Gun Control Activists Target Newspaper for Advertising a Gun Show
The outrage at a Florida newspaper reveals a deep antipathy toward all forms of gun ownership.


The South Florida Sun-Sentinel, which has broken major stories about the incompetence and corruption of the Broward County Sheriff's Department, carried two mass shooting–related stories on its front page Wednesday. One was a piece remembering Parkland shooting victim Alyssa Alhadeff, whose fifteenth birthday would have been this week. The other was an article about Esteban Santiago pleading guilty to killing five people in the Fort Lauderdale airport in 2017.
At the bottom of the page was an advertisement for the Fort Lauderdale gun show. Instantly, outrage erupted.
Fred Guttenberg, the father of a student killed during the Parkland shooting, found the juxtaposition so jarring that he tweeted this: "Looks like the Sun Sentinel editor on this page failed. A story on the victims of gun violence and they put a gun coupon on the page. WTF!!!"
That same "WTF" made it into the headline of Politico's writeup of the supposed gaffe. The Miami New Times tut-tutted that "amid all of that stellar journalism, the paper's advertising staff continued taking money from gun sellers."
Many Twitter users were less charitable. "UNACCEPTABLE!! I'd boycott your paper if I took it!" tweeted one person. "They should NOT have accepted that front page ad placement for a gun show, when running two shooting stories on the front. How much were they paid for that? Is that worth more than human lives?" wrote another.
The Sun-Sentinel then did what many media companies would do: It immediately buckled under the criticism. The same day, the paper issued an apology from publisher Nancy Meyer, who also declared a temporary moratorium on gun-related ads. Guttenberg has said that he would like that moratorium to be made permanent, and Meyer says she's open to that.
These criticisms of the Sun Sentinel betray an all-too-common view among gun control activists that gun ownership itself is toxic and inseparable from mass shootings, and that any outward expression of gun culture only feeds this violence. To participate or promote one, they think, is encourage the other.
Unsurprisingly, gun owners don't see such a natural link. For them, guns are a normal part of their everyday lives, not alien items.
"Owning firearms is the manner in which this country evolved," says Jorge Fernandez of Florida Gun Shows, the company that took out the Sentinel ad. "You're talking about hundreds of years of culture. Persons who grew up hunting and fishing, target shooting, or collecting firearms."
Gun shows of the type his company puts on are just another event for enthusiasts. "We're a promotion company just like any other promotion company. You have your musician promoters, you have your classic car promoters, you have motorcycle promoters, beer and wine fests, all those types of promotions have their own draw."
Many gun control activists insist that they are OK with gun ownership in general and merely want a few a more restrictions added, a few more loopholes closed. Meanwhile, the State of California is currently considering a plan to divest its pension funds from retail chains that sell firearms, while the City of Los Angeles is holding up contracts with FedEx for offering discounts to NRA members. A bill has been introduced in the same state to forbid gun raffles. And in Florida, activists are throwing a fit about an event geared toward normal, noncriminal gun owners.
You can call for "moderate," "nonpartisan," "common-sense" gun legislation that you think gun owners might get behind, or you can attack any outward use or sale of firearms as an outrage. It is incoherent to try to do both at once.
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Guttenberg has said that he would like that moratorium to be made permanent, and Meyer says she's open to that.
It's good to see newspapers making such a turnaround that they have an abundance of ad revenue and can turn some away.
Guttenberg, eh? Well, that's not ironic at all.
I know, right? Cocoon is almost too on the nose for this situation.
You don't see any gun show ads in anything the original Guttenberg printed, do you? Well there you go.
Gun rights activists need to realize that these witch hunts aren't against them, but actually autistic kids. The only solution is to expose autism 'treatment', which teaches these kids 'tricks' to appear normal, which of course really just turns them into mass shooters. Otherwise we will just keep going around in these endless circles of outrage. (Similarly, pain patients, who are victims of the 'addiction' hysteria, must infiltrate 12 Step groups if they are ever to stop the madness.)
Gun rights people should befriend autistic groups (and homeschool groups). It would be epic!
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If that's a joke, it's not funny.
If it's not a joke, that's pathetic. You know nothing of Austism and need to sit down and shut up before you embarass yourself even more.
You might correct, but right now I'd bet with odds, that you just made a very poor assumption as the only fact you seem to have to support this assertion is that you find the comment offensive.
