Sex Offender Registry

14-Year-Old Boy Facing Assault Charge, Sex Offender Registry for Sex with 12-Year-Old Girl

"He loved her. They were boyfriend-girlfriend."

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A Houston-area seventh-grade boy has been charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child because he engaged in consensual sex with his sixth-grade girlfriend.

Unless a judge decides to show leniency, he could be forced to register as a sex offender.

That's according to the Houston Chronicle, which redacted the names of both kids. The boy is 14, the girl, 12. Are they too young to be engaged in a sexual relationship? Sure. But what business is it of the state's? Who is well-served by criminalizing this kind of thing? Certainly not the boy, who will face significant difficulties finishing school, getting into college, finding a job, and even just finding a place to live, if he is placed on the sex offender registry.

"The idea that a 14-year-old who has sex with a person just a little bit younger then him or her would be treated as the worst of the worst in our society and placed on the sex offender registry is really sick," the teen's attorney, Joseph Gutheinz, told the Chronicle.

It's as sick as the law is arbitrary. In Texas, teens are immune from prosecution for underage sex if they are within 3 years of age of each other. But this does not apply if either party is over the age of 18, or under the age of 14. If the sexual encounter had taken place two months earlier, before the boy's 14th birthday, it would not have been a crime.

We don't know the whole story: it's certainly possible the boy did something worse, something that merits police intervention. But it doesn't sound like that's the case:

"He had consensual sex with his little girlfriend and he loved her. They were boyfriend-girlfriend," the teen's mother told the Chronicle. "And because he turned 14, they want to make him a sex offender, put him on the registry with pedophiles and child molesters—really sick and dangerous people."

Actually, the sex offender registry is not just for pedophiles and child molesters. Plenty of perfectly non-dangerous individuals—including kids—end up on the registry for the kind of crime this mother's son is accused of committing. It's wrong, and the laws sustaining this sort of moral panic need to change.

In the meantime, maybe Harris County could go easy on Romeo and Juliet.

Related: The State Has Stopped Trying to Wreck a Teenage Boy's Life Because He Sexted His Girlfriend (For Now)

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  1. We don’t know the whole story: it’s certainly possible the boy did something worse, something that merits police intervention.

    Or maybe he just really likes green bananas.

    1. “We don’t know the whole story: ……..” but Robby has to get his salacious story out there anyway.

    2. Is there alt-text? With this android phone, I ain’t got no idea. But if there is, I hope it says “Hnnnggggh!!!”

  2. He had consensual sex with his little girlfriend and he loved her. They were boyfriend-girlfriend

    Just kids being kids.

  3. Romeo and Juliet
    Samson and Delilah
    Baby you can bet
    Their love they didn’t deny
    Your words say split
    But your words they lie
    ‘Cause when we kiss
    Mmmmmm, Fire
    Fire

  4. Fool me once…

  5. When I was 14, my friend and I were definitely trying to get laid. He had a gf who was 12 and they did it often. I had one my age and never got there, only making out. Guess she wasn’t as horny as the other one. Had to wait for 15 and with another (not as attractive) girl.

    Anyway, this story is so typical and ordinary and that’s what makes it so ridiculous. This shit is going on all over the place and has been since forever, but this one kid is getting a reaming because of adult idiocy and his own bad luck.

    1. this one kid is getting a reaming because of adult idiocy and his own bad luck

      Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that the girl’s dad walked in on them or something and instead of beating the shit out of the kid, like dads tended to do in the old days, he called the cops and reported him instead.

      Used to people handled their own problems and only turned to State sanctioned violence as a last resort or if it was something really serious. /get off my lawn

      1. When I was 17 I had a gf for most of the year and I would be at her house all the time, hanging out with her parents and everything. We would stay up after her parents would go to sleep and make out, etc. We had been going out for a while and I just assumed that her parents assumed that we had sex. I mean, they would go to sleep and leave us alone all the time. We were always out late, stuff like that. One night after her parents went to sleep I think her dad heard us or something. The next day he flips out on me talking about how I must think he’s an idiot and how dare I take advantage of his daughter and the like. He was trying to scare me, but the whole time I’m just perplexed thinking we all understood how it was. Maybe it was some form of pressure to marry. I’ll bet that’s what it really was. Maybe he thought I would say “But, kind sire. I was planning on asking for your fair daughter’s hand.” Then she started asking shit like “If I got pregnant, what would you do?” Uh… Thankfully I went off to college and we broke up soon after. Dodged that bullet.

