Will Stephon Clark's Killing by Police Finally Force Open California Misconduct Investigations?

Lawmakers have tried to counter the powerful law enforcement lobby and failed.


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Stephon Clark was shot eight times in the back and side by the Sacramento police officers who chased him into his own backyard, according to a private autopsy ordered by his family and released today.

This information will most certainly complicate the claims made by the police. When the officers shot Clark on March 18 while investigating a 911 call about vehicle break-ins, it was because he "turned and advanced towards the officers while holding an object which was extended in front of him," the police have said.

After the shooting, the police discovered that Clark, 22, did not have a gun or any weapon. He was holding a cellphone. The autopsy report released today questions whether the police were even telling the truth that Clark was confronting them. Police body camera footage (and helicopter footage) released after the shooting does not provide a clear picture.

According to the private autopsy, it likely took between three to 10 minutes for Clark to die. From The New York Times:

"These findings from the independent autopsy contradict the police narrative that we've been told," Benjamin Crump, the family's lawyer, said in a statement. "This independent autopsy affirms that Stephon was not a threat to police and was slain in another senseless police killing under increasingly questionable circumstances."

Mr. Crump said the results proved that Mr. Clark could not have been moving in a threatening fashion toward the officers when they opened fire.

Mr. Clark's family has expressed frustration with the response from county and city officials, whom they have suggested are trying to cover up misconduct by their police officers. The independent autopsy, Mr. Crump and his team said, was undertaken to guarantee impartiality. The Sacramento County Coroner's office has not publicly released Mr. Clark's autopsy results, but did confirm that he died of multiple gunshot wounds. They had not disclosed how many bullets hit Mr. Clark. The Sacramento police did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the private autopsy.

Clark's death has prompted Black Lives Matter protests and activism in Sacramento, as well as the familiar "he was no angel" defense of police behavior (Clark had a criminal record and was on probation for robbery at the time he was killed—but there's no indication the police knew anything about him when they chased him).

Clark's killing by police has also sparked another round of discussion and debate over how opaque and secretive investigations of police misconduct are in the Golden State. Reason and other media outlets have made note over and over again how the powerful police lobby in the state has worked to craft the law so that it conceals just about all information that comes out of police misconduct investigations. Law enforcement unions fight to keep misconduct records even out of the hands of prosecutors who are trying to make sure they don't put bad cops up on the stand. It took a California Supreme Court decision to force stubborn law enforcement agencies to cough up just the names of police officers involved in fatal shootings (in another case involving an unarmed man shot to death).

Next week, state Sen. Nancy Skinner (D-Berkeley) plans to introduce new legislation that would require more public disclosures of police investigations that involve shootings and use of force. She has a tough fight ahead of her.

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    2. Better than “Top 10 Reasons Why Cops Shot Black Man”

  2. From one of the links:

    “And Clark had a criminal history, four cases in four years that included charges of robbery, pimping, and domestic abuse. Sacramento County court files show he pleaded no contest to reduced charges, spent time on a sheriff’s work detail and was on probation for the 2014 robbery when he was killed.”

    This doesn’t make him some sort of outlaw you can shoot on sight. He has as much right not to be shot as anyone else – no more and no less.

    The question is what he did in this particular incident – did his violent tendencies recur, or did he keep on the straight and narrow yet get shot anyway?

    1. He was doing some shady shit.


      1. I notice they immediately cuff the corpse. So that’s good.

        1. I snickered … 🙁

          Why was a police helicopter tracking this guy with FLIR, though? I couldn’t understand the 911 call, but it seems pretty hardcore (and really expensive) to do for an average call.

          1. Cops love helicopters. In Fairfax County, VA the cops use helicopters for the most petty, trivial shit.

          2. Prowler breaking in to people’s yards in the middle of the night and smashing car windows to steal stuff is an “average call”?

