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Tech Companies File Brief Against Immigration Order, Trump Says Media Conceals Terror Attacks, Uber Working on Flying Cars: P.M. Links

Scott Shackford | 2.6.2017 4:30 PM

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    Nearly 100 tech companies, including the likes of Apple, Google, Netflix, and Uber, have signed a friend of the court brief opposing President Donald Trump's immigration executive orders.

  • Trump in a speech to service members told them that there are so many terrorist attacks that the "dishonest media" is not reporting them. Because, you know, the media is famous for its tendency to downplay violence.
  • So, reportedly Trump was not fully aware of all the details of the order that restructured the National Security Council to add advisor Stephen Bannon to it, and he's not happy to have found out afterward.
  • Democrats are engaged in a final 24-hour push to try to keep Betsy DeVos, school choice advocate, to be named head of the Department of Education.
  • Uber has hired a NASA expert to help them craft a concept of flying cars. (Insert an "It's Happening!" gif on your own here.)
  • The company at the center of a bribery scandal over Chicago's red-light camera program will be paying the city back $20 million.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Uber has hired a NASA expert to help them craft a concept of flying cars.

    I'll wait for the flying taxis, thank you very much.

    1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      Ha ha at sucker below you. /Nelson Munz

    2. Juvenile Bluster   8 years ago

      What about self-driving flying taxis?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

        As long as it's blessed by a commission somewhere, I feel safe.

        1. Jerry on the sea   8 years ago

          It helps if you're a Diamond Medallion member.

    3. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

      Hello.

    4. The Last American Hero   8 years ago

      Even better, they are going to be powered by cold fusion reactors. The tech is apparently just around the corner...

      1. PBR Streetgang   8 years ago

        Its 3 years away
        and always will be

        1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

          How long until the time machine?

          1. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

            It's irrelevant.

          2. Libertarian   8 years ago

            As Stephen Hawking said, if time travel were possible we'd be visited by people from the future.

            1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

              Not necessarily. Even though I don't think time travel is possible, there could be many reasons why we have not been visited, if it is.

          3. Episteme   8 years ago

            Would you want to visit us if you were a time traveler?

      2. Rich   8 years ago

        Ten years out, so yes.

  2. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

    Uber has hired a NASA expert to help them craft a concept of flying cars

    what we've been waiting for

    1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

      I've been waiting for jetpacks, but that would be a little awkward sharing one with an Uber contractor.

      1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

        Eh, it might be fun. *thinks of Uber contractor as Scarlett Johannson

    2. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

      Flying cars ?ber alles.

    3. Mickey Rat   8 years ago

      Like drones, no flying cars allowed within 30 miles of anything worth riding a flying car to.

      1. Tonio   8 years ago

        ^This.

    4. Zeb   8 years ago

      People have a hard enough time being aware of what's going on around them when they only have to navigate in 2 dimensions.

      Anyway, we already have flying cars. They're called helicopters.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Democrats are engaged in a final 24-hour push to try to keep Betsy DeVos, school choice advocate, to be named head of the Department of Education.

    Keeping their eye on the prize, as always.

    1. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

      If everything's a crisis, what will they do when there's a real crisis?

      1. Col. Chestbridge   8 years ago

        They're just practicing so that they've got panic down to an art when it's finally called for.

      2. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

        Shriek louder.

      3. Zeb   8 years ago

        If only there were some frequently alluded to parable that was applicable here.

        1. DesigNate   8 years ago

          I'm not sure how the Tortoise and the Hare fits this scenario.

        2. Anomalous   8 years ago

          I seem to remember something about falling wolves, or crying skies.

          1. Anomalous   8 years ago

            Speaking of crying skies.

        3. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

          The parable of Warty and the Nazi Muff of Doom?

          1. Pi Guy   8 years ago

            That. Was. Epic.

      4. Juice   8 years ago

        Opportunity you mean?

    2. buybuydandavis   8 years ago

      Keeping their eye on the prize, as always.

      The Left fights for nothing harder than control of their propaganda organs.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Nearly 100 tech companies, including the likes of Apple, Google, Netflix, and Uber, have signed a friend of the court brief opposing President Donald Trump's immigration executive orders.

    UNFRIEND

    1. Anomalous   8 years ago

      No, seriously. DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT.

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        But first, write a 1000 word essay on why you are deleting your account.

    2. Hayeksplosives   8 years ago

      That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

        I enjoyed that.

        1. Hayeksplosives   8 years ago

          😀

  5. Crusty Juggler - #2   8 years ago

    So, reportedly Trump was not fully aware of all the details of the order that restructured the National Security Council to add advisor Stephen Bannon to it, and he's not happy to have found out afterward.

    Bad!

    1. DJF   8 years ago

      But its reportedly from the NYT so its fake news

      1. Jerry on the sea   8 years ago

        "I am shocked, shocked to find that leaking stories to the press is going on in here!"

  6. Mazakon   8 years ago

    Democrats are engaged in a final 24-hour push to try to keep Betsy DeVos, school choice advocate, to be named head of the Department of Education.

    I say either put her vote up or straight-up abolish the DoE.

    1. DJF   8 years ago

      If DeVos is voted down then the department should be shut down since we would not a rogue agency with no leadership

      1. Ted S.   8 years ago

        since we would not a rogue agency with no leadership

        Without a federal department of education, people won't learn how to use verbs properly!

        1. Rich   8 years ago

          Sure they will, Ted.

          The great thing about English is that any noun can be verbed.

          1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

            Ted Tedded,
            Rich Riched,
            And I shedded,
            My rhyming need.

            1. Rich   8 years ago

              Exactly!

            2. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

              Ted Tedded,
              Rich Riched,
              And I shedded,

              My rhyme, bitched.

