New York Officials Weaponize Regulatory Power Against the NRA
In a politicized environment, getting on the wrong side of regulators can be dangerous. Don't be surprised if banks and insurers cave.

Do you need another demonstration of how dangerous regulatory power can be when it's weaponized by politicians? Look no further than New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo's recent directive to financial regulators. Cuomo wants them to pressure private companies to break ties with the National Rifle Association (NRA). The "or else" is just a hair from being overt.
"I am directing the Department of Financial Services to urge insurers and bankers statewide to determine whether any relationship they may have with the NRA or similar organizations sends the wrong message to their clients and their communities who often look to them for guidance and support," the governor wrote in a statement.
The Department of Financial Services, which regulates the banking and insurance industries in New York, followed up with guidance letters to insurance companies and banks.
The two letters caution recipients that "[t]hey are in the business of managing risks, including their own reputational risks, by making risk management decisions on a regular basis regarding if and how they will do business with certain sectors or entities." The guidance then includes slight variations on the following language from the banking letter:
The Department encourages its chartered and licensed financial institutions to continue evaluating and managing their risks, including reputational risks, that may arise from their dealings with the NRA or similar gun promotion organizations, if any, as well as continued assessment of compliance with their own codes of social responsibility. The Department encourages regulated institutions to review any relationships they have with the NRA or similar gun promotion organizations, and to take prompt actions to managing these risks and promote public health and safety.
Keep in mind that the regulatory body that oversees these industries is warning companies under its power that they may be assuming reputational risk—a regulated area that draws official attention—by doing business with legal organizations including the NRA. This reputational risk is said to exist because these groups are "gun promotion organizations," which boils down to nothing more than them taking a public policy positions at odds with those favored by the state's political leaders.
Of course, this isn't the first time that a government body has been weaponized for political use. "My father may have been the originator of the concept of employing the IRS as a weapon of political retribution," Elliott Roosevelt observed of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The federal tax agency remained a handy bludgeon for politicians from that day through the present, including its recent deployment against Tea Party groups.
Usually, such abuses are at least thinly veiled, because they're widely acknowledged to be wrong. But this isn't really the case in places like New York, where everything is politicized and much business requires an "expediter, an imprecise term that is used to describe the men and women whose workdays are spent queuing up at the Manhattan branch of the New York City Department of Buildings to file the documents and pull the permits that allow construction projects—your kitchen renovation and the high-rise next door—to go forward," as the New York Times put it in 2014. Expediters often bribe officials to speed up the process—or to just get anything done. Attorney John Chambers, who expedites gun permits in New York City, was recently convicted of bribing an NYPD sergeant.
This is the business and political culture in which Donald Trump grew up and which molded his Rodney Dangerfield-in-Back to School view of the world. But with the money they wielded, Trump and company used a higher level of middlemen, including mayors, such as Abe Beame, and governors, such as Hugh Carey, to get permission for their projects and to block competitors.
Not much has changed since then, as business hopefuls continue delivering bribes to current Mayor Bill de Blasio and Governor Cuomo in hopes of getting their projects green-lighted (the officials themselves remain seemingly immune to prosecution for receiving bribes—probably because they make the laws). In such an environment, it's natural that officials see granting or withholding permission to do pretty much anything as a natural perk of the job. And what's more natural than for them to make continued permission to do business conditional on isolating political enemies?
As Brian Doherty noted the other day, Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams and New York City Councilmember Justin Brannan seemed astonished that anybody thought it inappropriate that they lean on local businesses to deny venues to Brooklyn Friends of the NRA. At least one restaurant canceled a gathering for the group "after federal, state and city politicians blasted the event as 'profoundly disappointing,'" reported the New York Daily News.
Of course they canceled. Brookyn restaurants are businesses that get to keep their doors open only with the goodwill of local officials. In such a politicized environment, getting on the wrong side of regulators can be dangerous.
Don't be surprised if banks and insurers also cave.
