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New York to Trump: Drop Dead

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There is an alternative universe where not only did Hillary Clinton win in 2016, she won by 60 percentage points. Guns are scarce and arduous to legally obtain; bikes are ubiquitous. Public transit is so widespread that millions of adults don't even own cars. People disdain Donald Trump and look down at the intelligence of his supporters.

This place, this progressive near-utopia, is called New York City. And it is run by morons.

"It's time for Big Oil to take responsibility for the devastation they have wrought," New York Mayor Bill De Blasio, recently re-elected by 39 percentage points, tweeted in January. He went on to announce he is suing five of the world's biggest oil companies for the damage caused by Superstorm Sandy and starting the process of divesting $5 billion in city pension-fund investments from the oil sector. That night the Empire State Building was lit up green. "At the local level we have to act now," De Blasio said on Morning Joe, "especially because our national government is not."

New York politics, city and state alike, are dominated by hostility toward the loud New Yorker currently residing in the White House. "NYC must lead the way in standing up to Trump Administration bigotry, injustice & corruption," ran the first sentence in the voter guide from my local city councilman, Brad Lander (who won a third term in November 2017 unopposed).

Lander's email bulletins are filled with organizing announcements about "the resistance" and defiant subject lines that might as well have been written by Dumbledore's Army about he-who-must-not-be-named. "We won't let him destroy our kids' planet (or their country)," reads one. "Time to start talking about (the road to) impeachment," reads another.

Silly me—I just want the subway to occasionally function and the airports not to be garbage dumps.

The sad truth, acknowledged in private to me by multiple senior New York Democratic Party officials, is that Lander, De Blasio, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo are all just responding rationally to the political marketplace. New Yorkers might not have any clue who their borough president or state assemblywoman are, but they sure do hate Donald Trump. In New York, all politics are national.

A local brownstone real estate agent on the main commercial thoroughfare of my Brooklyn neighborhood spent the first several months after the November 2016 election displaying in his shop window pictures of the president's face next to a pig's ass, fliers advertising general strikes, and, on the toddler-eye level, cartoon figurines sharing anti-Trump messages. "Kids," one of his fliers instructed, "Ask your parents if they like Trump or support him in any way. Then, if they say they do, remind them that it's not right to lie, cheat, mislead and be a racist and that if they continue thinking that way they cannot ask you to not lie, cheat, mislead [or] be racist either."

Some of this elected-official resistance can be useful and appropriate, such as when De Blasio refused to comply with the Trump administration's request to hand over information about the immigration status of prisoners in New York's custody. (As Rudy Giuliani and other prior mayors have rightly pointed out, residents who fear that every contact with authorities could lead to their deportation will stop contacting authorities, which makes a city harder to police.) But sadly, much of New York's rebellion is petulant, counterproductive, and wrong.

"We have vindicated the promise of progressive government," Gov. Cuomo bragged in a January State of the State speech that was long on complaints about how the Trump administration "is working to roll back so much of what we have done." On his things-to-do-list: Regulate social-media advertising so that "Russia and big anonymous donors" can no longer "jeopardize our democracy." Blue states to the rescue!

Ironically, the main constraint on local leaders' tough talk and bad behavior came as part of the biggest legislative accomplishment under Trump so far. The tax reform passed in December bit heavily into the deductibility of state and local taxes, thereby reducing New York's latitude to extract nearly infinite revenue from its wealthiest residents.

So in late January, Cuomo announced that New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut will sue the federal government to reverse the law on constitutional grounds. "We will not stand idly by," the governor tweeted, "as the federal government attacks the fiscal health of our states."

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  1. “We will not stand idly by,” the governor tweeted, “as the federal government attacks the fiscal health of our states.”

    “Because attacking the fiscal health of a state is the governor’s job!”

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  2. Trump’s administration does seem especially corrupt, indifferent to meaningful criminal justice reform and what do you think motivates the animus towards legal and illegal immigration? Probably a good bit of bigotry. The tax bill was specifically designed to damage blue states so that objection from residents of a blue state seems understandable and rational to a point. I’m not seeing where the resistance from people who identify as democrats is so outrageous or unexpected. You ever listened to conservative media or talked to your typical red state conservatives? You’ll hear crazy that puts anything you’ve described in NY to shame.

    1. Uhhh, what? Trump hasn’t done anything out of line with any recent previous presidents. At all.

      They just don’t like his policies.

      They want higher taxes on the wealthy… Except when it’s THEIR wealthy people. The state tax deduction forced states without income tax, like Washington (where I live), Texas, Florida, etc to subsidize high tax states like California, New York, etc. That’s bullshit. It’s a “loophole” if I’ve ever seen one. He got rid of it. There’s nothing unconstitutional about tweaking the tax code. Keep in mind all but 8 states (IIRC) have income tax, so he ALSO raised taxes on Idaho, Ohio, and many other states that voted for him. 42 states lost that deduction, not just CA and NY.

      I agree that conservative talk radio can be just as shriek filled as the howls coming from the Democrats now, but the difference is Sean Hannity never got the 9th circuit court to illegally stop the president from executing what are clearly constitutionally granted actions he can take. The Dems have lost their shit, and are being crazier than I have ever seen anybody get over politics. Being against illegal immigration doesn’t instantly make you Adolph Hitler. There are a lot of legit reasons to be weary of illegal immigration. Same with all his other stuff like deregulating, cutting taxes, etc.

