Rep. Franks Will Resign After Proposing Surrogacy to Staff, L.A. Wildfire Now Twice the Size of D.C., Melania's Ideal Christmas Is On a Deserted Island: A.M. Links

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  Arizona Republican Rep. Trent Franks has announced that he will leave Congress at the end of January 2018 following the revelation that he asked two former staffers to carry a baby for him and his wife.

• Wildfires continue to rage up and down the California coast, with blazes breaking out from north of Los Angeles down to San Diego. "The largest of the blazes…is now more than twice the size of Washington, D.C. and showing no signs of slowing," reported CNN this morning.
• "Bipartisanship, 2017"–expect a lot more congressional sexual harassment scandals soon.
• Melania Trump told tykes at the Children's National Hospital Thursday that if she could spend Christmas anywhere, it would be with her family "on a deserted island."
• A Philadelphia man convicted of two counts of sex trafficking was just sentenced to 100 years in prison.
• Anti-sexual-harassment consultants for corporate holiday parties are now a thing.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Arizona Republican Rep. Trent Franks has announced that he will leave Congress at the end of January 2018 following the revelation that he asked two former staffers to carry a baby for him and his wife.

That's a me too?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

"Melania Trump told tykes at the Children's National Hospital Thursday that if she could spend Christmas anywhere, it would be with her family "on a deserted island."

Monster.

Seriously. I don't get it. Who gives a shit? I went to power read the article and kept looking for the Norm MacDonald hook and got pure shit. I'm not in a good mood today - my daughter ate the last Honeycrisp - so explain me the point of this useless article and why it was linked to?

The USA just had eight years of two pure ignoramuses in sitting in TWH so maybe people should just chill a little.

[Bee Tagger]

So you want the news websites to just respond with 404s when there's no news???

[Rufus The Monocled]

Well, it would be less insulting.

/slap!

[Rich]

*slap!*

[Rufus The Monocled]

And just in case you all forgot what kind of egotistical know-nothing Obama was:

"...That's what happened in Germany in the 1930s, which despite the democracy of the Weimar Republic and centuries of high-level cultural and scientific achievements, Adolph Hitler rose to dominate, Obama noted. "Sixty million people died. . . .So, you've got to pay attention. And vote."

There he is. In all his magnificent mediocrity. Not only did he misinterpret the Weimar Republic (because he's a left-wing ignoramus) he seemed to make this calculus: Trump = 60 million dead.

He sounds EXACTLY like the remedial kid in class with too much self-esteem who thought he knew stuff but knew nothing yet still raised his arm to spew his nonsense in class.

Obama. NOT GONE ENOUGH.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com.....omplacency

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Who gives a shit?

[Zeb]

It's probably all Bush's fault.

[Calidissident]

Good thing we don't have an egotistical know-nothing in the White House anymore!

(And before the inevitable replies, no this is not a defense of Obama)

[BYODB]

A good point, I'd say, although I would say that it's at least debatable if Trump knows more than Obama since Trump has at least held down a job that didn't involve being in Government for the majority of his life.

It's just splitting hairs though, they both seem pretty pig ignorant.

[Tony]

Trump's already gumming his way to WWIII with his deranged sop to millenarian wackos, or phase 37 of his "we hate Muslims" agenda. You'd think any sane person would long for the relatively stable presence of Obama.

[MarkLastname]

WW3? With who? Russia? I thought he was too cozy with them?

And I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of people who died in the Syrian and Libyan civil Wars are very grateful to Barack for the global stability he gave them.

[BYODB]

HA, that's some ignorant shit. The people of Germany literally elected Nazi's on purpose. What a buffoon.

[JuanQPublic]

Agreed. Who cares what Melania Trump said about a personal preference. Was this supposed to indicate or imply something?

[Jerryskids]

She didn't say "deserted island", she said "desserted island" and the dessert in question was halo-halo. With ketchup.

[Tony]

Imagine how annoyed you'd be if Michelle Obama had said that.

You know you'd care.

[MarkLastname]

No, I think most of us would be saying we too wish she'd spend Christmas on a deserted island.

