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Trump to Drop Gender Pay Rule, Appeals Court Affirms Right to Criticize Cops, Florida Spent $5 Million on Scrapped Website: A.M. Links

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 8.30.2017 9:03 AM

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    The Trump administration will reportedly drop an Obama-administration rule requiring businesses to report on employee pay by gender, race, and ethnicity. "It's enormously burdensome," Neomi Rao, administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, told the Wall Street Journal. "We don't believe it would actually help us gather information about wage and employment discrimination."

  • The Florida Senate spent $5 million on a website "that it later scrapped," according to the Associated Press. It's now "agreed to spend up to $200,000 more in a legal battle to avoid further payments" to the person who developed the doomed site.
  • Houston cops are warning about burglars posing as Homeland Security agents.
  • Hurricane Harvey touched down in Louisiana Wednesday morning.
  • "Prenatal testing followed by selective abortion is not genetic engineering," writes David M. Perry at The Nation. "It is, however, a space in which we have real-world data about how people make choices about procreation when granted additional information about the genetic makeup of their potential offspring," and as such it could prove instructive for the "the Age of CRISPR."
  • A federal appeals court ruled that cops couldn't charge someone with obstructing justice merely for being critical of them. "The officers [argued] that he had no constitutional right to observe a traffic stop or arresting officer in conversation," reports the Washington Examiner., "but the court rejected that argument by pointing out that Hoyland was 'standing in the doorway of his own home trying to tell the officers that his wife was handicapped.'"

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    The Trump administration will reportedly drop an Obama-administration rule requiring businesses to report on employee pay by gender, race, and ethnicity.

    A government database going neglected? Now I've seen everything.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

      Hello.

      Trump slowly removing Obama's stupid left-wing, Marxist SJW crap is just sparklingly awesome.

      1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

        Truly,
        I just wish his administration wouldn't give reasons like this:

        "It's enormously burdensome," Neomi Rao, administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, told the Wall Street Journal. "We don't believe it would actually help us gather information about wage and employment discrimination."

        The correct reason is Fuck off, Slaver.

        The implication of the reason given is that if "someone" determined that it wasn't too burdensome, or that it gave the FEDs some info, it would be just fine.

        So, Trump gets a qualified, "well done".

        1. some guy   8 years ago

          While your response is certainly appropriate for a comment board, it's hardly appropriate for an official statement from the office of the president. They should have said something like "This rule is clearly an unconstitutional invasion of privacy and serves no purpose other than virtue signalling by the previous administration. It's fired."

          1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

            " it's hardly appropriate for an official statement from the office of the president. "

            Trump trumps all that shit. "Inappropriate" has been temporarily suspended.

      2. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

        It is indeed, but not to fugazis like Elizabeth Nolan Brown. She believes in the "wage and employment discrimination" bullshit like all far lefties.

        1. $park? leftist poser   8 years ago

          WTF? Dude, seek help.

          1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

            Do we have any proof Mikey is NOT in a mental institution somewhere?

            1. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

              You can't prove a negative, and thus I believe it.

              1. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

                Wait, I'm not in a Mental Institution and I think DD is one of my sockpuppets.

                Damn it, it's hard to remember all who I am these days.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   8 years ago

      ""Obama-administration rule requiring businesses to report on employee pay by gender, race, and ethnicity.""

      That would mean your job must collect your gender, race, and ethnicity in order for report. Cali might be making a mockery of that by allowing gender X.

      The ability to collect means you are giving companies a way to use reporting for enhance their ability to discriminate.

    3. CE   8 years ago

      As the 14th Amendment requires.

  2. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    A federal appeals court ruled that cops couldn't charge someone with obstructing justice merely for being critical of them

    And I've already got two busted tail-lights, so I guess I've just been granted free reign.

    1. CE   8 years ago

      Free rein. Like on a horse.

      A king reigns, but he holds the reins of power.

    2. Robert   8 years ago

      The case is bizarre according to the linked story. A driver ostensibly commits a moving violation. Instead of pulling to the curb, he pulls into the driveway of his passenger. Both driver & passenger are ordered out of the car & to raise their hands, which they do, but also to do some action involving walking backward, which the passenger has trouble doing. In the commotion, the word "shoot" is uttered loudly. Passenger's husband opens the house door to see what's happening & yell that his wife is handicapped, acc'ting for her problem walking backward. Husband is then verbally arrested by police.