Weaponizing regulatory power—if normalized—opens the door for Cuomo's political opponents to do the same to his allies in the places where they govern. If liberals demonize the NRA, the equivalent bogeyman for their enemies is Planned Parenthood, which is vulnerable if conservative regulators adopt the same tactics. Actually, anybody who takes a controversial position on matters of public policy is at risk if the targeting of opponents through regulatory agencies becomes standard.
Yes, it's been done before, but making it explicit strips regulatory authority of any legitimacy. Punishing political opponents is a less compelling argument for such power than claims—valid or otherwise—that you're enforcing good business practices. If it becomes standard practice, people are entitled to view regulators as nothing more than partisan hitmen, and treat them accordingly.
New York's long-established culture of corrupt and weaponized use of government power is a stain on the state, not something to be made official policy and extended to the country as an example to emulate.
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It will backfire. It always does. I can guess some of the backlash -- all conservatives, and a fair number of honest liberals, will be disgusted at such blatant abuse. It will also legitimize the practice and convince conservative politicians to pressure liberal causes, as happened with Delta Airlines and Georgia.
There's also an economic aspect. Forced bias favors inefficient corrupt businesses, and honest businesses reap the reward of efficiency. Pension plans which divest for political reasons leave openings for savvy investors who are only interested in making money. Banks which turn down business opportunities because of political pressure will leave opportunities for other smarter investors. It won't be a noticeable difference at first, but that will just embolden the corrupt politicians and the practice will expand until there is a very noticeable difference. I'm sure Chicago's corruption started small, but they are drowning in debt now.
It's infuriating now, but payback's a bitch. When there houses come crashing down, I will be there laughing and enjoying the spectacle.
New York is corrupt to the core and always has been. It's the kind of world the New Yorkers want. Everyone thinks that they have a piece of the action and to protect that piece they will do anything and endure anything. Screw'em, they are getting exactly what they deserve.
Well, 50% + 1 out of voting New Yorkers.
The NRA is doing nothing wrong. The government of New York is.
The NRA is taking donations from its members and supporters and providing shooting range support, information for state variances of gun laws, and legal support to protect the 2nd Amendment.
The State of NY is trying to use corruption methods, via threats to its regulated banks, to violate the 2nd Amendment.
NY is the problem here, not the NRA.
I agree with you on this matter, but of course personal preferences will outweigh jurisprudence, being that this is all "for a good cause" and naturally it is "for the children." Which is why is invariably takes a law suit when a crack weasel like Cuomo plays his political games.
Who would dare take the case?
There are plenty of lawyers who would take the case. The real challenge is finding a plaintiff with standing who is willing to do it...
That is indeed the question. Perhaps some group like ACLJ might launch against the Cuomo cabal, but whoever turns up needs deep pockets. But truthfully, Cuomo wouldn't be acting up against the people like this if he didn't have fellow travelers roaming the Southern District giving him aid and comfort. A lawsuit has to be aimed squarely at the supreme court, and actions prior to arrival will be a mix of foundation and kabuki theatre [the latter being run by the state].
297 Sioux Indians were slaughtered by the Us Army at Wounded Knee, which had come to seize their arms 'for their own safety and protection."
Don't forget that New York is using the force of the State to shut down speech of disfavored groups, so it's shitty on both 1st and 2nd amendment grounds. It's an attempt at prior restraint, and I suspect that's why they're being so roundabout in this effort. They know for a fact it's against the law, so it's phrased as a 'suggestion' while carrying a baseball bat.
Nice little organization ya got there. Be a shame if anything wuz to happen to it.
And the imbecilic, myopic progtards like Tony will say "SO? I hate the NRA! Good!", never realizing that these same regulatory shackles and fetters to freedom could so easily be applied to them.
"But the state would never have a problem with anything I say or do! I'm on their side!"
Yes, Mr Beria, you are.... yes, you are.
"But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself.
He loved Big Brother."
Boom! Right, Tony, you fucking statist fucktard?
