anybody who opposes rape must join with Democratic Senators and #Resist this terrible nominee.
Does that include anybody who opposes sheep-fucking?
Allowing the Democrats to pull the wool over our eyes sets a very ba-a-a-a-ad precedent.
I kind of agree with her main argument. That those people who say "even if it did happen, who cares?" are being pretty dang crass.
The problem is we just have one persons perspective of what happened based on her memories from 35 years ago. It's very likely if this did indeed happen she has many of the details wrong.
"even if it did happen, who cares?" is the logical conclusion to reach in regards to the Kav nomination. You can't look at the evidence and come to a different conclusion BECAUSE IT'S DAMN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE IT HAPPENED!
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THIS IS BEING USED WHEN'S IT'S BEING USED!
Why is this so hard for people to understand this?
I think it's almost entirely unlikely as well. But if for some reason they showed that he did exactly what she said, then I'd certainly be taken aback. Maybe it's just because I don't actually care about Kavanaugh, but if it turned out he was an attempted rapist beyond a doubt, I would at least give pause.
Heres the thing about rapists, they rape- Over and over and over.
But now that Dr. Ford has credibly accused
They keep using that word, I do not think it means what they think it means.
say i don't oppose rape?
Are you a Turk besieging Constantinople?
That just pillagers who dont oppose pillaging.
OBLT, is your comment sarcasm or are you so fucking stupid that you find her allegations credible? So no evidence is enough for you?
Libertarians for Feinstein!? That is fucking stupid.
I dont remember this party, at some person's house, in this area that I'm not sure of, not sure how many drinks I had, not sure who was there, don't remember much....but
IT WAS KAVANAUGH!
But... do you remember the year? Decade?
Mr. Whelan should have just said it was some other unidentified guy at some party somewhere on an unknown date in an unknown year. Everyone would have believed that, right?
If he has a penis he must be lying.
If she has a vagina, she must be telling the truth.
Ahem. If xi identifies as having a vagina, ....
You mean "front hole", don't you?
Limiting those who must be telling the truth to those who have a vagina is transphobic.
He should have blamed it on some puerto rican guy.
His case seemed to center on the house itself, as he identified a house that appeared to be a fairly precise match to Ford's description as to layout and location. That house was owned by Garret's parents. Add in that Garret and Kavanaugh had been considered look alikes since back in high school and thats the basis for the claim. So Whelan couldn't really not identify Garret, as that is central to his premises.
"Talk to your grandparents about marijuana?before somebody else does,"
murder, she toked
In the future anarcho-capitalist society, Domino's will pave the roads and [checks notes] Golf Digest will investigate crimes. https://t.co/pEea5Pdd9f
? Rob Szarka (@szarka) September 21, 2018
And Chick-fil-A will consecrate marriages. The right ones.
And righteous ESPN writers and radio hosts will make up the Supreme Court.
To be fair, marriage is only between and man and woman.
wtf is a marriage?
I think it's a type of cake.
A mixture of two or more elements.
Two dicks or two cunts are not different elements.
And Chick-fil-A will consecrate marriages.
So still no wedding pizza goddamnit?! You guys can keep your libertopia.
So, admittedly I know nothing about Rob Szarka. But, I'm trying to figure out if that tweet was intended to be a criticism or a celebration.
Is he suggesting that we should depend on the government to investigate their own misconduct in prosecuting crimes? Is he suggesting that it's a bad thing when individuals and corporations achieve things that our overlords can't/don't/won't? Is Chick-fil-A actually somehow less qualified to consecrate a marriage that the First National Church of Send Us Your Money?
And cater the reception.
The liar is not going to testify against Kavanaugh and he will be confirmed next week.
Lefties will move on to the next OUTRAGE target.
Lefties are going to be really upset when Trump gets to pick a SCOTUS replacement for Thomas, RBG, and Breyer.
Totally wrong.
Kavanaugh is done. No way he gets confirmed after being credibly accused of sexual assault. And there will not be enough time for Putin's Puppet to install someone else before the #BlueWave puts the Democrats back in control of the Senate.
Orange Hitler will be removed from office by this time next year when Mueller delivers his final report to the Democratic House and Senate. And soon we'll have a Democratic President who will appoint more justices like RBG.
#SaveRoe
#StandWithPP
IT WAS HER TURN!
You mean have more jurists who disparage the US Constitution in the Supreme Court?
