Title IX

College Students Meet to Have Sex, But a Poorly-Timed Touch Gets the Male in Trouble with Title IX

Michigan State University accused Nathan of pushing Melanie, something even Melanie says he didn't do.

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It was the summer of 2014 when two Michigan State University students, "Nathan" and "Melanie," agreed to meet up and have sex.

More than two years later, MSU found Nathan responsible for sexual misconduct—in accordance with Title IX, the federal statute interpreted to prohibit sexual harassment on college campuses—because he had waited for the wrong moment to initiate the encounter.

Melanie filed the complaint.

What exactly happened between the two students? Bridge's Laura Berman has a terrific write up of the case here, based on transcripts of interviews and MSU's case files. According to Berman, Nathan and Melanie began casually dating in October 2013. She was a freshman, and he was a sophomore—and a virgin, until they started having sex (initiated by Melanie). Their relationship wasn't perfect: Melanie wanted to feel closer to him emotionally, he wanted something more casual and also told his friends that she "bullied" him, according to Bridge.

In May of 2014, during summer vacation, they decided to meet up and hook up somewhere off campus. When they reached the rendezvous point, they started having sex in Nathan's car. They were soon noticed by a bystander and had to stop.

Melanie was triggered by the event:

She cried, and said she had a flashback to an earlier, abusive relationship in high school. Nathan tried to comfort her, but she described her tearful reaction as distressed, "extremely upset." Later, they met a few of her friends for dinner in Plymouth and, after that, walked along the train tracks for an hour or longer, as he listened, while she talked. He recalls listening sympathetically. She remembers him dismissing how upset she was, and called his reaction "invalidating."

Eventually, they sat down, his arm around her. A few hours earlier, they had been interrupted trying to have sex in a car. She says she told him she didn't want to have sex again that night. This time, he reached beneath her shirt and bra, in what he later described as "a momentary touching of the breast," and she characterized in a text the next day as "a groping."

"I told you I don't want to do this anymore," she recalled saying to him. "And he did immediately stop."

That was it.

Nathan was never violent with Melanie, she admitted in interviews. And though MSU officials later claimed that Nathan pushed her down and pulled up her shirt—based on what is anyone's guess—Melanie flatly rejected that assertion. He had tried to resume sexual contact by touching her breast, which was something she hadn't given explicit permission for him to do at that exact moment.

They stopped seeing each other after that. Melanie felt betrayed because Nathan had tried to have sex with her at a time when she was talking about feeling abused.

About a year later, Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man. She changed her name and started identifying as a man. She plans to eventually undergo gender reassignment surgery.

Her transition was one of the reasons she decided to file a Title IX complaint against Nathan, 16 months after the incident.

"I suppose transitioning was one of the driving elements for why I reported, because I felt uncomfortable using the men's restrooms in my residential college, for fear that I would encounter him," she said, according to Bridge.

MSU subjected Nathan to two different Title IX procedures. Because of an internal error, Nathan was initially judged in accordance with MSU's updated Title IX policy, adopted after the incident, which was more explicit about the need for affirmative consent. When the mistake was realized—the university can't hold Nathan to a standard that wasn't in place at the time of the incident—his case was re-heard.

The result was the same: Nathan was found to have violated MSU's sexual misconduct policy. The university put him on probation and prohibited him from having contact with Melanie, but did not remove him from campus. He was eventually able to graduate.

Still, his transcript notes that he was guilty of an unspecified sexual offense.

That's the short version; read Bridge for more details.

Nathan maintains his innocence: He says Melanie never specified that sex was off the table after they were interrupted in the car. He thought, based on the cues he was receiving, that Melanie was still interested in having sex.

Evidently he was mistaken in this belief. But that's the whole problem with asking university bureaucrats to play relationship police in complicated and ambiguous scenarios. To avoid a finding of responsibility, Nathan essentially would have had to convince them that Melanie's complaint was completely unreasonable and his actions were perfectly fitted to the situation. In cases like this, it's difficult, if not impossible, for the accused to prove his innocence.

We can be sorry about Melanie's pain, and advocate for the university to provide her whatever help she needs, without making Nathan's life miserable because of a missed cue that led to fleeting contact.

This case is a perfect example of why the Trump administration should rein in the Education Department's Office for Civil Rights, the agency that advises universities on Title IX compliance. Restoring due process and the presumption of innocence to college campuses should be a paramount goal of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, assuming that she is eventually confirmed.

For more on this subject, check out The Campus Rape Frenzy, a new book by KC Johnson and Stuart Taylor, Jr.

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  1. “Nathan” and “Melanie”

    Even Millenial ‘anonymous names’ are pretentious.

    1. Hey, Nathan and Melanie was my father’s name and he was as simple and decent a man as any one could know.

    2. This is why millions of womyn needed to march for their rights!

    3. I have very little doubt that their names aren’t something like “Keegan” and “McKenna”.

      1. good point. maybe they had to upgrade the anonynames in order that the identity-downgrade experience not be so traumatizing.

        1. All we need to do know is search for freshmen virgin females at Michigan State in the fall of 2013 who now identify as men. Shouldn’t be that many.

          1. I think you strongly underestimate millenials.

    4. Fuck you Gilmore! We draw swords at high noon.

  2. Poorly timed touch?

    Paging SugarFree so early are you?

    1. Everything happens for a reason at the exact correct moment in SugarFree’s stories.

      1. BestUsedCarSales,

        I have never suggested this to any sentient being, be they human or otherwise, yet here I am suggesting this to you (and you alone) with specific regards to your comment Everything happens for a reason at the exact correct moment in SugarFree’s stories. which you made in response to my earlier comment.

        Here is the suggestion: Read more stories by SugarFree.

          1. I know, Switzy, I know.

            I typed it. I own it.