      WTF was going on??! Why wasn't pulling into a driveway as good as stopping by the curb? Why were the car's occupants both treated like public enemy #1, for a traffic violation 1 of them committed? Why does the contagion extend to the guy at the door? Why was no atom bomb dropped on the neighborhood?

      1. Patrick Henry, the 2nd   8 years ago

        Because that is challenging to the cops authority, and we can't have that.

        I once was being pulled over for an illegal pass. The cop wanted me to stop on a hill where the speed limit is 55 and there is no curb. I refused. I put on my blinkers and slowly pulled to a place where I felt safe.

        The cop was livid. He literally said "Your safety is my job." No it isn't. He said it was safe, but he was very wrong. I didn't care he was upset. Screw him.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    It's now "agreed to spend up to $200,000 more in a legal battle to avoid further payments" to the person who developed the doomed site.

    That person? None other than Mr. Edward L. Geocities himself.

    1. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

      Mr. Geocities is my father, please call me Ed.

    2. Spartacus   8 years ago

      The website was supposed to help people understand the state budget

      Now we know the whole thing is a prank. Florida's state budget is not, and cannot be, understood by *anybody*.

      1. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

        It uses numbers invented by the Arch-Florida Man that were given to him by god during a meth rager.

    3. CE   8 years ago

      Do you know who else developed a doomed website?

  4. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Watch a 'Blade Runner 2049' Prequel Short Film Starring Jared Leto

    We at Collider are happy to exclusively premiere an "in-world" piece that explains what happened in the world of Blade Runner between the first movie, set in 2019, and this sequel, set in 2049. This in-world short film takes place in the year 2036 and revolves around Jared Leto's character, Niander Wallace. In this short, directed by Luke Scott (Morgan), Wallace introduces a new line of "perfected" replicants called the Nexus 9, seeking to get the prohibition on replicants repealed. This no doubt has serious ramifications that will be crucial to the plot of Blade Runner 2049.

    *swoons*

    1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

      Man, these trailers are coming out early. How do we even know we are gonna be around in 2049?

  5. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    "We don't believe it would actually help us gather information about wage and employment discrimination."

    They're trying to artificially prop up Twitter, aren't they?

  6. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Houston cops are warning about burglars posing as Homeland Security agents.

    You're still getting arrested for failing to open your door for police, though.

    1. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

      Normally they'd just shoot them, so they're obviously taking the trying times into account.

  7. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Fascism, American Style

    Paul Krugman wrote this:

    Given the powers we grant to the president, who in some ways is almost like an elected dictator, giving the office to someone likely to abuse that power invites catastrophe. The only real check comes from Congress, which retains the power to impeach; even the potential for impeachment can constrain a bad president

    Hmmm. You don't say.

    1. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

      This is quite the fork paragraph, which direction will he go from here?

      1. Chinny Chin Chin   8 years ago

        You can be certain it won't be the "we should make government less powerful and dangerous" fork.

      2. Rhywun   8 years ago

        "TRY AGAIN LATER"

    2. Juice   8 years ago

      I don't remember granting any president anything.

      1. some guy   8 years ago

        You don't remember signing the social contract using the blood of your birth? Your poor memory is no excuse.

        1. CE   8 years ago

          I remember applying for a Social Security card before I was legally old enough to sign contracts, because the government said I needed one to work.

    3. Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting   8 years ago

      Given the powers we grant to the president, who in some ways is almost like an elected dictator,

      Gee Paul, did you ever stop to consider how it may have gotten to that point? Oh right, it was Progressives demanding that the executive branch assume more power where the legislature wouldn't enact a radical far-left agenda.

  8. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    The Florida Senate spent $5 million on a website "that it later scrapped,"

    Are we 100% sure that scrpr isn't the name of a hot new javascript framework?

    1. Drave Robber   8 years ago

      It's the name of the wolf. Big bad wolf.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Hurricane Harvey touched down in Louisiana Wednesday morning.

    Well, they said after Katrina the storms would keep coming and get worse. They've finally been proven right.

    1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

      Is it still a Hurricane?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

        What is this obsession of yours with labels?

        1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

          Pigeon holes are what separate us from the pigeons.