Trump = Hitler? You *are* a fucking moron. So you think a wacky tweet is as bad as a concentration camp and genocide. Get a fucking clue. You discredit your entire argument by your gross extreme hyperbole.
I think Kavanaugh is ultimately going to withdraw. The funny (funny sad; not funny ha-ha) part will be when Trump nominates someone far worse than him.
Better you mean. Kavanaugh was kennedy's pick. Since he was kennedys oick, he was not as good as gorsuch who was picked outside the establishment.
Normally I would laugh at kennedys pick get railroaded and a better pick being selected, but Lefties will take it as a win and try this tactic again.
"Neither Ford nor anyone else had named Garrett as someone who had been around on the night in question."
which night was that again?
"But Garrett's family did live in the vicinity of where Ford said they were hanging out that night, and other (named) attendees allegedly did not."
ohh, THAT night
Look, if Reason doesn't carry water for the accuser her story might appear vague or hard to prove!
Hard to Prove is my second favorite Segal film.
Don't be too hard on ENB. Her journalistic peers look at libertarians like almost conservative/sort of Hitler/somewhat deplorables.
If she still wants to get dinner invites or visit the club on weekends, she has to dissemble on important woke matters.
The high-profile Cornell nutrition researcher whose papers have been getting retracted recently has announced that he will resign at the end of the 2019 academic year.
Like an overfilled plate, his career is taking a while to fully digest.
Let's not be mealymouthed here--he's made a real mess of his career.
Just desserts.
So what is the deal here; some asshole has tried to defend Kavanaugh by attempting to destroy another innocent man? Good Lord.
What did you *want* him to say? That Ford was assaulted by a *space alien*?
Trump is looking south to protect the country from aliens, but he should be watching the skies.
"That Ford was assaulted by a *space alien*?"
Someone better get this to Feinstein stat! Kav is a space alien! Prove me wrong!
If he is innocent, he has nothing to fear.
Cute. Very cute.
So what is the deal here; some asshole has tried to defend Kavanaugh by attempting to destroy another innocent man?
Fucking hell. He only destroyed another innocent man if you think Ford it telling the truth and that there's anything to be done about it. This is only a problem if Garrett's employers and family are the inconsistent vindictive retards you people seem to be.
Ford's lawyers continue to insist that she will not testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday but say she can do it later in the week, perhaps Thursday.
The Senate should continue to insist that the confirmation vote will be held this afternoon.
VOTE! Vote! VOTE!
Above all if they have the votes they should vote, and not worry what it looks like. Future Former Senator McCaskill can deal with that as she likes.
But if it's needed, they may want to publicly accede to as many of her demands as they can; return to a place where it's her that's left looking unreasonable in the balance. Like give her up to a week delay if she wants it. But others on her ridiculous laundry list don't do. Like I think I saw she said she won't answer questions from an outside counsel, which the press says the Republicans had been planning to avoid the optics of 11 men (11 white men, as of course it has to be inevitably reported in this day and age even though race has absolutely nothing to do with any of this) grilling her. Of course this is an indefensible request that they need not take more seriously than the cutesy gamesmanship it is intended to be.
My personal favorite is her demand that Kavanaugh testify AND be questioned first and not be allowed to respond to her testimony.
Because clearly there is no reason to ask Kavanaugh about specifics after.
*My* personal favorite is her demand that Kavanaugh bring her a shrubbery.
And he must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a herring.
The Republicans in Congress are bending over backwards to accommodate Ford. Their reward from the Left? Her Soros-supported left wing activist lawyer is complaining to the press about how terrible the Republicans are treating her. You cannot placate the Left. The Left are crazy. The Left have no concern for the truth.
I can't wait for the progs to explode in outrage that Whelan suggested the act was done by this guy without providing any evidence or details whatsoever. And no irony, of course.
Of course the hypocrisy of it all doesn't even faze them, their own hypocrisy defines them. It's born from an enormous moral superiority complex that negates any introspection and protects them from having to actually think.
I like Peterson. I think he deserves major credit for standing up to the ideological Liberal party for their stance on legislating gender pronouns and matters of free speech as a whole. I also think most of the criticism against is often misguided and completely misunderstood. And still more aren't even rebuttals but just gibberish about lobsters and the Bible.
But I think he's wrong to call it treasonous.
I was just going to say, he's Canadian, he has no innate concept of freedom to work with, cut him some slack. Then I saw who I was replying to.