            Regardless of my desire for “BestUsedCarSales” to personally find proof that the assertions he or she made were clearly incorrect, I behaved like a lusus naturae.

        1. SugarFree has mastered John Truby’s The Anatomy of Story: 22 Steps to Becoming a Master Storyteller.

          1. I lean on in media res a little too hard.

            1. And the Necronomicon.

              1. It’s the Prankster’s Bible.

    2. Poorly Timed Touch peaked with their debut album.

  3. It buggers the imagination why anyone is paying five-digit sums every semester for universities to make their children insane and label them rapists.

    Won’t do it. Can’t make me. I like my kids.

    1. Your use of the word ‘insane’ is perfectly appropriate. This whole sordid affair sounds like something that happened in an asylum. ‘Melanie’ is clearly insane.

      Also: “We can be sorry about Melanie’s pain, and advocate for the university to provide her whatever help she needs, without making Nathan’s life miserable because of a missed cue that led to fleeting contact.”

      No Robbie. Just no. None of that is the business of a university. Their job is to teach classes. Period. All of the rest of that is the job of cops, hospitals, courts and counselors.

      1. Are you totally against universities offering extra services to those willing to pay for it?

        1. “offering extra services to those willing to pay for it”

          That’s a novel way to describe the creeping nanny-statism and kangaroo courts. Paul Nungesser probably didn’t know what he was “willingly” paying for until it was too late.

          1. It’s a response to:

            Their job is to teach classes. Period. All of the rest of that is the job of cops, hospitals, courts and counselors.

            1. I realize that. But Suthenboy was responding to Robby’s assertion that Universities ought to provide Melanie with “whatever help she needs”. And responding to you, I’m saying that in the category of “extra services to those willing to pay for it”, there’s all sorts of services that get crammed down people’s throats without their say-so. As a customer of a university, I decide where to go to school or where to send my kid to school based on things like “quality of department X, Y or Z” or maybe for the prestige of the degree, or maybe for the affordability or whatever else.

              What does not necessarily factor into one’s calculus is the existence of a tyrannical Gender Studies Department or how that school typically handles sexual assault (or whether they do at all) and the standards of proof that would be used when my son is accused of sexual assault. I grant that such factors ought to be considered by parents and students before selecting a school, but it’s perfectly reasonable for a person not to have considered every little ancillary “service” that might in some circumstance stand athwart of my kid getting a college education.

              Universities should be selling education, not social justice and that is Suthen’s point.

              1. But Suthenboy was responding to Robby’s assertion that Universities ought to provide Melanie with Blah blah blah etc

                Yippee. I asked a rather simple question.

                1. Simpleminded question.

          2. I don’t mind if the school has counselors available (as long as said counselor didn’t march in DC last Saturday)

        2. Euphemism?

          Or you really want to pay extra for the Nathan Treatment?

        3. If they’re willing to itemize “Extra fee for women who cry themselves to sleep when the guy doesn’t respond to the 200 texts the day after they have sex,” then sure. Let people know where their money is going. I kind of doubt that is going to drive up enrollment numbers though.

          1. I guess I ought to realize by now that Robby stories make commentators dumb.

            1. Why is it dumb to think that universities don’t really need to have all of that ancillary crap? It’s not like they’re itemized on your tuition bill with an opt out option.

        4. Not if the service entails legitimizing Melanie’s insanity. Sometimes the truly kindest thing you can do is to tell somebody they’re wrong. Melanie fits that model.

        5. If “Melanie” is willing to pay to see a school therapist by all means that’s fine. God knows ‘she’ sounds like she needs one. But I suspect the therapist (knowing university therapists) would be liable to encourage her little complex where she imagines she was egregiously assaulted and Nathan is a monster.

      2. We can be sorry about Melanie’s pain, and advocate for the university to provide her whatever help she needs….

        The appropriate help is putting her on the locked psych ward where she is less likely to harm herself and others,

        1. Surrounding her with a few actual grownups who aren’t morons might work better. The article has ever so many people whose job it is to pathologize this young woman to conform with their confirmation bias. There doesn’t seem to be a single adult who understands healthy interactions and gives a damn about her, though.

        2. Or more simply telling her to grow the hell up.

        3. A Safe Space that keeps her away from other people.

    2. I’d encourage my son to pursue a career in cocaine trafficking before I’d encourage him to attend an American university.

  4. About a year later, Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man. She changed her name and started identifying as a man. She plans to eventually undergo gender reassignment surgery.

    Just being clear. ‘Melanie’ claims to have a history of being abused that has traumatized her to the point where pretty much any touch by any man compounds the trauma and the solution is to pump xit full of hormones and transition xit to a man?

    That sounds like the sort of evil Chris Kyle talks about fighting in Iraq.

    1. Not to mention that, you’re striving to generate the functional equivalent of a man with a questionable ability to distinguish having sex and inflicting trauma.

      1. I suspect we haven’t heard the last of ‘Melanie’.

        1. It’s Mel now.

          1. She transitioned from Wedgie to Melvin.

      2. mad.casual, could you please explain what you mean. I’m not trying be belligerent, but I don’t understand your point. Who is striving? What does “generate the functional equivalent of a man with a questionable ability to distinguish having sex and inflicting trauma.” even mean? I understand all of those words, but I can’t for the life of me understand what they mean when they are put together in that sentence.

    2. pretty much any touch by any man compounds the trauma

      Citation needed.

      1. Citation needed.

        Are you asserting that she filed a Title IX case against Nathan for the property damage she incurred? Fuck off.

        1. I’m asserting you’re full of shit.

          1. Citation needed.

            Oh I’m so clever!

      2. “Citation needed”

        https://reason.com/blog/2017/01…..-sex-but-a

  5. Melanie was triggered

    formerly known as “freaked the fuck out”, but now known to be entirely the fault of banal external stimuli

  6. She remembers him dismissing how upset she was, and called his reaction “invalidating.”

    in other words, “a guy”, something she was totally unfamiliar with.