      2. DesigNate   8 years ago

        It would be sweet if they voted her down and he put up Michelle Rhee (sp?). The gnashing of teeth and screeching from the left would be epic.

        1. Tonio   8 years ago

          Yeah, and Rhee has credentials and experience. Plus, it would be really bad form (unprecedented) to reject two consecutive nominees for the same position. I believe it's been 28 years since the last cabinet nominee was rejected.

          1. Anomalous   8 years ago

            Plus she's not white.

            1. Hyperion   8 years ago

              If she doesn't align with leftists, then yes, she is effectively whited.

        2. Rich   8 years ago

          Beautiful.

        3. Marty Feldman's Eyes   8 years ago

          It would be sweet if they voted her down and he put up Michelle Rhee

          I suspect she's too smart to be interested in being part of Trump's cabinet.

  7. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

    Democrats are engaged in a final 24-hour push to try to keep Betsy DeVos

    Push it real good. / SaltanPeppa

    1. Rhywun   8 years ago

      "I'm pushing it real good."

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        No doubt you are, Rhywun.

    2. Ted S.   8 years ago

      Relevant.

  8. Crusty Juggler - #2   8 years ago

    In Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology, the gods are tragic and petty

    The first time Neil Gaiman wrote about the Norse gods, they were the con men at the heart of American Gods, subsisting off petty grifts in belief-starved America. Now, with Starz's anticipated TV adaptation of American Gods set to debut later this year, Gaiman has returned to the Norse myth cycle in Norse Mythology, a kind of D'Aulaires-style book of Norse myths that gives them the structure of a story.

    It's no wonder Gaiman turns to the Norse gods over and over again, because they have one of the most appealingly bloody and petty mythologies of any pantheon out there. Loki, the trickster, is forever murdering and maiming for the sheer glee of it. Thor, the god of thunder, endlessly bashes heads with his hammer at the slightest offense. Odin, the All-Father, thinks nothing of plucking out his own eye.

    1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      I liked his American Gods books.

      1. Col. Chestbridge   8 years ago

        Agreed. In fact I can't think of anything I've read from Gaiman that I didn't like.

      2. Zeb   8 years ago

        That's next on my reading list. I have yet to encounter anyone who doesn't strongly recommend it.

        1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

          I recommend it, but not strongly.

          1. Episteme   8 years ago

            It's worth reading. It didn't change my life, but it was a good read well worth the time that I took reading it.

            (In this case, it was it was the slow last-week-of-the-year in the office at work, where I read it in my cubicle and checked my email in between chapters)

        2. Mr Drew   8 years ago

          I'm way in the minority but I thought it was absolutely terrible. If you go to Amazon and look at the most helpful 1 star reviews, I'd agree with many of those.

          Vague, random, pointless, disconnected. I suspect it was written on bad acid.

    2. Rich   8 years ago

      Is this the religion where *everyone* goes to Hell?

      1. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

        No, only people who die as unworthy. Those who die well in battle go to eternal party, with mead, wenches and fights to the death. But it's OK, all the death are resurrected and ready to go the next day - not even a hangover.

        Greek myth is where everyone goes to hell, even if some bits are nice (Elysian fields) and some are punishment (Tartarus). I guess, with the exception of lucky few who get to be stars in the sky.

      2. Griffin3   8 years ago

        No, you are thinking of Sithrak.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Trump in a speech to service members told them that there are so many terrorist attacks that the "dishonest media" is not reporting them.

    In the president's defense, different people find different things terrifying. For instance, the White House considers presidential criticism a terrorist attack.

    1. TheZeitgeist   8 years ago

      Terrorist Melissa McCarthy droned live TV ratings so high.

      #isiscanthide

  10. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

    Roxanne!
    You don't have to bribe for the red lights!

    1. Crusty Juggler - #2   8 years ago

      Oh my goodness.

    2. jack sprat   8 years ago

      I smiled because of how far a reach that was.

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        I love long reaches like that.

    3. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

      Speaking of The Police, the last time they performed around here me and buddy scored a couple of free tickets and went. Their rendition of Roxanne was absolutely atrocious - one of the worst things I ever heard. It literally ruined my life.

      1. jack sprat   8 years ago

        The Police almost ruined my life too when I was a kid, but I got away!

      2. The Fusionist   8 years ago

        ...now you're a mere shell of a man, wasting time on the Internet...wait, let me reconsider that insult...

  11. Crusty Juggler - #2   8 years ago

    Media Critic Michael Wolff to CNN's Brian Stelter: You Run Risk of Becoming a 'Ridiculous Figure' in Vilifying Trump

    Shortly after Donald Trump's stunning victory in November, Wolff took fellow journalists to task for their collective fake outrage after Trump ditched them to enjoy dinner in New York City with his family, minus the media circus.

    Since then, relentlessly negative coverage of Trump has only reinforced a widespread perception that many in media are motivated by the "new grail" of destroying Trump, Wolff suggested on CNN's Reliable Sources today.

    1. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

      How long afterwards did CNN ask him to clean out his desk?

    2. The Last American Hero   8 years ago

      Apparently they are unaware that Samantha Bee literally destroyed Trump 42 times prior to the election.

      1. Private Chipperbot   8 years ago

        We watch TBS for the Seinfeld reruns and the commercials for her show make me want to shoot the television.

        1. Rhywun   8 years ago

          If she has any bits that aren't unfunny "beatdowns" of Trump, I haven't seen them in the commercials.

  12. TheZeitgeist   8 years ago

    The company at the center of a bribery scandal over Chicago's red-light camera program will be paying the city back $20 million.

    $20 million should sparkle the dumpster fire a little brighter for about a week.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

      They're going to have to really step up their red light ticketing to pay that bill.

    2. Juvenile Bluster   8 years ago

      The odds that any of that money actual goes into the city's general fund instead of into the pockets of aldermen and the mayor have to be pretty low.