Also, congratulations on being the first person in Canadian history ever to use "ideological" and "Liberal Party" in the same sentence.
I'm special that way.
Canadians do live under a monarchy, so he is used to giving deference to the head of state.
live under a monarchy
Which the Liberals and the Trendy-P absolutely hate. It signifies White Imperialism, eurocentrism and the Patriarchy to them.
The Conservatives on the other hand see it as Canada's cultural heritage and part of what defines us as a people.
Not just wrong, but silly and beneath his intelligence.
The thing I'm curious of is whether he meant it is Treasonous in a legal sense, or whether he's just using exaggeration language. I don't know Peterson well enough to say either way. Considering how much he's hated though, a phrasing like this will be taken in the worst possible way though.
In Canadian law it does dance on the edge of treason.
Man, you really don't like Peterson, huh ENB?
Most of the "intellectual dark web" types (Rubin of all people may be becoming an interesting exception) are just garden-variety centrist-technocrat progs who dissent from the orthodox ideology of their social class only on the narrow (albeit certainly extremely important) issue of woke culture--because they sense that its totalitarian bigotry is a mortal threat to free speech and humanist anti-tribalism. They have little or no interest in opening themselves up to a more thoroughgoing classical liberalism. They would barely contain their bathing suit area juices at the possibility of a President Bloomberg. (But note that Bloomberg himself, historically rather antagonistic to wokeness, has lately taken to keeping his mouth shut in the knowledge that people are well inclined to forgive him and his billions any past sins. These days none but the most naively serious would ever be so gauche as to mention any disqualifications of his as a hero of the #Resistance.)
...Their woke counterparts, so otherwise indistinguishable, utterly loathe them for their heresy. Or rather, they have made ostentatiously pronouncing their loathing for them into a central part of their virtue-signalling class shibboleth. It's easy to see why, of course--wokeness is utterly indispensible to their virtue signalling practice, because cheaply demonstrating solidarity with the oppressed is just as important a part as spitting contempt and condescension at them, as is disguising the essentially elitist nature of your preferred policies. Yeah, I liked the Pat Bateman type of yuppie-sociopath better too. Don't look at me; I don't make the rules.
Traitors are always worse than enemies.
Blasphemy is still an offense, but the gods are different.
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I don't think Tucker is a credible source, Jordan. Find a better one before treason is thrown around please."
Based on what? How is he not credible? As opposed to....?
He's one of those people. You can't trust them.
He didn't 'identify' Garrett. Whelan proposed an alternative theory where Garrett is one of the lizard people. But that theory was quickly shot down by Ford, who is part of the lizard people.
Well, first they came for the conservative groups yet you said Nut-n-Honey... NOW do you get it?
This is indeed a crisis. Imagine, the elderly, cruising in their beat-up VW Buses and having orgies in public paks... Wiggling their loose skin all over ... Ew.
I guess the science wasn't settled after all.
"cruising in their beat-up VW Buses"
...into store windows and and the path of oncoming trains, with their turn signals on the whole time (not that they need pot to drive like that)
It'll be like Reefer madness, but with walkers!
You've emerged from your dementia OM! Let's hope it never returns.
Ford's lawyers continue to insist that she will not testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday but say she can do it later in the week, perhaps Thursday.
Oh bullshit. They're an even bigger bunch of lying cunts than you are.
"California Bans Plastic Straws in Restaurants, But Exempts Fast Food"
[...]
"In a signing message, Brown cited the general impact of plastics, and wrote, "we must find ways to reduce and eventually eliminate single-use plastic products." The fines for the straw ban are $25 per day after a few violations up to $300 per year."
http://fortune.com/2018/09/20/california
-bans-straws-except-fast-food/
I am proud to say that there is not one single person who now or ever held office in CA for whom I voted.
When Starchild gets elected, that'll change.
Brown had jolly well better not have signed with a plastic pen!
Why did they exempt fast food outlets, the biggest users of plastic straws?
"Why did they exempt fast food outlets, the biggest users of plastic straws?"
This is exactly the sort of question which prompted my foot-note: Don't ask me; I got nothing to do with those bone-heads.
Yes, treasonous! How dare they go against company policies? They should be terminated immediately! Find other work! There ought to be a... Human Resources department investigation! Why, those people should be dealt with swiftly! Throw the company's Ethics Rule Book at THEM!!!!!!!!!!!