[Entelechy]

The First Lady's wish has been granted-- Queens is definitely on an island, and the Hamptons are deserted this time of year.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

"Bipartisanship, 2017"?expect a lot more congressional sexual harassment scandals soon.

When everyone is a harasser, no one will be.

[JuanQPublic]

And this is how all the good from the movement will eventually be wiped away: by diluting the meaning of words, they will not be effective anymore.

[Citizen X - #6]

Arizona Republican Rep. Trent Franks has announced that he will leave Congress at the end of January 2018 following the revelation that he asked two former staffers to carry a baby for him and his wife.

It's not that he asked, it's the method he proposed.

[Rhywun]

I wonder if there is a news source where I can discover why this is outrageous so I don't have to comb through f-----g twitter nonsense.

[Arizona_Guy]

Agreed. Too many of my news feeds think Twatter is 'news'

Side note: Franks will just get replaced with another Team Red guy.

[Rhywun]

I can't decide if our hosts do this to attract the short-attention-span crowd or to piss us off.

[Citizen X - #6]

Both. It's the Links, so it's a two-birds-one-stone situation.

Except when Britches does it. Then it is absolutely an expression of disdain for the commentariat.

[Kivlor]

According to his resignation letter, he merely discussed the troubles he and his wife were having, and the method for surrogacy they were seeking to use. Apparently that made 2 women "uncomfortable" and so he is resigning. According to him, he didn't ask them to be surrogates. He also says that both children are biologically his and his wife's, and the plan for a 3rd is to be the same, so no issue with the "method" should really have come up.

I can't see why I'd resign if 2 women in my office said "Kivlor was talking about X and it made us uncomfortable" so I'm not sure I buy the story. It was going to be investigated by the Ethics committee and he pre-empted the investigation by resigning.

[Kivlor]

Full Text of Resignation here.

I've read 3 articles on this, and it seems there are no accusations other than "he talked about he and his wife's surrogacy issues and that made me uncomfortable" at this time.

[HazelMeade]

Yeah, this seems like 'My boss discussed an awkward subject and that made me feel uncomfortable."
Fuck that. I mean, some subjects are inherently awkward. It's like if you got in a discussion about breastfeeding problems and a male co-worker said that made him feel "uncomfortable" would that be sexual harassment? WTF?

[lafe.long]

It's like if you got in a discussion about breastfeeding problems and a male co-worker said that made him feel "uncomfortable" would that be sexual harassment?

As near as I can tell, absolutely yes.

[MarkLastname]

It makes me wonder what people are going to be losing their jobs over 5 or 10 years from now. Saying chicken *breast*? Sneezing without covering your mouth?

[mad.casual]

It's like if you got in a discussion about breastfeeding problems and a male co-worker said that made him feel "uncomfortable" would that be sexual harassment? WTF?

To be honest, I completely understand the desire to have this covered under sexual harassment/assault. Not because I'm averse to breasts or even discussions about female anatomy or whatever but because of the sheer volume of discussion and/or women's ability to lament about such things anywhere and everywhere without any sense of decorum. I can't imagine that there aren't some women out there who've sat through a lunch discussion about episiotomies or a loud discussion about unknown genital itches (about which they have no clue) who feel the same way. The fact that it doesn't even really apply to these discussions (AFAIK/CT) is just proof that equality is the guise or is only de jure.

However, I don't think the Congressman began every morning or even one day a week asking them to be surrogates.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Melania Trump told tykes at the Children's National Hospital Thursday that if she could spend Christmas anywhere, it would be "on a deserted island."

Agreed. That Santa creeping around inside your house while you're asleep? Better to be somewhere he can't find you.

[Citizen X - #6]

Young Fist never got over the time he caught Mommy "kissing" Santa Claus and a couple of big elves and what might have been Rudolph.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Santa's BMI is atrocious.

[Timrekgrun]

BUT when he's all lubed up he can slip into anything...like your mom.

[Trigger Warning]

So, Santa has John's preferred body type?

[Citizen X - #6]

Melania Trump told tykes at the Children's National Hospital Thursday that if she could spend Christmas anywhere, it would be with her family "on a deserted island."

You know, she's really growing on me as First Lady.

[Bee Tagger]

Yes, appearing to sincerely not care much for the role has been endearing.