    2. From the overhead helicopter IR camera, he was wandering around in the direct vicinity of where the officers were searching for the burglar/vandal. Then ran and hopped a fence into his grandmothers backyard. And rather than go inside, he stood around her car and looked into it and stuff. The helicopter told the officers he was breaking into another car (not knowing it was his grandmothers house) and gave them the location. Officers came around the front of that driveway – told him to stop – he bolted round the back into the backyard. The first officer who came round that corner (which can’t be seen by heli because of the way it was circling) shouted Gun! Gun! and both officers then blasted away.

      It’s hard really to second guess the shoot itself. The sergeant who a few minutes later told the involved officers to “Hey – mute” is very suspicious. There is no possible ‘panic’ decision there and it smells of ‘get your stories straight’ cover-up.

      1. Hey mute we gotta come up with a story PRONTO

      2. Shouting “gun, gun” is standard cover for any malfeasance.

        1. Maybe. It is also a standard reaction when with adrenaline pounding one rounds a corner while running at night and sees the chasee stopped (which he did for reasons I can’t understand) with what might well look like a gun (a cellphone was found not in his pockets). Which since the officers were put into that situation by their job becomes ‘excusable homicide’ (which isn’t ‘justifiable homicide’ but also isn’t criminal).

          As I said – not easy to second-guess (which means using one part of the brain (cortex) of someone who wasn’t in that situation to judge a different part of the brain (amygdala) of someone else who was in that situation).

          IMO – focusing on the individual officers (or the victim for that matter) in this case is the WAY wrong focus. Any effort to blame them as bad apples or evil is, by definition, excusing (and de facto helping cover up) everything related to their training/recruiting/management/etc. Pure fall guy stuff.

    3. Eidde

      “The question is what he did in this particular incident – did his violent tendencies recur, or did he keep on the straight and narrow yet get shot anyway?”

      He was on a crime spree, but he was obviously “on the straight and narrow.”

      1. In the question you quote, I wasn’t being rhetorical, I was acknowledging that I didn’t know which scenario was the true one.

        I called attention to his criminal history because of the sociological reality that someone with a criminal history is more likely to be behaving badly than someone without one – and I actually thought the original post wasn’t giving enough acknowledgement of this reality.

  3. What happened to good old inquest juries, by the way?

  4. I think it was a bad shoot but the guy was up to no good.


    1. What no good was he up to? Because the weirdest thing I saw was that he cut through his neighbors back yard. Other than that he looked into a car at the place he was staying, which is not particularly suspicious to me.

      1. That’s called tresspassing.

        1. Do we know if the neighbors cared if he was there? Even then, is that proof of doing anything? I cut through neighbors yards all the time when I was a kid, do I get shot for that now?

          1. He wasn’t a kid.

            1. And I’m saying that this doesn’t fundamentally change the drama of the situation. I think we need to know why he was walking through a yard before we can say he was up to something shady.

              And then of course, this is all orthogonal to the core point and does nothing but argue the police’s point that he was a bad guy and thus his summary execution was justified.

              1. Whether he was up to something shady is in doubt; with regard to the cops, on the other hand, we know that they were up to something a whole lot worse than shady: murder.

                I would charge them with murder 1 and seek the death penalty, even though it is not available in California, upon the basis that the death penalty should be the presumptive punishment for cops who murder while on duty.

              2. I admit this is a guess but because there was a helicopter and a bunch of cops chasing him?

                1. Its murder. Fry their collectivist asses.

              3. BestUsedCarSales

                “I think we need to know why he was walking through a yard before we can say he was up to something shady.”

                Apparently, everyone knows but you.

            2. Here are the pieces of evidence we have:

              1) He has multiple convictions already which, unsurprisingly, include robbery
              2) He was looking like he was doing some shady shit. Hopping over peoples fences at night and breaking glass windows is not law abiding behavior, especially for a grown ass man

              I have these two pieces of evidence, I have a feeling he was robbing. Am I certain? No. But it certainly makes sense.

          2. BestUsedCarSales|3.30.18 @ 4:41PM|#

            “Do we know if the neighbors cared if he was there? Even then, is that proof of doing anything? I cut through neighbors yards all the time when I was a kid, do I get shot for that now?”

            If you are doing it to escape from committing multiple crimes, yes.