          1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

            And chicken holes are what separate us from chickens. Unless you are SIV.

      2. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

        NOAA called it a Tropical Storm 1 day after it hit Texas. it is still being called a Tropical Storm.

        1. CE   8 years ago

          With unprecedented rainfall, almost as bad as that storm in 1978.

          1. BYODB   8 years ago

            I do not think that word means what they think it means. ^_-

  10. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    "The officers [argued] that he had no constitutional right to observe a traffic stop or arresting officer in conversation,"

    Oh boy, can I be in the room when someone tells them about what the NSA has been up?

  11. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    A federal appeals court ruled that cops couldn't charge someone with obstructing justice merely for being critical of them.

    Luckily there's always a plethora of other charges available.

  12. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Pumpkin Spice Latte tracker will notify you when drink is available

    Starbucks' Pumpkin Spice Latte ? or PSL for those in the know ? may be the most highly-anticipated fall beverage. So anticipated that Starbucks baristas created a digital "support group" to vent about, and prepare for, the upcoming frenzy.

    Fans start clamoring for the return of their favorite cool-weather beverage even before summer ends.

    But now PSL drinkers can rest easy knowing that they won't miss the release of the spiced pumpkin coffee, thanks to a new website created by Patrick Johnson.

    And you creeps are worried about the brown hordes.

    1. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

      I more associate Starbucks running out of things with the salt component of their salted caramel mocha. That seems to happen earlier and earlier every year.

    2. Rhywun   8 years ago

      Great. I'll know when to stock up on barf bags.

    3. CE   8 years ago

      It still trails McRib among seasonal food items.

    4. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

      I've always been vocally more afraid of white women.

  13. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Cop accused of abusing power to force women into sex acts

    One woman alleges that Sanderson stopped her on suspicion of impaired driving in May and forced her to have sex with him at the police station, Montgomery County Prosecutor Mat Heck Jr. said. Another woman who was arrested on a warrant in early June separately accused Sanderson of forcing her into sex acts at the station, Heck said.

    Two more women allege that Sanderson arranged to meet them for sex at a motel in June using the website Backpage.com, then showed up in uniform, told them he was investigating human trafficking and prostitution, and said he would give them a warning, Heck said. Sanderson briefly left, then returned to the motel room minutes later and engaged in sexual activity with the women, who said they felt compelled to cooperate because he was an officer, Heck said.

    He must have been under a lot of stress.

  14. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Ruby Ridge lessons for fighting right-wing extremism

    In the wake of the protest in Charlottesville by white supremacists, many people are demanding a crackdown on dangerous right-wing extremists. The federal government has previously carried out similar campaigns against with disastrous results. Rather than intellectually purifying the nation, such efforts are far more likely to turn nitwits into martyrs and to ravage Washington's credibility.

    And then he goes on to describe what happened at Ruby Ridge, which is a maddeningly awful reminder of what federal law enforcement can do, and that was long before the Patriot Act, too.

    1. mad.casual   8 years ago

      *Adds 'Crusty Juggler' to the list of potential domestic terrorists.*

    2. Rhywun   8 years ago

      Aw, this one's too easy.

      You know who else wanted to intellectually purify the nation?

      1. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

        Mao?

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   8 years ago

          Mayo

      2. Conchfritters   8 years ago

        Pol Pot?

      3. mad.casual   8 years ago

        Agent J? K?

      4. BYODB   8 years ago

        Woodrow Wilson?

    3. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

      Rather than intellectually purifying the nation

      That single sentence is horrifying.

  15. damikesc   8 years ago

    The Trump administration will reportedly drop an Obama-administration rule requiring businesses to report on employee pay by gender, race, and ethnicity. "It's enormously burdensome," Neomi Rao, administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, told the Wall Street Journal. "We don't believe it would actually help us gather information about wage and employment discrimination."

    If companies could get the same work out of others for less of the cost of hiring white guys...no white guys would have jobs in the first place.

    1. Griffin3   8 years ago

      Ninety-seven percent of the bus and train operators at the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority are black, with only six white women out of more than 3,000 drivers ... "I was read the riot act: 'You had no right to compile these statistics,' even though it was my job. They didn't want people showing problems," she said.

      [CITE] ... so I don't think those statistics the gov't was forcing everyone to collect were helping much with the problem. Or were those only intended to correct 'private' businesses?