[Rhywun]

I've seen this story like a dozen times and I guess I'm supposed to be Outraged! but I can't figure out why.

[Bee Tagger]

There it is, you've found your outrage. It's always the last place you look.

[Zeb]

So it's supposed to be a bad thing?

[Rhywun]

The media seem to think so, otherwise why is it a headline.

[Hank Stamper]

I think it is confirmation to them of an earlier story that she denied regarding her not wanting Donald to run. Why that is an issue I have no idea other then some leap of faith that it means that Trump doesn't care about womyn because he didn't respect his wife enough to not run for president.

[Citizen X - #6]

He didn't listen to his wife AND he robbed Hillary of Her Turn. Truly, he is a misogynistic monster.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

It's Melania's way of saying #metoo and #everyfuckingday.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A Philadelphia man convicted of two counts of sex trafficking was just sentenced to 100 years in prison.

Like being a Philacrapia man isn't punishment enough.

[Celexis]

I prefer the term 'Filthadelphia'

[Anomalous]

His pimp hand was strong.

[Mithrandir]

Melania Trump told tykes at the Children's National Hospital Thursday that if she could spend Christmas anywhere, it would be "on a deserted island."

Good shout that.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Anti-sexual-harassment consultants for corporate holiday parties are now a thing.

Check with the office zampolit before making that off-color toast.

[Arizona_Guy]

Mildly related:

At work, in a new employee introduction email, someone listed their "hobbies" as "smashing the patriarchy"

I don't give a shit about your pet social causes and conspiracy theories, I just want to do my job.

[Ska]

It just means she loves to smash; she's advertising her sexuality.

[Number 2]

File a harassment complaint against her and say that her anti-male bigotry makes you "uncomfortable." I'm sure she'll be fired on the spot.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

I don't think Operation Titty Twister is applicable to the workplace.

[Citizen X - #6]

"Bipartisanship, 2017"?expect a lot more congressional sexual harassment scandals soon.

What will not once be acknowledged is that the common denominator is the wielding of power.

[I am the 0.000000013%]

sad

[Bee Tagger]

Melania Trump told tykes at the Children's National Hospital Thursday that if she could spend Christmas anywhere, it would be with her family "on a deserted island."

With her husband, Robinson Crudesoe

[sarcasmic]

'Please don't kill me': Cop is cleared of murder after shooting dead a sobbing father, 26, as he crawled along a hotel corridor in shocking footage which his family insists shows a 'cold-blooded execution'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....oting.html

"While standing in full body armor with a rifle I feared for my life from an unarmed man who was crawling across the floor begging me not to kill him! Woe is me!"

[colorblindkid]

But he was white, so nobody cares.

[Arizona_Guy]

He should have used his white privilege.

[HazelMeade]

You know, for a bunch of people who are constantly complain about bow BLM is quick to make every police shooting about race, you sure are quick to make this police shooting about race.

Cop shoots somebody... who isn't black ... so let's all talk about how racism isn't a thing and black people are just stupid and complaining about nothing and white people are totally not responsible for any of black people's problems, so there!!!

Maybe we could have a discussion that wen't more like cop shoots somebody, so let's talk about rules of engagement and criminal justice reform. Remember, just because someone else brings up race, doesn't mean you have to join that discussion and start getting your panties in a twist because someone impugned the reputation of the white race.

[Rhywun]

Dude, even the Atlantic (link below) has noted the discrepancy. Are you about to lecture the liberal press for dragging race into it?

[HazelMeade]

From the Atlantic article:
In debates that ensue, critics of Black Lives Matter often try to argue that African Americans are not in fact disproportionately victimized by police killings. Here is a representative example.

Rather than engage that debate, though, I want to argue that it is largely irrelevant. Even if Black Lives Matter critics were right that police killings in America are not racially suspect, that would not be a sufficient argument against police reforms. It would still remain the case that American police officers kill many more people overall??and many more unarmed and mentally ill people in particular??than do police officers in other democratic countries.

That's exactly my point. Engaging in a debate about whether its unfair to white people or cops to blame the killings on racism, is a distraction from the more important work of police reform.