      They’re religious zealots more than politicos at this point. At least I can enjoy their tears a little bit, although that’s little solace.

      1. ^^well said

      2. Being against illegal immigration doesn’t instantly make you Adolph Hitler.

        That’s right. The claim that it does is not valid. The accusation is totally undeserved.

        No, being against immigration which exists without government meddling makes you an authoritarian, an economic ignoramus and a xenophobe. All of them deserved.

        There are a lot of legit reasons to be weary of illegal immigration.

        The only LEGIT reason would have to be derived from an adversion towards government meddling in peaceful and voluntary contractual agreements between free individuals —the immigrant and the employer, or renter, or seller, or fianc?e. Just like being against illegal booze wouod be a legit position if the position is founded on tge principle that booze shouldn’t be illegal in the firat place, not that government should do more meddling.

        ANY other objection that ipso facto runs contra the right of people to contract with others is NOT valid.

        1. “”No, being against immigration which exists without government meddling makes you an authoritarian, an economic ignoramus and a xenophobe. All of them deserved.””

          Then what country isn’t authoritarian, a economic ignoramus, and xenophobic?

          Every country in the world requires you to go through their legal process to immigrate. Many are way more strict than the US.

          1. For the most part OM exists merely to point out how retarded the open borders people tend to be. I wouldn’t think too hard on it. The last time he and I engaged over the topic he was screeching about how the only reason people are opposed to immigration is because they are racists who hate tacos. Because that’s the only real contribution he thinks that an immigrant can really make to America: food.

            You’ll note, if you read his unhinged screeds very often, that it’s only white folk that are evil racist xenophobes. Not his home nation of Mexico, where they have a constitutional amendment forbidding immigration in any number that would change the demographics of the nation.

            1. That is how it goes. If the first person is for letting in 2 million people a year and the second one is for letting in 1 million a year, the second person is xenophobia and racist.

              1. Yup. So if that makes you an evil racist xenophobe, why even bother negotiating? Start at zero immigrants should be admitted. They can’t label you any worse for it.

        2. Old Mexican… LOL

          I believe in the concept of nation states. I do not believe open borders will serve the interests of most people in the world, especially not the first world.

          If that makes me authoritarian in that respect: GOOD. I don’t care. I am a libertarian leaning person because in 99% of cases the libertarian solution is THE BEST solution in the real world. In the very small number of cases where it clearly is not, I don’t give a fuck about breaking the principles. Rules are made to be broken and all that.

          The simple reality is that NO first world country could possibly exist with open borders in the world as it is today. I like living in a first world country, so do most other people that do. If that means we have to keep out hordes of uneducated people from third world shit holes, that’s fine by me. Let them fix their own crap countries instead of come here.

          This message was approved by a guy who is part Mexican on his mothers side… So fuck off with the racist card! It’s a common sense card, not a racist card beaner! LOL

          1. More importantly, illegal immigration trespasses on property rights. Old Mex is an idjut

      3. “There’s nothing unconstitutional about tweaking the tax code”

        Indeed there isn’t.

        The leftists squawk about eliminating the deduction being “unconsitutional” is particularly stupid.

        If eliminating it was “unconstitutional” then creating it in the first place would also be unconstitutional.

        1. Exactly! Same with the DACA order! It’s completely lacking in any logic whatsoever. It is mind boggling how they can contort their fragile little minds to actually believe that shit!

    2. Making blue states pay for their own taxes = “specifically designed to damage blue states”. Got it.

  3. …I just want the subway to occasionally function and the airports not to be garbage dumps.

    A utilitarian in a sea of woke.

    1. ^Best comment of the day^

      1. Sure is! Needs a t-shirt.

  4. the main commercial thoroughfare of my Brooklyn neighborhood

    Commercial means it’s dotted with authentic Brooklyn barbecue joints.

    1. Or someone whose decades of drug use leave them no longer capable of distinguishing reality from fantasy.

    2. “”Commercial means it’s dotted with authentic Brooklyn barbecue joints”‘

      Ha!! Not far from the truth.

      Some pretty good barbecue joints too. I really liked Beast of Bourbon, but it closed down.

      1. Yankees wouldn’t know good barbecue if it crawled out of the pit and bit them on the ass…

        1. I would know it if it bit ME in the ass, because it would have just bitten me in the ass, and I’m a yankee.

  5. Clearly, the constitutional scholars that they are, they know that the federal government really doesn’t have the right to tax law.

  6. If only they could be “woke” enough to direct that animus towards both sides. As bad as Trump is, so far (to my knowledge) he has not ordered the drone strike assassination of children guilty of sharing a meal together, nor did he specifically promise to end his predecessor’s spying on Americans and instead double-down on that spying.

    There is so much corruption, incompetence, and power-grabbing going on, arguing that the Rs are worse than the Ds is a bit like arguing whether being strangled to death is worse than being shot to death. Look at the results.
    Realize they are the same.
    Start breaking free of the two-party mentality.