Tony isn't even going to wake up on the futon in his mom's basement for another couple hours.
Tony is still alive and around? Damn!
The state never hates on their prostitutes, until they're no longer useful.
As time passes, progressives who fail to keep progressing become conservatives, and thus, for their moral failure, become appropriate targets. There's no injustice in that.
Carry on, clingers.
The only one I've ever noticed to 'cling' in this forum is you, rev. Its as if you think if you post stupid shit often enough, it will make it true from the sheer force of clingyness alone.
So keep clinging in a bunch of forums that where everyone understands that you're a laughing stock. It doesn't make your broken thoughts any more valid, but it does make you someone who's wasting his life thinking he's bringing harm to those he hates, as if that were a virtue.
"progressives who fail to keep progressing"
To what do you think you are progressing? The only thing so-called "progressives" have to offer is the same thing that's been on offer for ten thousand years of civilization: serfdom. Just 250 years ago, Anglo-Saxons finally broke away from that ancient ideology for civilization, finally realizing individual liberty and property rights for all. So-called "progressives" want a return to serfdom, where politicians control everything, while the people get to live on whatever politicians decide we can have.
I'm sure there's some wit and wisdom buried somewhere in those 28 words, but it's early and so I'm damned if I can figure out what it is, much less why I should devote any more energy to figuring it out.
Words from a prophet of the new "master race."
President of Wells Fargo is on record as saying they won't go after gun ownership on the grounds that most Americans don't want Wall Street banks telling them what they can or can't buy.
If a bank stops allowing donations to Planned Parenthood with their credit cards, I wonder how many seconds it would be before a judge makes them allow them again.
Nice little lobby ya have there, 2A, be a shame if annythin' wuz ta happen to it...
most Americans don't want Wall Street banks telling them what they can or can't buy.
Politically true.
He's also considering that there are a whole lot of gun owners, who tend to be passionate about gun rights, who have effective means of communication, and almost all of whom have bank accounts, mortgages, and so forth.
most Americans don't want Wall Street banks telling them what they can or can't buy.
Except maybe for bitcoin
or legal marajuana
or legal gambling
so why not guns? It's only a constitution, not a real law or anything.
In much of the rural west, small towns consist of a post office, an Ace hardware store and a Wells Fargo bank.
Wells Fargo knows what side their bread is buttered on.
... and what the guy sitting next to the team driver on the front of the stagecoach was called, too...
I hope.
Cuomo is a communist ass clown
Cuomo, go fuck your self.
Well said Rock.
Isn't there talk of him running for the Dem nomination in 2020? Do the Dems want 4 more years of Trump? Because that's how you get 4 more years of Trump.
Democrats are desperate for somebody, anybody, with even one iota of charisma or personality but all they keep coming up with are billionaire and millionaire people that mutter the right words about diversity and stuff yet consistently vote to line their own pockets while ordering their underlings to blow holes in all the minorities in their strongholds.
They're going to go out and find a black woman, possibly in Congress, that's a back bencher and will do whatever the party wants. This person will have virtually no background or voting record, and you can bet they'll rely on opposition to Trump to attempt to get elected.
My two cents. It's what I would do if I were them and had no morals or scruples, but I repeat myself.
Give Hilly some Crack. . . That would give her a smidgen of personality.
That might slow her down. My understanding is she's vodka powered, which means crack would do for her what ritalin does for the truly ADD. I wouldn't mind seeing her do the quaalude shuffle on tv, come to think of it...
Assuming Oprah doesn't want the cut in pay, look out for Kamala Harris.
You are WAY too kind.
How does this not run afoul of Dormant Commerce Clause jurisprudence?
Because technically they only have jurisdiction over entities which have consented to their laws by choosing to do business in their state. They have no jurisdiction over, for example, First California Bank as long as 1st CA does no business in NY.