Disclaimer: I'm not agreeing no disagreeing with original post, nor am i claiming it is or isn't offensive. And finally, I'm making no claims as to the original coomenter's knowledge about Autuism. My comment therefore is limited only to whether your assertion was presumptive or not.
He has made very similar and fact free comments multiple times. Whenever they run an article on mass shootings. He has been corrected multiple times yet continues with this nonsense.
No I find comments made based on stupidity offensive. There is only one fact that needs to be pointed out to show the parkland shooting had nothing to do with autism. Cruz was taking anti-psychotic medications. Psychotropic medications are used to address symptoms of delusions, paranoia, hallucinations and other psychotic features. NONE of these issues relates to autism. Autism is a developmental disorder. If impacts a person's social functioning, not their connection with reality. Before you say it, I know this correct because I have been in the field for over 20 years and worked with kids and adults who have autism as well as those who have serious, mental health issues. The difference between the two is night and day. Sadly, it is those with mental health issues who usually fall through the cracks because their treatment can run into the hundreds of thousands annually. When working in Dallas County we had 6 people taking the drug Clozoril for schizophrenia. The cast of the medication for those 6 people was over $1,000,000 (MILLION) each year. When someone who has no insurance or resources is put on medication this expensive, how long do you think it is before they are suddenly dropped from the system?
It has nothing to do with autism.
It might, however, have to do with anti-psychotic medications and more specifically the period of time when someone that is on anti-psychotics but are switching to a new medication.
It is known that during that period of time that psychotic breaks can happen. And, notably, this is the first era of Human history where children are by-and-large medicated and at least some small percentage of them are on anti-psychotics.
This has to be without a doubt the most idiotic and uninformed comment I have every read anywhere. You are blaming autism for mass shootings? This only proves you know nothing about the disorder. Cruz had mental health issues. A diagnosis of autism had nothing to do with his actions. As for the "tricks" you refer to, again it only demonstrates your stupidity. Autism is a SPECTRUM not a single diagnosis. There are many people who have autistic traits who are as you put it normal. If you are the example of normal, I would hope I am not because you are a complete moron. Do us all a favor and throw your keyboard in the trash and spare us your insight on any subjects in the future.
It looks like the one thing everyone can take away from the repeated coverage of this outrage is that there's a gun show at the Ft. Lauderdale War Memorial Auditorium May 5 & 6.
Yeah, but how much is parking gonna cost me?
Guns?
At a war memorial?
Sadly I'll bet the traversing mechanisms have all been welded.
How dare student activists try to keep me from selling nuclear weapons with no background checks. I thought this was America.
Yeah, that's exactly what's happening, you tiresome fucktard. Bet you hate the 1A as much as the 2A, dontcha, dipshit?
No need for name calling, madam.
To be fair, your statement was profoundly stupid
You misspelled "sarcastic".
This was a weird thread.
I have a knack.
I got it Sage. Sadly, it's hard to parody leftists as their idiocy knows no bounds.
See: Poe's Law.
No, we got the sarcasm. It was still profoundly stupid.
Sometimes there is. Like in response to your feeble attempt at sarcasm.
I wasn't aware that there would be nuclear weapons for sale at this gun show. An enterprising individual could probably buy up their wares and get a good start on an international arms business.
Not only nuclear weapons, but full semi auto nukes with bump stocks. Buying in bulk gets you a discount.
Forget starting an international arms race. I'm going to carve out my own country.
Dang! Personally I'm hoping to buy an Ohio class nuclear sub fully armed with ballistic missiles! / SARC
I don't know if your intent was to be sarcastic, but if not what a stupid trope; no one is talking about nuclear weapons, or fighter jets or bombers, or artillery or tanks; it concerns guns, and such idiotic statements contribute nothing but feckless palaver.
The problem is that we can't tell who you are mocking, Sage. Are you mocking the pro-gun lobby for wanting unrestricted firepower, or mocking people who treat guns as Satan incarnate?
Yes?
The problem is that we can't tell who you are mocking, Sage. Are you mocking the pro-gun lobby for wanting unrestricted firepower, or mocking people who treat guns as Satan incarnate?
First of all, get the money to buy one, and they we can talk...
(For any idiot government employee who reads this, this is a RHETORICAL device, and I have neither the desire nor the money to purchase or use a nuclear weapon. Also, woodchipper.)