  13. Ted S.   8 years ago

    For the gridiron fans.

    1. Juice   8 years ago

      She should have run the fucking ball!

  14. Tonio   8 years ago

    Good evening, everyone. My account is now linked to my anonymous email address. Click on my name.

    1. jack sprat   8 years ago

      clickbait??

      1. jack sprat   8 years ago

        /only kidding

      2. Hyperion   8 years ago

        It says TonioForHillary@something.com, I think, I don't have my glasses on.

        1. Hyperion   8 years ago

          Oh, wait, that was Tonio4Liberty, not Hillary! I often get those 2 things mixed up.

    2. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      Email sent Tonio.

  15. Crusty Juggler - #2   8 years ago

    Retired general: Trump's Putin remarks may be 'most anti-American statement' ever by president

    Former Gen. Barry McCaffrey on Monday said President Donald Trump's recent comments about Russian President Vladimir Putin may be "the most anti-American statement" ever made by a commander-in-chief.

    "I'm actually incredulous that the president would make a statement like that," McCaffrey told MSNBC.

    "One could argue that's the most anti-American statement ever made by the president of the United States. To confuse American values with Putin, who is running a criminal oligarchy."

    When has Barry McCaffrey ever been wrong before?

    1. Ted S.   8 years ago

      Wasn't he a former "drug tsar"?

      1. Rich   8 years ago

        That's "czar". Please speak American.

      2. Tonio   8 years ago

        Yes, that asshole.

      3. Episteme   8 years ago

        So, literally a drug kingpin? Go get him, Daredevil!

    2. Conchfritters   8 years ago

      Putin is running a criminal oligarchy? I thought he was a gas station masquerading as a country?

      1. Episteme   8 years ago

        Go get him as well, Daredevil!

    3. Jerry on the sea   8 years ago

      I think the real outrage is that for just a brief moment Trump was actually being sincere and telling the truth. Gives us our lying Trump back!

    4. TheZeitgeist   8 years ago

      "To confuse American values with Putin, who is running a criminal oligarchy."

      Sometimes the jokes write themselves.

      1. Hyperion   8 years ago

        "Putin, who is running a criminal oligarchy"

        So, we're basically criticizing Putin for doing what every American president has been doing since...?

        It's ok when we do it.

    5. Conchfritters   8 years ago

      Don Putin, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your home today on the day of your wedding to Trump... and I hope that your first child, be a masculine child.

      1. Hyperion   8 years ago

        What, are you kidding me? It will ride a bear with it's shirt off. The Trumputin child, not the bear. Bear's don't wear shirts.

    6. Anomalous   8 years ago

      Who knew Barry McCaffrey was still alive?

  16. greasonable   8 years ago

    Fwiw, I updated greasonable to allow you to filter stories on the front page.

    Right now, it is very simple, any patterns are checked against tags and the author name.

    A link is put in its place, should you actually want to read a filtered article.

    1. Juvenile Bluster   8 years ago
      1. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago
      2. greasonable   8 years ago

        I'm just going to assume that was a filtered out heart symbol

    2. Hyperion   8 years ago

      Did you create a fluff section? If not, I'm boycotting the comments section until all my demands are met.

      1. greasonable   8 years ago

        I am not sure I want to google that. Can you define it in PG-13 words?

        1. Hyperion   8 years ago

          Don't you Reason at all? Asking that question here is like asking what derp means.

  17. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

    Despite critics' claims, Dodd-Frank hasn't slowed lending to business or consumers

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/06.....umers.html

    In, fact, lending is up sharply each year since 2010 with annual records being set. Yet some conservative moron repeats the lie that "banks don't lend anymore" every hour on CNBC.

    1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      *collects more tears while looking at gold market

    2. The Last American Hero   8 years ago

      Are those loans created or saved by Dodd Frank?

    3. DesigNate   8 years ago

      I'll be sure to tell all my clients who couldn't get construction loans, in DFW, that they were obviously wrong and the banks are just handing out money left and right.

      1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

        Shitty credit.

        Bank lending for commercial is setting record highs every year.

        1. Hyperion   8 years ago

          This year, it's because Trump is the greatest prez ever, right shreek?

        2. Enough About Palin   8 years ago

          Aren't you that dumb fuck who didn't pay on a lost bet?

        3. american socialist   8 years ago

          Why werent you touting dodd frank the last year and years before?

      2. Juice   8 years ago

        It looks like the total amount being lent is higher, which is probably due to low interest rates. I'll bet the total number of loans is lower.

    4. Juice   8 years ago

      since 2010

      Are they higher than they were in 2006?

      1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

        By far.

  18. Ted S.   8 years ago

    Uber has hired a NASA expert to help them craft a concept of flying cars. (Insert an "It's Happening!" gif on your own here)

    It's Happening!

  19. The Late P Brooks   8 years ago

    I put this in AM lynx but I got it in really late, so just for the hell of it, I'll repost it here.

    -------------------

    A few days ago, several regular comment posters said they'd had enough, and were leaving, never to return.

    I haven't decided to leave COMPLETELY, but... $.02 worth. For a long time I thought Soave was merely "mostly useless" but after he did his little hit job on Tillerson, he can go DIAF. He comes up much too short in the "free minds and free markets" department to be taken seriously by the likes of me. For that matter, TDS has made many of the writers' tenuous grasp on free market libertarianism all too obvious. For all the jokes and jibes about "cosmotarianism" I really think most of of the staff have been completely assimilated by the Beltway Hive Mind. Suderman's comment about how he doesn't know anybody but NGO parasites, beltway liberals/writers/lobbyists/wonks and Hill staffers tells me as much as I need to know about him. He's just as far out in the TDS weeds as Tim Egan or Krugabe.