    1. I would argue that nominating and then voting for Trump IS a start at breaking free of the two Party mentality. The rank and file of both Parties latched onto candidates who had branded themselves as ‘outsiders’ in 2016. The branding may have been questionable, but it existed. The Democrat establishment pulled a fast one and anointed Hillary as She Who Would Be Queen…and the voters took that bit of high-handedness and crammed it up the Democrat establishment’s backside.

      The Republican establishment didn’t undo the nomination of Trump. Maybe they thought that nobody could beat Shrillary. Maybe they were smart enough to realize that they couldn’t afford the political fallout of behaving the way the Democrats did. Either way, people viewing Trump’s victory as a triumph of Conservatism or Republicanism are missing something. Trump won because enough people are disgusted with Business As Usual to overcome the built in bias and customary cheating that goes into a Presidential campaign.

      And the two Parties don’t seem to be learning that lesson…which could get real interesting.

      1. I think a lot of establishment Republicans are still praying that Trump falls on his ass, so they can crow “Told ya so! Shoulda gone with Jeb!”

        1. Oh, yes. The Republican establishment is marginally less self-absorbed and silly than the Democrat establishment, but only marginally.

          The thing is, no third party candidate is going to be an awful lot better. Human politics are messy. Any apparent counter examples from history are almost certainly ether sloppy historical research, bad writing, or outright propaganda for somebody’s agenda.

    2. Actually, strangling people to death is much better for the environment.

  7. “Some of this elected-official resistance can be useful and appropriate, such as when De Blasio refused to comply with the Trump administration’s request to hand over information about the immigration status of prisoners in New York’s custody.”

    So, because they’re Not Racist and it’s The Right Thing To Do, convicted criminals who shouldn’t even be in the US are to be turned loose on NYC streets after their sentences are up?

    1. You know, I happen to be an open-borders type, but I don’t have sympathy for immigrants legal or otherwise who end up getting themselves arrested.

      My mom drilled it in to me as a kid: when you’re a guest in someone’s house, you behave BETTER than you would at home. That applies to being a guest in someone else’s country. You stay the hell away from trouble and show everyone just how polite you can be. Doing otherwise reflects poorly on you and, by extension, your family (i.e., the immigrant community).

    2. Either you pick and choose the laws to obey, or you believe in the rule of law.

      Deciding the constitutionality of the federal government to regulate immigration yourself is no different than deciding the constitutionality of taxing yourself.
      The entire article turned to a rant in one sentence.

      1. “Either you pick and choose the laws to obey, or you believe in the rule of law.”

        It’s actually both. The rule of law presumes that the law itself is just and moral.

        1. Who says it is unjust or immoral? I have zero qualms about booting all illegals. The law is perfectly just and moral.

          1. It’s pretty simple. If the law clearly identifies a victim, then the law is just. If there is no victim, then there is no justification for the initiation of force.

            1. “If the law clearly identifies a victim, then the law is just. If there is no victim, then there is no justification for the initiation of force.”

              Sweet! I’ve got to remember this one. A perfect definition of a just law in two sentences.

            2. You sir are correct. Laws that protect the liberty of victims of crime are a legitimate use of state violence. Laws that prosecute crimes against the state are not. They are the rule of men.

            3. It’s pretty simple. If the law clearly identifies a victim, then the law is just. If there is no victim, then there is no justification for the initiation of force.

              So, end all IP and copyright law?

              1. Yep!

                1. As someone who works in IP, that’s a fucking bullshit position! IP IS real property. If somebody steals my IP it harms ME.

                  Also, authoritarian or not, I believe in nation states. Borders matter. Anyone who thinks otherwise is essentially saying they want to live in Brazil or India where there are teeming masses of peasants, and the wealthy people in gated communities.

                  That is the inevitable outcome of open borders. I don’t want that. If that makes me authoritarian on that issue so be it!

                  Principles are only useful insofar as they have desirable outcomes. Turning the USA into Brazil is not a desirable outcome for 95% of people. If you people like the Brazilian model so much, why not GTFO of America, and move to Brazil.

        2. Not really man. I think anybody with any sense can concede that many laws are unjust and immoral. But the question is should you still enforce them?

          I’m okay with a cop exercising a little discretion in whether or not he’s going to bust somebody for a joint or something… But the government itself wholesale ignoring entire sections of the law, like on immigration… I think that’s a bit much. If you don’t have rule of law, you have chaos. That’s the kind of stuff that happens in third world shitholes.

          I’m a bit of the mind that bad laws should be strictly enforced most of the time, because that will piss people off and force the pols to change the laws for fear of their jobs.

          1. “I’m okay with a cop exercising a little discretion in whether or not he’s going to bust somebody for a joint or something… ”

            Found the closet authoritarian!

          2. I’m a bit of the mind that bad laws should be strictly enforced most of the time, because that will piss people off and force the pols to change the laws for fear of their jobs.

            Wishful thinking. Pols don’t have to fear losing their jobs. Incumbents win 90% of the time.

          3. I’m not clear why a cop choosing to ignore the law is somehow different from a city ignoring the law. So its OK for a cop to not bust someone for a joint. What about a precinct? A department? At what level does society collapse if we aren’t enforcing the letter of the law?