    1. “I’ve always felt like something I completely refuse to understand or have empathy for.”

      1. STOP TRYING TO CALM ME DOWN

      2. true story = I once had an ex-girlfriend say, “Your breathing is very dismissive”

        1. at which point i made a mental note – “no sharp objects for you”

          1. Hope the sex was worth it….

            1. She said it during sex.

              1. ok. i lold

          2. Proper dismissive breathing is an art-form.

        2. That would have been an appropriate time to dismiss yourself.

        3. Uh… Wow.

          1. *she’d stopped taking her meds. it was a short romance.

            1. I had one give me her meds. Because “I seemed sad.”

              1. Oh right. tried slipping them in your drink?

                for the record, i didn’t know she was *on* meds. she only told me about them when her hair started to turn into snakes.

                1. when her hair started to turn into snakes.

                  Did that get you hard? Like, all over?

                  1. no, but it was nice to be the “much saner one” for a while.

            2. This is the conundrum men find themselves in because they want the pussy. Never stick it in crazy: if she takes meds (and you know it), that’s the giveaway she’s crazy.

              1. “if she takes meds ”

                I explained this to a friend once. If you take meds, it is because you convinced someone you had issues and needed them.

                Maybe you do, maybe you don’t, but sorting your stuff out while also dating isn’t easy for anyone involved.

                1. Maybe you do, maybe you don’t, but sorting your stuff out while also dating isn’t easy for anyone involved.

                  This. I tried telling my friend this after he got divorced, and he had none of it. 3 years later, and he’s only now approaching “normal” enough that the looneyest of looney girls will go for him.

              2. Never stick it in crazy:

                Objection!

                1. Proper response…

                  Always have a false identity, and an escape route.

            3. Wait, you mean you dated Ashley Judd?

              1. *golf clap*

    2. It’s obvious she’s been pickling in SJW propaganda – probably from the first day of classes. “Invalidating”? FFS.

    3. She remembers him dismissing how upset she was, and called his reaction “invalidating.”

      Perhaps because her reaction was, in fact, invalid.

  7. About a year later, Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man. She changed her name and started identifying as a man. She plans to eventually undergo gender reassignment surgery.

    Her transition was one of the reasons she decided to file a Title IX complaint against Nathan, 16 months after the incident.

    “I suppose transitioning was one of the driving elements for why I reported, because I felt uncomfortable using the men’s restrooms in my residential college, for fear that I would encounter him,” she said, according to Bridge.

    “I’m going to fuck up someone’s life because I’m emotionally retarded.”

    1. And how many counselors were involved in this decision?

    2. I’ve never had an awkward run in with an ex before. Clearly someone needs to preemptively punished to ensure that I never have to deal with this potential encounter.

      1. I’ve never had an awkward run in with an ex before.

        Jesus, are you serious? You’re one lucky, or one relatively celibate, man. I’ve had more than a few. And it’s always terrifying when they show up with a kid whose age you immediately start trying to calculate. It’s one of the downsides of having super-sperm.

        1. Or just regular old sperm and bad judgement/poor ability to follow directions.

          1. I think it’s been accepted here that my sperm is beyond the potency of a normal man. It’s my cross to bear.

            1. Sure bud, sure.

              **pats him on the head**

            2. Unless you have sired identical twins or more, then you are merely confusing, “how many over a period of time,” v. “how many in one instance”. And Imma proud daddy of identical twin girls, so yes, you may kneel before your superior.

              Also, is it “Not Okay” to have our girls tattooed with differing barcodes to discriminate b’twixt the two? They really are damn near impossible to tell apart. Even Ronal’d Bejlij’s friends at the NIH and NHS couldn’t make a better set of clones.

              1. I don’t want to live in a world where its not OK to barcode your kids regardless of similarity in appearance. I call that being responsible.

                1. Heh, when they were born, we had little plastic bracelets for them custom made so’s we can always tell the difference. They have separate cribs, too, and we bathe them either one at a time, or one of us will bathe one twin, and the other gets the second one, just to keep everything straight.

                  Some twins have minute differences to them them apart. Not my daughters; good thing we aren’t in Brazil.

            3. + a number of kids in quick succession

              1. Who is the newbie, Swissy?

            4. Unless you’ve blown a hole through a condominium that’s visible to the naked eye, don’t brag about supersperm.

              1. *condom

                1. I think once your on your third Irish twin you can brag about your fertility.

                  1. I meant You’re for the first your there. Stupid autocorrect and lack of edit functionality.

                  2. I think once your on your third Irish twin you can brag about your fertility.

                    Multipara births don’t run in either of our families. So *breathes on nails and shines* boast, I will.-) And once twinning happens, the odds of having a second set and subsequent multipara births goes up dramatically. I bet we could have borne a few more sets of clones from Dr. ZG’s Bene Gesserit axotl tank.

                2. A condominium would be much more impressive.

                3. Should have left it lol

                4. Condominium sounds better. I pictured a hole in the drywall.

            5. Hmm. How many of your children with your current partner are black or Asian?

        2. Sarcasm meter needs recalibratin’.

          1. Jesus, I guess it does. I forgot I was on a libertarian site for a while. Virtually every interaction all of us have had could be considered awkward.

            1. Start with the assumption that every comment is sarcasm.

    3. Her transition was one of the reasons

      yeah, i can’t quite imagine the alternate universe where that qualifies as ‘a reason’.

      1. My guess is someone in a transition support group encouraged her to file a report after she unloaded a sob story about how she was “abused”.

        1. My guess is an MSU staff psychiatrist encouraged her to file a report and to consider gender reassignment.

        2. Hey, like “you know, if anything odd ever happened to you, you can probably sue the shit out of the school and get them to pay for having a fake dong stitched onto you. Sure it’ll ruin somebody’s life in the process, but you’re still not part of the patriarchy he’s a part of yet so it’s all good.”