        1. I think if you have a teenage daughter and she’s been dating the same teenage guy for more than 2-3 weeks, odds are they’re fuckin’. I used to be a teenage boy, so I know how they think: they’re not sticking around that long for the brilliant conversation or long walks on the beach or some such horseshit. They’re sticking around ’cause your little girl’s a freak. But of course, everyone wants to assume that their little girl is a precious, unspoiled virginal flower until the day you walk them down the aisle on their wedding day. Yeah, right.

        2. See, its one of those ‘you know, but you don’t *know*, you know’ sort of deals. Like how someone can ‘know’ their spouse is cheating, but as long as nothing happens to *force* it to their attention they just . . . don’t know.

          And as soon as that happens they flip the fuck out because now they have no plausible way to deny knowing and have to deal with something they didn’t want to deal with.

  6. Correct – the sex offender registry is not for dangerous pedophiles and rapists — that place is PRISON. If you are too dangerous to be out in public somewhere, then you should be in fucking prison. A friend’s friend is on the list for getting drunk, walking home from a bar, and peeing in a park at 2AM. Seriously.

    I don’t have kids but I have a 13yo cousin and shit like this makes me paranoid for him. One wrong more and your life is over. Especially when they have smartphones. Idiot prosecutors and idiot juries are ruining kids lives for doing what kids will do. Do these idiots not realize half of them would be in prison if the laws were like this 30, 40, 50 years ago?

    1. Do these idiots not realize half of them would be in prison if the laws were like this 30, 40, 50 years ago?

      No.

    2. When one of my nephews was 13 he knocked up a 12 year old girl “She was the only one who would have sex with me” The son turned 12 last fall. He’s married with two more, she’s single but has an 8 year old daughter.

    3. When I was 19 I was friends with a 17 year old guy who told me he did it with an 11 year old at a beer party. I was dating his 13 year old sister.

      The next year, when I was 20, I was dating at 15 year old. I brought her home for dinner and my dad thought she was immature, so he recommended another 15 year old who lived down the street. He also gave me a box of condoms and warned me against bringing home any “mistakes”.

      1. You really should have kept all that to yourself. Its not anywhere near acceptable and basically you two should have gone to jail.

        1. It really wasn’t unusual. But I was a virgin when I got married.

        2. It really wan’t unusual. And I was a virgin when I got married.

        3. 11 is way too young, but I’d heard of it.

          High school & college kids hung out together, so that’s ages 15 to 21. We were all at home, going to school, maybe had a job. 18 wasn’t some bright line – really no line at all.

          Not just to kids, put to parents as well. My dad wasn’t as concerned about the number as making sure they were mature and generally worth the effort. I only brought the 15 year old home once, but I was at her house all the time. Her parents thought I was a great catch (but she dumped me)

          My Dad assumed I was getting some, but I was too big a dweeb. It took me until college to get enough courage to ask girls out, and after awhile got past first base, but never scored. He couldn’t conceive I was that hopeless. I got married at 25, honestly a virgin (not for lack of trying)

          1. There’s no way you got married at 25 as a virgin for lack of trying. I mean, at the very least, your fiancee

            1. I was painfully shy and feared rejection. My first date was the spring of my senior year in high school. From then until I met the woman I eventually married was 5 years. I was gradually working my way into being able to talk to and occasionally go out with a girl, and a handful of times got to 3rd base. When I met my wife she made clear she wasn’t giving it up until marriage, although we messed around some. About a month before we got married we were in a hotel room (we went to another city where I was looking for employment) but she swears to this day that I missed and had it between her legs. I had no previous experience to judge whether she was fibbing to protect her honor.

              Point is, as mentioned below, one’s 18th birthday or graduation from high school weren’t considered to suddenly bestow adulthood on “children.” Parents judged the maturity, responsibility and general potential of their children’s chosen dating partners. They told us not to have sex while realizing not many would take the advice (or fail so miserably at it)

              Kids consensually fooling around with other kids may not always be right but it shouldn’t be a crime. And by “kid” I’m thinking anyone who’s physically mature, living at home and still in school.