            Personally I have no problem with every nonsense law that violates the NAP being ignored by any and all levels of government. Most laws are simply morally wrong and we lose nothing by ignoring them. I’m pretty sure society wouldn’t have collapsed if NY City ignored the fugitive slave acts.

          4. But the government itself wholesale ignoring entire sections of the law, like on immigration…

            Unconstitutional law is law that should be ignored.

            The immigration law in question basically requires states and cities to enforce federal laws, which the federal government does not have the constitutional power to do. It’s one thing if federal agents find people who are not in compliance with federal immigration law and deport them. It’s entirely different if, like this law, the feds order state and city employees to find said people and turn them over to the feds.

          5. So you’ve already conceded the principle of the argument – that it’s okay for the authorities to enforce some laws selectively. So where do you draw the line?

            If you don’t have rule of law, you have chaos.

            So the cop should be busting perps for joints then, or not?

            But the government itself wholesale ignoring entire sections of the law, like on immigration

            This is a complete strawman invented by rightwing news. The reason why we have an illegal immigration problem in the first place is because the government strictly enforces the quotas and caps on legal immigration, creating absurdities like a 30-year “waiting list” for immigrating legally (which is not a waiting list by any reasonable standard, it is an effective ban on legally immigrating here from certain places). If the government really did ignore immigration law and allow legal immigration despite the quotas set by law, then we wouldn’t have the problems that we have today.

            I’m a bit of the mind that bad laws should be strictly enforced most of the time, because that will piss people off and force the pols to change the laws for fear of their jobs.

            No, it will create a police state instead.

            1. Look, I know plenty of legal immigrants, and not one of them took 30 years to immigrate. Not even remotely that long.

              The wait depends on which category of immigration visa you’re applying for, with merit based immigrants facing relatively short waits. The longest waits, which can mount into the decades, are for family reunification where the relative is not immediate, and there are a lot of applicants from that country.

              But if you’re applying to immigrate on your own behalf, and are already a productive, law abiding citizen of your native country, it’s not that long.

          6. To reply to a few things various people said:

            A cop ignoring the law is a small thing, and personal discretion in law enforcement always exists. It’s not a big deal in short. I don’t know exactly where I would draw the line, but it’s surely somewhere between a cop deciding not to ruin some teenagers life and the most populous state in the country ignoring constitutionally granted powers of the federal government. Frankly it’s a grey area issue.

            I kind of like the states sticking it to the feds on some issues, like weed legalization… But that is, IMO, NOT something the federal government has any valid authority in anyway. Immigration/naturalization they certainly do.

            But at the end of the day it’s a grey area straight up. The fact is trying to 110% adhere to rigid principles will always end up with you making mistakes one direction or another, because there are exceptions to any rule. Sometimes good will come from ignoring fedgov, other times bad. Life is mostly shades of grey, not black and white like dogmatic people would prefer.

        3. No, the rule of law presumes that the law itself is the expression of free public will, even though it may seem to work unjustly in this instance or the other. And BTW, “morality” is the province of the church not Congress (thank God!). If we do not respect the rule of law where there are laws we do not like (but can change if we can do our work) then we have no right to expect that others respect the rule of law where they do not like the law. And no, I’m not talking about civil disobedience, which accepts as a given that the resistance contravenes the law and will have consequences.

    3. Better a thousand Americans killed than one murderer deported.

  8. “States are not colonies of the federal government,” he said. “Federalism was a covenant. It was shared power and the federal government shall not trample the states’ powers.”

    Restricting deductions of state and local taxes ? which pay for core services such as education and public safety ? not only would be a form of double taxation, but is akin to the federal government dictating how states should spend in these key areas, the three governors argued.

    The federal deductibility of state and local taxes seems to me an argument that states *are* colonies of the federal government, not the other way around. And how is taxing the income used to pay taxes any more double taxation than my being charged sales tax on stuff I buy with money I’ve already paid income taxes on?

    1. I’d also ask how they are “double taxation”. The Feds didn’t tax NY citizens absurdly high rates. That was NY doing that. And the Feds cannot reduce the tax burden. NY can do that also.

      After 8 years of a President attacking conservatives, my empathy for Progressives here is rather low.

      1. And the Feds cannot reduce the tax burden. NY can do that also.

        They can’t?

        1. State burden? Nope. The Feds cannot make NY cut its own taxes.

          1. The feds can reduce “the tax burden” by reducing federal taxes.

      2. It’s double taxation because the same income is taxed twice?not the income remaining after 1 tax is taken out. So in part it’s a tax on tax. Not unconstitutional, but pretty nasty.

        Of course the fault could equally be said to be that of the states for not allowing deduction of federal taxes in their figuring of income they tax.

        1. It’s double taxation because the same income is taxed twice?not the income remaining after 1 tax is taken out. So in part it’s a tax on tax. Not unconstitutional, but pretty nasty.

          Given the Constitutional amendment and all — wouldn’t that mean the STATE is guilty of double taxation?

        2. “Of course the fault could equally be said to be that of the states for not allowing deduction of federal taxes in their figuring of income they tax.”

          That’s a good way of framing it! I’ll have to remember that.