            1. What crimes?

        2. Which is a civil tort not a criminal act.

          1. MatthewSlyfield|3.30.18 @ 6:58PM|#

            “Which is a civil tort not a criminal act.”

            What? Smashing people’s car windows, breaking into their vehicles, or trespassing? They’re all crimes, but you knew that.

            Do you really think you can make this stuff up? In any event, the First Law of Lying is plausibility.

            1. I didn’t see any evidence of him smashing windows and if there was some evidence, it should have gone to a jury. The cops had no evidence of a crime at that point anyway so they certainly shouldn’t have been judge, jury and executioner.

              As for trespassing, there is no law saying you can’t enter someone else’s property unless it’s posted properly. And you don’t know if that neighbor was this guy’s best friend and they cut through each other’s yards all the time with permission. Again, no evidence of trespassing and the police certainly had none at the time.

        3. that shouldn’t get you shot by cops. I used to “trespass” all the time as a kid taking shortcuts. By your definition I should have been shot for my childhood shenanigans.

          1. When you’re 30 it’s not shenanigans.

          2. When I was 12, I was held at the end of a shot gun for cutting through some guy’s yard. He called the police who came and yelled at us for actually not even breaking the law since we were never told to stay out of his yard.

    2. In this country your guilt or innocence is decided by a jury trial, not by cops in the field. It doesn’t matter what he was “up to.”

      1. Well if you are shot dead the jury is ‘out’ and the sentence has been ‘executed’. Appeal is not forthcoming.

      2. If you don’t want to get shot don’t get “up to” nothing.

  5. the guy would be alive if he’d stopped the first time the police had him. That said cops do take to shooting to quickly and need to be retrained but unfortunately with BLM involved now it is a race issue even though one of the cops was black and its well documented that as a percentage whites are shot far more often than any other group

    1. Not just as a percentage, but when you break it down by interaction rates, whites are more likely to be shot on a per-interaction-with-the-police basis as well.

      Still, there doesn’t seem to be any legitimate reason for the cops shooting this dude. Punishment for the cop who did should be forthcoming, but obviously, we won’t see that.

      1. No they aren’t, as a percentage blacks are waaaay more likely to get shot during a police interaction.

        1. No, they’re not. A (Black) researcher at Harvard did the bed study to date on the matter and found that under similar circumstances blacks are slightly less likely to get shot than whites.

          The reason black people are killed by police overall more that white people us because they’re far more likely to commit crimes.

    2. The rate for blacks is 3 times that of whites.

      1. And the murder rate for black men is 7x higher than white men. Violent crime rate is >4X higher for blacks. Even with hate crimes, black offending rates are twice as high as whites. These numbers are straight from the FBI and Obama’s DOJ’s crime reports. Black men are more likely to be shot by cops because they’re more likely to encounter a cop due to high crime rates, more likely to resist arrest, and more likely to run.

        There is zero evidence that cops are more likely to shoot a black person in the same situation as a white man. If anything, the vast disparity in violent crime rates suggest otherwise.

        When’s the last time the media has reported on an unarmed white man being killed by cops for more than a second? According to WaPo’s tracker, there are twice as many.

        But they need to keep the narrative.

        1. How unwoke are you? Which priveledge is more dangerous than North Korean nukes. White people are never unarmed.

          1. White privilege* Stupid phone.

            1. He’s got a phone!! Shoot him!

        2. I thought you didn’t see color.

          1. Is that your rebuttal?

    3. “the guy would be alive if he’d stopped the first time the police had him”

      Really? I’m glad you know that. Because he shouldn’t have ended up dead the second time they had him either. First, given that they weren’t able to tell if the guy was holding a phone or a gun, there’s no reason to assume that they even knew they had the right guy on the porch. Second, plenty of people have been shot when they were cooperating. Google Sal Culosi, just for starters; there are plenty more.

      In this specific case, the cops appear to be incompetent at best, and completely out of control at worst. Running from the cops isn’t the best idea, but given that plenty of people have heard stories about cops hurting people unjustly, it’s not exactly unreasonable either. So maybe don’t blame the victim.