    Dalmia's tweets are... self-explanatory.

    It's not my magazine. It's not my blog. But, if you turn Road and Track into organic gardening weekly, don't be surprised if people start cancelling their [DRINK!] subscriptions en masse.

    And- as reason writers and articles get cross posted to places like the Daily Beast and Vox and HuffPo for all I know, Gresham's Law (internet commenter edition) will take effect.

    And besides, I have shit to attend to.

    1. Tonio   8 years ago

      Thanks, Brooksie. An alternative is said to be in the works. Anyone who wants updates on that can write to me and I'll make sure you are informed. I won't share your address without your permission. Click on my name and you'll see the address.

      1. Old Bull Lee   8 years ago

        Email inbound. I mostly lurk and will probably miss the exodus thread.

      2. kinnath   8 years ago

        sent

      3. sssbobbyr   8 years ago

        Add mine to the list please.

      4. G?C   8 years ago

        I'm mainly a lurker here, but have been reading Reason for years. Lately I've only been coming here to read the comments (I only scan the articles). I'd be missing much of my entertainment without the regulars here, so an email is forthcoming...

    2. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      Don't leave.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

        God you're so needy. IT'S NOT YOU. IT'S ME.

        1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

          You smell like maple syrup. Mmmmmm maple syrup and bacon. Too bad you're a guy...the French girls you have up there are hawt.
          MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

      2. Rich   8 years ago

        Seconded.

        I'm hoping Virginia Postrel will knock some sense into Reason's heads.

        1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

          She hates us more than her sagging breasts.

        2. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

          What this website needs is more glamor.

          1. Hyperion   8 years ago

            And cocktail parties. And cruises.

          2. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

            Cigarette-stained, sagging-breasts glamour.

        3. Hyperion   8 years ago

          Postrel hates the commentariat. How did you miss that?

          1. Rich   8 years ago

            Oh, I know, H. A poor attempt at humor.

    3. kbolino   8 years ago

      I'm not going to sugarcoat it. Reason is not quite what it used to be.

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        Funny that only the yokeltarians are complaining. It's almost as if there was a trend.

        1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

          Why does it have to be just yokeltarians? Why not embrace new comers and convince them of the pros of libertarianism. Do you think this site courting progressives will work?

          1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

            Progressives, no. Old school liberals, yes.

            1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

              They're not courting them. Do you think an old school liberal is on board with shitting your pants over illegal immigration? Trump got the middle class worker vote because of that issue. They were Democrats. Not progressives. Old school liberals.

        2. kbolino   8 years ago

          If the term "yokeltarian" can be applied to me, then it's lost all meaning.

          1. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

            This. 1A should be a cosmo fave.

          2. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

            Please explain why you think you are not a yokeltarian. I am genuinely curious.

            1. kbolino   8 years ago

              I don't have a problem with Muslims. I don't have a problem with immigrants. I don't buy the justifications for why we should keep Muslims out nor other kinds of immigrants.

              While my feelings on abortion itself are mixed, I don't think getting the state more involved in the matter is the answer. People talk about moral prerogatives but the state is not a moral agent.

              I think all drugs should be made legal. I don't know if that's a yokel-cosmo issue but it's certainly a conservative-liberal one.

              I don't have a problem with same-sex marriage even though I would much prefer the state be out of the marriage business. I certainly want to keep sodomy and other consenting acts legal.

              I still consider myself a libertarian even though I've been disappointed in Cato's position on guns and Reason's position on damn near everything lately.

              1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

                These purity tests will get the desired 1% of the population.

                1. straffinrun   8 years ago

                  "How many for dinner tonight sir?"
                  "As many as fit into my narrow and fluid political belief system."
                  "So, uh, Party of one?"

              2. GILMORE?   8 years ago

                All of those things are also accurate summaries of my own views

                I'd still be called a Yokeltarian because some people can't distinguish between criticizing an argument vs. endorsing its opposite.

                1. Cyto   8 years ago

                  I'd still be called a Yokeltarian because some people can't distinguish between criticizing an argument vs. endorsing its opposite.

                  This describes almost everyone. It drives me nuts.

                  Argument from authority and ad-homenim attacks are popular logical fallacies for a reason. We are apparently wired such that we cannot distinguish the person from the argument. This attachment of person and argument also leads to a binary "us against them" notion that leads to this phenomenon of "if you are against me, you must be with them".

                  And seeing that folks self-identifying as libertarian are often inveterate contrarians, this comes up a lot.

                  I've been stuck pointing out that people are wrong in their anti-Trump analysis quite a few times - simply because the analysis is deeply flawed. So despite being so anti-Trump that I was convinced that he wouldn't even get a single vote once the actual primaries began, I keep getting called a closet Trump supporter.

                  The smart thing to do would be to exorcise my "this is a stupid argument" demons and quit pointing out when people are being bat-shit crazy. But somehow I don't think that is in the cards.

    4. Hyperion   8 years ago

      3rd time I've posted this. Not familiar with this site at all, but there it is. Never have seen a comment there and not sure if anyone ever goes around there.

      Being Libertarian

      And no, it's not my blog and I'm not shilling for them. But people keep talking about leaving, so I assume looking for an alternative.

      1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

        Thanks.

    5. TheZeitgeist   8 years ago

      And- as reason writers and articles get cross posted to places like the Daily Beast and Vox and HuffPo for all I know, Gresham's Law (internet commenter edition) will take effect.

      And besides, I have shit to attend to.

      Thanks Obama.

  20. Tonio   8 years ago

    Trump in a speech to service members told them that there are so many terrorist attacks that the "dishonest media" is not reporting them.

    Going to be interesting to see how they wriggle out of that one. Either they are going to have to come up with a list of unreported attacks, or walk that back.