    4. Therapist: “Melanie, you seem angry at men. You have no idea what it’s like to be a man…so why don’t you try it on for a while?”

      1. I have this shed of hope that the hormones kick in and eventually there is an epiphany where Melanie finally understand why all of those guys became dismissive.

        Every conversation doesn’t need to be laborious. Women just seem to prefer it that way.

  8. Come on, Robby, you’re slipping.

    Shooter sent Facebook message to Breitbart’s Milo Yiannopoulos before gunfire at UW protest, police say

    The man who told police he shot and wounded another man during a violent demonstration over the appearance of Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of Washington sent a social-media message to the Breitbart News editor just an hour before the shooting.

    “Hey Milo,” the 29-year-old former UW student posted to Yiannopoulos’ Facebook page at 7:24 p.m. “im outside in line to your UW event.

    “I got sucker punched (he was a bit limp wristed) and someone jacked my #MAGA hat,” he said, referring to the ubiquitous red and white “Make America Great Again” caps worn by supporters of President Trump.

    Samie Frites, a nursing assistant who said he had gone to the protest “to make sure nobody got hurt,” said he saw a man pull “something out of his coat and started firing these little projectiles into the crowd.”

    The law-enforcement source said it was pepper spray.

    “I yelled at him to stop,” Frites said. “That’s when this other guy came out of the crowd and went after him.”

    1. Samie Frites, a nursing assistant who said he had gone to the protest “to make sure nobody got hurt

      “I yelled at him to stop,” Frites said.

      You did all you could, Samie.

      1. +1 Distinguished Service Cross

  9. About a year later, Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man.

    I admit, i didn’t see that coming at all, but in retrospect it seems to go with the territory. She was already wearing the pants.

  10. Don’t stick it in crazy, or graze crazy’s underboob.

    And there was a very easy way to avoid running into him in the bathroom…

      1. Desegregate all bathrooms, but convert them all to those one room self-contained bathrooms.

        We are the richest nation in the world, and yet I still have to piss standing next to a stranger? Everyone is so concerned about microaggressions that we are unable to see the macroaggressions right next to us, splashing urine on our shoes.

        1. I still have to piss standing next to a stranger?

          At least spend a few bucks on urinal dividers.

          1. Like your mom, they don’t go down enough.

            1. I’ve found that his mom goes down PLENTY!!!! Christ, she really never comes up….

              1. That’s what the mortician said as well.

                1. She has to go down, because the chinchilla cage at the back of the pet store, where Crusty lives, does not have room for anything else. She has to stay outside on stick hear head in.

                  1. *stick her head in

                    Goddamnit.

          2. At Heinz Field in Pittsburgh the men’s rooms have long metal troughs hung on the wall.

            1. Same at Wrigley

              1. But Heinz Field was constructed in this century.

        2. We are the richest nation in the world, and yet I still have to piss standing next to a stranger?

          Making the change to one-holers couldn’t come fast enough for me.

          I actually had the chatty dude problem in the restroom the other day. It was one of those restaurants that doesn’t have enough room in the bathroom so they put a bunch of urinals too close together on funky-angled walls. So he’s way too close with no divider and starts talking to me. And he’s talking about peeing, which is a double party-foul.

          It is pretty simple: Shut up at the urinal… And leave a gap if there is an opening available. These are kinda sacred man-rules.

        3. After witnessing what passes for a toilet in some foreign countries, not just poor countries, I’ll take my short urinal dividers for the win.

    1. There’s plain old crazy, and then there’s social justice crazy. One is like playing Russian Roulette, the other is like having 5 rounds in it.

      1. ne is like playing Russian Roulette, the other is like having 5 rounds in it.

        More like playing with a semi-automatic. Sure, the gun may misfire, but that’s not something to bet on.

        1. Or more like 5 rounds in a 5 round revolver. Not even a chance of a stove pipe, it goes bang for sure.

    2. Have a one-way mirror on the door of each bathroom so you can look in and see who’s in there first?

  11. We can be sorry about Melanie’s pain

    Let’s be honest, it takes a lot of effort to be sorry about it, though. She (well, now he) is complaining about a screamingly trivial touch because ultimately he can’t deal with the social embarrassment of pissing at the same trough as his ex. Or is he claiming he’s afraid Nathan will grope him in the men’s room? Hot tip: he won’t. No, really, he won’t.

    1. I would think Nathan would be more afraid of running into Mel(anie) in the men’s room.

      1. I would be, that that’s just me.

    2. No, she. She obviously has no idea what being a man actually feels like, or she wouldn’t have been complaining about being invalidated, or surprised he still thought sex was a possibility. She’s a fucked up girl with a fucked up mind due to trauma, and some people who are equal parts fucked up and greedy are going to make sure she has a permanently fucked up body to go along with it.

  12. We can be sorry about Melanie’s pain, and advocate for the university to provide her whatever help she needs…

    (sigh)

    “or, you know, not”

    1. Robby has to get his digs in at Sparty somehow, given that this last year was the first in a long time UM beat up on Sparty.

    2. Note that he did say can, not should. I can tear off my clothing and sprint around work buck nekkid, doesn’t mean I should.

      Or won’t.

  13. This is the worst porn I’ve ever read, and I’m in Sugarfree’s creative writing course.

    1. How is that? I was interested in auditing that class but then I found out that instead of using a word processor or even a pen, all manuscripts were supposed to be written in nothing but bodily fluids.

      1. Buy a pen, Sideshow Bob.

    2. SugarFree needs to write some affirmative consent sex.

      Jesus Christ, SugarFree is in my auto-correct dictionary.

      1. *port

        Man, I am not on the ball today.

