Vermont's Governor Vetoes Marijuana Legalization Bill Over Concerns About Driver Impairment
Republican Gov. Phil Scott cited absence of a roadside sobriety test for THC.
Earlier this month, the Vermont legislature became the first in the nation to pass a marijuana legalization measure. Today, Gov. Phil Scott became the first state executive to veto such a bill.
According to Vermont alternative weekly Seven Days, Gov. Phil Scott "said he does not consider marijuana legalization a priority and has concerns about the lack of a roadside test to detect driver impairment."
The absence of a reliable roadside sobriety test for THC is a misleading excuse for striking down legislation that would do more to remove criminal penalties for adult possession than it would to create a marijuana market that might conceivably increase drug use. Similar to D.C.'s legalization measure, Vermont's S.22 decriminalized possession of an ounce (or less) and allowed residents to possess two mature plants; in both cases, only for adults older than 21. The bill would not have established a tax-and-regulate system, or legalized person-to-person sales. In essence, it simply removed the civil penalties the state adopted when it decriminalized possession in 2013.
As for the road safety issue: The link between THC content in the blood and impairment is very murky, and no one has spent more time exploring that issue than Reason's Jacob Sullum. In 2016, he reviewed several reports from AAA that looked at THC-related traffic incidents. One of those reports was based on THC-related traffic incident data in Washington state between 2005 and 2014 (Washington, along with Colorado, legalized marijuana in 2012). AAA reported a 30 percent increase in THC-related traffic incidents events over that period; yet 66 percent of drivers who tested positive for THC in fatal accidents also tested positive for other substances, which was also true for 73 percent of THC-positive drivers involved in non-fatal accidents. It is not possible, in such circumstances, to isolate marijuana as the cause of a traffic incident.
Even the Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Traffic Area concedes that a positive test for THC--which remains in the body long after the drug's impairing effects have subsidided--does "not necessarily prove that marijuana was the cause of the incident."
Another study from AAA that sought to identify a THC blood level cutoff for impairment found "no clear relationship between THC blood levels in DUI arrestees and performance on roadside sobriety tests." While people with THC in their systems performed less well than the sober control group, Sullum noted that the failure rate in the latter ranged from 33 percent to 51 percent. That "makes you wonder how accurate these tests are as measures of impairment."
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, meanwhile, reported in 2015 that while "the impairment effects for various concentration levels of alcohol in the blood or breath are well understood, there is little evidence available to link concentrations of other drugs to driver performance."
Scott's apparent insistence on a black-and-white measure for determing THC-related driver impairment puts Vermont legalization advocates in a tough spot: The best science can tell us if a person has THC in their body, but not whether (or how) it affected their driving. Scott is reportedly open to reconsidering the bill during a special session dedicated to vetoed legislation. If the Vermont legislature is able to negotiate on the impaired driving issue, they should be mindful of the consequences of accepting a zero-tolerance policy. Michigan has such a law, and it recently resulted in a woman who tested positive for THC being sentenced to six months in jail for an accident she did not cause.
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**ck that guy. What an ***hole.
S* m*ch th*s.
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Fuckin' a.
Christ, what a cunt.
What a dishonest sack of shit. Fuck you Phil. Fuck you.
There's nothing we can't solve by throwing more junkies in rape cages for not driving fast enough.
Fun fact:: Pot smokers are not "junkies," and most prison "rape" is consensual sex.
Is that how you cope with it?
DanO.|5.24.17 @ 2:25PM|#
"Fun fact::"
DanO's a lying piece of shit and not one word she posts is to be credited.
Oh, and fuck off.
Turd, fuck, daddy!
Driving is a privilege, maaan.
bullshit....well thats my thought but....I am just a pleb.
Jeez. The worst thing a stoned person is going to do is drive slow. That and turn around after they miss their turn.
Or murder an entire family of bicyclists.
Crusty, do you have something to tell us?
No I do not, undercover police officer.
They were just ducklings, but Crusty was on quite a hallucinogenic cocktail, so he saw little bicycles.
You sure about that?
Have you even seen Reefer Madness?
"Jeez. The worst thing a stoned person is going to do is drive slow. That and turn around after they miss their turn."
Of course, I have no direct experience, but I have been told by reliable sources that drunk drivers are far more dangerous, and yet booze is still legal.
