Rand Paul Worries Mike Pompeo Will Keep America in Afghanistan Even Longer
"The president has been very specific, at times, on this," Paul said. "He said 'it is time to get out of Afghanistan.'"

Some senators may be worried that CIA Director Mike Pompeo, tapped by Donald Trump to be the next secretary of state, agrees with the president too much. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) says his concern is exactly the opposite.
Paul worries that Pompeo might disagree with Trump's instincts on the seemingly never-ending war in Afghanistan. The senator argues that Trump was elected in part because of his desire to end that war and his strong opposition to nation building.
"The president has been very specific, at times, on this," Paul said during Pompeo's confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee today. "He said, 'It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and bridges and schools for people who hate us. It is not in our national interest.'"
Of course, Trump being Trump, there are always other quotes that can be used to refute almost anything he has said. Pompeo parried Paul's questions by pointing out that Trump has changed his stance on Afghanistan in recent months.
"I share the president's view that we have a continued role there," Pompeo said. "We're not at a place yet where it's appropriate [to leave]."
Will we ever reach that place? "I think we won the battle," Paul said. "We did. We literally did. There is no one left alive who plotted the attacks on 9/11. We are now sending people to war who were not even born when 9/11 happened."
Paul's position on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee could be critical to Pompeo's confirmation. If the committee's 10 Democratic members oppose him, Paul would be the swing vote on the 21-member committee. A committee vote is expected later this month. A spokesman confirmed that Paul still plans to vote "no."
If the nomination makes it to the Senate floor via a different route, Republicans, with their slim 51–49 majority, could face another close vote.
Paul opposed Pompeo's appointment to run the CIA last year, saying in January 2017 that Pompeo's "desire for security will trump his defense of liberty." He was the lone GOP vote against Pompeo's appointment.
While senators on both sides of the aisle queried Pompeo about his views on the Iranian nuclear deal, the rise of China as a geopolitical force, the threat posed by North Korea, and the relationship between the U.S. and Russia, there were few direct confrontations over Pompeo's own record. Sen. Johnny Iskason (R-Ga.) ended a long non-question by inviting Pompeo to "feel free to brag about yourself." But Pompeo's record deserves serious scrutiny, because it's a record that includes support for domestic surveillance, opposition to a free press, and a call for the execution of Edward Snowden.
One of the few attempts at forcing Pompeo to explain himself was made by Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who pointed out that Pompeo had voted on multiple occasions when he was a member of the House to restrict then-President Barack Obama's ability to wage war in Libya, and elsewhere, without permission from Congress. "Now that I'm in the executive branch, my views on that have not changed," Pompeo said before pivoting to argue that "multiple presidential administrations" have engaged in limited military assaults—as the Trump administration did last year when it launched missiles at Syria, something it may be preparing to do again—without congressional authorization.
The implication was that Pompeo believes that sort of unapproved military activity is perfectly fine. "That we have done it in the past doesn't make it constitutional," Paul said, picking up on the earlier exchange between Pompeo and Kaine. "I take objection to the idea that the president can go to war where he wants, when he wants."
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"We're not at a place yet where it's appropriate [to leave]."
With all due respect, if we left we'd be at such a place.
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Fun facts:
1) Sicily used to be part of an empire that had it's capital in Africa. I'm going to encourage my half Sicilian cousins to identify as African-American when they apply to colleges.
2) Bill Clinton invited Arafat and Rabin to the White House so they could sign a treaty regarding a land dispute in Asia.
3) Jimmy Carter had Egypt and Israel sign a treaty involving the transfer of a the Sinai Peninsula, a territory in Asia, from Israel to Egypt.
4) Obama and then Secretary of State Clinton tried to salvage their foreign policy reputations by "pivoting to Asia", because the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan was not as good as they wanted.
"The president has been very specific, at times, on this," Paul said.
The president has been very specific, at times, on lots of issues.
The President should seek Congressional authorization before starting a Twitter war.
I don't understand why they don't just open a blank word document and tell Trump it's Twitter. Are we going to pretend like he would be able to figure out that they're lying to him?
"I've read some of it. Even for the internet... it's pretty shocking."
That is exactly what I was thinking. Trump is like a less intelligent or cunning Creed
"I've been involved in many cults, both as a leader and as a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader."
Cults can indeed be fun, but the dry cleaning bills get expensive.
Hey, a cult is just a religion that isn't large and respectable yet.
"The senator argues that Trump was elected in part because of his desire to end that war and his strong opposition to nation building."
Your publication argued the very same thing
http://www.reason.com/blog/2017/10/30.....esidency-f
'Argued' is the wrong term to use. Your magazine reported the results of a study suggesting the same thing. Paul isn't saying anything strange here
They're not saying they disagree with Rand Paul.; they're just reporting his line of reasoning.
I'm not saying they disagree, but they seem to question the validity of his argument.
"Of course, Trump being Trump, there are always other quotes that can be used to refute almost anything he has said. Pompeo parried Paul's questions by pointing out that Trump has changed his stance on Afghanistan in recent months."
Mike Pompeo:Afghanistan::Ellen Pompeo:Grey's Anatomy
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"I take objection to the idea that the president can go to war where he wants, when he wants."
He should have strenuously objected - that's how it's done.
We live in a Banana Republic.
Having Tim Kaine (TIM. KAINE.) pushing back against unauthorized war is the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black. Or to use a phrase that is often used to cover for hypocrisy- "whataboutism"
I came to that conclusion after the raid on Cohen's office.
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We aren't going to leave Afghanistan until our empire collapses in on itself. A very sad reality to face.
At which point the afghans will invade and vanquish all but the tribal regions of Minnesota and Wisconsin who, with support from Canada, will hold them at bay for many generations.
There should never be a career path from a spook agency to any diplomatic post. This appointment is obscene.
-jcr
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- ENB
I watched some the testimony and got the feelz a Dem or 2 were going to vote yay.
Well, we mustn't endanger an appurtenance of the deep state that we ourselves might want to take advantage of someday.
The State Depart has a web page about US-Afghani relationships. It says that we have 8,000 military personnel there focusing on training and counter-terrorism with permission from the Afghani government and help from NATO allies. It looks like we're in Afghanistan in the same sense that we are in South Korea.
Rand, your fight is with The President, not the SecState, because Pompeo is not a turd like John Kerry, but does what he is directed to do by The Boss.
Oh, ABTW, Rand, the American People chose Donald Trump over you in 2016......Get over it!
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