Uh, we're not talking actual, Constitutionally-defined "treason" here, JP. The company can do whatever it wants. The users can also do whatever they want. DJT is not the State, no matter what he believes, or Trumpistas believe.
He's also not God, no matter what he believes. Or Trumpistas believe. Resisting a president's lousy policies is not treason.
Oh man, I knew it wouldn't last.
OM, does it matter what you do when you're resisting the president's policies? Say, trying to overturn the results of a legitimate election through bogus charges?
Can a company manipulate people with false information to swing elections?
oh damn, that's every company during every election
As long as they're a company on American soil.
By law, no they can't. In Google's case, this would probably run afoul of an 'in-kind' contribution which is codified in our current campaign finance laws.
In fact, it's not that they can't manipulate people with false information, they're not allowed to manipulate them with true information either.
Pols do. Why can't everybody else?
Google does Bowdlerize the News Archives, just as in Orwell's famous novel.
The group alleges that "neither Ms. Watkins nor Ms. Watkins' employers appear to have been made aware of the government's use of legal process to collect these records until long after the collection had begun."
Every president builds on the power the previous administrations collected. Trump was definitely going to be no different.
So ENB is horrified at the President's suggestion that sexual assault victims should contact law enforcement at the time of the crime and not 30-some years after the fact as a contrived part of some political freakshow?
Hey Brown...Ford lied and the incident never happened. You're a fool if you believe otherwise. Honest people make their accusations under oath, which Ford is refusing to do. Because she knows that once she gives any details under oath that can be debunked, she's open to a perjury charge.
Lizzie is a lying left-wing asshole, and as much as she despises men, like all lying left-wing assholes she doesn't really "believe all women" either. She doesnn't and never did believe Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, or any of Bill clinton's other accusers. She only believes liberal democrat women who accuse guys that she doesn't like. Par for the course.
It's okay man. There's still a chance she will get divorced and marry you.
She's never leaving that strange-looking beard, whoops, I mean "husband" of hers.
As legal marijuana markets continue to emerge, marijuana use is now as popular among older adults as it is among young adults and teenagers, according to a new national survey.
I know a few elderly people wondering about the benefits of marijuana use. These are the most reliable voting bloc in the world. How is marijuana not descheduled yet? At some point it will become a voter issue for them and that will overtake the prohibition lobby's influence.
I would be happy if elderly people could freely buy marijuana. But it would also be nice if I didn't have to indirectly pay for it.
Many elderly San Francisco couples came to The Haight to buy LSD and hemp in 1968.
It's really getting hard to know if Trump is just is a once in a generation idiot/savant type troll or the just greatest Andy Kaufman esq troll to ever live. In either case not knowing which has to lend credibility to the latter.
Kavanaugh drama takes soap-operatic turn. An influential conservative operative and friend of Judge Brett Kavanaugh's has put forth a novel theory about the sexual assault allegation that threatens to derail Kavanaugh's path to the Supreme Court.
Yeah because previously unknown characters showing up out of nowhere with allegations of sexual abuse are standard fare for sitcoms. Semi-secretive disclosure to a Senator but not the police, near complete amnesia about the whole event... it might as well be an episode of Friends or Seinfeld. But a case of mistaken identity? That's telenovella schlock!
Yep, that's right: Whelan just sacrificed some random dude who happened to be a classmate of Kavanaugh's at Georgetown Prep back in the '80s.
"Kavanaugh was guilty and we were going to put him under the guillotine until Whelan shoved some other guy in ahead of him! What a cad, amiright?"
Jesus Christ.
It's all about the cast of characters, not the dialogue.
I figure the Democrats' next move on the Kavanaugh vote is to bring in a psychic who claims she saw the whole thing in a vision.
Dark lady laughed and danced and lit the candles one by one
Danced to her gypsy music till her brew was done
Dark lady played back magic till the clock struck on the twelve
She told me more about me than I knew myself
Jordan B. Peterson, free speech warrior, exhibits A and B:
Come on, Eliz., he's exhibiting Helsinki, Finland syndrome because he's a political prisoner inCanada, where they force him to teach alternative psych in an icy gulag and pay him in CAD. {shudders} euugghh...
You didn't even mention what passes for "beer" up there... Fucking hats man... Can't trust em.
And milk bags. Ugh.
Hold the hearings on Monday, Ford can decide if she wants to show up or not.
Vote on Wednesday.