    1. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

      President Open-Mouth-Step-on-Dick opened his mouth again.
      He should stick to Twitter, where stupid doesn't stand out quite as much.

    2. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

      Going to be interesting to see how they wriggle out of that one. Either they are going to have to come up with a list of unreported attacks, or walk that back.

      Or, they could expand the definition of what's a terrorist attack. For example, perhaps a guy in a turban went past a local park giving young couples the 'you should fuck' sign of pumping his index finger repeatedly through a thumb-and-forefinger circle in his other hand, while moaning "Ohhhhhh, Akbar!"

    3. Hayeksplosives   8 years ago

      I assume he's talking about the media's labeling of Maj Hasan's workplace violence and the workplace violence of the San Bernardino couple. Maybe even the hate crime/gun violence in Orlando.

      Still, the dude needs a big freaking filter.

    4. Episteme   8 years ago

      Going to be interesting to see how they wriggle out of that one. Either they are going to have to come up with a list of unreported attacks, or walk that back.

      Trump has said that he gets his news from the "stories." We've assumed he means the news, but perhaps he means 24 (his source on the efficacy of torture), Designatec Survivor)...

      1. Episteme   8 years ago

        I meant the "the programs," not "the stories" (although I imagine Trump spending his afternoon watching the soaps). That still doesn't change my thesis.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    ...he's not happy to have found out afterward.

    So don't put away just yet those "when the president found out by reading the paper" jokes from the last administration, boys.

    1. Juvenile Bluster   8 years ago

      You could also go with "he had to sign the order to know what was in it"

    2. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      It's Fake News?, Donald!

    3. Fire Shikha   8 years ago

      Reading is clearly not his strong suit. Or speaking, actually. He's not really much of a thinker, either. He pretty much has no redeeming qualities.

      Now that I think about it, I'm hoping he's kept in the dark more

    4. Crusty Juggler - #2   8 years ago

      I still haven't put away my Gorbachev jokes.

      On a country lane, Gobachev meets up with an old man carrying a melon.

      Gorbachev offers to buy the melon. The man rubs it in the dirt and says, "Choose!"

      "How can I choose when you've only one melon?" Gorbachev asks.

      The man replies, "The same way we chose you."

      BOOM!

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        I was fully expecting a bird to shit on the melon and then old man getting confused and trying to sell Gorbachev's head.

  22. Rich   8 years ago

    Democrats are engaged in a final 24-hour push to try to keep Betsy DeVos, school choice advocate, to be named head of the Department of Education.

    Emphasis added. "If only."

  23. Crusty Juggler - #2   8 years ago

    Inside the White House-Cabinet battle over Trump's immigration order

    One White House official and one administration official told me that the Cabinet officials presented a united front and complained about the process that led to the issuance of the immigration executive order, focusing on their near-complete lack of consultation as well as the White House's reluctance to make what they saw as common-sense revisions, such as exempting green-card holders.

    Bannon and Miller pushed back, defending the White House's actions and explaining that the process and substance of the order had been kept to a close circle because the Trump administration had not yet installed its own officials in key government roles and other officials were still getting settled into place.

    The generals are going to have to take over.

    1. Anomalous   8 years ago

      The generals are going to have to take over.

      What could possibly go wrong?

  24. Mazakon   8 years ago

    Berkeley thug hits someone who "looks like a Nazi" but is a Syrian Muslim

    Then I saw someone wearing all black walk up to a student wearing a suit and say, "You look like a Nazi." The student was confused, but before he could reply, the black-clad person pepper-sprayed him and hit him on the back with a rod.

    I ran after the student who was attacked to get his name and more information. He told me that he is a Syrian Muslim. Before I could find out more, he fled, fearing another attack. Amid the chaos came word the event had been canceled.

    1. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

      Honest condemnation of #Berkley violence must also condemn those who look like some idiot's idea of a Nazi.What's point except baiting n inciting in Trump's America?

      1. Tonio   8 years ago

        Brilliant. She's never going to live that down, as well she shouldn't.

        1. DesigNate   8 years ago

          Fuck, I'm glad I've been too busy to read most of the articles lately. That sounds like some quality derp.

          1. Chipwooder   8 years ago

            Not articles, she fired off a series of increasingly embarrassing anti-speech tweets inspired by the riots in Berkeley. She also retweeted something from Mary Stack. No, really, she did.

            1. Libertarian   8 years ago

              I'm hoping somebody starts selling shirts that say "THIS IS LIBRARY!' I'd buy one.

            2. DesigNate   8 years ago

              Holy. Shit.

    2. Microaggressor   8 years ago

      Maybe he deserves just as much condemnation for looking so much like a Nazi that it triggered the peaceful protestor, who had no choice but to defend xerself.

      /Shikha

    3. lap83   8 years ago

      You know who else associated Arabs with Nazis?

      1. Ted S.   8 years ago

        The Baath Party?

      2. SimonD   8 years ago

        The Arabs?

      3. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

        Post-war Egyptian army?

      4. Anomalous   8 years ago

        The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem?

      5. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

        Steven Spielberg?

      6. Chipwooder   8 years ago

        The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem?

      7. straffinrun   8 years ago

        Al Alameinkampf?

      8. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        Rush Limbaugh?

      9. Libertarian   8 years ago

        The jews?

      10. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

        The Stranger?

    4. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

      Maybe he thought he was from Hand?ar SS Division? Was he wearing a red fez?

      Mr. Yiannopoulos has been giving inflammatory speeches on a college tour meant to push back against what he sees as the stifling politically correct left. But his language has veered decidedly toward hate speech. At the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, for example, he singled out a transgender student for ridicule by name.

      Because of actions like that, many Berkeley students and more than 100 faculty members petitioned the university to block the event, but the chancellor, Nicholas Dirks, declined to do so, citing free speech.