      1. I’m not certain he wouldn’t have been shot the first time the officers told him to stop and show hands.

        But bolting is certain to induce adrenaline in the police who are then going to chase. And then stopping AFTER you round a corner is 100% guaranteed to turn that adrenaline into a massively high probability of a panic decision when the pursuing officer rounds that corner and all of a sudden suspect is right there rather than fleeing further away.

        I’m NOT blaming the victim here. No reason to believe he did anything deliberately here. It was just lizard brain panic reactions all around. But by that same token – the police officers themselves are not incompetent or completely out of control either. They are put into that situation by their job – and then react like humans.

        If there is fault here, it is in the training – do you pursue when you have heli eyes? if so, for what suspected crimes? – and management – sergeant who told them to ‘hey mute’ (and that’s it) after they had obviously discharged weapons should lose his rank/job since that clearly violates a formal investigation process.

        1. They were following their training, training from a lying psychopath who is paid with our taxes. I don’t know if this department was trained by this man but it’s basically the training their getting these days.

    4. I doubt that even this outrage will change the current culture of unaccountable, out-of-control psychopaths and sociopaths who happen to be members of the law enforcement community. It’s not just the “blue wall”, it’s the entire rotten setup…powerful police unions, owning DEMO-RAT (“Democrat”) local and state politicians, who shield them from public scrutiny in return for their political contributions.

      How I would change this…

      Federal employees are prohibited from making political contributions to partisan candidates, via the Hatch Act of 1939. I propose state and federal laws to be binding on so-called “peace officers” for the same reason.

      Second, a state law mandating police camera recording of all encounters with the public. Violation of this policy, absent malfunctions proven to be beyond control of the respective officer(s) involved, would result in mandatory dismissal.

      Third, a state commission should be established overseeing police use of force. This commission should have a minimum of FIVE members, of which at least THREE should have never worked as a peace officer

      Fourth, any deaths arising from police activity must be turned over to the State Attorney General.

      No system is perfect, but anything would be better than the gaggle of badged, unaccountable psycopaths whom we pay to ostensibly “protect and serve”. Indeed, we need protection from THEM.

  6. Since when has it become acceptable for police to shoot people over a car break in or a parking ticket? According to the initial story, there was even a police chopper involved in a search because of vandalized cars? Teenagers do stuff like that all of the time, and it shouldn’t involve a police chopper.

    There was a case in Locust Grove, GA last month where a man had a missed court date for a ticket (leaving a commercial truck in a driveway in a residential area), and cops had to come to his house because of a missed court date, call for backup, and shot him 4 times, while the initial responding cop was murdered.

    I’ve missed a court date for a speeding ticket due to moving (court date was sent to old address), and there was officially a warrant out, and I just showed up at court for a different ticket a year later and had it taken care of. No one came to my home to apprehend me.

    The militarization of police is really getting out of control in this country, and anyone that tries to blame the victim is really just sticking their head in the sand.

    1. Man, watching the video from the helicopter posted by IceTrey above is crazy. I was thinking the same thing; why the hell are they using FLIR for a (potential!) non-violent criminal in a California suburb? It felt like I was watching a C-130 bombing run on terrorists in the Middle East. You’re gonna give these guys all this military equipment and then act surprised when they go full-on soldier?

      1. I almost hope they go full solider. They seem to have more control and training.

        1. That’s true. You can tell from these shooting videos just how scared the cops are. What the hell are they telling them in the academy? Like 150 die a year. It’s almost as rare as school kids being killed in a mass shooting.

          I’m sure the hyper-cautiousness is helping keep the cop fatalities low, and I don’t know how often there is actual danger, but I think we can find a better balance than pumping 8 rounds into anyone who twitches in response to somebody screaming at them.

          1. Even then, most of those deaths are things like heart attacks or car accidents.

            I don’t know if they count them together, but I think the most dangerous police job is Highway Patrol, just because people get hit giving tickets.

