SCOTUS Props Up Trump Travel Ban, Cop Pick-Pockets Hot Dog Vendor on Camera, Congress Worries Over 'Sextortion' and Doxxing: A.M. Links

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  The U.S. Supreme Court said President Trump's refugee ban may proceed in some capacity for now.

• The Department of Justice has declined to bring charges against any Baltimore police officers in conjunction with Freddie Gray's death in police custody.
• A California cop was caught on video stealing cash from a hot-dog vendor while issuing him a citation.
• "Surely you just didn't just say the undue burden is met if we tell women you can't have an abortion in Ohio but you can certainly go to Michigan?"
• The U.S. Department of Agriculture is being sued over organic pigs.
• Missouri was down to one abortion clinic, but several more are now opening thanks to federal courts, Planned Parenthood, & the Satanic Temple.
• Ohio's Supreme Court affirmed limited liability for businesses if drunk patrons commit a crime after leaving.
• A California bill would end mandatory-minimum sentences for small-scale drug crimes.
• Congress is considering yet another internet-censoring bill to address supposed sexual exploitation, this time in the name of stopping "sextortion" and doxxing.
• Are you ready for The Scaramucci Post?

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Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

It's always sex with you, isn't it, ENB?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

It's interesting SCOTUS has overturned the 9th (a couple of times now is it?) regarding the ban and sided with Trump, while Obama the constitutional lecturer consistently lost in SCOTUS rulings.

Am I missing something?

[jcw]

This is a very interesting interpretation of SCOTUS limiting Trump's "refugee ban" once and then having to redefine that limitation.

[Huzzah]

You seem to have some gross misunderstanding about what actually happened.

[jcw]

Maybe so. I read the article that's linked and it's talking about the debate around the definition "bona fide" which originated from the court's first review of the ban.

Send me other info if that's wrong please.

[Hail Rataxes]

You're missing most of a functioning brain. Please keep your idiocy at The Site That Shall Not Be Named. For some reason they seem to like you. Maybe as a pet?

[Aw, cry more]

So, do you let Obama finish in you or on you?

[Hail Rataxes]

Rufus is never going to fuck you, buddy.

[Aw, cry more]

On you then, got it.

[Hail Rataxes]

You never got back to me about your wife and dry anal, by the way.

[Aw, cry more]

Wow, I really hurt your feelings.

[Azathoth!!]

Oh, for Hail Rataxes, it's always in.

He shits it out and rolls in it later, for the full Obama Experience.

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

It's just more of TreasonNN's (get it?) plan to appeal to millennials by being edgy and cool.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Hate to break it to you, Crusty, but sex is not edgy. It's always been cool, though.

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

Tell that to the puritanical leftists TreasonNN is trying to appeal to.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

And it's cool to edge before sex.

[gaoxiaen]

Okay, WTF does "edge" mean? Is it some new word like "Antifa"?

[Careless]

Seriously? That one's not even obscure or gross

[Fist of Etiquette]

I DON'T GET IT.

[gaoxiaen]

Never? Not even with ENB? Sad.

[Conchfritters]

Thank God.

[Aloysious]

Better ENB than Chapman.

[gaoxiaen]

+1 CIS point

[gaoxiaen]

She wouldn't have it any other way.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The U.S. Supreme Court said President Trump's refugee ban may proceed in some capacity for now.

Everything is coming up Trump!

[damikesc]

Was there ever any doubt that the President had rather firm legal footing in his actions?

[Domestic Dissident]

Nope, there was never really the slightest doubt to anyone with a brain at least.

The president has clear, long-established, and rather broad powers to protect Americans from foreign threats.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Mikey feels threatened by little brown kids. They give him nightmares, in which they feast on his spleen while Obama watches from the shadows as he screams.

[Citizen X - #6]

All of the brown children have the twitching, walleyed faces of Dave Weigel.

[Domestic Dissident]

You can take your race card and shove it up your gaping bunghole, Nick Gillespie junior.

[Aw, cry more]

And you seem to feel threatened by Mikey.

The mean girls thing you guys do obviously works, though, right?

