Trump Blames Terrorist Attack on Chuck Schumer, Notre Dame to Drop Contraception Coverage, Cops Fail at Halloween Photoshop: A.M. Links

• New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced this morning that a note found at the scene of last night's New York City attack references the Islamic State.
• Donald Trump is blaming the NYC attack on U.S. immigration policies he attributes to New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer. "The terrorist came into our country through what is called the 'Diversity Visa Lottery Program,' a Chuck Schumer beauty," Trump tweeted Wednesday morning. "I want merit based." (The program was approved in 1990 and signed into law by George H.W. Bush.)
• Americans have a lot of terrible ideas about free speech.

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• The University of Notre Dame is the first prominent organization to announce that it will cease to cover birth-control under its health-insurance plans following the Trump administration's rollback of the Obamacare contraception mandate.
• A USA Today headline invites people to "read the names" of 57 men the FBI helped take down for attempting to have consensual sex with another adult.
• Twitter is expected to soon roll out 280-character posting capabilities for all users.
• The feds are interfering with Maine's new food sovereignty law.
• A study out of Chile suggests "20 percent of currently-enrolled poor students will lose seats to wealthier students under a free-tuition policy that fixes capacity."
• Lol:

So the sheriff just tweeted this picture with extra children badly photoshopped into it, and I'm at a loss pic.twitter.com/83xOq7M0s2

— BrokenSocialistScene (@acekatana) October 31, 2017

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Donald Trump is blaming the NYC attack on U.S. immigration policies he attributes to New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer.

I’d say the news cycle just shifted away from indictments.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

“Donald Trump is blaming the NYC attack on U.S. immigration policies he attributes to New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer. “The terrorist came into our country through what is called the ‘Diversity Visa Lottery Program,’ a Chuck Schumer beauty,” Trump tweeted Wednesday morning. “I want merit based.” (The program was approved in 1990 and signed into law by George H.W. Bush.)”

And?

Is he right or wrong?

[jcw]

You ask much of a blog post with a list of links.

[Fuck =><= sevo]

Does he? There was plenty of room for the useless parenthetical.

[jcw]

Yes, he does.

[Longtobefree]

Trump does want merit based.
The terrorist did come in on a diversity visa.
Chuck Schumer was the sponsor of the bill in 1990.
But, I am pretty sure Chuck has an alibi.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Oh boy can’t wait to see how Politifact measures this one!

[Chinny Chin Chin]

Especially, as Jeff Flake pointed out, Schumer was part of the Gang of 8 that tried to do away with that visa in 2013.

So Moobs was for it before he was against it.

[damikesc]

Which would be irrelevant here as he was here 3 years earlier.

And the Gang of Eight just wanted to basically open the doors anyway.

I cannot wait until Flake’s term is over and Reason can stop pretending to take the dufus seriously.

[Rhywun]

If that’s the entire tweet, he’s right. The implication that “merit based” immigration – whatever that means – will prevent future acts of terrorism is laughable.

[Bubba Jones]

Perhaps the argument is that skilled workers who have to compete to get in will be less likely to be loser jihadists. Whereas refugees who find that the US is not paved with gold, while the women make them feel confused, might be easier to radicalize.

I find that a compelling argument, though obviously the rate of jihadism will not be zero.

[TW]

I’d say that Gillespie just won the governor’s race in Virginia. He may want to thank the Latino Victory Fund for releasing an attack ad that makes voters think of “trucks” right before they go to vote.

[Fist of Etiquette]

(The program was approved in 1990 and signed into law by George H.W. Bush.)

(You can’t blame pre-9/11 acts unless it’s Clinton!)

[Bee Tagger]

A study out of Chile

Not to be trusted. They clearly are warming denialists.

[$park? leftist poser]

It’s pronounced Cheelay now.

[Rhywun]

I am not a Cheelayan.

The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! CHILLY!!

[mad.casual]

It’s pronounced Cheelay now.

Sorry, Spanish was the first one I checked off under “Verbal accents I won’t bother to learn how to pronounce.” when applying for my white privilege. Even if I bother to pronounce it right, I’m still not actually doing it, just appropriating.

[BestUsedCarSales]

It’s for the best. None of the Mexican people I know care if you just pronounce it the American way and it sounds silly when you overpronounce the one word in the middle of your standard accented speech. People who over pronounce Nicaragua deserve mocking.