These criticisms of the Sun Sentinel betray an all-too-common view among gun control activists that gun ownership itself is toxic and inseparable from mass shootings, and that any outward expression of gun culture only feeds this violence. To participate or promote one, they think, is encourage the other.
Yeah, opponents of gun culture want to take away all guns. A few years ago, UK activists complained about "lad culture". The term changed to "rape culture" and crossed the pond. If you have a "gun", you should buy a gun.
Correct.
Dem. Congressman Eric Swalwell: Ban "assault weapons", buy them back, go after resisters
Obviously, that just shows how racist the 2A is! If all guns had been banned, then Dreshawn Lee couldn't have killed Jackson. It was the easy availability of guns that condemned Lee to a life in jail. That's why the white male gun toting patriarchy is evil! /sarc
Trump campaigned on starting new witch hunts and wars against immigrants, muslims, blacks, drug users and women. However these groups allied with each other to thwart him at every turn. So now the country's attention turned to the only vulnerable group left: gun owners. Of course, this will be quickly quashed as well. Gun rights are simply too precious to Americans and we will awaken from this hysteria. And then the only issue left will be abortion - Roe v Wade will be overturned by the Supreme Court. But after that, it's the promised land, baby. (Or A Handmaid's Tale, your choice.)
No one wants to ban or confiscate guns. Ever! It's a crazy and paranoid idea!
Survey: Majority of Democrats want to ban semi-automatics, half want to ban all guns
Thank you for that information.
I note that the picture of the gun is a pistol. Are pistols now back in the sights of gun ban advocates? I thought it was just "assault" weapons? And what does a pistol have to do with the Parkland shooting.
The knee's not jerking anymore, it's a never ending spasm.
All firearms are always in their sights. If they ever get a ban on the things they say they want, they'll immediately move the goalposts and clamor for a ban on black-powder weapons too.
No one wants to ban or confiscate guns. Ever! It's a crazy and paranoid idea!
Ceasefire Oregon, NRA agree assault weapons ban would bar nearly all semi-automatic sales
Honestly, seeing the UK freak out on knives has made it impossible for anyone to really defend the idea of "common sense" weapons control/legislation.
Honestly, seeing the UK freak out on knives has made it impossible for anyone to really defend the idea of "common sense" weapons control/legislation.
Let's be clear. The action on knives was intentional. The freak out was on shears, screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, flashlights, t-ball bats, etc.
They don't want to ban and seize guns they want to ban and seize everything down to and including pool cues, table-legs, and wiffle ball bats.
this is true and its why Karate and other Asian fighting methods were created because their leaders denied them self defensive weapons so they learned how to use common farm tools for self defense. I am not skilled at physical self defense so I will keep my guns for that purpose..
Knives? That nation of crazed psychopaths and depraved football hooligans cannot even be trusted with glass nor bottles .. and you would give them cutlery?
I'd give them nothing. No cutlery, no cups or bottles. Basically all tools are a combination of bad for the environment / able to be used as weapons, therefore the only answer is to ban them all. And fire, it's dangerous and bad for the environment, so that has to go too. Which means no cooking. They can starve.
Or newspaper. Can't forget to ban the newspaper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_brick
Parliament is still hot over that thing that happened back at the end of the Eighteenth Century.
No one wants to ban or confiscate guns. Ever! It's a crazy and paranoid idea!
Democrat Candidate for Sheriff Daryl Fisher Suggests Killing People to Take Their Guns - and audience applauds
It's worked for drugs, why wouldn't it work for guns?
"I promise that, if you elect me, my Sheriff Department will be completely gun-free. Even my personal firearms, and those of my deputies, will be destroyed."
I'm gonna need to see proof that that isn't, in fact, Jordan Peele.
Yes, pistols are back on the ban list.
Survey: Majority of Democrats want to ban semi-automatics, half want to ban all guns
The amazing thing about leftist authoritarians (but I repeat myself) is that they always manage a two-fer attack when trying to abrogate the 2A by also attacking the 1A.
Great job, guys! Did you know? :
"A group of Johns Hopkins University researchers released a report Tuesday indicating that the late Soviet Union leader Joseph Stalin was only one great purge away from creating a communist utopia. "Our research demonstrates that if Stalin had shipped a mere 100,000 more people to Siberia, the whole communist experiment would have worked out perfectly," said historian and report co-author Franklin Morrison, adding that all of the USSR's corruption, hunger, and disease would have disappeared overnight if Stalin had simply been able to let a few million more Ukrainians starve to death. "
That HAS to be from the onion. Please tell me that is a spoof!