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Yes, my jokes and stories come from a place of fear. You totally exposed me, brand new commenter that is most definitely not hiding his previous username.

[Aw, cry more]

"Yes, my jokes and stories come from a place of fear. "

Yes, everyone who watches you pathetically mean girl people constantly knows that, your predictable sarcasm notwithstanding.

[Domestic Dissident]

These sad little junior grade Obamabots are as predictable as they are pathetic. When you can't win an argument, pull out the race card. It's their general purpose security blanket.

[damikesc]

I have Indians where I live. The biggest threat I have is curry stench.

[gaoxiaen]

+1 two-dollar bill

[Azathoth!!]

At Reason?

Absolutely.

Liberty has been abandoned in favor of adhering to the latest of the left's ever changing SJ platitudes.

Rights? Pshaw!

Rights are structures of oppression designed by the white cisheteropatriarchy to keep people from uniting as a benevolent dictatorship of the proletariat.*

*sadly, this isn't at all over the top

[Azathoth!!]

At Reason?

Absolutely.

Liberty has been abandoned in favor of adhering to the latest of the left's ever changing SJ platitudes.

Rights? Pshaw!

Rights are structures of oppression designed by the white cisheteropatriarchy to keep people from uniting as a benevolent dictatorship of the proletariat.*

*sadly, this isn't at all over the top

[Azathoth!!]

skwerld

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Department of Justice has declined to bring charges against any Baltimore police officers in conjunction with Freddie Gray's death in police custody.

Oh boy.

[gaoxiaen]

THIS WAS REALLY UNEXPECTED!

[Fist of Etiquette]

A California cop was caught on video stealing cash from a hot-dog vendor while issuing him a citation.

Remember the good old days when Reason would link solely to its own posts? Poor Shackleford.

That money was guilty as sin.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Why do you consistently confuse Shackford with polar explorers?

[Citizen X - #6]

THAT'S THE JOKE

[Bee Tagger]

The U.S. Department of Agriculture is being sued over organic pigs.

I bet the packaging containing the legal documents is nearly impossible to open.

[Bee Tagger]

A California cop was caught on video stealing cash from a hot-dog vendor while issuing him a citation.

THE CITATION IS THEFT.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Whole other can of worms = opened.

[Eek Barba Durkle]

It's real simple - if you don't want your cash taken, don't get a citation.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Imagine how nice it will be when cash is outlawed and authorities don't have to go into your wallet to take your resources.

[gaoxiaen]

Or have cash.

[CE]

In Berkeley you don't need government papers to cross the border or enroll in college, and a government ID is too burdensome to make voters get one, but you dang sure better pay up for your hot dog vending license.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Surely you just didn't just say the undue burden is met if we tell women you can't have an abortion in Ohio but you can certainly go to Michigan?"

Hey, if I have to go across the border to Ohio to buy fireworks...

[Bee Tagger]

A California bill would end mandatory-minimum sentences for small-scale drug crimes.

Don't worry, future leaders, you still have control over defining "small-scale drug crimes"

[Rat on a train]

Possession with a street value under $0.01.

[gaoxiaen]

Equivalent to buying alcohol for minors would be satisfactory.

[Citizen X - #6]

Are you ready for The Scaramucci Post?

I WAS BORN READY

[Rufus The Monocled]

When I came out of the womb I proclaimed, 'TA-DAH! Hey, doll hand me that towel. It's chill here.' /wink.

[Citizen X - #6]

Like most Canadians, you were born wearing flannel long-johns, and with three full sets of teeth.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Then he reached back into his mother's vanaynay and pulled out his racoon hat.

[yet another dave]

Dude, it was a beaver hat...

[Azathoth!!]

it was a tuque

[Fist of Etiquette]

The U.S. Department of Agriculture is being sued over organic pigs.

Instead of following that link I'm just going to assume there's a cybernetic bacon industry trying to develop.

[gaoxiaen]

Crowdfund or GTFO!

[Bee Tagger]

Ohio's Supreme Court affirmed limited liability for businesses if drunk patrons commit a crime after leaving.