[damikesc]

People who over pronounce Nicaragua deserve mocking.

I avoid that by calling it “shithole”

[Fist of Etiquette]

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced this morning that a note found at the scene of last night’s New York City attack references the Islamic State.

Let’s not jump the gun. Could be a DC comics enthusiast.

[Rhywun]

I think his solo terrorist kit came with an ISIS flag, too.

[Bee Tagger]

Twitter is expected to soon roll out 280-character posting capabilities for all users.

I believe what they say about brevity is that it is, in fact, t’soul of t’wit.

[damikesc]

Nothing is needed more than idiots having double the space to post idiocy, I daresay.

[Eek Barba Durkle]

I didn’t realize how terrible Twitter is for public discourse until I recently started getting on there.

You can not make anything resembling an intellectual or fact-based argument in 140 characters. All you can do is talk shit, and be a total fucking asshole to people you largely don’t know.

In a month, I haven’t seen one single solitary lone thought-provoking or credible argument. Just “white people are animals”, “not being progressive is the same as joining the Hitler Youth” and “Republicans sold the country to Putin because they wants all the blacks and browns dead or in chains.”

And that’s from the local sports anchors and coffee shops.

[damikesc]

Twitter is just fucking terrible. Jon Stewart killed televised political coverage into nothing but irritating snark and Twitter has killed written discourse into a search for a hot “take”. It’s the fucking worst thing.

[Bubba Jones]

Jon Stewart was only funny if you had no prior knowledge of whatever he was talking about. Sadly, he was hilarious when you had no prior knowledge.

Thus came the destroyer.

[CE]

The purpose of twitter is to turn humanity into ants, exchanging small bits of information and passing short messages along.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Americans have a lot of terrible ideas about free speech.

BURNING THINGS IS A LITERAL FIRE HAZARD.

[Bee Tagger]

Imagine the constitutional crisis if this were to happen in a crowded movie theater.

[Longtobefree]

Only a problem if it is falsely yelled. It is free speech to yell fire in a crowded theater when there actually is a fire.

[Bee Tagger]

But then the fire department will extinguish my right to burn the flag. You’re not thinking this through.

[EscherEnigma]

Unless you own the movie theater, you don’t have the right to burn the flag there.

[Bee Tagger]

Next you’re going to tell me I can’t kneel in front of the fire exit.

[damikesc]

Only a problem if it is falsely yelled. It is free speech to yell fire in a crowded theater when there actually is a fire.

Unless it offends homosexual patrons (you know, “flaming” and all). Then, at least on colleges, you’d be expelled for not letting people die in a fire…

[colorblindkid]

Fun fact: One of the few bills Hillary actually sponsored as Senator was one to make flag-burning a federal crime with a minimum prison sentence.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The University of Notre Dame is the first prominent organization to announce that it will cease to cover birth-control under its health-insurance plans following the Trump administration’s rollback of the Obamacare contraception mandate.

Jesus freaks.

[$park? leftist poser]

Abortofacists

[Rhywun]

Great. Thanks for lighting the T–y signal.

[Bee Tagger]

Americans have a lot of terrible ideas about free speech.

And should shut up about them!

[Fist of Etiquette]

A USA Today headline invites people to “read the names” of 57 men the FBI helped take down for attempting to have consensual sex with another adult.

Too bad Saipov wasn’t a john; maybe the feds would have spent time on him.

[BestUsedCarSales]

No one in the FBI knows how to pronounce the names and is asking the public for help.

[Bee Tagger]

A USA Today headline invites people to “read the names” of 57 men the FBI helped take down

This feels like entrapment.

[$park? leftist poser]

A study out of Chile suggests “20 percent of currently-enrolled poor students will lose seats to wealthier students under a free-tuition policy that fixes capacity.”

Just because the pie is free doesn’t mean everyone gets a slice.

[damikesc]

Also, if it’s free, the value of the product is already expressed clearly.

[Dead inside]

Also Also…how can we blame this on white American males???????????

[BestUsedCarSales]

Well, it’s Chile so we can already blame it on whites.

[$park? leftist poser]

Americans have a lot of terrible ideas about free speech.

Burning the flag is hate speech, problem solved.

[Crusty Juggler]

I’m hella triggered by hate.