        1. I give up.

          1. Did I have your consent to reply to you?

        2. Is the sex port where I go to find imported Thai sex slaves?

      2. Doesn’t brief eye contact count as consent?

        1. Do you have eyes in the back of your head?

  14. She’s just reciting lines from the alcohol awareness online videos they are forced to watch in order to matriculate. Almost every line she says come from them. E.g. “If you don’t give explicit permission then it’s rape, honey.”

  15. I can’t masturbate to this.

    1. Quitter.

    2. Some things are just unmasturbateable. Hard as it is to wrap your mouth around that concept, it’s true.

      1. Hard as it is to wrap your mouth around that concept

        This I can masturbate to. Thanks, Paul!

      2. No. That’s not true at all. The mere fact that there are things I can’t wrap my mouth around necessitates that I masturbate to it.

        1. Have you tried yoga? It takes a bit of stretching, but autofellatio is totally possible, just really uncomfortable.

          1. Until the payoff.

    3. Try the UW shooting-story

  16. And in important news from the land of grown ups:

    Among chronically ill patients ages 18 to 64, health coverage increased by nearly 5% in the first year that affordable insurance options were made available through Obamacare, according to a new study published Monday in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine.

    “We wanted to see how many people were uninsured and clearly needed health insurance,” said Dr. Hugo Torres, lead author of the study and a practicing internist with Cambridge Health Alliance in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

    See? See how much good Obamacare has done? How can you people be so heartless.

    After half an article laying out the rational case for Obamacare, we get this.

    Another hurdle chronically ill patients must overcome is the high cost of medical care, including copayments, deductibles and other out-of-pocket expenses. Generally, out-of-pocket costs were higher in the Obamacare-purchased plans compared with employer-sponsored plans, the researchers said.

    Gee. But at least those poor saps have insurance now. Let’s focus on what’s important here.

    1. Why is there such an insistence on facts by so many commentators here?
      I mean gee whiz, facts can’t compete with feelz.

      1. Hamster of Doom hates the children… all the children of the world.

        This is known.

    2. They keep using that word ‘affordable’.

      I am too lazy to link to The Princess Bride.

      1. I just watched that with my family (who hadn’t seen it) this weekend. I kept thinking how similar Inigo Montoya looks to Saul from Homeland. Turns out, same actor. 30 year old movie doesn’t look 30 years old.

        1. I’m binging Homeland on Hulu, started last week. First time I saw it. “Oh, that’s the guy from Princess Bride and Criminal Minds”

  17. What a vindictive sack of shit bitch, um dude, whatever.

    1. Melanie’s about to find out that changing to a guy doesn’t stop him from being a cunt-faced little bitch.

  18. How much time and money were wasted dealing with an emotionally disturbed person’s ridiculous drama?

    1. Look, i think its a little late to complain about hiring Robby.

      1. Oh no, you didn’t!

  19. We can be sorry about Melanie’s pain

    Seriously?

    Why should I give a fuck? We can stop worrying about global warming. The human race will die out long before the seas rise and the land is scorched.

    1. Well, Melanie obviously has a lot of issues. She claims she was sexually assaulted as a child, and she has some gender identity confusion. All of that is completely separate from her fake rape accusation. We can be compassionate towards her real problems without condoning her false accusations.

      1. Meh, I can feel sorry about a war veteran who watched his friends die in a pointless war and now can’t find a job. Once he starts he starts publishing screeds about killing all the Jews, my sympathy tells him to suck a dick, then self-defenestrates.

      2. We may also remain incredulous, as people who lie about being raped tend not to be credible sources about whether they have been raped in the past.

  20. “In cases like this, it’s difficult, if not impossible, for the accused to **prove his innocence**.” (emphasis added)

    There’s your problem… right there.

    1. yeah, somehow i missed that.

      classic soave.

      1. I consider myself a very forgiving and understanding person (*coughs* BULLSHIT! *coughs more*). Sadly, I’m not sure this is an issue of how he phrased it. I think the f’ed up reality is that the kangaroo courts, established by ridiculous interpretations of Title IX, simply don’t give a crap about quaint relics like presumption of innocence. Instead, they genuinely seem to be operating an extra-legal system where the general concepts of due process do not apply.

  21. I’m seriously having a problem understanding why college guys even bother to try to have sex with women anymore. It seems like an incredible minefield to walk nowadays.

      1. So ass-rape your male roommate. I bet there’s still enough of a stigma attached to that that it’ll be at least a decade before guys feel comfortable going public with that sort of complaint

        1. Um, ok. What are we supposed to do with this comment?

          1. Take it as legal advice?

          2. Pretty horrible, right?

          3. Don’t room with db?

      2. Exactly. I mean, what 18-22 guy doesn’t want to have sex? Add alcohol and she doesn’t even have to be remotely attractive (speaking for a friend).

        1. A friend that wants to have sex with you?

        2. I suspect that is how it worked with Melanie-Mel. Beer goggles as thick as….thieves, pea soup, hasty pudding?

      3. This is what hookers are for. Until they took ’em off backpage at least 🙁

    1. A lot of it is that we get bombarded by these stories and it seems insanely prevalent, but for every story we here like this, a 100,000 people fucked in the alley behind a dorm.

    2. my mom told me she fears for men in school. my younger brother graduated 2 years ago.

      1. I am sore afraid for my nephew who wants to go to MIT next year. And to top it off, his mom has slowly become an SJW who takes all this campus rape shit as rote fact.

    3. I think the real question you should be asking is why is approval for legalized prostitution rising steadily in men aged 20-30.

  22. About a year later, Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man. She changed her name and started identifying as a man. She plans to eventually undergo gender reassignment surgery.

    *outright, prolonged laughter*

    1. She’s a MAN, baby!

    2. She changed her name

      So why are we still calling her “Melanie”?
      So cis. Much hetero.