Bars that serve 100 people a day are at least partially on the hook for 300 felonies a day.

[Conchfritters]

Does the city or State own the stadiums where the Browns and Indians play? I guess either way, the "people" of Ohio are on the hook for those establishments.

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

The county owns the Indians' stadium, and the city owns the Browns' stadium.

The county and city serve alcohol to patrons and then pull them over for driving while intoxicated. It's all part of their plan.

[Citizen X - #6]

Missouri was down to one abortion clinic, but several more are now opening thanks to federal courts, Planned Parenthood, & the Satanic Temple.

One of these things is not like the others ??

Hint: it's the one that isn't funded by theft backed by the threat of deadly violence.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Satan is fuming somewhere in hell:
"It's all backwards! I hate these followers."

[gaoxiaen]

Led Zep backwards explains it.

[JWatts]

"Congress is considering yet another internet-censoring bill to address supposed sexual exploitation, this time in the name of stopping "sextortion" and doxxing."

How is this bill internet-censoring?

"which aims to curb the forms of online harassment which have become colloquially known as "sextortion," "swatting," and "doxxing." It updates federal criminal statutes to clearly and unambiguously prohibit these forms of online harassment and provides civil remedies for victims of these offenses. Critically necessary, it provides for collecting data on the prevalence of these forms of harassment, dedicated federal law enforcement officers to investigate and prosecute these offenses, and $24 million for training law enforcement."

[Ecoli]

"Critically necessary, it provides for collecting data on the prevalence of these forms of harassment, dedicated federal law enforcement officers to investigate and prosecute these offenses, and $24 million for training law enforcement."

But a committee investigating voting fraud is totally a waste of money.

[CatoTheChipper]

Voting fraud is an integral part of American democracy, so much so that it is sacrosanct. It ranks up their with gerrymandering, bundling of campaign donations, special constituent services, and presidential foundations.

It's pointless to investigate voter fraud because any changes in the system would inevitably create even more voter fraud.

[CE]

But you're assuming that voter fraud happens.
And there's no evidence it does.
Because we haven't looked for the evidence.
With no evidence of it occurring, why would we?

[Bee Tagger]

Are you ready for The Scaramucci Post?

Nah, I'm into post-scaramucci these days, it sounds a lot like scaramucci, but its a critically praised version.

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

Kid Rock gives Little Caesars Arena a rowdy, defiant initiation

With Rock having thrust himself into the national political conversation by teasing a U.S. Senate run (which got no new clarity Tuesday), the celebratory spirit inside LCA was preceded by heated but peaceful demonstrations on nearby streets.

Up to 200 protesters marched and decried Rock's support of President Donald Trump, his previous association with the Confederate flag and his selection as the Detroit arena's first act ? some characterizing the Romeo-raised star as an outsider.

Onstage, Rock later took at dig at the demonstrators ("they can protest deez nuts") while thanking Detroit police outside.

Protesters had been greeted by raised middle fingers and cries of "go home" from some arriving Kid Rock fans, who cheered as a convoy of black-clad bikers roared up Woodward Avenue in a loud act of counter-protest.

Fuck yeah!

[Zeb]

Man, people will protest anything these days. What the hell do they think they will accomplish by protesting a Kid Rock concert?

[mad.casual]

What the hell do they think they will accomplish by protesting a Kid Rock concert?

A show of support/solidarity with John Lithgow's character from Footloose?

[Conchfritters]

Why would they protest against Deez Nutz? Just an Iowa Farm boy, wants to be president, has Warren G on his side.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...thanks to federal courts, Planned Parenthood, & the Satanic Temple.

But I repeat myself.

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

Are you ready for The Scaramucci Post?

Fuck yeah!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Ohio's Supreme Court affirmed limited liability for businesses if drunk patrons commit a crime after leaving.

The only cure is to nationalize bars.

[Conchfritters]

The simple fact of life in 2017 is that the internet ? and technologies fueled by it ? are inextricably interwoven with our daily lives. It has given us the ability to live, work, learn, and socialize in innovative ways, with the capacity to connect with people in all corners of the world quite literally at our fingertips.