But instead of using BLM as a motivation to advance the cause of criminal justice reform, we see white people getting defensive because they for some reason feel that anyone mentioning that racism still exists is a personal attack on them ... or something. Nevermind the fellow travellers who actually oppose criminal justice reform and support the police. So we end up with a bunch of people basically changing the subject to how black people commit more crime and deserve greater police scrutiny and so the cops are totally blameless.

[HazelMeade]

Italics got screwed up. The last two paragraphs are mine.

[Rhywun]

But instead of using BLM as a motivation to advance the cause of criminal justice reform,

They weren't too supportive of "All Lives Matter" as I recall.

Look, I get it. But the point stands that the media are driving the narrative. You can shout until you're blue in the face and that won't change the fact that the media turn everything into a discussion of race.

[Procyon Rotor]

BLM can't be used to advance the cause of criminal justice reform. When you misdiagnose a problem, any solution you propose will fail. Any reform movement that stands a chance of success has to proceed from an accurate understanding that race is not a relevant factor.

[Arizona_Guy]

Maybe we could have a discussion that wen't more like cop shoots somebody, so let's talk about rules of engagement and criminal justice reform.

I think we all agree on that part.

[Arizona_Guy]

'There are no winners in this case, but Mitch Brailsford had to make a split-second decision on a situation that he was trained to recognize as someone drawing a weapon and had one second to react,' Piccarreta said. "

No winners, except the guy who got away with murder. I find it amazing that cops have more lenient RoE than soldiers overseas.

Shaver's widow, Laney Sweet, and Shaver's parents have filed wrongful-death lawsuits against the city of Mesa over the shooting death.

So the taxpayers of Mesa will be on the hook.

[sarcasmic]

Makes me think of when I worked in food service, the mantra was "When in doubt, throw it out" meaning that if you weren't sure if the food was good or not, toss it in the trash.

Seems that in policing the mantra is "When in doubt, kill" meaning that if they feel threatened in the slightest bit, use deadly force.

In both cases you do this knowing you won't be punished. Because in food service happy customers are the number one priority, and in law enforcement officer safety and total compliance are the number one priorities. In food service you want your customers to come back, even if that means throwing away good food once in a while. And in law enforcement you want the officers to come home safely, even if that means committing murder once in a while.

[Griffin3]

Yeah, with an autoplay video, too. Lemme just barf up my breakfast, thanks.

[Arizona_Guy]

Related:

police-killing-without-a-hint-of-racism

[I am the 0.000000013%]

I remember when the saying was "Never hit a man when he's down. Kick him, it's easier". I guess progress has made that saying moot.

[Eidde]

"Prosecutors...say Graham and three others forced a number of young women into prostitution, threatening and torturing them repeatedly."

If so, then 100 years doesn't sound so bad, necessarily.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The largest of the blazes... is now more than twice the size of Washington, D.C. and showing no signs of slowing...

Unlike Washington, D.C.

[sarcasmic]

Blaze is the right size, but in the wrong place.

[Brian]

We have to make sure we frame information like this in ways that our national leaders can understand. Otherwise, they just can't understand the county they drive.

[Bee Tagger]

he asked two former staffers to carry a baby for him and his wife.

Next time just leave the baby in the car if people can't be bothered to help out when your hands are full carrying groceries.

[Bee Tagger]

And yes, all of those are euphemisms.

[Rhywun]

Anti-sexual-harassment consultants for corporate holiday parties are now a thing.

Too bad for them that corporate holiday parties are not a thing any more.

[mad.casual]

We are throwing a party in honor of your tremendous success. Place the device on the ground and lie on your stomach with your hands at your sides. A party associate will collect you shortly for your party. Make no further attempts to leave the employment center. Assume the party escort submission position or you will miss the party.

[Citizen X - #6]

lie on your stomach with your hands at your sides... Assume the party escort submission position

This could lead to a couple of very different types of party.

[Arizona_Guy]

No crawling though. That will get you shot.

[mad.casual]

This could lead to a couple of very different types of party.

Rest assured, that there is absolutely no chance of a dangerous equipment malfunction prior to your victory candescence.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Wildfires continue to rage up and down the California coast, with blazes breaking out from north of Los Angeles down to San Diego.