      1. It’s the only thing Robby Horses got right in this sad tale of convoluted delusions, outright psychopathy, and pathologically conspicuous Comedy of Woe. Stopped clock, sun’s gotta shine on even a dog’s arse…etc.

        Apparently, he picked up a biology textbook recently.

  23. I assume Melanie will change her name to Nathan and the circle will be complete.

    1. Only complete if Nathan transitions to a woman and becomes Scarlett

      1. No, “Melanie.” And then they get back together and he/she accuses she/he of molesting him/her.

        1. My Gone With The Wind scenario however would then allow them to fight over a genderfluid Ashley

          1. I assume Belle Watling is agender in your retelling?

            1. No, she’s a sex hologram (or whorogram) projected by the end of Rhett’s new, improved Fleshlight

              1. [frantically searches Amazon]

          2. You’re up late/early.

            1. Can’t sleep 🙁 I’ll stagger through work today and take a four day weekend to recover, courtesy of Australia Day.

              Hope all is well with you

              1. Ahh, long weekends.

                Things good here – for the most part. My dean’s is being an ass some of the time but ah well.

              2. This is the wattle, it’s the emblem of our land…
                You can stick it in a bottle, or you can hold it in your hand.
                Amen.

                Happy Australia Day!

        2. I hate that I was able to follow the he/she she/he. This world articles more every day.

    2. Call her “Mel.”

  24. Why didn’t you report the rape immediately?

    I learned a lot a couple of years ago when my best friend told me he was sexually abused as a kid. I freaked out.

  25. The Campus Rape Frenzy

    Worst date movie ever.

    1. I guess they were trying to ride on the coattails of the awesome movie, Lesbian Spank Inferno (Audio NSFW, Video very much SFW – use headphones)

      1. Not sure if that or Jeff volunteering to amputate his leg for sympathy sex is more appropriate.

  26. “Let’s agree that campus rape is a problem”
    No thanks.

    1. “Campus rape” implies some kind of systematic or widespread problem. Which isn’t the case, as far as I can tell, for non-insane values of “rape”.

    2. ‘Campus rape’ is a problem I guess in the sense that roller coaster rape, auto repair shop rape, and Denny’s bathroom rape, are also problems if and when they occur, but there is no reason to treat any one of those as a distinct phenomenon, as rape on campus is less common, not more common, than off campus. I assume the same goes for roller coasters, auto repair shops, and Denny’s restrooms.

      Maybe not Denny’s restrooms.

  27. Somebody need to take College Administrators and Federal Bureaucrats aside and explain to them that Title IX does not take the place of actual criminal law. Preferable, with a tire iron. The amount of broadly unconstitutional politically correct bullsh*t that goes on surrounding Title IX is absurd.

    1. Except the DOE is tying funding to that interpretation of Title IX and threatening federal intervention.

      1. The new boss can fix that

  28. In cases like this, it’s difficult, if not impossible, for the accused to prove his innocence.

    Earth to Robby…

  29. We can… advocate for the university to provide her whatever help she needs,

    Not if you’re a libertarian.

    1. Are you also saying that universities should not offer extra services to people willing to pay for them?

      1. Most universities offer some basic health services (including mental health services) as a part of tuition. There may be a nominal “health center fee” or something, but that’s it.

        1. Is that against libertarianism? If they don’t hide what the fees cover and people are willing to pay, what is the problem?

          1. It seems like those should be two separate services. Educuation and mental health services should be two different bills. If someone wants to see a shrink while going to college, then don’t make the otherwise well adjusted students pay for it.

            That doesn’t preclude some sort of campus therapist, but there should be something like a school nurse. If you have a headache, they give you an aspirin, if you start coughing up blood, or your neighbor’s dog is telling you to kill people, the they call 911.

            1. And since they aren’t separate, a prospective student/parent could look at the fees and decide against attending the school, right? And therefore nobody is being forced to pay for it, right? Because people aren’t being forced to go there, right?

      2. people willing to pay for them?

        note that this is a state-university

        1. So there’s no tuition?

          1. taxpayers aren’t on the hook for subsidizing their all-inclusive vacation from reality?

            i think the point here is that there is no logical reason to demand or expect universities be a soup-to-nuts provider of everything (or anything) other than actual “education”

            sure, people can pay more to get Club Med U. And i’m the first to celebrate a marketplace full of choices. but that’s not exactly the point robby was making with his call for ‘advocacy’.

      3. That’s not the same as “whatever help she needs”

  30. Repeal Title IX.

    That is all.

    1. No, enforce it as written. It was a pretty well-written law that helped ensure equal protection and equal access for all taxpayers, but has been perverted to mean whatever the fuck people want it to mean. In other words, it helped usher in a more severe era of the rule of man rather than the rule of law where plainly written laws were enforced as plainly written laws and not twisted into some decrepit corpse of what they were supposed to be.

      Title IX was very clear in scope and intent. The problem is not the law but the interpretation.

      1. like most aspects of government.

        1. Yep. Pretty sure this is covered in the commerce clause too. Everything else is. Except when it doesn’t fit the narrative (cough, health insurance across states, cough).

  31. Wait wait wait. This article didn’t completely freak out at “Nathan’s” obvious rapey intent? I thought this was just another cosmotarian SJW rag. C’mon Reason, if you’re going to get lumped in with the proggie left by Trumpalos who just want every blog to validate their every feeling and impulse towards Trump, you should at least act like it!

    1. Oh, do shut up, Portia.

  32. Nathan maintains his innocence: he says Melanie never specified that sex was off the table after they were interrupted in the car. He thought, based on the cues he was receiving, that Melanie was still interested in having sex.

    Oh Nathan, dear lad, you’ve got a LOT of learning to do.

  33. Meanwhile, there’s a long NYT tearjerker about how Kansas State is being sued because they harbored a notorious serial rapist or some such nonsense, today.