Very nice intro. And yet 70% of internet usage is for porn.

[mad.casual]

And yet 70% of internet usage is for porn.

Your statements are not mutually exclusive.*

*In the interest of commentary integrity I should disclose that a portion of my income is derived from the porn industry.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

mad casual's the guy commenting on every porn video with, "Stunning!"

[Citizen X - #6]

+1 cunning stunt

[mad.casual]

mad casual's the guy commenting on every porn video with, "Stunning!"

I feel like you're being underserved by your current porn options...

[Fist of Etiquette]

A California bill would end mandatory-minimum sentences for small-scale drug crimes.

Whoa. Someone's union lobbyists are dropping the ball in Sacramento.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Congress is considering yet another internet-censoring bill to address supposed sexual exploitation, this time in the name of stopping "sextortion" and doxxing.

Is there some reason we haven't outlawed the internet yet?

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

This 'fatberg' clogging a London sewer is longer than two football fields, weighs more than 11 buses

Crews in London are waging a "three-week sewer war" against an enormous "fatberg" ? a solid mass of congealed oil, diapers, hand wipes and other unsavory items ? that is clogging a Victorian-era sewer in Whitechapel, London, according to a news release from British utilities company Thames Water.

It's more than 250 yards long ? longer than two football fields. And it weighs 130 tons, more than 10 average buses.

And it's solid as a rock.

A crew of eight people is attempting to break the mass up using high-powered jet hoses. After it's in pieces, they'll suction it into tankers and bring it to a nearby recycling plant for disposal.

The "Fatberg Clog" was my nickname in college.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Mine was Victorian-Era Sewer.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Are you ready for The Scaramucci Post?

Any opportunity for more fandango jokes.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

Scaram??sh Scaram??sh it's a repost fandangle!

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

"All Scaramucci jokes are terrible." - Matt Welch

[Fist of Etiquette]

Like he's president of the memes.

[Rich]

All Weiner jokes are great, though, right? RIGHT?!

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

Ohio cop pleads guilty to using sex toy on two women during illegal traffic stop

Bolton illegally pulled over two women, aged 22 and 23, in February and used a sex toy he found in the back seat to rub their genitals over their clothing while they were seated in the vehicle, prosecutors said.

Bolton heard about another officer citing the two women over police radio about 30 minutes after he spotted their car and pulled them over, Cleveland.com reported.

Bolton was fired two weeks later after an internal investigation.

The 16-year veteran on the police force must register as a sex offender and will no longer be allowed to work as a police officer.

Lesson learned: never keep your sex toys in the backseat.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Front seat in plain view, with the batteries in the trunk.

[Juice]

Frankly, I'm shocked that he was treated like a prole.

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

'Best swimsuit for my curvy bod': Lena Dunham shows off her figure and a hidden neon orange tattoo on her derriere as she models red bikini

She's never been shy about sharing revealing photos on her social media.

And on Tuesday, Lena Dunham did just that as she flaunted her curvy form in a brightly colored bikini set.

The actress, who also showed off her tattoo on her derriere, gave a front and back view of the swimwear on her Instagram stories

Lena said of her red and orange set: 'Front view even better? This is the best swimsuit for my curvy bod I've found!'

Lena's tattoo of The Odeon on her left butt cheek was done by artist Robert Bonhomme - in honor of the famed restaurant in New York City.

It was done in an orange hue - which matched the neon sign of the real life eatery in Tribeca.

[Citizen X - #6]

Of course she has a restaurant tattooed on her. Of course she does.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

I guess sometimes the map IS the territory.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

I'm not looking forward to her approaching transition into Bruce Jenner Mk II.

[Ecoli]

I am very glad the London civil servants liberated her from the Fatberg.

[Zeb]

"Curvy"? Looks more lumpy and rectangular to me.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Missouri was down to one abortion clinic, but several more are now opening thanks to federal courts, Planned Parenthood, & the Satanic Temple.

GOP Aborto-Freaks at work.