If we believe CBS (and I'm not suggesting we should), these are prof. Ford's demands:
"Ford will not appear any sooner than next Thursday;
"No questions to be asked at hearing by any outside counsel -- only by Senators;
"Mark Judge must be subpoenaed;
"Kavanaugh would testify first, then Ford would testify, and Kavanaugh would have no opportunity to respond or rebut;
"The Friday deadline for her to provide written statement before the hearing would be waived;
"Provide adequate security;
"Only one pool camera in hearing room;
"Ford and Kavanaugh allotted the same amount of time to talk."
What does she want in her dressing room?
Bowls of green m, only green!
M and M s
Since when do supposed "victims" get to demand the conditions of an investigation?
Constitutionally this is a status well beyond even "an investigation"; it's a Congressional investigation. They are indulging her enormously by even reading one of her "demands." They could technically get the U.S. Marshals to bust her door down and drag her ass in to be forced to answer whatever questions they feel like, whenever they feel like it. It's a good thing she never wrote any dirty song lyrics or she wouldn't be so mouthy!
We all know what's going on here.
McConnell and Grassley need to grow a pair and be the adults in the room; no special treatment, no demands will be entertained, show up on Monday to testify and be cross examined or don't, your choice.
The affairs of state don't get to be organized around Ford's social diary and the demands of partisan hack attorneys.
We know that legally they can order her to appear in the hearing room and submit to being questioned (subject to any legal privileges against certain questions).
Politically, the question is whether that can be successfully portrayed as "re-traumatizing a rape victim."
More specifically, the question is whether the committee will do anything which Collins or Flake deem disrespectful to her.
In practice I think this means they don't have the Marshals "escort" her to the hearing, but they don't delay the vote if she doesn't show up, either.
They ought to subpoena Mike Judge because this list of demands looks like something written by him.
Don't bring Mike Judge into this. He doesn't need to be a part of any of this sham.
That's not a "testimony". That's well-managed 'performance art'.
Mr. Scarborough has come up with the latest take. We are treating Christine Ford so shamefully differently from the priest abuse victims because the latter are boys.
He probably heard somebody say "I don't see how the Left could get any stupider about this" and he responded "Hold muh beer and watch this..."
Second thoughts:
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/
march-for-our-lives-founder-leaves-
group-regrets-trying-to-embarrass-rubio/
I wish that kid well. Sounds like he's starting to get a more complex understanding of the world. Hopefully he can do something good with his life.
That's... an astonishing amount of self-reflection, there.
I am surprised but not entirely so. Cam Kasky was always the only one of the Big Three who even remotely seemed like a serious kid. He is close friends with Lil'-Shapiro-in-training Kyle Kashuv and they retweet each other a lot. They actually didn't know each other before this but they made friends with each other over the shooting--especially impressive when you consider that apparently a huge bulk of his classmates, and of course certainly the local police authorities, are treating Kashuv like garbage these days. I figured Kasky could go one of two ways with respect to being a normal person, and it looks like we have the answer. He and Kashuv actually broke up publicly over Twitter in an exchange that made Kasky look very bad indeed, and I figured he'd finally gone, but it looks like they have long since made up. Kids and their drama!
I was impressed by Kashuv, who was mostly ignored by media 'cause he didn't have the "correct" viewpoint, from the start. A little later it became obvious why, there were 960 students in his year at school, when their grades came out he was first.
BUC and perichpr:
Totally agree, I listened to him being interviewd and was very, very impressed, I wasn't a 1/10 as articulate at that age, he's obviously a very bright kid.
I was too late to the Beto love fest article the other day, but y'all know there's a Libertarian running against the two of them right? It's a little weird that an ostensibly libertarian magazine doesn't even make passing mention to that fact.
Reason gave Beto a tongue bath?
That's because the Texas Libertarian, Neal Dikeman, throughly understands how libertarian spoiler votes force looter politicians to repeal bad laws or lose their seats and paychecks to other, less totalitarian, looter politicians. Reason has its advertisers and donors to think of, many of whom participate only as Trojan Horse infiltrators seeking handholds for sabotage. So we have Nick, the Pope's Patsy, the Anarchist who Doesn't Vote, and some others working in subtle ways to further the kleptocracy agenda while pretending to oppose it and support libertarian jurisprudence. Look at what happened to France. Vichy collaborators all pretended to be helping France before they were shorn and paraded past their fellow citizens on their way to judgment in 1945.