            1. There are indeed a lot of “vehicular assaults” on state troopers.

              That list is meticulously curated, though. 1000+ inline citations. The number of 9/11-related deaths is surprising. I wonder how broad those criteria are.

              1. Sorry to report but policing does not even make it into the top 10 most dangerous occupations.

          2. Don’t forget the raw material which attend the academy.

            Not the type that is going to make and produce upon a voluntary and consensual basis.

            Not the type who are going to be productive – and add value to society.

            Not the type who are the best and the brightest.

            Not the type high up on the IQ ladder.

            Not the type who are going to be great entrepreneurs.

            Not the type who are or who are headed towards being great thinkers.

            Not the type who are or will become great creators of art, cinema, literature, or music.

            Not the type who are going to make and invent and innovate.

            Not the type who are going to respect the NAP.

            1. Talk about needing to check your privilege…..

            2. I can only assume that you are the obverse of all that.

            3. And many who have never shot a gun before their 3 days of training according my son who attended the police academy in Houston. He also worked at a gun range where constables came to qualify. Everyone who worked there was shocked at how bad most of the cops were. Most hadn’t shot since the previous year when they went to qualify. My son never did become a Houston cop. After spending all that time with police officers in the academy, he had no interest in working with men who were inept, violent and corrupt.

              1. What did you expect from the Progressive Plantation Houston? Where the Progressives discourage training with firearms and work hard to ensure that even the residents are mostly defenseless victims of the criminals?

            4. Taught in a school that had a CJ program. Guarantee you most aspiring cops are NOT people you want carrying a badge and a gun. No, they are by no means all homicidal maniacs, but your list is pretty good.

              I came away from it with an appreciation of the hiring process by Law Enforcement agencies. When you have 100 applicants, 90 of which should be rejected, picking one of the right ten is a tall order. I am amazed that they don’t have more bad apples than they do.

          3. That panic is definitely a problem. Dumb to blame the individuals or it looks that scene from Airplane – https://youtu.be/i0GW0Vnr9Yc

            But its a huge systemic/recruiting/training/mgmt/arming problem

      2. Helicopters in South Sac (Sacto in general) were a relatively common occurrence, at least, when I lived there 10 years ago (about a mile from where this occurred).

        The first time a spotlight swept through the backyard was exciting (having come from a very small town in Michigan). The novelty, however, wore off quickly.

        And the loudspeaker… Holy hell that loudspeaker was powerful. Usually it was announcing missing children, and the finding of said missing children.

    2. afk05

      Why the passive voice: “the initial responding cop was murdered”?

      The perp, Tierre Guthrie, didn’t “miss” a court date, he skipped out on it. That’s a crime for which one routinely gets arrested. When the deputies came to nab him, he shot three, killing one. He was a black supremacist, who thought America’s laws didn’t apply to him.

      “No one came to my home to apprehend me.”

      You were very lucky.

      “The militarization of police is really getting out of control in this country, and anyone that tries to blame the victim is really just sticking their head in the sand.”

      Who’s the victim? Sheriff’s Deputy Chase Maddox? Sheriff’s Deputy Michael D. Corley” Sheriff’s Deputy Ralph Sidwell “Sid” Callaway? No. For you, the perp’s the “victim.”

      “The militarization of police” is a fairy tale conjured up by felon fan boy clubs. The real problem is felons who think they have a right to resist arrest and even murder LEOs, and people like you, who cheer them on.

      1. Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America’s Police Forces


        Great, accurate read.

      2. See Lil Nicki, you are not an American. You are an immigrant, married to an immigrant. This nation was founded by men who smuggled drugs, evaded taxes, rioted, and shot cops. You do not understand that the life of a citizen, even a criminal citizen is more important than the life of an armed government thug. Both you and America would be better off if you took your family and moved back to the Eastern European ghetto that your ancestors came from.

        1. Wow mate what the holy hell are you blathering about. You want to live in Escape from New York? Be my guest, hop on a plane to eastern Ukraine. I choose morally repressed, safe, boring Utah.

          Jeez, some people.