Why don't these assholes actually CUT SPENDING?

[Conchfritters]

Because they're Republicans?

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

What do you think this is, the 1950s?

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

Hey girl, need a caffeine fix? Trendy Los Angeles cafe sells lattes with Ryan Gosling's FACE on them - and fans are going mad for hunk-covered coffees

The Canadian actor, 36, has inspired his very own artistic latte creation, which is being sold at a Los Angeles cafe, and is based on the actor's viral 'Hey Girl' meme.

The unique drink is the brain child of the Carrera Cafe on Melrose Avenue, which uses a ripple machine to print any image onto a drink's foam, including pictures of famed actor Ryan, who is proving to be quite the hot ticket as far as latte sales are concerned.

But without a doubt it is Ryan and his 'Hey Girl' meme that have drawn the most attention, particularly from the ladies, who have taken to customizing the meme-covered coffees to suit their own personalities.

One photo the cafe featured on their Instagram page sees a latte with Ryan's head and the caption, 'Hey girl, I love it when you wear yoga pants all day.'

Back in my day bartenders made designs in the head of a pint of Guinness using only their fingertips, and now these damn WOMEN are using a MACHINE to make their overpriced coffee seem more interesting.
Disgusting.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

You know you would.

[CE]

Isn't this a Title IX violation, on the face of it?

[Aloysious]

The U.S. Department of Agriculture is being sued over organic pigs.

Would have been funnier if they sued the Dept. of Justice

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

'The Orville' Review: Seth MacFarlane's 'Star Trek' Rip-Off is Creatively, Morally, and Ethically Bankrupt

The best way to describe "The Orville" is "What would happen if a guy who spent years writing animated dick jokes for television got the opportunity to make his own 'Star Trek'? Oh, and what if his parent network gave him millions to make that happen?" It is a show that will be baffling for people who have never seen an episode of "Star Trek." And for fans of the franchise, who know intimately how a "Trek" series feels, it will be downright disturbing.

Nerds. smdh.

[Conchfritters]

If MacFarlane truly wanted to create an homage to all of the qualities that have made "Trek" a beloved property for years, he would have done so by actually creating his own sci-fi universe ? his own aesthetic, his own episode structure. He would have striven for actual originality, which is not an impossible feat within this genre.

I don't think MacFarlane truly wanted to create an homage to all the qualities that made Trek a great show you fucking moron. Is the reviewer on the payroll at Salon (if they still even have a fucking payroll)??

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

It's like the reviewer missed any episode of Family Guy, which would have shown him that McFarlane is the most derivative hack in Hollywood this side of Tarantino.

[lap83]

"Based on the trailer, the assumption was that Seth MacFarlane was doing a "Star Trek" parody, a la "Galaxy Quest" ? theoretically not an annoying notion, especially since "Galaxy Quest" was a great movie."

yeah, it looked like a crappy Galaxy Quest

[Ron]

I saw the first episode and it was pretty good and probably better then the new star trek you can only get on line which I don't have

[CE]

Who are these people who have never seen an episode of Star Trek?

[mad.casual]

Also, I'm trying to picture the person who hasn't seen an episode of Star Trek and would be impenetrably baffled by its nuance and complexity. The only people I can come up with would be startled at the point of turning the talking picture box on.

[Citizen X - #6]

Family Guy fans, then?

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

Hillary Clinton's funny idea of authoritarianism

"Attempting to define reality is a core feature of authoritarianism," the former secretary of state wrote in her new book, "What Happened." "This is what the Soviets did when they erased political dissidents from historical photos. This is what happens in George Orwell's classic novel Nineteen Eighty-Four when a torturer holds up four fingers and delivers electric shocks until his prisoner sees five fingers as ordered," she added.

Clinton concluded her line of reasoning with this rather confounding bit: "The goal is to make you question logic and reason and to sow mistrust toward exact the people we need to rely on: our leaders, the press, experts who seek to guide public policy based on evidence, ourselves."

Wow. Just wow.