Between kavanaugh and "trade war" Reason has been getting pretty tiresome to read the last few weeks. Might be time to set up some filters on my RSS for a little bit to give me a break from this dead horse beating
means I'll miss the roundup every. fucking. day. but guess i won't really be missing it
my mute filter for reason, title: kavanaugh removed 46 fucking articles. 46!!!
I'm annoyed Jordan Peterson called google's actions "treasonous"... they're not. They are very likely a violation of black-letter campaign finance law.
"Christine Ford Slaps Down "
Why are you such a stupid partisan idiot? You're not a libertarian ENB, so what the fuck are you pretending for?
You didn't "slap" anything down you oh so empowered vagina, she just denied something.
By your stupid fucking logic, Kavanaugh slapped down the moronic accusations you have bought into whole heartedly.
An acquaintance who grew up in France (and is a certified prog here in USA) said he can't believe how puritanical the U.S. is, that a teenage boy could fondle a teenage girl 35 years ago, live an exemplary life since, and that said fondling is cause for professional misconduct and disgrace. He seems to think no male in France would have employment today if such standards applied there and elsewhere in Europe.
Age of consent in most of Europe is also younger, in some cases, much, much younger.
Which is why Roman Polanski is ze great artiste and not a felon.
Pretty much.
(Of course, Polanski was actually prosecuted and pled guilty shortly after the offense - the reason it's still an issue now is that he didn't show up when it came time to serve his prison term.)
"So tell me, Monsieur Le Pew, did you have her specific consent to chase her down and shower her with kisses?"
Obviously the many allegations against Democrats prove that this has nothing to do with the accusations and everything to do with the people involved.
" He seems to think no male in France would have employment today if such standards applied there and elsewhere in Europe."
Wait, so males in France do have employment today? Does being on strike count?
Still no discussion about Ford's yearbook?
Do tell. Everything should be investigated to the fullest.
What I've seen asserted is beyond belief. Like a teenage girl would watch Animal House and think, "So?".
I haven't verified the yearbook and, recalling my yearbook and HS years, there were certainly embellishment and baseless innuendo being written into the pages but still, it's makes his yearbook look tame and makes her story even harder to believe.
Did I miss it?
"Fahrenheit 11/9 is a 2018 American political documentary by filmmaker Michael Moore about the 2016 United States presidential election and the subsequent presidency of Donald Trump. The film had its world premiere on September 6, 2018 at the 2018 Toronto International Film Festival, and was released in the United States on September 21, 2018, by Briarcliff Entertainment. The film received mostly positive reviews, with critics saying it "[preaches] to a specific choir, but for anyone who's enjoyed Moore's filmography [it is] another worthy chapter."[3]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_11/9
Well, I WILL miss it.
Well, I WILL miss it.
I'll miss it, but I won't miss it.
I found the rotten tomatoes scores for that movie pretty telling. Critic scores: over 90%, audience scores: 50%
I'm sure most of the amateur critics didn't even see it, but it shows the biases of the professionals aren't very representative of the general public
.... Especially since it's not like there is any artistry in that type of movie. Critics act like there is art there even though they're essentially reviewing an op-ed piece with moving pictures.
Moore's left a trail of bodies behind him (as well as a slime trail).
He was hired by Mother Jones way back...they fired him after a few weeks.
The only interest Moore is interested in advancing, is his own.
The differences between the critics' and audiences' Tomatometers are becoming a source for popular amusement in and of themselves these days.
It's not so much that Michael Moore is biased, it's that he lies in his films.
If you flatter and fawn upon your potential audience, I might add, you are patronizing them and insulting them. By the same token, if I write an article and I quote somebody and for space reasons put in an ellipsis like this (?), I swear on my children that I am not leaving out anything that, if quoted in full, would alter the original meaning or its significance. Those who violate this pact with readers or viewers are to be despised. At no point does Michael Moore make the smallest effort to be objective. --Christopher Hitchens.
Yeah, you might tolerate an honest useful idiot, but like Tony and the Clintons, he seems incapable of honesty.
If honesty would serve, he (and they) would lie to keep in practice.
I will miss it like I miss my turds going down the toilet drain.
Oops...
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/
1043136672072908802
I was unaware that Dr. Ford knew Judge Kavanaugh and the other individual until I read this article. Absent this information, the idea that a woman who had been attacked would mis-identify her attacker is empirically supported by any number of cases (Timothy Cole and Steven Avery come to mind).