      1. BYODB   8 years ago

        Government: Removing the mote from their brothers eye before addressing the plank in their own since...do we actually have a start date for the first government? Lets say 6000 B.C.

  16. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Mattis freezes transgender policy; allows troops to continue serving, pending study

    "Once the panel reports its recommendations and following my consultation with the secretary of Homeland Security, I will provide my advice to the president concerning implementation of his policy direction," Mattis said in the statement. "In the interim, current policy with respect to currently serving members will remain in place."

    Mattis' move buys time for the Pentagon to determine how and if it will allow thousands of transgender troops to continue to serve, whether they will receive medical treatment, or how they will be discharged.

    More like James Cuckis, am I right?

    1. Unlabelable MJGreen   8 years ago

      He's following the directive to the letter.

    2. BYODB   8 years ago

      Thousands of transgender troops? Now I'm curious if the military plans to figure out why Transgender people are so attracted to the military when they make up a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of overall people. I doubt there 'thousands' of them in any industry or occupation outside of perhaps niche pornography.

      If that 'thousands' claim is accurate, which I sincerely doubt, than it would appear there must be some incentive for them to join. What could that incentive be, one wonders? Certainly not taxpayer subsidized transition surgeries, right?

  17. damikesc   8 years ago

    ?"Prenatal testing followed by selective abortion is not genetic engineering,"

    I'm curious as to how it wouldn't be. Killing specific babies due to specific "defects" seems to be the definition of genetic engineering.

    1. Juice   8 years ago

      I wouldn't call it engineering. It's more like selective culling. Engineering would mean design and fabrication beforehand.

    2. Mickey Rat   8 years ago

      No, this is culling lives deemed unworthy of life. It is eugenics, which has a darker history.

      1. mad.casual   8 years ago

        Whaddya mean? I don't think you're looking at the bright side. You would have an entire class of humans that you can deem categorically inferior and who should consider themselves privileged just to be alive and able to serve their masters work for the rest of us help people.

      2. BYODB   8 years ago

        Indeed. They are correct that it's not genetic engineering, technically, but it is eugenics and potentially ethnic cleansing and/or genocide. Much better, right?

    3. WakaWaka   8 years ago

      It's a matter of opinion. There is no way that you can say that it definitely isn't genetic engineering when it basically follows the same formula as past genetic engineering efforts. ENB rabidly loves abortion, but, like others, recognizes that killing babies for genetic issues is icky and makes the procedure even more unethical, so they just declare this is totes different without providing any information how it is different

      1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

        Always so loose with the term "baby." This sort of dishonest labeling is the root of the pro-life movement.

        1. CE   8 years ago

          It's not a puppy.

    4. Masturbatin' Pete   8 years ago

      You're not doing engineering of the gene pool if you're killing humans with conditions that aren't heritable.

      People with Downs rarely have children, and Downs isn't inherited from normal parents. It's a defect, but one that we can't breed out of the population Preventing people with Downs from reproducing by killing them will have no meaningful effects on the number of humans conceived with Downs.

  18. Conchfritters   8 years ago

    Minnesota cops again. What are they putting in their lutefisk? Toss in a police union loving maniac as the Governor, and you get people arrested for standing on their porches, or telling an officer that you have a concealed carry permit. And forget calling the cops if you think you hear a woman being attacked in an alley - if you approach the responding cop car while kids are lighting off fireworks down the block, you are likely to get killed.

  19. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    How 'Doxxing' Became a Mainstream Tool in the Culture Wars

    As long as the lamestream media isn't doxxing, doxxing is good, because them, over there, they're bad!

    1. mad.casual   8 years ago

      "Some of what is happening now will make these white supremacists realize why their grandparents wore hoods," Ms. Wilson said. "At least then there was shame."

      Ah, the good ole days when white supremacists actually hung and violently intimidated people with regularity... and were ashamed.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        "At least then there was shame."

        Yeah, Antifa would never walk around concealing their identities.

  20. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    A federal appeals court ruled that cops couldn't charge someone with obstructing justice merely for being critical of them.

    The majority of the three-judge panel said police officers lacked probable cause to arrest Brian Hoyland for obstructing the legal process, and the court rejected the officers' claims of "qualified immunity" in defense of their error. Qualified immunity refers to the legal protection from civil liability given to public officials who do not violate an individual's "clearly established" constitutional or statutory rights.