  7. If I saw a suspicious-looking person nosing around in my backyard and went out to confront him with a gun and he took off running rather than answering my question about what he was doing in my backyard, I’m pretty sure “feared for my life” wouldn’t help me a damn bit against the charges I’d be facing if I shot him. There’s a double standard with cops – unless they have absolute proof that you’re not a threat to them, they are allowed to assume that you are a mortal threat.

    But I can understand their paranoia, there’s a cop shot in Sacramento nearly every 20 years or so, making it one of the top 15,000 most dangerous jobs in Sacramento.

    1. No problem in Texas as long as the entry wounds are in the front of the perp. Castle Doctrine.

      1. Liar, you can’t just shoot someone (or someone else) on your property in Texas for trespassing, they have to be threatening you or stealing something.

      2. It doesn’t even have to be in the front as the Joe Horn shooting proved but the trespassers do need to be committing a crime beyond trespassing.

  8. Clark had a criminal record and was on probation for robbery at the time he was killed

    Not that it really matters, but have there been any vehicle break-ins after his death?

    1. Clark should be ALIVE and cooling his heels in JAIL, awaiting re-sentencing for violating his parole. This was tantamount to a summary execution, even if it was unintended. I won’t miss his punk ass, but I’d rather be not missing him b/c he’s incarcerated instead of taking a “dirt nap”.

  9. Something’s missing at Hit & Run.

    1. Not really. I’ve been away from this site for about six years, and it’s the same shit. Same commenters scrambling to be “first”, same jokes, mostly the same Reason staff.

      1. I’m new too!

    2. And that is…?

      1. Turns out the PM links were the only reason anyone was sticking around.

  10. Same thing in 1890s California. The Invisible Empire of the Ku-Klux-Klan teamed up with labor union populists to use the force of vigilanteism and the violence of law to exclude the Chinese they’d once brought in as indentured railroad workers. Those old Klan membership forms swore them to uphold prohibition laws and never reveal the names of their godly bretheren. That tradition has evidently moved a few places up the food chain.

  11. The Trumpists running Sacramento and California will never allow an open inquiry.

    1. Oh God! You saying that Guv Moonbeam is a Trumpster? Quick! Give me the number to your pharmacy, I want what you are having…..

      1. One of the speakers at the demonstration today loudly proclaimed that it was Trump’s fault. There was no mention of any California officials.

        If I had just arrived from outer space I would have concluded that California officials were proud servants of the Emperor trump.

        1. Not that I’d seriously believe that, but who sez they’re NOT? More likely, both Jerry Brown (aka “Moonbeam”) and his gaggle of Golden State “Dummycrats” and the orange-haired POTUS both serve their real “masters”. Though I don’t believe this all to be some grandiose, overarching conspiracy, couldn’t work better if it was! More well-deserved reason for the “rabble” to “Hate on Cops”, and more “us versus them” infighting.

          Really piss ’em off, vote LIBERTARIAN this time!

      2. I don’t want what he is taking; it seems to contort one’s reality testing.

    2. What a knee-jerk, partisan piece of idiocy you have posted.

  12. “Stephon Clark was shot eight times in the back and side by the Sacramento police officers who chased him into his own backyard, according to a private autopsy ordered by his family and released today?.”

    “(Clark had a criminal record and was on probation for robbery at the time he was killed?but there’s no indication the police knew anything about him when they chased him).”

    Selective omniscience. The police were supposed to know that the burglar who had just smashed a bunch of car windows had just fled into “his own backyard,” where he continued to act like he was burgling the place, but not supposed to know that he was a career criminal.

    Nope. In for a dime, in for a dollar.

    Besides which, the guy was acting like a career burglar.

    ‘Private autopsy ordered by his black supremacist extortionist-lawyer, Benjamin Crump.’

    There?fixed that for you.

    By the way?the cops didn’t chase the mope into his grandmother’s backyard. He fled there, to escape getting caught for his crimes. In other words, he was acting like a burglar.

    Thanks for playing.

    1. You’re probably severely mentally ill.

      1. Another grade A rebuttal by Tony.

    2. Plus he managed to get shot in the back while the cops said he was advancing on them, so he was probably Elastic Man or something.