[Fist of Etiquette]

So the sheriff just tweeted this picture with extra children badly photoshopped into it, and I’m at a loss pic.twitter.com/83xOq7M0s2

? BrokenSocialistScene (@acekatana) October 31, 2017

In his defense, his deputy was also the photographer who, when told to shoot those two now-missing kids, reverted to training. So the sheriff needed to replacements on short notice. The costume shop where he got the kid uniforms had a web page and he had Microsoft Paint. Problem solved.

(I tried to work the phrase “lover’s spit” in there but couldn’t.)

[Bubba Jones]

I think the real answer is that they forgot to include the mayor’s kids and they were going to be really sad if they weren’t in the published photo.

I don’t think this is some larger conspiracy or incompetence. It’s just office politics.

[Rat on a train]

City creates affordable housing rule. City fails to inform home buyer or enforce rule until years later when owner attempts to sell.

[$park? leftist poser]

“I absolutely understand her frustration,” said Erik Solivan, director of the mayor’s office for Housing Opportunities for People Everywhere.

I don’t think you do.

[Rhywun]

I’m sure he does understand it. He just doesn’t give a s–t.

[damikesc]

I’m sure he does understand it. He just doesn’t give a s–t.

Ding! We have a winner.

No doubt he understands the frustration.

Change anything? Oh fuck that noise.

[Idle Hands]

The city never told Lopez it was reviewing her case to see if the title company or the city might be a fault.
Instead, two weeks after Solivan’s interview, a city inspector sent Lopez a notice of violation informing her she had 30 days to “offer the unit for resale” and she would have to list her home at the city’s affordable housing rate of $186,000.
The notice of violation states that if Lopez’s income in 2012 did not qualify as low income, and she knows it didn’t, then she has to sell her home in 30 days.

FYTW.

[Juice]

She absolutely must call a lawyer and sue.

[damikesc]

This can’t be legal…can it?

States cannot deny a request to sell than substitute with one demanding a sale…can they?

When people wonder why a lot of people don’t want a lot of illegals here and people say “Well, they’ll bring their idiotic ideas here and fuck our home up, too” — ask long-time Colorodans how much good importing a bunch of Californians has helped them out.

[KDN]

Lack of standing. FYTW.

“There is no punishment here because the review process is underway,” he said.

Protip: the process is the punishment.

[Overt]

As I note below, there was an encumbrance on the property, and it is absolutely legal for the state to enforce that encumbrance when discovered- even after the fact.

Imagine someone sold you a property but didn’t have the right to sell you the mineral rights because some family trust owned it. Upon discovery, the family trust sues you in court to say that they own the mineral rights and should get (say) the oil royalties being made off of the property. Courts would expect you to pay the royalties to the proper owner of the mineral rights. It is even possible depending on the laws of mineral rights that clauses in the family trust (such as prohibitions on drilling) could be enforced, screwing the oil company.

This is why we have things like title insurance- to protect against this type of thing. It is also why drilling companies spend a huge amount of money on their own title/property due diligence before contracting with property owners.

[Overt]

This one is a fucked up mess. While she was not at fault, she was benefiting. Though they do not clearly spell it out, it is implied that she bought this house below market rate at $150,000. So whether she knew about it or not, and whether she should have qualified for it or not, the home owner WAS benefiting from the program for the past 5 years.

She is looking at selling the house at a 76% improvement in value. Looking at Zillow, that is about right for the neighborhood.

At the end of the day, this is a case of negligence or fraud. Somebody sold her a property with encumbrances that were not disclosed. If the house must be sold at $79k below the market rate, then the party at fault should have to compensate her for that difference. My bet is that the developer who sold it to her (or previous owner) was responsible for making this disclosure and therefore they should be liable. That means likely the listing agent is also in trouble.

[Idle Hands]

In the article they claim she was paying property tax at the market rate.

[Idle Hands]

That was the most disturbing article I have read in a while.

[Juice]

It wasn’t in the deed. Should be pretty open and shut. Should be.

[Longtobefree]

Only in a nation of laws.

[Adam330]

The article is pretty confusing, but reading through the lines, I’m guessing the restriction was in a deed between the city and the developers, and then didn’t get put into her deed. It quotes her as saying its not in the deed, but then it quotes a lawyer who looked at the “the declaration of covenants for Denver’s affordable housing program” who thinks “the declaration itself exempts that property after the sale occurs.” So if that’s true, I’m guessing the question will be whether a deed restriction that gets omitted from a subsequent deed is still enforceable. I bet it is, unfortunately for her.