[Palin's Buttplug]

I know this place is 100% male but to a woman any government that is telling you what you can and cannot do with your baby-hatch is "authoritarian" while tax collection is just government being government for the good of the people.

[lap83]

fuck off

[Citizen X - #6]

Shreek hasn't touched a vagina since he got shat out of one, but damned if he'll let an actual woman tell him he can't speak for all women!

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

Near the center of her universe.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Donations to the Clinton Slush Fund, er, Foundation have dried up so she's having to make up the losses by pimping a hilariously clueless, self-justifying manifesto.

What a treasure--every time the left shows signs of starting to move on from her loss, she inserts herself into the national conversation again and rips the scab off anew.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Best part of the article:

"I'm excited for her book release because it's something I've never seen from a candidate dealing with defeat," 24-year-old Brandon Echevarria told me.

Yeah, most losing Presidential candidates retire from the spotlight with grace and dignity, not whore themselves out for more shekels. So Hillary's setting new standards in that regard as well.

[lap83]

"ourselves"

I have a feeling she begrudgingly added this part

[Tony]

Wow what?

Oh, you're already a fucking victim like most people here.

Newsflash hotshot: Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot, not a purveyor of cosmic truth.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Just because you freaks don't understand that 1984 is a cautionary tale, not a how-to guide, doesn't mean you have to be so bitchy.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Authorities are our only defense against authoritarianism.

[CE]

Most people read 1984 as a cautionary tale.
Politicians read it as an instruction manual.

[Mickey Rat]

So, the writer of her book uses inappropriate analogies from "1984" as well as "Game of Thrones".

Then torture was to make the victim believe what the leadership's Party line is today unquestioningly rather than his own senses or what the Party line was yesterday, you idiot.

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

Congress is considering yet another internet-censoring bill to address supposed sexual exploitation, this time in the name of stopping "sextortion" and doxxing.

The biography of the person who wrote the linked opinion piece:

Jennifer Becker is senior staff attorney at Legal Momentum, the women's legal defense and education fund. Prior to joining Legal Momentum, Becker was a sex crimes and child abuse prosecutor in the Bronx, New York, and was the Title IX Coordinator for the New York City public school system.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Is that what the new Jason Statham movie, The Coordinator, is about?

[Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian]

BCA finishes Damond investigation, hands it over to county attorney

State authorities have completed their investigation into the fatal shooting of Justine Ruszczyk Damond on July 15 in a Minneapolis alley by a police officer and turned the case over to the Hennepin County attorney's office for consideration of charges.

The investigation took two months.

With the investigation taking another step forward, Zach Damond, Justine's stepson, spoke for several minutes at a public forum about how the Hennepin County sheriff's new body camera policy should be improved.

The draft policy, which currently will be in effect only for members of the SWAT team, gives deputies some discretion when they are required to activate the cameras. Damond said he couldn't understand why deputies would even want to turn off their cameras.

"I would want it on 24/7," he said. "It works both ways, as far as evidence goes. It may help out the deputy."

He said he's still living with the shock and mystery of what happened to Justine that night. "I will never know what happened," he said. "I don't hate all cops, but why are we even having this discussion?"

Blue Lives Matter too, fella, and so do police unions.

[CE]

So with the cops in jail for the murder, how long do they have to wait to get a trial?
Oh, wait.

[Ken Shultz]

"A California cop was caught on video stealing cash from a hot-dog vendor while issuing him a citation."

The linked article at The Washington Post contains the following statement:

"The money seized was booked into evidence".

https://tinyurl.com/ycuezqrg

Booking evidence of a crime is not "stealing". It isn't even asset forfeiture.

When we're right about something, there's no need to be intellectually dishonest. Intellectual dishonesty is usually evidence of being wrong. Why would someone who's right be intellectually dishonest unnecessarily?

Some people don't know the difference between right and wrong--that's one explanation. Some people don't know the difference between intellectual honesty and intellectual dishonesty. That's my guess here.

Even worse, other people don't care what the difference is between them. They think it's okay to cry wolf--because wolves are bad--but that's horseshit when the world is teeming with real wolves. Why not pick a real wolf and cry wolf about one of them?