California finally suffering for the sins of Hollywood's portrayal of African Americans in the media.

[I am the 0.000000013%]

Shaft!

[Just Say'n]

"asked two former staffers to carry a baby for him and his wife."

Unless there is more to this story, I think it's safe to say that #metoo has jumped the shark

[Rhywun]

"Mistletoe at Grand Central Terminal is shockingly tone-deaf"

You think? I'm actually surprised it's gone so far off the rails so quickly. They better hurry up and knock down a few more Congressmen and actors before the public moves on to some other outrage.

[Citizen X - #6]

Right? Think of all the aesir who are going to be triggered by such a reminder of Baldur's untimely death.

[Charles Easterly]

Nicely done, X.

Happy Frey/Freyja's Day to you.

[JuanQPublic]

No moral panic to see here. Move along.

[JuanQPublic]

NY Post:

A plan to invite some holiday cheer around Grand Central Terminal is just as likely to invite creeps to plant kisses on total strangers, some New York women told The Post on Thursday.

...holiday decorations that encourage people to channel their inner Al Frakenns was blasted...

..."Putting this up, you're asking for trouble."...

Upper East Side resident Jenny Perolta, 24, put it more bluntly. "Yeah it's the holidays, but get the hell away from me. No one said you can kiss me."

"Frakenns."

[Rhywun]

Gee, that totally unbiased "(wo)man on the street" tactic never gets old.

[colorblindkid]

He had two kids through a surrogate already, since his wife can't carry naturally. Incredibly awkward and inappropriate workplace behavior? Sure. Sexual harrassment? Unless he threatened them or asked if he could impregnate them himself, absolutely not.

I kinda feel bad for the guy.

[Rhywun]

Incredibly awkward and inappropriate workplace behavior?

Assuming the women complained about to HR, sure. I can imagine a scenario where they didn't but HR got wind of it anyway.

[mad.casual]

Incredibly awkward and inappropriate workplace behavior? Sure.

I didn't necessarily assume it was done at the workplace and, maybe falsely, working under the presumption of innocence, did assume that the incidents went more along the lines of dinner after months if not years of employment, questions about family and parenting, then discussions about social awkwardness and mutual understanding ultimately followed by an eventual broaching of the question from both of them. Rather than shoving them into a broom closet and insisting that they carry his child right now.

I mean the latter scenario is totally feasible, it just seems a waste to use such a plausible cover on such a blatantly assault-y situation.

[Arizona_Guy]

I'm curious if there is more, and he's just trying to exit gracefully.

[Stoic]

My guess would be he was trying to keep it out of the news to the extent possible for his family's privacy.

[I am the 0.000000013%]

He's in a completely safe district (from what I can tell reading Wikipedia), and he came from the private sector. My guess is it just wasn't worth it to him anymore and decided to get out of the cesspool when he could.

He might even give the GOP some virtue points for going without making excuses...

[Rhywun]

He's just trying to one-up Franken.

/totally expect to see this in the lefty media

[Sevo]

"Unless there is more to this story, I think it's safe to say that #metoo has jumped the shark"

Unless he "asked" with a gun or a pink-slip in his hand, that's my impression.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

He stepped down before any allegations were even made public. There's definitely more to the story, though so far we only have the suggestion of "retaliation."

[Aloysious]

Ask Amy Crusty

I don't know what do to anymore. My wife of 16 years, whom I love dearly, is not the same person I married. She is prone to mood swings and goes off on our two children or myself at any moment over the smallest things.

Just when I think that things are improving, another episode occurs that sets our lives back.

She has admitted that she's in a rut. I suggested she go talk to a counselor ? but nothing. I suggested we go together to counseling ? again, nothing.

When I try to diligently bring up these concerns, it leads to an argument and no resolution. I'm afraid to ask one of her friends to address this with her for fear of the backlash that could come from it.

What should I do?

Helpless

[$park? leftist poser]

Keep slapping her until her mood improves.

[I am the 0.000000013%]

Women cant' resist that frankenluvin. Ya gotta put the moves on baby...