      This, of course, raises questions about free speech: Is it free speech if it makes us feel unsafe in our own skin?

      To be sure, it does.

      1. Ted S.   8 years ago

        The student probably earned the ridicule.

        1. Anomalous   8 years ago

          Hey, he/she/it is probably owed unpaid ridicule.

        2. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

          Got kicked out of a female locker room for not covering her penis in January, got picture, name and story published in school paper before Milo gave his speech.

          1. straffinrun   8 years ago

            "non-conforming genitalia."

            English is becoming unintelligible.

            1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

              To be sure, non-conforming genitalia is a curse.

              1. Libertarian   8 years ago

                That may be, but they're still one hell of a band.

        3. PapayaSF   8 years ago

          The story. Guy uses Title IX to force access to the women's locker room, a rather public action it seems to me, and then Milo mocks him for it. Student rage-quits university with a long, melodramatic letter that will not undo stereotypes about men who want to be women....

          1. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

            If you look at the article I linked, she decided to quit long before Milo decided to be an ass.

            In October, after nearly 10 months fighting for her right to use the Klotsche Center locker room without special restrictions, Adelaide decided that fall semester would be her last at UW-Milwaukee. She is moving to St. Cloud, Minnesota, and hopes to one day finish her engineering degree.

      2. Chipwooder   8 years ago

        The Handschar Division was Bosniak, though, not Arab.

        1. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

          That's too complex for idiots on alt-right and ctrl-left.

          1. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

            ctrl-left

            Nice.

            1. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

              Can't claim credit, saw it on the Internet, found it very appropriate.

    5. Illocust   8 years ago

      The obvious bias towards the protesters has me more likely to believe this really happened, but I still don't like the only facts in this story being a reporter's word.

    6. Get To Da Chippah   8 years ago

      FTA:

      Mr. Yiannopoulos has been giving inflammatory speeches on a college tour meant to push back against what he sees as the stifling politically correct left. But his language has veered decidedly toward hate speech. At the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, for example, he singled out a transgender student for ridicule by name.

      Because of actions like that, many Berkeley students and more than 100 faculty members petitioned the university to block the event, but the chancellor, Nicholas Dirks, declined to do so, citing free speech.

      This, of course, raises questions about free speech: Is it free speech if it makes us feel unsafe in our own skin?

      The answer to your question is "Yes!"

    7. Episteme   8 years ago

      Here we see the result of cutting back on history education...

    8. Episteme   8 years ago

      This we see the result of cutting back on istory education...

  25. Fire Shikha   8 years ago

    "Because, you know, the media is famous for its tendency to downplay violence."

    Ummm...wasn't this the same media that made the shooting at Fort Hood about 'work place violence'; Orlando shooting about 'guns'; and the San Bernadino shooting about 'Islamaphobia'? I'm going to have to go and say that Trump is right on this one. The media under reports terrorist attacks if it does not fit their narrative. In the cases I referred to, it undercut their narrative that President Obama was 'super awesome' and everything was fine, there was nothing to see.

    1. The Hyperbole   8 years ago

      The Media is not monolithic, seems you had no problem finding out that Fort Hood wasn't 'work place violence' and the real reason for the Orlando and San Bernadino shootings. Some outlets fudging facts doesn't equal no media coverage at all.

      1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

        Some = most

        1. The Hyperbole   8 years ago

          Sure, if you define media as TV and major newspapers. Add in radio and smaller newsletter type things and the needle swings right. Add in the intertubes and I'm not certain that you could determine where most 'news sites' sit, hell you'd have a hard enough time simply trying to list all of 'em.

          1. GILMORE?   8 years ago

            Sure, if you define media as TV and major newspapers

            When people say, "The Media", they mean NYT, WaPo, CNN, NBC/CBS/ABC, etc. as you say, "TV and major newspapers"

            we talked about it the other day and i do think there does need to be a new term for it (someone recommended "Prestige Media", but i don't know), because its far more specific in intent than your semantic-niggling seems to recognize.

            1. The Hyperbole   8 years ago

              That becomes rather circular, seem like you end up saying "these leftist news sources have a leftist bent", well no shit. If you use a general term for specific instances I can't be blamed if I fail to grok your meaning.

              1. GILMORE?   8 years ago

                bless you

  26. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   8 years ago

    Nearly 100 tech companies, including the likes of Apple, Google, Netflix, and Uber, have signed a friend of the court brief opposing President Donald Trump's immigration executive orders.

    That's because those Korporashuns want to keep the flow of orphans from Calcutta wide open.

    1. Rhywun   8 years ago

      I guess they didn't read the thing and see that India isn't on the list.

      1. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

        I hope someone is trolling them back, and saying,
        "Damn right! Without employees immigrating from those countries, how else will each of you be able to drive down salaries for the American workers! We support cheap tech labor!"

  27. DesigNate   8 years ago

    Democrats are engaged in a final 24-hour push to try to keep Betsy DeVos, school choice advocate, to be named head of the Department of Education.

    You could almost say they're going to War on (conservative) Women.

    1. The Last American Hero   8 years ago

      And they are anti-choice.

      1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

        They're very pro-money-and-power-for-themselves, and everything else is just a rationalization.

    2. Conchfritters   8 years ago

      They are literally using violence now if pushing is involved.

  28. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   8 years ago

    Why are all the red light camera companies out of Arizona?

  29. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   8 years ago

    The City of Chicago will not stand by while a company takes advantage of our taxpayers,

    The taxpayers of Chicago will not stand by while corrupt public officials hand out illegal contracts while lining their own pockets.

    1. Juice   8 years ago

      Yes they will.

  30. The Late P Brooks   8 years ago

    Apparently (not linking) Robt Reich now alleges the Berkeley Massacre to have been the work of none other than... Milo himself!!