    2. It’s also a funny argument to hear from people who constantly argue that our society is undertaxed.

      1. “It’s also a funny argument to hear from people who constantly argue that our society is undertaxed.”

        Most hilarious part of all! This specifically hurts HIGH INCOME EARNERS in the HIGHEST INCOME STATES. Isn’t that EXACTLY what progressives say they want??? They get their wish, and then want to fight it!

        The whole thing is bunk anyway because IIRC 42 states have income taxes. He didn’t JUST raise taxes on a few liberal states, but the majority of the country. I live in Washington, which has no income tax. So thanks to this law I will no longer be subsidizing assholes in NYC, which I am quite okay with.

      2. people who constantly argue that other people are undertaxed.

        Fixed it for you.

        1. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say that they are under taxed.

          1. I have heard people say they are under taxed, but won’t pay more than they are required.

            I once responded that I don’t exercise enough. The government should force everyone to exercise daily.

          2. Buffet and a few other high profile ‘rich folk’ have indeed claimed that they are ‘under taxed’. Gee, I wonder if they’ve changed their tune…

  9. “(As Rudy Giuliani and other prior mayors have rightly pointed out, residents who fear that every contact with authorities could lead to their deportation will stop contacting authorities, which makes a city harder to police.)”

    But this was about informing the immigration authorities about the immigration status of criminals in custody. How much effort should we be putting into making criminals in custody trust the police? Aren’t they something of a lost cause?

    Do legal immigrants really end up distrusting the police if they help deport criminal illegal aliens?

    Hell, do illegal immigrants really end up distrusting the police, if they help deport the criminals in their midst?

    No, this isn’t about rational policing policies. It’s about fighting against the enforcement of immigration laws, no matter the cost to your community.

    1. There you go again; imposing facts and logic into political incoherence.

      Get woke. There is no difference between criminals, legal immigrants, and illegal border crossers. If they are brown, they are also magically golden.

    2. This is the stuff that pisses me off the most. I think we shoot boot every single illegal out to make a point that it will not be tolerated… But I can understand women and bleeding heart pussies who don’t feel that way. But WHY IN GODS NAME would you not want to deport criminals??? Car thieves, murders, rapist, guys who held up convinience stores, etc who the hell would want to keep those kind of people??? It’s pure insanity.

      I’m part Mexican, and I still say we should send them all back from whence they came. The only reason we have such a big problem is because we’ve never been serious about enforcement, so they knew they had good odds of not getting caught if they came here. If we’d enforced reasonably all these years it would probably be several hundred thousand or a million illegals here, which would actually be a non problem. My home state of California is like a third world country now, and I can assure you it is NOT an improvement on how it was when I was a kid.

      1. Re: Vek,

        I’m part Mexican, and I still say we should send them all back from whence they came.

        Just because, right?

        “I have mine and I don’t want you to get yours.”

        1. Bringing more shitty people into the country doesn’t make the country better.

        2. vek didn’t say he came here illegally, but that he would toss out illegals.

          English. Learn it.

        3. Old Mexican, because my ancestors moved here a long time ago, helped settle the wild west, and integrated. I don’t speak beaner talk because I’m a God damn American! I don’t want to reconquista the southwest, because I’m a God damn American! I grew up around plenty of illegals in California, and most of them were NOT AMERICANS in their hearts or minds. They don’t even want to be. Also my ancestors were actually economically useful people at the time, and the same can’t be said for unskilled people nowadays. Times change, needs change, policy should change with it.

          The fact is we DO NOT NEED 10 million people with an average education at the 8th grade level, which is exactly what the average education of illegal Mexicans is. A HS education is basically not enough to be economically useful in a post industrial society anymore. We have ZERO shortage of unskilled labor. We have a welfare system that creates bad incentives for forcing the dumber native born people to work. We should be fixing that, NOT importing more net negative tax payers (all poor people mooch off the system by not paying enough in). All they will do is be a burden on everybody else. I literally watched California crumble as it turned from a solid middle class state to a state of poor illegals and upper middle class techie douche bags. It is worse than it used to be, not better.

        4. I’m cool with Mexican doctors, engineers, etc but we don’t need more dishwashers and lawn guys. I’d say the same for 8th grade dropouts from Germany or England. It’s not my fault most Mexican immigrants are uneducated and counter productive. Mexico could be a very wealthy country for all if they ever bothered to fix their own shithole country, so maybe they should do that instead of move here.

          America has no moral obligation to ruin itself for the benefit of ANY foreigners, no matter where they’re from. Period. We cannot possibly “help” every poor person in the world by letting them move here, therefore I see no reason we should do ourselves any harm by only letting in enough to slightly fuck up our country versus completely ruin it… The only thing that can ever end global poverty is making the shithole countries become non shitholes. If we keep sucking off the best and brightest we make that job harder for them, but it will at least benefit the USA. If we take their dregs we act as a blow off valve that probably prevents enough people from getting pissed and fixing their home countries. Either way we’re not helping the problem in a long term sense.