Now, I could argue that their legal theory is no longer valid under (Gonzales v. Raich, I think?) which determined that even a minuscule amount of marijuana grown, sold and used only within a state was nonetheless sufficient to affect interstate commerce and to uphold a federal law against it. If such a purely intrastate transaction affects interstate commerce, then the NY regulations do so as well - and the Dormant Commerce clause should kick in. I would rather not make that argument, however, because I think that case was wrongly decided. Thomas in his dissent had the far better argument.
I think you're referring to the Perez case. Perez was founded on one of the most fascistic decisions of the FDR era, Wickard v. Filburn (1942) which argued that, by growing wheat on his own farm for consumption by his own animals, Filburn affected adversely the price of wheat in interstate commerce by NOT buying wheat in the local markets. As Justice Thomas pointed out in Perez, it is difficult to imagine any activity that would not come under federal commerce jurisdiction to the extent Wickard remains good law.
The Commerce Clause says what the Court says it says, and its reach is as far as the Court says it is. Still, I would love to see the NRA go for a restraining order in federal court.
urge insurers and bankers statewide to determine whether any relationship they may have with the NRA or similar organizations sends the wrong message to their clients and their communities who often look to them for guidance and support,
WTF? Are there people walking around with WWBD bracelets?
"Gee honey, I don't know if we can do that. What would the bank say?"
I think by "guidance and support" they probably mean "loans".
^This. As a banker myself, I think none of us would be mistaken for a moral compass, at least between 8am-8pm.
not just loans but the processing of credit and debit cards, square one already refuses to process all sporting goods stores so I refuse to shop at any small store that uses it and i let them know why. This is a small reason why so many want a cashless society so that they can shut down businesses they don't like
They mean credit or debit card transactions.
Citibank has already issues policy statements to its clients who use its credit card procesing services that they will be dropped if they sell guns or ammo to people under the age of 21.
If you have a citibank credit card, cut it up today.
The NY State government version of the "dear colleague" letter.
They've been using this trick for years. Like when they "convinced" the credit card companies to stop paying for online cigarettes to anyone living in NY. Always accompanied with a smug "New Yorkers don't want this" attitude. Banana republic mob rule shit.
Albeit an upper East Cost we are smarter and better than you flyover bumpkins banana republic. They do not think it is even remotely possible these type of shenanigans will ever come back to bite them.
Yeah, just wait til Republicans get back in pow-- hahaha I couldn't finish it.
Yeah, the Republicans won't be in power in NY, but just wait until some other state like AL or GA decide to use their regulatory authority to punish banks and insurers for doing business with Planned Parenthood or Greenpeace or some shit. The screeching from the left will be unbearable.
If they're not doing it already, why not? Perhaps this is one small difference between the parties.
Thanks for the laugh, Rhywun. They have the house and senate, but they still aren't back in power. That's a very special kind of stupid, and proof of zero philsophy of governance.
Love the "upper" EC qualifier. This shit isn't from Charleston.
They did in 2016. Trump only won because of the contempt Democrats have for their base outside of the metropolitan centers. Bubba could have held onto the voters that Hillary lost, and the Dems may well never get them back especially as they push ever more leftward.
I thought the Constitution existed to prevent two wolves and a sheep from voting democratically on what is for dinner. Is there a reason the Constitution is not enforced in New York or California?
Because they're special. Just ask them.
Boodle?
Because the Constitution is a living document written by evil dead white guys.
No.
Because majority are sheep, but they vote the way the wolves tell them to.
"Is there a reason the Constitution is not enforced in New York or California?"
Democrats, the party that has been trying to subvert the constitution since 1789.
Cuomo is tyranny personified. Remind exactly what the NRA does that's illegal besides offend the perpetual ignorance of the progressive classes?
This is precisely what the Founding Fathers meant by tyranny.
One could say Cuomo doesn't see the irony.
The "funny" part is that Cuomo probably couldn't care less about the NRA, but he's scared shitless by that far-leftist chick from Sex in the City so he's trying to take over all her positions.