    1. The Last American Hero   8 years ago

      Too bad Gorsuch hasn't been approved yet. Milo could challenge him to a duel.

    2. Volren   8 years ago

      Well, there was that time he protested himself while masked and hooded...

    3. GILMORE?   8 years ago

      Robt Reich

    4. John   8 years ago

      He has heard rumors that the rioters were a Britbart false flag operation. The man heard rumors Brooks. What more proof do you want?

    5. Fire Shikha   8 years ago

      What I don't get about this theory is that does that also mean that the attack on McInnes was also orchestrated by Breitbart? Were the riots during the inauguration also some right-wing false flag? Was the riot about Milo's visit at the University of Washington also more right-wing agitators?

      What a stupid man Robert Reich is

      1. John   8 years ago

        My liberal friends' response to this has all been some variation of "sure this is bad but what about all of the right wing violence". When asked to name such violence, they mostly have pointed to how someone took a sharpie and drew a swastika on several NYC subway cars.

        1. Zeb   8 years ago

          they mostly have pointed to how someone took a sharpie and drew a swastika on several NYC subway cars

          And wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a "false flag" sort of thing as well.

      2. Chipwooder   8 years ago

        He also pretends that there isn't a long track record of violence by leftist "protestors" going all the way back to the 1999 WTO riot in Seattle.

        1. Raven Nation   8 years ago

          Chicago '68

          1. Zeb   8 years ago

            I think that the police bear at least equal blame for that one.

    6. straffinrun   8 years ago

      "Why do you hold Berkeley to a higher standard than Texas or Alabama!"

      Actual response I got from a friend.

    7. PapayaSF   8 years ago

      Just look at the long history of left-wing violence in the US: it's always false-flag stuff from their opponents. Always. ALWAYS.

  31. GILMORE?   8 years ago

    Because, you know, the media is famous for its tendency to downplay violence.

    Uh, Scott....?

    1. lap83   8 years ago

      Terrorism...workplace violence...tomato...tomahto

  32. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

    Trump: 'Dishonest press' won't report terrorist attacks

    Speaking at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., Trump rattled off a series of strikes carried out by "radical Islamic terrorists," including Sept. 11 and the more recent violence in Orlando, Fla.; San Bernardino, Calif.; Paris; and Nice, France.

    "It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported," he told a group of senior commanders. "And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it."

    http://thehill.com/homenews/ad.....st-attacks

    What is this about terrorist attacks in San Bernidino and France? Does Reason know about them?

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   8 years ago

      Wait, were they terrorist attacks? I thought the police were still searching for a motive on those.

      1. John   8 years ago

        It is impossible to ever know the motive for these things. Unless it is a white male, then everyone knows it is because of Fox News, Confederate flags and of course Trump!

  33. John   8 years ago

    http://fox61.com/2017/02/06/hu.....-arrested/

    Protesters in New Haven stop an ambulance from getting through. It had a critically ill patient and teh EMT had to do an emergency medical procedure in the ambulance instead of at the hospital. Their defense is a bit comical.

    But an attorney representing the protesters said police are responsible for problems at the demonstration, including the delay of the ambulance stuck in traffic. Attorney Patricia Kane said protesters had asked police to inform them if emergency vehicles needed to get through ? and that officers didn't do so. Kane said she has been told the patient was a woman in labor.

    How were they do know an ambulance needed to get through? It is not like those things are marked or have sirens and lights or anything.

    1. Pan Zagloba   8 years ago

      It's the evil for-profit health care conglomerate trying to make them look bad. Single Payer NOW!

  34. John   8 years ago

    http://www.roadtovr.com/terrif.....-intimate/

    News you can use, The latest developments in VR porn

    1. Ted S.   8 years ago

      Do they have hot female conductors?

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        I couldn't finish.

    2. Rhywun   8 years ago

      I've seen this movie already. It doesn't end all that well for anybody.

      1. Juice   8 years ago

        I love that movie.

  35. PapayaSF   8 years ago

    Because, you know, the media is famous for its tendency to downplay violence.

    It certainly decides which violence to play up, and which to play down. Is that even arguable? White kills black = Big news. Black kills white = Better play this down, lest it reinforce stereotypes. Etc., etc.

  36. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

    Know what? I'd like to have a beer - or even share a joint - with Alex Jones.

    The guy is like just fucken like....

    1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      He needs to calm down.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

        That's what makes him fun.

        1. Chipwooder   8 years ago

          If you ever read the book Them!, which is a surprisingly good read about conspiracy theorists and profiled Jones before he became well-known, it's alternately amusing and disturbing how much of a true believer he really is. A cynical Michael Savage-style poseur, he's not.

          1. GILMORE?   8 years ago

            it's alternately amusing and disturbing how much of a true believer he really is

            I saw an interview with Mike Judge? and i vaguely recalling him mention that they were personal friends. He seemed to suggest that he *wasn't* actually as crazy as his persona is.

            1. TheZeitgeist   8 years ago

              Alex Jones keeps his money where the Illuminati does I'm sure by now.

  37. straffinrun   8 years ago

    Why All Protectionists Are Essentially Luddites

    A nice and simple article to share with your liberty challenged friends.

  38. GILMORE?   8 years ago

    Interesting.... if only to recall how the US Military was, by contrast, comparatively sensitive about adhering to Islamic standards of burial and treatment of bodies. Its just an illustration of what "anti-insurgent warfare" really looks like when the people doing it are defending their own country.

    1. John   8 years ago

      I saw that. The Iraqis don't seem to worried about the dreaded blowback do they? Apparently they don't read Reason or they would know doing that just creates more terrorists.