    Here’s a little advice: if a RAPE was committed, don’t go to your RA, go to the cops. And don’t wait nearly two fucking years to do it.

  34. Hopefully Nathan will get over this. No man should live with the stigma of being the reason someone decided to tranny out of reality and completely into a fantasy world where biology is irrelevant.

    1. Biology is like a totally a social construct, man.

  35. I remember my first encounter with this sort of nonsense 20 years ago. I was listening to a girl tell a sob story about this horrible guy she dated.

    Her: He asked me to go up to his dorm room to watch a movie. When we got up there, he didn’t even have a VCR (yeah, it was a while ago. No DVDs.) He just wanted to have sex! It was awful.

    Me: Did you have sex with him?

    Her: Yes.

    Me: WTF?

    If that had happened today, can you imagine what would happen to the poor guy?

    1. I hope you didn’t have sex with her. I hear they’re revisiting the statute of limitations and it sounds like if you did, then you raped that poor woman.

      -alumni liaison at your old school

      1. Why do you think I was listening to her boring story?!?!

        1. That’s a given, that listening is usually just necessary foreplay for someone at that age.

          Our progressive idiots will not be happy until most of us are consigned to a camp, for an indeterminate period of time, until “we adjust our thinking,”

          1. Our progressive idiots will not be happy until most of us are consigned to a camp, for an indeterminate period of time, until “we adjust our thinking,”

            Or until our life clocks blink and we’re renewed on Lastday.

    2. in her defense, i assume she really wanted to watch a movie after.

    3. Fun fact: go on amazon and look at the reviews for almost any book on sociopathy or psycopathy (I went through a phase where I was interested in criminal psychology). Half the reviews are just women rambling ‘OMG! I realized when I read this book that my ex (or all my exes) was a sociopath! I mean, he had this totally sociopathic look in his eyes and left the toilet seat up, demonstrating complete lack of empathy like described in the book. I don’t know how I survived.’

      Or listen to almost any pop song by a woman. It’s disturbing how many women have a hateful obsession with their exes and subscribe to bizarre conspiracy theories that their ex-boyfriends are sitting in their darkened bedrooms pleasuring themselves to the thought of having caused them emotional pain. It’s no wonder that this sort vindictiveness and persecution complex are so common these days.

  36. They stopped seeing each other after that. Melanie felt betrayed because Nathan had tried to have sex with her at a time when she was talking about feeling abused.

    About a year later, Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man. She changed her name and started identifying as a man. She plans to eventually undergo gender reassignment surgery.

    Let this be a lesson. Don’t even think about sticking it in crazy.

    1. Wait, are you calling someone that takes hormones in an attempt to disfigure/mutilate their physical makeup in an attempt to deny their biology “crazy”? You sound like a typical bigot!

    2. When a dude is the height of his hormonal frenzy, around age 19, sticking it in often takes way more precedent than how crazy stick-ee is, or may someday become. Who knows, maybe Melanie was more or less hot as a girl, even thought she has since elected for hormonal and surgical mutilation.

      No one ever said I was PC.

      1. i find most 19 year olds to be a little off.

      2. It’s certainly understandable for a 19 year old male to stick it in crazy. It’s just a bad decision. It’s almost as though the purpose of horny teens and twenty somethings is to teach all of us hard lessons about sticking it in the wrong person. Let those people stand as examples to everyone else.

  37. I once had an ex-girlfriend say, “Your breathing is very dismissive”

    “Keep it down, over there. I’m trying to sleep.”

  38. In cases like this, it’s difficult, if not impossible, for the accused to prove his innocence

    Have we decided to ditch presumption of innocence?

    1. How many of these stories do you need to read before you realize the answer is yes?

      1. I still expect a bit of veneer from time to time, damn it!!

    2. It’s a statement of fact, not advocacy.

      1. Um, it kind of reads as both.

        1. No, it really doesn’t.

    1. Stupid poors, if they just did this outside of town it’d be fine! but sure, lets make it worse for those who still have some shelter.

    2. The lawmakers of Los Angeles should have learned by now that criminalization of homelessness ? does nothing to solve the underlying problem of homelessness.
      ? Eric Tars, senior attorney at the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty

      Fun fact: neither does just sitting there and letting it flourish.

  39. Since we have inaugurated a Republican president, the media now have permission to catch up on 8 years of non-reports about The Homeless.

    An tsunami of sad stories about homeless people is about to inundate us,

    1. …meant as a response to Hamster of Doom.

      1. No worries, I picked up what you’re putting down. I agree. The rise in the homeless population has been an ignored issue for too damned long. Now, instead of asking good questions about how all these wonderful progressive policies seem to fuck up the lives of an increasing number of poor people, we’ll have to listen to wankers fuss about mean conservatives and demand more free monies for their good works.

        1. Progressive policies also attract more homeless to your city. Who knows if there are actually more of them overall?

    2. Don’t forget war! and more on infrastructure probably.

      1. The progressives announced their plan to only spend one trillion on infrastructure. With “nontraditional” projects to spend it on. I read that as roads paved by the homeless. I’m being if we slice the homeless thin enough we can pull in the spending for half a trillion.

        1. I hate swipe on my phone. Being equals betting.

  40. I could only get about 1/2 way through before my eyes rolled so far back in my head I was momentarily blind.

    I’m gonna start a scholarship program for people to pay for sex workers while they’re in college. It’s not worth it to try to fuck your fellow classmates.

    1. the movie ‘head of state’ showed us the way. we must commission a team of super whores asap! you know….for the children.

  41. Don’t send a son to a college in a blue-city/state.

    Texas and Georgia have good schools and the risk of this life-ruining nonsense is far less.