Rufus The Monocled|5.1.18 @ 9:44AM
"Cuomo is tyranny personified. Remind exactly what the NRA does that's illegal besides offend the perpetual ignorance of the progressive classes?"
Calling Claire Wolfe, calling Claire Wolfe: Is it STILL not time to shoot the bastards? [http://gos.sbc.edu/w/wolfe.html]
To camouflage the law-changing power of libertarian spoiler votes, the Kleptocracy shrieks at lobbies (Naral, NRA, LEAP, MADD) as agents of change. In fact, the LP and the Liberal Party before it were the prime movers that struck down coathanger abortion laws, felony beer prohibition, Comstock censorship, exercise of conscription, prohibition of plant leaves, gay baiting. Communo-fascist third parties were goood as an excuse for expanding Kleptocracy power. But the LP works to reduce coercion, is therefore baaad, and must be crushed the way Nixon intended. When attacking lobbies fails, the gloves will come off.
They only wearwear gloves when they don't want to leave fingerprints. The rest of the time it's bare knuckle brawling. They could not care less about what anyone thinks of them.
This is good because people need to be reminded which is the Party of Slavers.
Hmm, something about frogs in a pot...
Don't be silly; frogs cannot smoke pot.
"Nice business ya got here, be a shame if something were to happen to it." should be the NY State government's motto.
Hire the A-Team?
"urge insurers and bankers statewide to determine whether any relationship they may have with the NRA or similar organizations sends the wrong message to their clients and their communities"
"Sir, we have determined that any such relationship does not send the wrong message."
Easy to say, hard to live with.
As the Compliance Officer at my current company likes to say, "[the regulator] can't make you do it. But he can make you wish you had." The power of petty bureaucrats to retaliate is hard to overestimate.
Almost exactly the same logic the federal government uses to compel states to embrace federal programs: "if you do what we want there's money in it for you, if you don't then the money disappears". And SCOTUS has said this does not constitute federal invasion of state power because, after all, participation in X federal program is entirely voluntary.
Ugh. A banks craft is money. They are not to "send a message" - that's for tweenagers, and the mentally incompetent.
the next letter will ask corporations to evaluate their associations with certain political parties. this whole thing is unconstitutional but people are allowing it. I do believe though the NRA could sue based on them eliminating their choices for practicing constitutional rights. If they can force bakers to bake then they can force banks to bank
This is an astonishing, though entirely predictable, consequence of "Know Your Customer" mandates to the financial industry. These and other IRS requirements have destroyed banking privacy. Thank you, War on Drugs, for facilitating progress toward a totalitarian state.
Bad laws procreate faster than rabbits. The only difference is that each generation of new laws is uglier than the last.
""My father may have been the originator of the concept of employing the IRS as a weapon of political retribution," Elliott Roosevelt observed of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt."
Another paranoid Tea Party type bashing FDR for saving capitalism.
FDR was a fascist -- not a Nazi, not the savior of capitalism, but a fascist -- and his policies, from the National Industrial Recovery Act to the War Production Authority, were lifted straight from Mussolini's Italy.
As for those who still claim it never could happen here, take the time to look up Manzanar or Tule Lake.
It's amazing what gets left out of your kiddies government-approved history books.
FDR did everything in his power to destroy capitalism and destroy the constitution. He largely succeeded. He left us with a political legacy that is currently destroying the country, starting with the Orwellianly named "social security".
To me, the most disturbing thing about all this is the thought of FDR having sex.
They go after the gun shops, not the buyers.
Gun shops have trouble getting access to many of the typical retail financing products.
And I think this is aimed at things like NRA cobranded credit cards and the like.
This won't affect where and how you use your credit card.
This sounds like an excellent RICO case in the making which would take down most of the liberal hierarchy in the fiefdom of New York.
Need to appoint Trey Gowdy as new Attorney General, and go after the Governor and Mayor. I can't think of anyone I would rather see in Sing-Sing. . .