    3. It’s not just criminals in custody. If an illegal immigrant (or any other poor person) is a crime victim, and calls the cops, the cops will come, but not to help. The cops will run the person for warrants, search them, yell at them, and otherwise be total dicks. If there are no warrants and nothing comes up in the illegal searches, the cops will mock the person, tell them they deserved to be a crime victim, and then leave. If something comes up the cops will arrest the person. But the cops will make absolutely zero effort to help the person. No report, no investigation, no nothing.

      1. It’s not like it would be difficult for New York to report aliens who are criminals in custody, (I purposely omitted the “illegal” there, because committing a crime as a legal immigrant can make you deportable, and rightly so.) and not report illegal aliens who report crimes. It would be trivially easy.

        But that’s not what they’re doing. They’re deliberately setting violent criminals free to prey on people, in order to prevent them from being deported.

        1. Yeah, but the point sarcasmic is making is that the cops aren’t going to do their jobs anyway unless it’s to fuck with the person who called them.

          I want to believe that cops aren’t complete assholes, but I’m probably wrong.

          1. Cops are like anybody else, they’re not all the same.

          2. In my experience they’re all complete assholes who confuse power with authority.

            1. In my experience people who say a million individuals are all exactly the same has not lived very much experience.

              1. In my experience when you have people charged with upholding the law and they refuse to hold their own to account, the whole lot of them is tainted. 10 percent are bad apples and the other 90 percent are “good apples” that look the other way and make excuses for the 10. Fuck the whole lot of them until they get serious about reform.

      2. The cops will run the person for warrants, search them, yell at them, and otherwise be total dicks. If there are no warrants and nothing comes up in the illegal searches, the cops will mock the person, tell them they deserved to be a crime victim, and then leave.

        Not that I don’t agree with the notion that cops can be dicks, but I have to assume that at least some of these cops are not bigots to every possible immigrant community. I mean, there’s got to be at least one Sgt. Crowley for a sitting president to make an ass out of himself, right?

  10. I remember back in the mid 1980’s me and my friend drove up from Philly to visit his older brother who lived in the Village. Soon after arriving the brother made a call and had an eighth delivered like we were ordering a pizza. Been a fan of the place ever since.

    1. If you don’t mind, what the heck is “an eighth”?

      1. Is it like a fifth, only smaller?

        1. I assume it means an eighth of an ounce of some illegal substance.

        2. ^This guy fractions^

  11. (As Rudy Giuliani and other prior mayors have rightly pointed out, residents who fear that every contact with authorities could lead to their deportation will stop contacting authorities, which makes a city harder to police.) But sadly, much of New York’s rebellion is petulant, counterproductive, and wrong.

    That’d be the case with ANY criminal issue. If you have a warrant, you will not contact authorities also. I do not assume they are looking to do away with warrants.

    1. I’ve never heard that point before, despite it being so obvious… I will have to store that one in the memory banks for trolling progressives in the future!

  12. Trump to New York; you first!

  13. “…this progressive near utopia…is run by morons.”

    You repeat yourself, sir.

  14. The alternative universe of NYC is truly a fantasy.

    It cannot feed itself, clothe itself, or, to one point made by the mayor, provide its own energy. That these commodities magically appear within NYC seems beyond the ken of most progresive residents who eagerly want to shut down the regions and people that actually make stuff.

    In exchange (which, back in the real universe, provides the foundation for economic existence), what has NYC provided for the rest of the country and the world? “Global center of finance”? How has that worked out for us over the past decade?

    1. Progressivusm tends to attract those who are ibto self-loathing.

    2. Well NYC has provided us Trump, so take that for what it’s worth.

  15. Could it be that NYC is just upset that another gazillionaire has moved out of their tax grabbing range?

  16. Guns are scarce and arduous to legally obtain

    Not, naturally, if you’re wealthy and well-connected. Huzzah for egalitarianism!

  17. I love De Blasio’s quote on the problems caused by “Big Oil”. By any rational accounting, NYC itself is the biggest blight on the natural landscape caused by “Big Oil”. The city at the population and size that it is would not be possible without the revolution in transportation and commerce arising from.the utilization of fossil fuels.

    1. Yeah, this is silly.

      Even granting the connection between burning hydrocarbons and stuff like Sandy, which is…..tenuous at best, the problem wasn’t created by producing and selling the hydrocarbons, it was created by BURNING the hydrocarbons. Which wasn’t done by “Big Oil”, but was done by, well, the citizens of NYC.

      1. Blaming an industry for the weather is sort of like blaming a company for the sun, but NYC is run by religious zealots rather than politicians at this point. Democrats can win there just by saying the right thing regardless of how naturally disastrous New York has been for the surrounding environment all on it’s own.

        Even if not for their actual pollutants, they’re also a major urban heat island right on the coast where there wasn’t one two hundred years ago. I’m sure all the Progressive’s will leave the city and bulldoze it post-haste so that area can return to it’s ‘natural’ state, yeah? The same goes for every urban bastion of Progressive thought.

        Lets just say I won’t hold my breath for that to happen.

  18. (As Rudy Giuliani and other prior mayors have rightly pointed out, residents who fear that every contact with authorities could lead to their deportation will stop contacting authorities, which makes a city harder to police.)