[Bubba Jones]

In which case she might have an action against the title company.

But do they have a responsibility beyond insuring the validity of the title?

[Bubba Jones]

Question: Did she pay market value at the time she purchased, or did she pay an artificially low rate.

Did Denver prices double over the last 5 years?

I can see the argument that if she benefited from the program by buying below market, she should be forced to abide by the terms. But evicting her from her own house is bullshit.

[Overt]

According to Zillow, the house has appreciated in value at roughly the same rate as the rest of the same neighborhood (75-85%).

[Jgalt1975]

Did Denver prices double over the last 5 years?

That’s actually possible depending on the specific neighborhood and qualities of the property. (Source: Someone whose Denver property tax valuation more than doubled in the last five years.)

[Fist of Etiquette]

Twitter is expected to soon roll out 280-character posting capabilities for all users.

The president is finally going to have the room to fully explain himself.

[Libertarian]

Mein gott. It will be Gutenberg all over again.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Twitter:

Now twice as much gibberish and faux-outrage!

[Bee Tagger]

Now online news articles are going to have to be twice as long to accommodate.

[damikesc]

Twitter: Twice the length, half the substance.

[Just Say'n]

“The University of Notre Dame is the first prominent organization to announce that it will cease to cover birth-control under its health-insurance plans following the Trump administration’s rollback of the Obamacare contraception mandate”

WOAH- Notre Dame is a Catholic institution? This is some shocking stuff. Good thing someone dug this up.

[Longtobefree]

Sometimes. It depends on the ranking by the PC police of the person or policy involved.

[Rhywun]

Notre Dame is a Catholic institution?

Well, a football program with a Catholic school attached.

[Eek Barba Durkle]

Both were far more respectable 40 years ago (yeah, I know, ND is on one of their septa-annual pretenses of legitimacy).

[Ken Shultz]

“Trump Blames Terrorist Attack on Chuck Schumer”

“Donald Trump is blaming the NYC attack on U.S. immigration policies he attributes to New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer.”

Why contradict yourself like that?

Headlines aren’t willfully dishonest if we also write the truth?

[Crusty Juggler]

OMG WTF Trump just blame the Joos.

[Ken Shultz]

“Americans have a lot of terrible ideas about free speech.”

Survey respondents know they’re not legislating. They know they’re just taking a survey.

The survey isn’t about free speech. It’s asking random Americans to register their outrage at flag burners in the wake of highly paid NFL athletes disrespecting the flag.

Ask Americans in a survey what should happen to rapists and child molesters in prison, and that isn’t their real opinion on the Eighth Amendment. It just shows that rapists and child molesters would lose badly on American Idol.

[Magnitogorsk]

This might be the most impressive display of mental gymnastics I’ve ever seen

[Longtobefree]

5.4 from the East German judge.

[TW]

No he’s actually right on the money. If you asked me in a survey “should hippies who burn the American flag as part of a protest be flogged or flayed alive?” My response would be something along the lines of “embrace the power of ‘and’.”

But when push comes to shove, I don’t want ANY government having the power to punish people for their viewpoints even if we were “only” talking about a twenty-five dollar fine. There are a lot of areas where I’m a staunch law and order type but there are even more areas where I think the government has no business being involved in. This is one of them.

[chemjeff]

So what are you really saying?

That you want “hippies” who burn the American flag to be punished, just not by the state?

[Bubba Jones]

It means that he hates hippies, but he doesn’t want to grant that much power to the State.

[EscherEnigma]

We have polling going back to the nineties that show a majority of America supports criminalizing flag-burning. When folks are that consistent, for that long, I’m kind of inclined to believe them.

[Longtobefree]

I hope you weren’t black from 1920 thru 1960.

[chemjeff]

The survey isn’t about free speech. It’s asking random Americans to register their outrage at flag burners in the wake of highly paid NFL athletes disrespecting the flag.

And we know you would consistently apply that same standard even when it comes to those on the left demanding that free speech be silenced. They aren’t really harboring dark totalitarian motives, they are just acting out their outrage, right?

[damikesc]

Well, on college campuses, those same jackasses actually DO suppress the speech of others and the colleges sit back and have no problem with it.

There is a slight difference.

[Ken Shultz]

“The University of Notre Dame is the first prominent organization to announce that it will cease to cover birth-control under its health-insurance plans following the Trump administration’s rollback of the Obamacare contraception mandate.”