  7. But without lists, how would we know who it is Ok to hate?

    /Progressive

  8. I wish you had named the prosecutor so that those in the area know who to campaign against.

  9. But the publicly masturbating NFL security guard does not warrant sex offender status? The sex offender registry should be eliminated for moral and Constitutional reasons. Its inconsistent, arbitrary application provides plenty of evidence for that. But what politician will stick their neck out?

  10. Well, their love is gonna be written down in history https://youtu.be/zX1-e0w3mUw

  11. What is that? 7th and 9th grade?

    This is why we segregate our schools into only two grades at a time…

  12. Oh no, is this Reason’s “Milo” moment?

  13. That’s according to the Houston Chronicle, which redacted the names of both kids.

    So, too young to have their names in the Houston newspaper, but the local Houston offender website is hunky-dory.
    And if kids that young steal a car, or kill someone, they’re too young for the DA to release their names.

  14. Are they too young to be engaged in a sexual relationship? Sure. But what business is it of the state’s?

    None at all. That’s why private vigilante gangs should deal with it, just like in the good old days of peaceful Irish anarchy.

    1. You see, in order for the “private vigilantes” to be able to commit an act of force without initiating it, the party upon whom the force is acted must have initiated it. And, as it seems no initiation of force occurred in this case, the “private vigilantes” couldn’t do jack.

      The state, on the other hand, is almost certainly initiating force here, unless there is more to the story than what we now know.

      So what you’ve attempted to “prove”, that “private vigilantes” would initiate force whenever they want has been shown to be untrue, and what you are attempting to defend, the state, is initiating force whenever they want to. So you’ve committed a failure of the first order.

      Good day, Sir!

      1. I think he was trying to be hyperbolic in sarcasm. DanO likes his statists plentiful and all powerful.

  15. The idea of sex offender registries was an offshoot of the child porn and pedo scare in the late 1990’s. State legislatures jumped on the bandwagon in their eagerness to create a list of pedophiles. But once the lists were created at considerable time and expense, legislators faced strong criticism because the lists were fairly short. Legislators responded by expanding the lists with the names of non-pedophile sex offenders. When the lists still remained fairly short, they expanded them with non-sexual crimes like public nudity and public urination. The legislators in the state of CT even went so far as to propose going back 50 years and adding the names of persons whose prior offenses encompassed the expanded definitions. Only a strong public outcry prevented this from becoming law.
    At the same time Legislators began raising the age of consent which in most states ranged from 12-14. This turned young teens into sexual criminals. This is an issue that should be left up to the parents.

    1. They didn’t just propose going back years and years…..they DID….I read a story of one guy that was off probation back in like 1972….The man had led an exemplary life since his offense…….then, in the late 90’s his name was put on the list w/o even notifying him……his daughter, at that point, a girl around 14 in junior high school….was harassed and himiliated to the point of killing herself!!! IMO, the Legislators are guilty of that gilrs death……

  16. So is the death penalty for speeding next?

  17. “We don’t know the whole story: it’s certainly possible the boy did something worse, something that merits police intervention.”

    I didn’t look at who wrote this when I first started reading, but as soon as I read this sentence, it immediately dawned on me that I was reading something by Robby ” hem and haw” Suave.

  18. “Soave”…fuck.

    1. “Soave” Is that lime covfefe?

      1. That was suppoaed to be “like” covfefe…..

  19. The thing is, “they” are not enforcing the “Laws” and putting nearly enough people that are guilty on the Registries!! The fact is, every female that gets pregnant underage is guilty of a sex offense and the proof is right there is the crib. As a minor, they are not legally capable of “consent.” Every underage boy that gets his girlfriend pregnant is also guilty…..they should ALL be registered. This sound crazy? Of course….it IS crazy….BUT, it is the way the Laws are written…..as long as they are ignoring these “sexual deviants(?)” while still putting all the other people on…..i.e., 19 y/o bf, senior in HS knocks uphis 17 y/o junior in HS gf…..results in his life destroyed…..forbidden from contact with his gf and any contact with his child until he is released and no longer “supervised” and even then likely cannot attend his kids school functions because there are “children” therebesides his own……

    Putting these people that have practically zero chance of reoffending into virtual isolation……well, that only creates a situation that increases his chances of committing….”something(?)” Out of sheer hatred for the “system” if nothing else…..

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