      1. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

        I really don't get that. We should publicly feed the corpses of (actual) terrorists to pigs. Become a terrorist, wind up as pigshit. As haram as haram ever gets. Don't pass Go, don't go to heaven, spend eternity as filth.

    2. John Titor   8 years ago

      "The message is clear to Iraqis, to keep them from joining or supporting Daesh (Islamic State). This will be your fate. The Iraqi army will finish you off,"

      *Saddam's ghost smiles in hell*

      1. C. Anacreon   8 years ago

        Saddam sews socks that smell.

  39. Kurmudgeonly Kristen   8 years ago

    Here I am in Colorado, rockin my 80s rainbow onesie, drinking heavily, skiing gently, and partaking of the local legal delights.

    Neener neener.

    1. Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?   8 years ago

      Pics or it isn't happening.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   8 years ago

      Is it 80s ski day? I'd prefer to wait for 70s ski day.

      Fun fact, I saw a guy in an emerald green onesie on the slopes, and to the best of my ability to assess, he wasn't wearing it ironically.

      I believe he went to the ski shop and thought-- this is sweet.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        Old fart. Gimmie 80s any day.

    3. DOOMco's Ref Chipper   8 years ago

      Very nice!

    4. AnonCowHerd   8 years ago

      Since I live here, your taunts are ineffectual. 🙂

    5. B.P.   8 years ago

      Supposed to dump in the mountains this week. Unfortunately I ruptured my acl on the slopes a couple of weeks ago.

      1. OneOut   8 years ago

        You should use indoor toilets until the knee heals up.

  40. TheDefendor   8 years ago

    Ot- can anyone point me to a decent article about dood-frank and its affects?

  41. Juice   8 years ago

    The company at the center of a bribery scandal over Chicago's red-light camera program will be paying the city back $20 million.

    FTA:

    The Arizona company at the center of a Chicago's scandal-scarred red-light camera program has agreed to pay Chicago taxpayers $20 million to resolve the city's claims, the Chicago Sun-Times is reporting.

    So which is it? The city or the taxpayers?

    1. Libertarian   8 years ago

      Ha. That reminds me of the great return we taxpayers earned on the GM bailout.

  42. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

    For no reason, here's some Orange Goblin.

    1. GILMORE?   8 years ago

      they're good too. was it you the other day who linked to some rock from... some TV show soundtrack? i was thinking of Orange Goblin when asking if they fit the "Stoner" label. I like that record.

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   8 years ago

        How about just plain ole Goblin? Awesome 70s prog rock. On mobile so hard to link to some of their music, but check them out.

        1. GILMORE?   8 years ago

          How about just plain ole Goblin? Awesome 70s prog rock

          I've sampled them before

      2. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

        Yeah Orange Goblin is - unequivocally - stoner rock. Like Kyuss, And yeah, it was Breaking Bad's soundtrack - Left Lane Cruiser.

        LLC is...kinda, sorta stoner rock. If they had more 'spacey' effects, longer guitar solos, I'd see them as a better fit.

        1. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

          Sorry, misread your original comment.

  43. jcw   8 years ago

    Did a bunch of people boycott reason's comments? Whatever happened there? Did they create some sub-reddit or something?

    1. BakedPenguin   8 years ago

      A lot of commenters have left, for a variety of reasons, mostly dealing with Shihka Dalmia's anti-1A tweets where she conflated Berkeley violence with Milo Y's speech.

    2. Hayeksplosives   8 years ago

      Just prior to WWII, German physicist Werner Heisenberg was urged by his American and British colleagues, as well as fellow Germans who had immigrated to America, that he should get out of Germany while the getting was good. Heisenberg said that he had to stay in Germany, the country he loved, so that he could be there to help rebuild after the inevitable loss. (BTW, there's pretty good evidence that he intentionally derailed the Nazi pursuit of a nuclear bomb so that they would never have it.)

      I feel a little the same about Reason. Do we leave it, or stay behind to rebuild?

    3. Hayeksplosives   8 years ago

      Just prior to WWII, German physicist Werner Heisenberg was urged by his American and British colleagues, as well as fellow Germans who had immigrated to America, that he should get out of Germany while the getting was good. Heisenberg said that he had to stay in Germany, the country he loved, so that he could be there to help rebuild after the inevitable loss. (BTW, there's pretty good evidence that he intentionally derailed the Nazi pursuit of a nuclear bomb so that they would never have it.)

      I feel a little the same about Reason. Do we leave it, or stay behind to rebuild?

      1. Hayeksplosives   8 years ago

        teh squirrelz uncertainty principle

      2. Hayeksplosives   8 years ago

        teh squirrelz uncertainty principle

  44. american socialist   8 years ago

    Do tech companies get a bunch of help from unstable countries like syria, libya, sudan, somalia, yemen, and i forget the other?

    Their grand standing really annoys me how they won't do business in places that promote bigotry (like indiana and NC). ok fine...so why you doing business in saudia arabia which actually has real grievances against the gays?

    1. OldMexican Blankety Blank   8 years ago

      Re: American Socialist,

      Do tech companies get a bunch of help from unstable countries like syria, libya, sudan, somalia, yemen, and i forget the other?

      Countries don't 'help'. Only human individuals of will can work for a company and thus help.

      You know, Trumpistas have this penchant for collectivist arguments as well. They think that keeping make-believe Buggy Whip jobs will help the (mythical) "American Worker(TM)" and thus help Make America Great Again.

      1. american socialist   8 years ago

        I am talking about the people there as the argument has been the ban is hurting the economy. Id like to know how that is exactly

      2. american socialist   8 years ago

        Your post doesnt make any sense. If they are make believe in first place then what is the concern from you?

        Also wouldn't ya be collectivising trumpistas here or does it not count when you do it?

  45. american socialist   8 years ago

    When will the progs start eating the tech companies after they learn of their massive profits

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