    Illegal immigrants are usually poor people, and that’s just how cops treat the poor. If you’re poor and a victim of a crime, you better just suck it up. Because if you call the cops, they’re not going to investigate. They won’t even file a report. All they will do is run you for warrants, search you, and otherwise do their best to find a way to bust you. But help? No. Cops don’t help poor people. Legal or illegal.

    1. ^ This. I’m of the mind, right or wrong, that most perceived ‘racism’ is really just being poor. I’ve been poor to the point to where I had to sit out speeding tickets in jail before. I’m so Irish that my skin blinds people on exposure to sunlight, so it was obvious it was an economic issue. (Especially given that the Irish liked to become cops in American history…)

      Most people don’t have any clue that the ultimate punishment for most of those ‘small’ violations is jail, but if you’re in a lower economic bracket you probably know that fact pretty well.

      I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist, but most ‘racism’ is just being poor as fuck. If you’re poor, the police aren’t your friend they’re basically a tax man that can arrest your ass. Since most ‘minority’ populations that seem to have a major problem with the police are also poorer groups, this should be an expected end result regardless of ‘racism’.

  19. Is it wrong that I hope an asteroid hits NYC and wipes it off the face of this earth? I mean there’s probably 10-20% of the population that’s decent human beings… But it still seems like a worthwhile deal overall. If that happened and California finally had the giant earthquake we’ve all been waiting for, the country might actually get back on track again. 🙂

    1. Re: Vek,

      Is it wrong that I hope an asteroid hits NYC and wipes it off the face of this earth?

      It’s not wrong. It’s deranged, it’s an indication of a troubled mind, but hoping is never wrong by itself.

      1. Meh. I did hope for a natural disaster, I’m not saying anybody should nuke it or anything. Natural disasters can have upsides sometimes is all I’m sayin’!

        As far as things go though, your ideological enemies dying is a tried and true way of fixing things. I mean George Washington killed his way to making a better world, as have many others in history. I’m not one of those wimps who thinks there is never a place for violence in the world. You should be damn sure you’re doing the right thing at the right time for the right reasons, but it should never be completely off the table. Do you think America (or the world) would have been better off if Washington had been a pussy pacifist? I sure as hell don’t. Ever Jefferson, the intellectual, was down for blood. Everything has a time and a place, and that doesn’t make somebody deranged.

        You must just be one of those delusional pacifist idiots who thinks things can always be changed through peaceful means, despite the entirety of history showing that is far and away the exception rather than the rule.

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  21. My friends think I’m crazy when i say I have no interest in visiting NYC or Sam Fran. Greatest cities with the worst politics.

    That said, this article felt like it ran off a cliff without an ending.

  22. Dotard actually has a lot more in common with his fellow New Yorkers then his brethren would like to admit. He is just as anti gun as they are and his propensities to disregard the constitution is very much in line with De Blasio etc.

    1. Yeah, sounds like you have a real affinity for the BoR……

  23. In New York, all politics are national.

    This is the case whenever someone is living a locally unsustainable lifestyle. They have to take what they need from others because their lifestyle does not produce enough to support themselves.

    I truly appreciate the first shot over the bow of not allowing state taxes to be deducted. It’s a tiny step on the road to local sustainability. And no, I’m not saying you have to produce everything you consume. I’m saying you have to either produce what you consume or pay market rates for what you consume, not take it by force wielded by a government.

  24. New Yorkers’ protest is very largely the protest of the powerless. De Blasio’s liberal nostrums–rent control, ever-expanding bureaucracy, etc.–are counterproductive and entirely irrelevant to the country as a whole, and only functional in NYC because of the unending gusher of Wall Street cash that pays for it all. As long as Wall Street keeps pumping out the cash, New York will never change, and why should it? New Yorkers don’t even have to worry about crime any more. The homicide rate in New York in 2017 was 3.4 percent, compared to 7.2 in Jeff Sessions’ Alabama. Why should New Yorkers listen to rednecks?

    1. Re: Alan Vanneman,

      New Yorkers’ protest is very largely the protest of the powerless.

      You started with this assertion yet you never bother to defend its merits in the rest of your post. You’re certainly not speaking Ex Cathedra so what makes you think your words should be taken as illuminated truth?

      1. You’re certainly not speaking Ex Cathedra so what makes you think your words should be taken as illuminated truth?

        If you’re even remotely familiar with the news cycle, you’re being generous. NY’s murder numbers are being touted as historically/exceptionally low while Alabama’s (a state he presumably chose at random) are at historic highs.

        (A bit) Like saying if the Yankees are such a great baseball club, why has it been 8 yrs. since their last trip to the World Series while the Cubs has only been 2?

        1. You’re even remotely familiar with the facts. For one thing, I chose Alabama because it’s Jeff Sessions’ home state. As for Alabama murders, the numbers, and thus the rates, have been bouncing around a lot. In 2001 there were 379; in 2004, 254; in 2007, 412; in 2016, 407. So 2016 is “high”, but not unprecedented. In New York City, the number has dropped a lot since 2001 (648), bouncing around a lot thereafter, but never higher than 534, in 2010, and staying below 400 since 2011, before reaching the dramatic low of 290 in 2016.