[Sevo]

Guy can't seem to make a pizza well enough to stay in business, so the SF taxpayer is on the hook:

"Slice of culinary history: pizza destination Tommaso's gets legacy status"
[...]
"Companies on the registry become eligible for yearly grants ? $500 per full-time employee ? and property owners who provide the businesses with 10-year or longer leases can receive rent stabilization grants."
http://www.sfchronicle.com/new.....ate-result

And you can be assured that none of the business owners ever contributed to one of the supervisors' election campaigns. Nope. Never.

[Rhywun]

Places that have been open for at least 30 years and have contributed to their neighborhood's history can apply

LOL that's not at all vague.

[Rich]

"Why, just *look* at that accumulating graffiti!"

[Sevo]

"LOL that's not at all vague."

Not at all vague:
"Did you contribute to the campaign of the sitting supervisor? If 'yes', why it's obvious!"

[Sevo]

Lefty writer shocked that companies might use tax savings in different ways:

"Home Depot shows how corporate America may have other plans for tax savings"
[...]
"With unemployment low and demand for new homes high, a company like Home Depot could be spending its surplus billions on raises for workers or the rollout of new stores.
Instead, the world's largest home improvement chain this week announced that it is using $15 billion to buy back shares of its own stock, a move that will reward shareholders, including CEO Craig Menear and other top executives."
http://www.sfgate.com/business.....414351.php

Darn management, helping the retirement funds of idiots like the writer! What are they thinking of?

[Rhywun]

A lot of workers own stock in their companies. I guess this won't help them, just fatcats.

To be sure, several corporations, including AT&T and CVS Health, have publicly touted plans to funnel tax savings into spending on equipment or hiring.

To be sure. But let's pick on Home Depot some more!

[mad.casual]

Calling Home Depot employees 'workers' isn't satire?

[buddhastalin]

Over half of Americans own some amount of stock, and many hold shares in broad market funds. So anytime a big company's stock does well, it's probable that a large number of ordinary Americans have benefited in some way.

[Brian]

Politicians are genuinely creepy people.

At least bizarre rich people don't pretend it's all about "serving everyone else."

I'll believe that government is all about helping people when laws get rid of politicians.

[Hank Stamper]

Pope to change the Lord's Prayer (Our Father)

"Do not let me fall into temptation because it is I who fall, it is not God who throws me into temptation and then sees how I fell," he told TV2000, an Italian Catholic TV channel.

Job's response - Go fuck yourself.

[mad.casual]

"And lead us, not into temptation"

Stupid left pope! Reread the playbook, you just insert a comma and then pick and choose which clause matters.

[lafe.long]

"Do not let me fall into temptation because it is I who fall, it is not God who throws me into temptation and then sees how I fell,"

Is that a google translation from italian? That sentence is awkward as fuck.

[Rebel Scum]

OT: About to be another "snowmagedon" here in Virginny.

It's a good excuse to leave work extra early. Too bad I have a couple deadline to attend to first.

*sigh*

[Citizen X - #6]

Not here in the Tidewater - 37 degrees and raining. Which reminds me, i need to pick up some more liquor on the way home.

[Rebel Scum]

I'm south side of Richmond. Supposed to be a decent amount (for va...) here. Everyone else is getting milk and bread. I just need to pick up wine.

[Rhywun]

Rats. We're not getting it in NYC until tomorrow morning.

[loveconstitution1789]

Snowmagedon is nothing. In Georgia we are having snowpocalypse 2.0 today

[Rebel Scum]

Arizona Republican Rep. Trent Franks has announced that he will leave Congress at the end of January 2018 following the revelation that he asked two former staffers to carry a baby for him and his wife.

Heard about this on the way in. Doesn't seem like resign material. But maybe I'm missing context. Idk.

[Rebel Scum]

"Bipartisanship, 2017"?expect a lot more congressional sexual harassment scandals soon.

They're dropping like flies.

[I am the 0.000000013%]

Horny flies

[Rebel Scum]

Anti-sexual-harassment consultants for corporate holiday parties are now a thing.

One thing about the Civil Engineering / Construction industry is that people tend to have a good sense of humor*.

I assume many instances of "assault" have to do with off color jokes of a sexual nature, what with how loose the definition is these days.