It is from the onion.
It is often difficult to tell now, the difference between something from The Onion and an actual news headline. Poe Horizon; are we there yet?
The Onion has it's share of nutjobs, but I gotta admit they are one of the best satire outlets around and even though they might have their bias, they tend to skewer everyone sooner or later so I tend to forgive them.
Yep, it's from The Onion, but you can't trust what's in The Onion to be a spoof anymore.
Tomorrow's headlines today!
The Johns Hopkins quote is from an Onion article. Unfortunately, it is now very difficult to distinguish between satire and the real antics of progressives. For example, I am pretty sure that the above citations of Democrat opinion on blanket gun bans is real. I'm also pretty sure that the brouhaha regarding the propriety of a white teenage girl wearing a Chinese-style dress is real. (OT: My son is fluent in Mandarin and tells me that the Chinese message boards are full of ridicule for SJW condemnation of such cultural appropriation. Chinese kids who follow US news have even coined their own epithet, baizuo, for SJWs and other white progressive elites.)
Agreed, have [as I commented above] often thought the same as "real" life increasingly imitates parody. I am anticipating the SJW nonsense approaching its logical denouement.
Based upon my own experiences travelling in China, and hosting a Taiwanese student, they think we are ALL idiots. It's only a question of first or second order.
It worked. They now have a Reason writer calling rights-hating Kristallnachtzis "Gun Control Activists."
Fred Guttenberg
Obviously no relation to Johannes, father of the free press.
I'm pretty sure Johannes Guttenberg charged money for his printing presses. 🙂
It's effective "motte and bailey" public relations. Propose banning and confiscating nearly all semi-autos and "weapons oif war". Insist the 2A only protects the "right" of state governments or flintlock ownership. Then say "no one wants to take your guns away".
NRA: "gun grabbers want to ban almost all commonly owned firearms"
Media: FACT CHECK: "Gun safety advocates insist they don't want to take anyone's guns away"
No one wants to ban or confiscate guns. Ever! It's a crazy and paranoid idea!
Hawaii, Which Registers Guns and Medical Marijuana Users, Starts Disarming Patients
Those Reefer Madness guys shouldn't have guns - God help anyone who gets between them and their nachos!
The term "gun safety advocate" is even misleading.
Well, to be fair.. that's the guy who recommends you unload your firearm before cleaning it. Sound advice, actually..
"Both sides" he whimpered as he was led toward the reeducation camp. "Sure, I'm being punished for a thought crime, but the other side once had Milo speak at a campus. I mean that's just indefensible." His fellow inmates were not gracious toward him. "Are they booing me?" He asked us. "Well, screw them. They're all Nazis, anyways. Why else would they be in a reeducation camp?" He didn't seem to grasp the irony of his statement. Perhaps his greatest humiliation was when the guards took his long beloved leather jacket and handed him his orange jumpsuit. As the jacket was peeled away from his body a visible tear slowly slid down his cheek. "Both sides" he said again as he fought back tears.
What was his crime? Attempted "hecklers' veto"?
You can't possibly be ignorant enough to not know that the heckler's veto is not constitutionally protected.
Well then he can send all the booers to 'double secret re-education' camp.
"""What was his crime? Attempted "hecklers' veto"?""
Collusion?
Well said.
Although the entire pretext is absurd.
Gillespie will never be sent for 're-education.' He will always knuckle under.
This is going to devolve to woodchippers and helicopters. Just you watch.
It certainly seems like it'll be the right's pinochet, or the left's stalin, so choose one.
Red States of America and Blue States of something else. Peoples Republic and Indian Country, Kurt Schlichter. I am coming to believe it.
"I'd boycott your paper if I took it!" should be Twitter's new motto.
This was indeed an epic fail on the part of the editor at the newspaper. They should have used a different layout.
The rest is just opportunistic trolling.
It could have been a great opportunity for the gun show. Run a full page ad to the effect of: "Out of respect for the victims of the Parkland shooting, we will offer free admission -- and a 20% discount on purchases -- to members of their families."
Speaking of editorial fails
"Alyssa Alhadeff, who's fifteenth birthday would have been this week"
You meant "whose".