      2. Yes I am speaking ex cathedra, because I’m sittin’ in the damn chair! Republicans control the presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court. Liberals, esp. New York liberals, are out of power, and out of ideas that can command a majority west of the Hudson, which is a river.

        1. Liberals, esp. New York liberals, are out of power

          The President of the United States is a New York liberal.

          1. Yeah but he’s one of the almost sane ones from like the 70s/80s/90s or something. There is a real and valid difference between people like Bill Clinton in the 1990s and Nancy Pelosi in 2018. I’d prefer somebody that’s actually good to Bill Clinton, but if Clinton or Pelosi are my only choices, I’d pick Clinton in a heart beat. He was actually a semi sane and pragmatic lefty when he was in office. Can you imagine Obama signing off on some of the bipartisan reforms Clinton did in the 90s? Hell no!

    2. “Why should New Yorkers listen to rednecks?”

      Why should rednecks or anyone else listen to New Yorkers?

      It’s not like anyone in New York has actually accomplished anything that proves that they are any smarter than rednecks or anyone else.

      1. Hey now, they did manage to crash the global economy in 2007/2008! I’ve never seen a hard working redneck destroy the entire global financial system! LOL

    3. New Yorkers’ protest is very largely the protest of the powerless

      On the contrary, their protest is that of the powerful having some of that power taken away.

  25. Love him or hate him, Trump personifies the old, pre-1990s NYC, back when it was a gritty and dangerous (yet fun) place, and you kinda had to be an asshole to survive-though perhaps not as big of an asshole as Trump. DiBlasio is the touchy-feely, spoiled brat, metrosexual face of NYC. Waaaaah! fossil fuels are killing the planet so we are going to sue the bastards!!! I would like to see NYC survive one winter day with no oil or gas to heat its buildings, or power the planes that fly millions of tourists there.

    1. There’s plenty of bullshit to burn.

      1. Truth.

        And are liberal tears flammable? They have plenty of those nowadays too!

  26. That night the Empire State Building was lit up green.

    I wonder how much fossil fuel was burned to light the Virtue Signal?

    1. But that’s different!

  27. There has been one sided political resistance on both sides of the Isle and it has been equally bad. Obviously, the parties have set it up that way. Is Americans are led to believe we have a choice in the matter when in truth we don’t. The election for example, the way political funding is set up, the RNC and the DNC, lobbyist etc…we the people have no choices.one one side …
    We had a dude who is a Millionaire, knows nothing about physical labor, had three wives and a porn star his religious base looked over… And on the other side we had a big money Den who at one point sat on the board of wal mart.
    Both “choices ” sucked and Americans had no choice because of the DNC and RNC and lobbyist.
    Voting this time was like choosing between which turd was less crappy.

  28. Voting this time was like choosing between which turd was less crappy.

    This is how it has been every time I have voted since 1992, so I have finally decided to kick the voting habit starting with this election.

  29. Yet more campaigning for Trump’s reelection.

  30. I’ve enjoyed watching Matt since he moved to NYC, slowly becoming what many native-ny’rs are: strangers in their own city.

    Normally it takes people about 5-10 years for the scale of the stupidity to become apparent. I think he’s ahead of the curve, slightly.

    but i think people would be wrong to think that the stereotype park-slope retards (e.g. your real estate broker example) are representative of the total. There are “conservative” new yorkers, and there are also the Trump + Giuliani types. Its just that they eventually grow tired of complaining / fighting against the mass of largely-imported progressive-liberal idiots who run the place, and leave.

    1. I live in Seattle, and I will still totally talk politics with commies. Sometimes I ever convince them because I’m a pretty decent debater, and far better educated than any of them. That said, I would NEVER have the balls to put bumper stickers on my car, signs in my windows etc nowadays. There is a 110% chance you would get vandalized. I did put up Ron Paul signs back in 2008, but things were a lot less crazy back then. I’d never do that now for fear of my house being burned down or something.

  31. Matt clearly hasn’t read the Democratic People’s Party Platform of 2016. According to their demands, Noo Yawk would have the same generating capacity as the People’s State of Puerto Rico. It would look like New York as seen from John Galt’s plane in the closing lines of Atlas Shrugged–or on the evening news in 1965, complete with looting!
    Making electricity a Schedule 1 controlled substance was the ONLY real difference between the Dem platform and that of their GOP rivals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdF-CsxqDko

  32. We’d be so much better if we could surgically remove NYC from New York State.

  33. NYC is not really an operating democracy. Based on voter turnout De Blasio was elected by 17% of the voters. Landers and others routinely are put in place unopposed. The voters no longer care, the political money isn’t even from the US. A Congress person or other elected official who isn’t in their job for life is probably headed off to prison or fleeing the country. Every mayor since Ed Koch is a world class narcissist dictator. NYC has more in common administratively with Luanda Angola than it does with other American cities. It’s not even grand enough for massive corruption like Chicago. It’s just chislers and crooks tearing off their little piece.

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  35. Good. Let NYC divest itself of all oil-related holdings. Then let them figure out how to pay for stuff without the money they’re used to playing around with. And then ….

  36. Not all of NYC believes this way

    I know, I have enough friends who agree & vote still for our US President TRUMP

    SO New York to President TRUMP: drop dead

    this is a huge BS deception!!!

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