    "Police officers have a tough job," wrote Judge Bobby Shepherd in the 2-1 opinion. "They must confront dangerous situations and make difficult decisions in short time frames. This is why we offer the protection of qualified immunity ? to insulate officers from the constant threat of litigation while serving and safeguarding their fellow citizens. But to receive that protection, we must find as a matter of law that the officers acted within the confines of the Constitution ... Looking at the facts of this case, we cannot hold as a matter of law that the officers acted constitutionally."

    A good opinion?

    1. Griffin3   8 years ago

      Sounds like Judge Bobby Shepard (who was/is on the shortlist for Supreme Court) is only a couple of shiny jackboots away from the truth.

    2. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

      Does anyone else think Crusty had too much coffee this morning? Not that I am complaining.

      1. mad.casual   8 years ago

        Given the paucity of "instructor/student lesbian tryst" and "teacher pregnant with one of six student's baby" stories, I'd say he hasn't had enough.

  21. Sevo   8 years ago

    If the government weren't the cause of the problem, it might be able to help, but....

    "Brown, lawmakers work on package of bills to solve state housing crisis"
    [...]
    "Every year I'm told next year we will do housing," said Assemblyman David Chiu, D-San Francisco, chair of the Assembly Housing and Community Development Committee. "We have to get it done now."
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/pol.....159767.php

    Oh, Mr. Chiu, you've "done" housing already. That's the reason it's screwed.

    1. Rhywun   8 years ago

      But there's poors to keep trapped in dependency! Why do you hate the poors?

  22. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Grieving family of Australian woman shot dead in her pyjamas by a US cop may have to wait until NEXT YEAR to find out whether the officer will face charges

    Prosecutors say it may take up to six months to decide whether Noor will be charged and denied the legal system was protecting the officer.

    'The truth is, we are following the same procedure we have with the three previous officer-involved shootings.'

    'Usually from the time of the officer firing the shot until our office's announcement of a decision, four to six months have elapsed,' he said.

    'I fully expect a decision in this case before the end of 2017.'

    Just enough time for the fervor to have lost most of it's steam, and hopefully it's too cold to riot.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

      See? This is fair and equal treatment for all (police officers).

    2. Griffin3   8 years ago

      To be fair, everyone who shoots another person in Minnesota gets to wait 4-6 months to see if the will be charged with a crime. Right?

    3. Marty Feldman's Eyes   8 years ago

      'The truth is, we are following the same procedure we have with the three previous [b]officer-involved[/b] shootings.'

      yeah, there's yer problem right there.

    4. BYODB   8 years ago

      Note how it's only a 'big deal' because the person they murdered was a foreign national rather than a citizen. If they were simply a U.S. citizen, no one gives a shit.

  23. albo   8 years ago

    The Trump administration will reportedly drop an Obama-administration rule requiring businesses to report on employee pay by gender, race, and ethnicity.

    Live by an executive order imperial presidency, lefties, die by an executive order imperial presidency.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   8 years ago

      ""Live by an executive order imperial presidency, lefties, die by an executive order imperial presidency.""

      I kept telling people that when they were applauding Obama's phone and pen statement.

  24. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

    Who is still in Tay-Tay's squad?

    In her music video for her latest single, "Look What You Made Me Do," Taylor wears a DIY T-shirt and on it are written the names of her real-life friends. While similar in look to the T-shirt she wore in her "You Belong With Me" music video, the latter was covered in seemingly random names, while this iteration seems hauntingly real.

    On the tee, we can still make out the names Lena (Dunham), Gigi (Hadid), Martha (Hunt), Claire (Kislinger), Patrick (Stewart), Selena (Gomez), all three Haim sisters, Blake (Lively), husband Ryan (Reynolds), Ed (Sheeran), Todrick (Hall), and Abigail (Anderson). The missing names include none other than Karlie Kloss, Ruby Rose, and Lorde, who had previously been part of the tight-knit group, but seem to no longer associate with the blonde singer.

    1. Unlabelable MJGreen   8 years ago

      Huh?

    2. CE   8 years ago

      Didn't she used to be a singer?

    3. Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting   8 years ago

      Taylor Swift's squad is a gorgeous conglomerate of actresses, singers, models, and childhood friends.