How can that be in a polity dedicated to truth and reason?
Vermont should hire that Georgia cop who doesn't need tests to figure out who is or isn't on drugs.
DanO.|5.10.17 @ 8:30PM|#
Vermont Legislature Becomes First In Nation to Legalize Recreational Marijuana
Too bad it takes a governor's signature to make it, you know, the law.
I'd like to volunteer this guy along with Chris Christie to be first governors on Mars.
If we could get them sent out on a ship tomorrow, that'd be great mmmkay.
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This guy should be thrown in a fucking cage just to taste a little of the suffering he so willing imposes on others.
Why is any kind of field sobriety test necessary?
If someone causes an accident, then they have committed some other kind of traffic violation regardless of their state of mind. If someone is in an accident but did not commit a traffic violation, then it hardly matters whether or not they are fully sober. If someone is driving erratically or unsafely, then the police have a tremendous amount of discretion to issue that person a citation or to prevent them driving any further (such as with people who have diabetic issues or other health problems).
The only reason a field sobriety test must exist is to make issuing a DUI an open-and-shut case. Otherwise, the state would have to actually prove that a person was driving unsafely before they can prosecute.
See also: hate crimes.
^ Quantity over quality.
DanO.|5.24.17 @ 2:38PM|#
"^ Quantity over quality."
Stupidity over anything.
Oh, and fuck off.
Turd, daddy, fuck!
If a sober person runs a red light while speeding and hits someone who has been drinking, but is otherwise following the rules of the road, then there will be one citation issued at the accident: DUI.
I know this from personal experience. While riding a bicycle after a couple drinks I was hit by a car driven by a teenager who sped up to beat a red light and nailed me in the middle of the intersection.
I was charged with DUI and had to fix the car that hit me.
Field sobriety tests exist to generate probable cause, period. The error rate is higher than for polygraphs, and so-called drug recognition experts are just making shit up because there isn't a dog handy. If they ask you to do a field sobriety test, you're already getting arrested and now they are just gathering evidence. Or "evidence".
Google the names: Michael Brown, Sandra Bland, Levy Pongi. What do you find?
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You find that each one of these African-Americans committed suicide. Michael Brown! After ingesting marijuana Michael attacked an armed, Ferguson Missouri police officer two times - in the space of a couple of minutes. Think about it. Michael attacked an armed policeman twice in a couple of minutes. His behavior was suicidal.
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What happened to Sandra Bland? She had marijuana in her system. She was arrested. She was placed in a jail cell, where she hung herself and died. Another suicide.
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And how about Levy Pongi, the young Black medical student in Colorado. He bought and ate a marijuana-laced cookie, returned to his hotel room and jumped out of the window, killing himself. Another suicide.
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It is a medical fact that many drugs affect races differently. Some drugs have bad side-effects that affect one race more than another. Marijuana may be one of those bad-acting drugs and a deadly side-effects seems to be that it causes some African-Americans to commit suicide.
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The marijuana industry is Racist? Because the justification for marijuana sales is that White Boys Need Their Recreation. Let's re-think whether we should allow the marijuana industry to exist.
What're you smokin', bro? Think you better lay off that shit for a while.
Coincidence does not equal causation.
You're correct.
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And since only Blacks are dying, why bother to investigate?
Too much freedom can be a bad thing when the state can't figure out how to profit from it.
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This is not an adequate reason to veto legalization. I have developed an app called DRUID (an acronym for "DRiving Under the Influence of Drugs"), now in the App Store for the iPad and iPhone (Android version coming soon). DRUID measures reaction time, hand-eye coordination, balance, time estimation, and decision making and integrates all the measures into an overall impairment score. DRUID demonstrates that measuring marijuana impairment is available now. The app also permits individuals to assess their own level of impairment (or that of the designated driver) and determine whether they are impaired. See more at http://www.druidapp.com
DRUID was recently featured on All Things Considered: http://www.npr.org/2017/01/25/.....-much-weed
After getting my Ph.D. at Harvard, I have been a professor in the Psychology Department at UMass/Boston for 40 years, with a specialty in research methods, measurement and statistics.
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Why is everyone pushing for legalization? Is pot really that hard to find? You will wish you were careful about what you wished for when the government puts the screws to you because you drove after smoking a little pot last night (week? month?).
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