You wouldn't say Alyssase instead of Alyssa's, would you?
You probably expect Britches to know how to read an analogue clock too.
That requires a small bit of thinking. So it's a bridge too far.
Does this story stink like a rotting corpse full of old cheese to anyone else?
I find it barely believable that a local paper of any consequence runs ads on the front page like that. On top of that barely believable ad on the front page, I find it hard to believe an editor who isn't a waste of human flesh is so out-of-touch with their readership (Twitter-rage aside) as to do something like this. On top of *that* I find it hard to believe a gun show promoter would pay knowingly pay for a front page slot right below two not-exactly-timely-or-front-page stories like this.
It seems much more likely that somebody involved is gaslighting the fuck out of things in order to enrage the readership into taking a course of action that they wanted to take anyway.
My guess is the promoter had no idea their paid placement (front page ads are a thing) would land below those stories or probably would not have wanted it. Gun shows in Florida are not popular right now. This very one is already having its permit to War Memorial Auditorium (let that sink in) revoked. Regarding the paper, your hypothesis is a worthy one. I can absolutely imagine the editors doing that.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice." -- Heinlein's Razor
Note, re: "not popular" I assume the appropriate qualifications can be read in. Obviously they are popular with those who attend.
It's a shitty little South Florida rag of no consequence. The kind of newspaper that just sits there in a bag baking in the sun for a week before it finally gets scraped off the driveway and chucked.
We have a few around here. *tilts nose up in order to look down it* They don't run banner ads on the front page like that.
Yeah, I see most of the people arguing for gun control the same way I see most of the people arguing against global warming.
For most people, their opposition to global warming has nothing to do with the science. It's all about being opposed to the authoritarian and socialist solutions on offer. Because they don't want to be subjected to authoritarian and socialist solutions, they end up arguing about the science--when the science has little or nothing to do with their opposition.
They don't argue against string theory the same way because no one is using string theory to justify using the coercive power of govenrment to force them to sacrifice their standard of living for polar bears and future generations.
It's the same thing with gun control--only more so. Their support for gun control doesn't have anything to do with facts, statistics, logic, the effectiveness or even relevance of their solutions, etc. They simply don't want there to be any guns in the world because they don't want there to be any shootings. They prefer security to freedom, and they believe there's a trade off between them.
The way to win people over to the cause of global warming is through persuasion--but you'll never persuade them to make sacrifices willingly so long as you're also advocating authoritarian socialism as a solution. It's the authoritarian socialism that renders persuasion ineffective. We won't win the gun control people over by arguing with their statistics or logic either--because that is not the crux of their opposition to gun rights. We need to persuade them to prefer freedom to security and that whatever trade offs there are between them, it isn't a zero-sum game.
Then we'll start to make more progress.
What global warming? Unvarnished temperature records graph as a trendline with negative slope--a cooling trend this past century.
It's encouraging to see people pushing back against gun fetishists.
#GunSense
#NeverAgain
Is it the fetishism you oppose or the shootings?
Or maybe it's the people you don't like.
Do you hate people with other hobbies, or is there something special about this bunch?
Is it the camo or seeing rednecks wearing fanny packs?
Gun fetishism never hurt a fly.
I don't know about OBL, but as far as hobbies go, I hate LARPers. They and their stupid hobby should be illegal.
I hate trolls and parody commenters.
Very much like hate speech, the comments of trolls and parody commenters are not covered by the First Amendment. Such comments are calculated to trigger snowflakes, so they are violence rather than protected expression. Obviously, this activity should be illegal and trolls and parody commenters should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. To be sure, I usually oppose the death penalty, but you got to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
Did you know that a black hole of collapsed sarcasm is the source of all irony in the universe?
It's science.
#PimpinAintEasyButItsNecessary
Next up: Puritans and busybodies urging newspapers to stop reviewing/accepting ads for violent movies, and sexy movies, etc. which promote human trafficking.
Well that's different for reasons
"UNACCEPTABLE!! I'd boycott your paper if I took it!" tweeted one person"
So you're saying they should do what you want, even when you admit you aren't a customer.
"You're welcome."
/The Internet
I had an eruption just this morning.
You're welcome.
The Gun Control arm of the Establishment Left abandned any semblence of honesty or logic decades ago. They can't argue the law because the Bill of Rights is against them. They can't argue statistics because the statistics are against them. They can't make arguments by anecdote because the self-defense anecdotes would bury them. The authorities they would appeal to are transparently incompetent and corrupt.