John Deere Just Swindled Farmers Out of Their Right to Repair
CA agencies fuck farmers over
Time to buy DE.
Journalism dies in darkness, from paraphrasing. Reason article: "She says that she knew both Kavanaugh and Garrett before the night in question, that she and Garrett had traveled in the same social circles, and that she had even visited Garrett when he had been hospitalized. "There is zero chance that I would confuse them," she said in a statement.".
What's been reported elsewhere:
Ford said she "knew them both, and socialized with" them, according to a Washington Post report published Thursday. Ford added that she visited the other classmate in a hospital.
"There is zero chance that I would confuse them," she said in a statement to The Post.
"The dumbest part about Whelan's theory is that it turns on Ford having remembered precisely how many people were at the gathering that night 36 years ago but not which one of them attempted to rape her."
The notes from Ford's therapist in 2012 say that Ford said there were four guys holding her down.
Has anyone seen a reasonable defense of the idea that people should be disqualified from public office today for what they did 35 years ago when they were minors?
enb: Ford knows how many people were there to the third decimal, so she must have the details right.
Reality:Ford has changed her story abouy how many people were holding her down.
The dumbest part of the article is hard to determine.
It's all pretty dumb
Has anyone asked Feinstein to detail her associations with Jim Jones?
I know she was close with him 35 years ago.
I saw her give him a drink recipe.
I'm serious though.
Feinstein, Willie Brown, Milk, Moonbeam. . . they were all neck deep in Jim Jones' People's Temple. Google it.
The entire Republican party is in the tank for the freakiest of Christian cults so throw the first stone why don't you.
Dianne Feinstein is the one who wants to throw the first stone about what happened 35 years ago.
You know, it's fascinating watching you people defend Trump-Republicans in this knee-jerk way without even a moment of self-reflection.
The drink was called the diane feinstein but she lobbied to have the name changed to jim jones.
Just so everyone stays frosty when it comes to rape accusations.
At least she made the charge promptly!
Now she needs to work on the "accurate" part.
The case has been closed for a while because there is zero evidence Maybe it was Big Foot who assaulted her.
She's a paid shill
Just vote
A useful rule for *future* nominations would be not to consider allegations unless they were made soon after the alleged offense. Exceptions would be murder//treason/genocide/starting a nuclear war and the like.
I'd like to see them use criteria like fidelity to the principles of Constitution, crazy shit like that.
It's not either/or.
By putting a deadline on when they can receive accusations, they'd have more time for constitutional fidelity, etc.
I thought surely Kavanaugh was not as potato-faced when he was a boy, but that is one nondescript man. And so is the evil twin guy. They don't feed them much corn on the east coast do they.
Funny how someone with no memory at all of some facts because she was drunk is crystal-clear on others. Especially those most convenient to help you complete the mission of smearing your target.
Maybe Ford is 100% right about everything. Who cares.
Report it in a timely manner or expect to have your political revelations treated politically.
"Neither Ford nor anyone else had named Garrett as someone who had been around on the night in question."
God damn it.
My 2 Hates Minutes Hate for Reason Woketarain propaganda fulfilled.
No one else *but* Ford can say anything about "the night in question", since no one but her recognizes a night containing the elements she claimed.
Of course they didn't name anyone else being at an event that they're saying they don't recognize as something that ever happened.
This is such bullshit spin.
The usual confirmation hearing faeces-flinging by congregants of both looter parties was an amusing sideshow--like the attacks on Clarence Thomas. But underlying the circus is the fact that the LP platform of 1972 stopped Dixiecrats from stripping women of individual rights when it became the Roe v Wade decision in the hands of the Supreme Court shortly after the election. Libertarians can benefit by deleting the moronic "good faith" plank giving aid and comfort to Republicans and alienating women voters. Gee-Oh-Pee fanatics have since 1976 polluted their every platform with demands for a Forced Labor Amendment to threaten physicians and bring back coathanger abortions. Bad enough that Republicans still force job seekers to piss in paper cups as part of their Comstock-era race suicide eugenics fads.
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To be fair, Whelan has as much evidence that Garrett raped Ford as Ford does that Kavanaugh raped her.
If Ford can make such a claim with zero evidence, why can't anybody else? Of course, she gets the benefit of being taken seriously with zero evidence and a Swiss cheese story.
Apparently, it is arbitrary but moral to believe her , and arbitrary but immoral to believe him.
Would it be OK to bring up her drinking and sexual history in high school when she testifies Thursday?