Just to be clear, my RICO reference is with regards to:
"Not much has changed since then, as business hopefuls continue delivering bribes to current Mayor Bill de Blasio and Governor Cuomo in hopes of getting their projects green-lighted (the officials themselves remain seemingly immune to prosecution for receiving bribes?probably because they make the laws)."
As opposed to their typical liberal abuse of power towards the NRA.
The best thing about blue CA is that it's not NY.
I continue to hope that New Yorkers will find a peaceful way to deal with Cuomo, DeBlasio and the rest of the vermin who infest that unhappy state. No wonder that these scum want to disarm decent people before enough of them wake up. Say what you will of them they would not have achieved their goal of committing oppression if they were stupid.
Well, there are a few million people who would likely shred their citibank issued credit cards and switch to something else. The banks who play ball with Cuomo are not going to like one particular result if they follow the pied piper: money velocity will go down. For a bank, that's the kiss of death - they make most of their money on a transactional basis with fees, and credit cards loom large for daily cash flows.
Already closed my Citibank account which I opened in 1977.
Wells Fargo has been on the wrong side of morality for some while and supports the gun industry. I will be moving to Citibank which is on the other side.
I no longer support the Second Amendment which has become way too expensive to maintain.
And, of course, I will support Feinstein and melting down all the AR-15s in USA.
The actions of the New York and California state governments should scare the hell out of all of us. Both are shining examples of our future if progressives actually achieve true power. They have no problem using the government to mandate and dictate every aspect of our lives. These state governments have become the very type of government the Founding Fathers wrote the US Constitution to protect the people from and why returning to a true Constitutional federal government is so critical. Since the early 1900s, the Federal government has centralized more and more power until it became the intrusive, overbearing entity it is today. Now progressives are attempting to take that success to the state level as demonstrated in NY and California.
"I am directing the Department of Financial Services to urge insurers and bankers statewide to determine whether any relationship they may have with the NRA or similar organizations sends the wrong message to their clients and their communities who often look to them for guidance and support,"
So all the banks need to contribute to the NRA to show their respect for the constitution, and recommend that their customers do so as well?
The Department encourages its chartered and licensed financial institutions to continue evaluating and managing their risks, including reputational risks, that may arise from their dealings with the NRA or similar (Constitutional) promotional organizations, if any, as well as continued assessment of compliance with their own codes of social responsibility. The Department encourages regulated institutions to review any relationships they have with the NRA or similar (Constitutional) promotion organizations, and to take prompt actions to managing these risks and promote public health and safety. There, fixed it for you.
Actually, you didn't.
Let's see if I can do better:
"The Department encourages its chartered and licensed financial institutions to continue evaluating and managing their risks, including reputational risks, that may arise from their dealings with Governor Cuomo, the Democratic Party in New York, or similar promotional organizations, if any, as well as continued assessment of compliance with their own codes of social responsibility. The Department encourages regulated institutions to review any relationships they have with Governor Cuomo, the Democratic Party in New York, or similar promotion organizations, and to take prompt actions to managing these risks and promote public health and safety."
take prompt actions to managing these risks
Evidently Tennessee is nice this time of year - - - - - - - -
How is this not fascistic? The primary difference between mainstream socialism and the fascist variety is that fascists don't own the means of production, they just tell businesses what to do.
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Cuomo is one of many ass clowns in New York State Government. Corruption, high taxes, and sleazy politics is forcing many residents to leave the State. I have taken NRA courses and been a member for years. Cuomo and his gang of thugs are once again blowing smoke up our arses! To those that enjoy a circus keep electing this man who has run up the debt, neglected infrastructure repair and tosses our tax dollars to the wind. The NRA isn't going anywhere people! He is a circus clown. (OMO) - one man's opinion
Here is a definition I found on the Internet of fascism. FASCISM is an economic model in which the state dictates the utilization of privately held assets to achieve public policy goals. Is this not exactly what New York is doing?
Fascism is the other side of the coin on which socialism resides. Fascism a step on the road to socialism.
Is this not a form of Tyranny?