I understand people enrolled in that insurance program are also expected to buy their own toilet paper.

[Ken Shultz]

The difference, I guess, is that using toilet paper isn’t against Catholic religion, so forcing Catholics to buy it for their employees isn’t a “common sense” thing to do in a progressive’s mind.

In a progressive’s mind, forcing people to do things only becomes “common sense” when it’s forcing them to do something that violates their rights or religious convictions. Can’t have people hiding behind the First Amendment! That way lies discrimination against LGBTQI+, hate speech, etc.

And, after all, using the coercive power of government to force people to do things against their will for the common good is what being a progressive is all about.

[EscherEnigma]

And, after all, using the coercive power of government to force people to do things against their will for the common good is what being a progressive is all about.

Given the broad bi-partisan support for non-discrimination laws that cover race, ethnicity and religion, this claim seems spurious.

At best you can say that extending such protections to LGBT people is “progressive”, but the underlying idea hasn’t been partisan for a long time.

[sarcasmic]

In a progressive’s mind, forcing people to do things only becomes “common sense” when it’s forcing them to do something that violates their rights or religious convictions.

Yep. If you have principles then you are an ideologue, and that makes you a bad person with bad intentions. It is the duty of tolerant people to force you to do things that violate those principles, and that is only because they can’t murder you. Which they would if they could. That is how they celebrate equality, tolerance and inclusiveness.

[damikesc]

I doubly love when they keep saying “It doesn’t cost that much”

…well, then, why can’t the women pay for it? Low cost doesn’t seem to be a justification for a subsidy of some sort.

[Just Say'n]

This is an actual libertarian moment. Cosmotarians hardest hit

[sarcasmic]

If it ain’t being given away for free then it is being taken away. Remember that not taking is giving and not giving is taking.

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

Wait…so this terrorist attack was committed by a Muslim and he didn’t use a gun?

YEE-HAW!!!! CEL-LE-BRATE GOOD TIMES. ITS TIME TO CELEBRATE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME!

CONSERVATIVES WILL KNOW WHAT TO DEMAGOGUE ON THIS ONE! A RABS OUT!!!

[Domestic Dissident]

He’s actually a white eastern European Muslim, like the Tsarnaev brothers. Though he does have the mandatory disgusting, unkempt beard.

Islam is a virulent and deadly ideological pathogen everywhere it exists in the world.

[Hail Rataxes]

Central Asia, Eastern Europe, what’s the difference when you’re a dumb sock?

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

You think Donald Trump or his followers know the difference. That’s kind of what I was going for.

[damikesc]

Ever notice how few terrorist attacks ever occur in Communist states?

I’m betting it’s because Commies are really willing to not shoot them and torture the shit out of them if they don’t do precisely what is wanted.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Though he does have the mandatory disgusting, unkempt beard.

What’s interesting is he didn’t have that beard until he started living in New York.

[Chinny Chin Chin]

Wait…so this terrorist attack was committed by a Muslim and he didn’t use a gun?

Gun control advocates thrilled.

[Rufus The Monocled]

“A study out of Chile suggests “20 percent of currently-enrolled poor students will lose seats to wealthier students under a free-tuition policy that fixes capacity.”

Same thing happened here with subsidized daycare. It was *designed* for working low-income families but its effectiveness was dulled by the fact wealthy people got spots. It’s not uncommon to see rich soccer moms in a Range Rover dumping kids off while they go off to socialize.

Social engineering has unintended consequences that are equally as bad or worse than the perceived problem attempted to regulate or fix.

[Rhywun]

Don’t worry. Hammer home the idea that cradle-to-grave government care is a “right” long enough, and people won’t care any more.

[EscherEnigma]

Happens with Social Security too: the people with the biggest pay-outs are also the people who need it the least. But part of the reasoning/justification for making such things “open to all” rather then means-testing them is that by letting everyone benefit, you also give everyone “skin in the game”. Throw in that you can also argue it’s not welfare if everyone gets it, and it becomes an easier sell.

Same reasoning why Bush’s “check to taxpayers” (sorry, can’t remember what it was called) wasn’t means-tested either. You sent in a tax form? The government cut you a check.

[Jgalt1975]

Happens with Social Security too: the people with the biggest pay-outs are also the people who need it the least.