      And Lena Dunham.

  25. DajjaI   8 years ago

    The Trump administration will reportedly drop an Obama-administration rule requiring businesses to report on employee pay by gender, race, and ethnicity.

    Great now the corporations are going to pit these vulnerable minority groups against each other to exploit them for cheap labor and it will be a race to the bottom and the winning prize will be slavery.

    1. creech   8 years ago

      "See, dropping this racial profiling rule is proof that Trump is a racist."

    2. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

      This guy's back?

      1. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

        It made its Grand Reopening Opening appearance a few days ago.

  26. DajjaI   8 years ago

    Hurricane Harvey touched down in Louisiana Wednesday morning.

    Libertarians are against government until the hurricane and then they are literally drowning each other trying to get federal aid.

    1. Sevo   8 years ago

      Lefties are lying imbeciles.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        I can't tell if he's serious, trolling, or some performance-art mixture of the two.

    2. Chinny Chin Chin   8 years ago

      I don't need a hurricane.

      Instead of tubing on rivers, I have my orphans create a living raft, like ants, and I ride them.

      1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

        I hope your orphans are less bitey.

    3. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

      You mean Libertarians are for small government.

      If small government wants to use some of its small budget to assist disaster victims, then we can discuss it and something else in the budget has to get cut.

    4. mad.casual   8 years ago

      Libertarianism isn't a murder-suicide pact. Well, unless the parties involved agree it is. Then, who are we to judge? As long as people aren't dying in the street.

      1. Unlabelable MJGreen   8 years ago

        Unless the street owner agreed to it in the contract.

    5. CE   8 years ago

      And that's the first touchdown from Houston in New Orleans in a long, long time.

    6. CE   8 years ago

      Yeah, I remember after Katrina all the libertarians praising FEMA.

  27. Ghatanathoah   8 years ago

    If it's ableist to have an abortion because the fetus has Down Syndrome, does that also mean that it's classist to have an abortion because you can't afford to have a baby right now? For that matter, is it classist to wait to have a baby until you're a little more financially secure?

  28. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    Hurricane Harvey touched down in Louisiana Wednesday morning.

    I've checked your weather vernacular and found it wanting.

  29. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    A federal appeals court ruled that cops couldn't charge someone with obstructing justice merely for being critical of them.

    How are the kings men to do their jobs if the peons are critiquing them???

  30. Tony   8 years ago

    You all are a bunch of dogmatists and assholes, do you know that?

    Like, not suitable guests at any party. Real shitweasels. How many of you carry some kind of nerdy dagger on your belt? What about nunchucks?

    God you people suck.

    1. ace_m82   8 years ago

      Ad hominem

      1. Tony   8 years ago

        That's just what someone who carries nunchucks would say.

        1. BYODB   8 years ago

          And now circular reasoning. We should really have 'Tony Logical Fallacy Bingo' cards made up and distributed so at least we can play a game with your lack of morality, intelligence, and rationality.

        2. ace_m82   8 years ago

          Ad hominem X2

    2. CE   8 years ago

      It's actually a pretty cool dagger, not nerdy at all.

    3. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

      I carry a folding knife. It's decent quality and a handy tool.

    4. Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting   8 years ago

      You all are a bunch of dogmatists and assholes, do you know that?

      Do you hate us because we're pieces of you?

  31. Bra Ket   8 years ago

    Meanwhile, I've contended that the past decades of testing, genetic consultation, and decision-making about abortion related to prenatal diagnoses of Down syndrome have served as a kind of test run for the future of human procreation. Can we make informed choices? Can we understand that probability doesn't equate to outcome when we're talking genetic makeup? Can we use science to build a more just, happier humanity?

    Whoa that took a turn for the worse. How about "can we use science to make our lives easier"? Ireland proves yes.

    1. BYODB   8 years ago

      So...is it cool if we just axe any of our kids until we finally get the gender we want? Asking for a friend's entire nation.

  32. Agammamon   8 years ago

    Prenatal testing followed by selective abortion is not genetic engineering

    Uhm, that's *exactly* what it is. Its just using the very old 'evolution' method of genetic engineering - random mutation and selection.

    Eugenics is just the crudest form of genetic engineering - but its one we've got 10,000 years of experience with.

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