[Aw, cry more]

You're bitching to people who constantly bellow about taxation being theft, so, piss into the wind if you want, guy.

[Hail Rataxes]

I guess Ken isn't your favorite pet.

[Aw, cry more]

So Obama finished with you I see.

[Ken Shultz]

Hi Tulpa!

[Aw, cry more]

Are you feeling ok?

That's usually 3 paragraphs worth of material for you.

[Ken Shultz]

If you don't know the difference between the idea that taxation is like theft and saying that someone caught a cop on camera "stealing" something, then you might be one of those people who doesn't know the difference between intellectual honesty and intellectual dishonesty.

Oh, and another difference--taxation can't sue your employer for libel.

Perhaps the biggest difference between saying that "Taxation is theft" and that "A California cop was caught on video stealing cash from a hot-dog vendor" is that taxation really is like theft--because there was no crime involved in legitimately earned money. Conversely, a cop booking cash into evidence isn't "stealing" at all. It just isn't.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

It's not stealing, it's borrowing.

[Zeb]

I'm not sure what the distinction you are seeing here is. Collecting taxes is a legal activity too, just like seizing cash from people selling hotdogs without a license. If taxation is theft, then so is taking money from someone who is doing nothing to harm anyone for the "crime" of failing to pay off the government so he can sell hotdogs without interference.

[Ken Shultz]

Taxation is taking money from people who haven't committed any crime. That's theft.

Taxation really is theft.

Booking evidence isn't stealing. Even money that's been stolen from some robbery victim should be booked as evidence.

Booking evidence is not theft.

Really, it's not hard to understand. You're being willfully obtuse.

[Mickey Rat]

Taxation for the purposes of redistribution, social engineering or funding progras the government has no authoriy for is stealing.

[dantheserene]

Was that booking before or after the video went viral? Did the vendor receive a receipt for his property?

[Ron]

Exactly dan and the video never showed the cop putting the "evidence " into an evidence bag

[Citizen X - #6]

Booking evidence of a crime is not "stealing".

That depends on whether legality determines morality.

[Ken Shultz]

No it doesn't.

[CE]

The evidence of the "crime" was the 4 bucks the cop saw the vendor take for selling a delicious bacon dog to a willing customer.

The stealing refers to extracting 60 bucks from the vendors' wallet.

Stealing is a strong word, because (assuming the cop books it all into evidence and doesn't take a tip), the accused can get it back in California, eventually, if their appeal is successful. Tough when it's your last 60 bucks though.

If you took all the money in my pockets against my will and locked it up for a few months while we determined how I earned it, which term is more accurate -- stealing or safe-keeping?

[Ken Shultz]

The money taken was booked as evidence.

It was not stolen.

You're making the issue of asset forfeiture look ridiculous.

Asset forfeiture is more like theft. They take your money regardless of whether you're convicted of a crime.

Booking evidence is neither asset forfeiture nor theft.

The money in question was booked as evidence. It was not stolen by a cop.

[Sevo]

"'Monkey selfie' lawsuit finally settled after two years and a banana boat full of puns"
[...]
"On Monday, Slater and the animal rights group reached an agreement out of court. As part of the settlement, Slater will donate 25 percent of proceeds from sales or usage of the "monkey selfies" to charities in Indonesia that protect crested macaques, considered a critically endangered species."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news /animalia/wp/2017/09/12/monkey-selfie-lawsuit- finally-settled-after-two-years-and-a -banana-boat-full-of-puns/? utm_term=.c5194ad4cd18

OK, he probably figured it was cheaper than the legal fees, but WIH standing did PETA have to bring the suit to begin with?

[Rat on a train]

Juggalos are gathering in Washington this Saturday.

[Domestic Dissident]

Some new developments in the story that the Obama momma media (including Reason) don't want you to know about: it turns out that Imran Awan was banned from the House of Representatives after fruitlessly attempting to hide a secret server that was illegally connected to the House network from investigators.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Whoa, I'm surprised the DNC didn't have him bumped off.

[SIV]

He had the goods on them.