That’s severely constrained by the income cap though. A Fortune 500 CEO earning a $30 million salary and a guy earning a $120,000 salary are both getting the same Social Security credits this year.

[Bubba Jones]

Doesn’t that mean that rich and poor are learning together?

Isn’t that a feature, not a bug?

[Eidde]

“(The program was approved in 1990 and signed into law by George H.W. Bush.)”

Fine, but what was Schumer’s role?

Or are we saying George H. W. was a raging Republican fanatic who would have vetoed any Demcratic-sponsred legislation (like tax hikes)?

[Ken Shultz]

I believe the point is supposed to be that whenever a Republican is also to blame, then it’s nobody’s fault. It’s certainly not the fault of a Democrat.

I’m sure you see how that logic works. That’s been Shrike’s m.o. daily for ten years. It’s ingenious!

That’s why everyone thinks what Shrike writes here is fascinating and ingenious.

[jcw]

There have been multiple recent articles about the fake divide between the parties and the “gotcha” game that everyone is so interested in playing.

Seems to me that this parenthetical is related to that higher level conversation that all politicians suck and blaming an individual party isn’t really relevant in this context.

[$park? leftist poser]

And that’s why Chuck Schumer, and only Chuck Schumer, is responsible for this.

[Stilgar]

It was part of the Immigration Act of 1990. That passed the senate 89-8 and house 264-118. The senate Nays were Armstrong (R-CO) Bumpers (D-AR) Byrd (D-WV) Exon (D-NE) Helms (R-NC) Lott (R-MS) Roth (R-DE) Rudman (R-NH). Chucky was in the house at that time and voted yea. The orginal bill was introduced in the Senate by Ted Kennedy.

I rarely agree with anything Chucky TV Cameras says but it really is disgusting how quickly Kaiser Trump went political, and as usual, with no clue.

[Chinny Chin Chin]

Look up HR 4165 of 1990, and note the sponsor. 4165 was folded into Teddy’s Immigration Act.

[damikesc]

Don’t make stilgar slow his roll….

[Longtobefree]

Schumer was the sponsor of the legislation in 1990.

‘just the facts, ma’am.’ – J. Friday.

[chemjeff]

Both Republicans and Democrats, at the time, were overwhelmingly in favor of the Diversity Visa lottery program.

To now blame Chuck Schumer for the terrorist attack yesterday, because he voted for the program, along with HUNDREDS of other legislators, is low and disgusting.

Once again: Imagine of Obama had done something similar… the right would go apeshit with rage

[damikesc]

He did sponsor it.

And Obama did call Bush un-American for running deficits that were…well, lower than Obama’s.

The Right didn’t go apeshit with rage.

[Juice]

Trump is going to give Dems some ammo by blaming immigration policy for the terrorist attack. They’ll say if immigrant control stops massacres then so would gun control.

[Longtobefree]

Of course; only gun control can stop truck rentals, everyone know that.

Fun fact: Immigration is a constitutional responsibility of the federal government. The right to keep and bear arms is a natural right protected by the federal constitution, and shall not be infringed. (in theory)

[damikesc]

SCOTUS even argued that back when they stopped AZ from actually enforcing immigration law when Obama did not wish to do so.

[Juice]

Fun fact: Immigration is a constitutional responsibility of the federal government.

Even funner fact. No, it’s not.

[Fuck =><= sevo]

That…doesn’t make any sense.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Good to know you want the Terrorists to win.

[Juice]

Why not? It all stems from the idea that an increase in government control and power will lead to more safety and security. Gun control advocates can just say “oh, so you’re willing to clamp down on immigration because some immigrant killed 8 people, but not on guns when someone shoots and kills over 50.”

[gaoxiaen]

ENB, good work on links.

[Dead inside]

Off topic but nice to see.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017…..g-cop.html

The comments are comedy gold, one troll is upset b/c only rich white nurses can get justice like this.

[Bubba Jones]

I actually disagree with this outcome. The agency had a policy that banned this asshole’s behavior. He should suffer the consequences, not the taxpayer.

[Bubba Jones]

California couple who survived Las Vegas shooting die in car crash

http://kdvr.com/2017/10/30/cal…..car-crash/

[Jgalt1975]

Given that there were approximately 22,000 people at the concert venue, it’s not exactly surprising that two of them would happen to be killed in a car crash within a month of the time of the shooting….

[Juice]

Cars are just that dangerous.