Basically, all they have left is pounding on the table.
And intimidation. Which is what this was - a total setup designed to send a message to other publications.
All they have is a bully campaign against the NRA.
Reminds me of a former well known large nation's leader pounding his shoe on the table at a United Nations General Session meeting....
And, in other news.. Free use of private property causes untold misery and suffering for the unwashed masses.. The government should do something!
Not outrageous--ads for liquor stores, whose sales cause 2.5 times the number of deaths caused by firearms.
Hey no fair; we've already been down THAT road and nobody wants to talk about it.
The tyranny of the mob in all its macabre glory.
Are we not supposed to have something, envisioned by some wise guys a couple hundred years ago, to protect us from that?
Yes.. the "firearm"..
Considering the sad state of the newspaper biz, I can't imagine any newspaper turning down a fully paid, two-color quarter page advertisement for anything short of child porn. In addition to newspaper ads, there are radio ads and billboards alongside Florida Interstates promoting that same gun show.
If you don't give up your guns to curb violence, you'll be shot.
On a serious note, mass killers no doubt suffer from many ailments. But most share two traits: dad-deprivation and a "purpose void." That's the finding by Warren Farrell's stunning new book "The Boy Crisis."
If taken to heart by thousands, "The Boy Crisis" has the potential to literally transform society.
Search for it at Amazon, etc, and read the free sample pages.
Excerpts:
"School shootings are homicides that are also suicides?even if the boy doesn't end his own life literally, for all practical purposes, his life is still ended."
"at the height of the Depression, 154 men committed suicide for each 100 women. Yet by 2015, in good economic times, boys and men were committing suicide three and a half times more often than women."
"This detachment creates what I call the "gender empathy gap": caring less about a boy dying than a girl. So much so that it would not even occur to a reporter to do the research that would uncover that the police are twenty-four times more likely to shoot someone male than someone female."
You'd have to line your cat litter boxes with something else!
That's pretty much what print papers are used for these days.
The exact same thing happened in 1938 when altruistic Christian National Socialists passed commonsense gun legislation to keep firearms out of the hands of of folks they deemed innately selfish and unconcerned with the common good. The newspaper is simply putting on a show of altruism and giving the sanction of the victim. Looters like that sort of thing almost as much as military parades.
Well, some people have learned [or been taught] to hate America, and this trifecta of an insult shows the enemy within is a greater danger than any arab ever hoped to be. It attacks guns, free speech [about guns in this case], and last but not least... commerce. We are supposed to grant criminal status to people advertising legal activities? No, I'm will just stick to calling the boycott crowd feckin loons. I marvel at how people can hate, yet refuse to leave the country. It's only a short step for them to begin using their dining room table as a bathroom seems to me. They should boycott breathing, on account of its the same air normal americans [gun owners] use: take a deep breath and count backwards from 5,000 and see what happens.
As for me...I don't go to gun shows, because it just doesn't interest me. But others love it, and to each his own.
EEdjits can't seem to understand that it ain't the gun, its the one holding it.
Same with cars... we've all seen lately that individuals have taken common vehicles, of the sorts used used and seen on our roads daily, many of them not even owned by their perverted users, to kill and maim innocents. SO. shall we impose background checks, fingerprinting, waiting periods, secial Mother May I Cards, to be able to use these lethal hunks of iron and steel in pubic? Would any of those mindless Floridians, all knicker-be-knotted, come unglued if there were photos from a bad highway crash scene where people died, and a used car lot advert, on the same page? And yet, highway deaths outnumber gun inflicted deaths by at least a factor of two. High school age kids are several times more likely to die because of a car being misused (often in conjunction with a phone, their constant companion everywhere) than in a mass school shooting.
And NONE are admitting that 98% of mass public shootings take place in a Certified Defenseless Victim Zone, so mandated by federal law, and of those ALL have been perpetrated by individuals who were taking, or had recently stopped taking, psychoactive mood altering, antidepressant, SSRI, and similar drugs.
Yet the mindless kneejerk dweebs focus on the hardware? It is NEVER a hardware issue, its ALWAYS the software controlling it.
I found in a local newspaper here a car advertisement on the very same page the news broke of that couple drove their kids off a cliff.
I was incensed, I tell you.
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