      1. Geez, someone with animation talents has GOTTA do some cops “accidentally” pluggin Elasta-Girl of “The Incredibles”!!

      2. The dude was clearly moving forward in the helicopter video. It is not even a question.

    3. go ooze back into your swamp.

    4. The police are supposed to properly identify their target. They did not do that in this case and should be facing charges for manslaughter committed under the color of authority. Given their fair trials and then quietly taken to a city park to be hanged by the neck until dead. They shot an unarmed man in the back, that is the act of a couple of cowardly criminals.

    5. And we deal with suspected burglars by summary execution?

  13. If you wish to never reign in American copping, which is completely out of control, then by all means, continue to make everything racial. Nothing is ever going to get fixed as long as skin color is highlighted, and they?.the copping industry?know this.

    There is no shortage of everyone, every day, everywhere getting punked and thugged by this bunch.

    You will trust an American cop at your peril ESPECIALLY if you’ve done nothing wrong.

    1. The best thing that local Dummycrat politicians, especially the “Afro-‘murican’ ” ones, can do is to tell that race huckster and downright fraud, Al Sharpton, to GTFO and never show his lying face again. He makes the cops look GOOD, and that ain’t easy!

  14. This has to be a hoax.

    Kamala Harris, when she was attorney general, assured us that

    “Local law enforcement must be able to use their discretion to determine who can carry a concealed weapon”


    How can an attorney general possibly be wrong about law enforcement? By virtue of her position, she was speaking ex cathedra.

  15. It wasn’t a “killing” it was MURDER by government sponsored terrorists. Police in the US don’t “protect and serve’ they hunt and kill citizens. Back in the day this was termed TREASON.
    What happened to 4th Amendment rights? Those murderers need to be prosecuted to the fullest.

    1. According to the March For Our Lives, these murders do not count.

      1. The March On Our Lives has a different opinion.

    2. You are gonna be the same clown who dials 911 like everyone else when you need help.

      You guys are all so ridiculous in your pronouncements.

  16. If leaders in the black community-politicians notwithstanding-would start shaming men for running away from their familial duties, and the baby-mommas for wantonly spreading their legs for any thug, this might serve a practical ends, namely, of raising a generation of black boys and girls who have both a father and mother in the household. A long shot, no doubt, given the ‘entrenched” nature of black, single-mother households.

    1. I blame the Drug War. So do these guys.


    2. So we ‘correct’ black social misdeeds by summary execution? At least be HONEST and sport a bedsheet. Make sure whoever makes YOURS sews better than the respective wives of THESE morons…


  17. What a coincidence that his family would misspell his name the same way on his tombstone as on his birth certificate.

  18. Just more evidence that all cops should lose the privilege of being armed while on duty.

    1. Far more unarmed people are shot and killed by police each year than are killed in school shootings. if anyone should be barred from having guns, it’s the police.

      1. California has all but abrogated the Second Amendment…it should be obvious why California “subjects” (as we’re practically unarmed, we’re not CITIZENS anymore…). We’re helpless against the “bullies in blue” as it stands now.

  19. why is everyone making such an extreme stand on this? This dude is a career criminal acting like a criminal sneaking around in backyards at night and breaking windows. Is there no responsibility for owning your actions? This dude invited disaster onto himself by acting in the manner he did. The cops did not seek him out to execute him, he ran from them through other peoples backyards, breaking at least one window, sneaking around like a thief in the dark.

    The cops had no information if he was peaceable, armed, or whatever, only that he was acting like a criminal. In a nation with million of weapons and some very violent criminals how do you think you would react if someone acting in a criminal manner moved towards you when you are clearly an armed police officer? Ask him to stop and invite him for tea?

    We can stop this, but it will come at the price of the Second Amendment. Which do you want?

  20. Police body camera footage (and helicopter footage) released after the shooting does not provide a clear picture.

    And why not?!

    If we are going to pay for these toys, they should work.
    Or is there a ‘blur’ option in the process used to release the videos?

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