[Rebel Scum]

Melania Trump told tykes at the Children's National Hospital Thursday that if she could spend Christmas anywhere, it would be with her family "on a deserted island."

Media meltdown about insensitivity to needed children in 3...2...1...

[Tony]

Unlike the cousinfucking literal assholes that are the core of the Republican party, we liberals don't treat Melania Trump as some kind of nonhuman monstrosity. She's a victim, like everyone else who ever met Donald Trump. And I like her Xmas decor.

[Rebel Scum]

cousinfucking literal assholes that are the core of the Republican party

Just when I was forgetting how "tolerant" proggies are...

[Tony]

Once again, I never claimed to be tolerant of cousinfucking retards who are hellbent on destroying humanity through sheer stupidity and tribal spite. That would be you.

[Rebel Scum]

sheer stupidity and tribal spite

Look in the mirror.

[loveconstitution1789]

He cant see himself in the mirror. He's a bloodsucking socialist.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Unlike the cousinfucking literal assholes

You're projecting so hard here you could put up a screen and charge admission.

[mad.casual]

Focus! The projection, the insults, the commentary... all of it. Focus!

*Throws popcorn at Tony*

[Tony]

I say cousinfucking affectionately. It's not really my business what you do to your family's gene pool. Natural selection has a way of working these things out.

[I am the 0.000000013%]

She used her rather excellent looks to land a billion dollar lifestyle. What a terrible story of victimhood.

[Tony]

Well there are no indications yet she's going to prison like most of the other people in his orbit, so she's got that going for her.

[HazelMeade]

I'm unclear as to what is supposed to be so offensive about discussing surrogacy, assuming he wasn't pressuring the women into becoming surrogates. It shouldn't be any wierder than having a clinical discussion about abortion or any other medical topic involving female baby-making parts.

Asking them to become surrogates would be questionable, but it's kind of a bit like asking people to become organ donors for a friend or family member. It's a wierd, kind of uncomfortable topic, maybe inapproriate for a boss to discuss with subordinates, but NOTHING like pressuring them for sex.

[Tony]

A gestating human inserted into one's body is arguably even more invasive than an unwanted penis.

[Crusty Juggler]

Is asking invasive?

[Tony]

I'd need to know the specifics, but I specifically don't want to know them.

[Citizen X - #6]

I'd need to know the specifics, but I specifically don't want to know them.

Please note, this disclaimer should come standard on every single Tony comment.

[Rebel Scum]

You don't need specifics when you can just assume that anyone who disagrees with you on any particular topic is just a cousin-fucking 'tard that's trying to destroy the world. Simple Tony is simple.

[HazelMeade]

So is removal of an organ, but is there a general prohibition on asking people to become organ donors?

By analogy, I had a friend who got Hep C and died of liver failure. Shortly before his death, his closest friends were calling literally everyone they knew who had ever known him to find someone with type O blood to beg them to donate a part of their liver. Inappropriate?

[I am the 0.000000013%]

Are you speaking from first hand knowledge about having an unwanted penis?

[Tony]

There's a spectrum from wanted to unwanted.

[Rebel Scum]

Point is that it was 1) a request and 2) a request for surrogacy. Surrogate pregnancies are not exactly uncommon and women are compensated for doing the job. But you're a disingenuous partisan hack so you can't comprehend this.

[Crusty Juggler]

Yo girl, you want my sperms in you?

[lafe.long]

Father fatally shoots robber who pointed gun at family in Texas restaurant

San Antonio police Sgt. Roy Miller says the gunman threatened the father and restaurant employees and the employees ran out the back of the restaurant. The gunman demanded money and, when the father refused, the gunman turned his weapon toward the man's family. At that point, the father, who is licensed to carry a firearm, pulled out his own gun and fired.

[loveconstitution1789]

Beverly Young Nelson admitted to ABC News that she added "notes" beneath what she says is Roy Moore's signature in her high school yearbook ? an inscription that she and famed attorney Gloria Allred presented as proof the then-30-something Moore sought an inappropriate relationship with her in the late 1970s. The "notes" below the signature appear to be the handwritten date and location. Nelson still insisted that Moore wrote most of the message.
Uh oh. Roy Moore's "14 year old" accuser admitted to lying.

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