    1. Michigan went for Trump.

      1. That was a new thing.

      2. MSU is in East Lansing, which went 60:32 for Clinton.

        Higher Education is dominated by hyper-leftists. This is buffered in red/purple regions because they need to socialize within the larger community and the extremism becomes tempered.
        Put a college/university in a blue town/state and you create a leftist singularity, resulting in all the craziness that we see in stories like this.

  42. If I was 17, I would think of every option that didn’t include the university.

    1. My son is a straight-A student that will probably get into any school he wants to. He’s seriously considering becoming a deep-sea welder rather than an engineer. I won’t try to convince him one way or the other.

      1. a small tech school wouldn’t be a bad choice. I just see far too much risk in any big school. I hope he goes into something he enjoys!

      2. Go be a welder for 10 years while its fun and then go be an engineer. If he’s flying into and out of Lousiana to weld on oil platforms, strippers and bar-girls will teach him everything he needs to know about crazy, and how to avoid it, without involving the cops.

        1. We have cousins that inter-bred with coonasses after my uncle got sent to work in Metairie. I’m sorry, but I don’t want my side of the family tree polluted like that.

  43. Reading this story, I realize my terrible guilt and complicitness in rape culture. Everyone on this thread
    ia obviously a sexual offender. I, for one, welcome my new Title IX Overlords. I am willing to be honest and admit that I stared at a women’s breasts in Arizona in 1992. She was wearing a low-cut dress, but I realize now that there was simply no excuse for my transgression. I will submit myself to the jurisdiction of Michigan State University. I have cleared my conscience. I suggest you do the same.

    1. Everyone on this thread is obviously a sexual offender.

      Not even going to defend myself. Guilty.

    2. I’m writing a coming-of-age/romance novel that features a high school girl who eventually does it with a college guy. There were mothers on message boards (also amateur authors) who thought I was the worst guy in the world, despite my claims that I was going to eventually highlight the downsides of such activity as well as the fun of intercourse.

      1. Sex is evil! Punish thyself now and place your testicles in a vice.

  44. Shorter article: Melanie is a stupid bitch

    1. Formerly a bitch. Now she’s a dick.

  45. “Restoring due process and the presumption of innocence to college campuses should be a paramount goal.”

    No, eliminating the entire Department of Education should be a paramount goal.

  46. “I suppose transitioning [to being a “man”] was one of the driving elements for why I reported, because I felt uncomfortable using the men’s restrooms in my residential college, for fear that I would encounter him”

    OK, then.

    Perhaps universities can “transition” away from the residential college model so that students can study online, perhaps while working real jobs, and their social life and, ah, eccentricities will be stuff they deal with on their own time.

    1. As for the residential life officers, diversity coordinators, Title IX officers, etc – maybe they can transition to being gainfully employed people.

      1. How diverse are diversity officers? They don’t seem to look like America.

    2. This kind of shit is commonplace. Ohio State had a football player get into a consensual relationship with his tutor even though it was against school policy. So when the relationship ended, the tutor said she didn’t feel comfortable around him in the athletic dorm and education annex where they both frequented. So the school suspended the football player for a semester and allowed the girl to continue being a tutor, consequence-free. Urban Meyer even complained publicly about it, which is rare for a coach to do when the university disciplines a student.

      That kid, Torrance Gibson, has since lost a year of college eligibility and has transferred to Cincinnati. For having a purely consensual relationship with a willing participant who later felt like ruining his football career for her consequence-free comfort.

  47. Her transition was one of the reasons she decided to file a Title IX complaint against Nathan, 16 months after the incident.

    Sorry, but if you wait more than, oh, 30 days at the outside to report, then your report obviously doesn’t have anything to do with what actually occurred, but on something that occurred subsequently.

    1. Do you even know triggering, bro? That shit can take weeks, months, even years to happen to someone…and it usually does right about the time they need to get their name in the public or they need to extort money out of someone.

      Reporting assault soon after the assault happened is so 20th century.

      1. Do you even know triggering, bro? That shit can take weeks, months, even years to happen

        I know triggering. And if my sear takes more than a nano-second to trip after I pull the trigger, something’s badly wrong. Weeks to years? No way.

    2. what happened on october 15th 2015, exactly?

      1. It’s even better than that. The accuser can have a faulty memory of the event because the trauma has clouded it…yet they’ll still be considered a credible witness.

        But if the accused says he was wearing a red shirt and later says it was maroon, he’s lost his credibility and his remaining testimony can be taken as unreliable.

        1. It’s pretty funny (and terrifying). The trauma renders the witness completely incredible (and therefore their testimony can’t be used to exonerate the accused) on every matter, every detail, *except* the fact that the crime supposedly causing the trauma was committed by the accused, on which her credibility remains impeccable.

          It’s every bit as preposterous as Catch 22.

      2. April 26 1992, there was a riot on the streets, tell me where were you…..

        1. I was sitting home watching my tv.

          1. “Standing on the corner, minding my own business . . . .”

        2. Participating in some anarchy.

  48. Sorry, but if you wait more than, oh, 30 days at the outside to report, then your report obviously doesn’t have anything to do with what actually occurred, but on something that occurred subsequently.

    Yeah, I’m thinking 48 hrs, at the outside.

  49. Even in the sixties we knew better than to sleep with someone crazier than yourself.
    I hope this kind of madness makes it to the top of Trump’s list of crazy federal regulations to get rid of by the middle of next week.
    The madness reveals itself. They say that “no means no”. But evidently stopping immediately at the first “no” is not enough.
    The biggest issue here is that real women cannot engage in a conventional relationship, because no male in his right mind is even going to say hello.

    1. They say that “no means no”.

      You’re 20 years out of date. The new one is “yes means yes.” They haven’t consented until you ask them whether you can do a certain thing and they verbally affirm.

      1. can i touch zone 435 on your body now? yeah? cool, now how about zone 438?

        SO HOT

      2. And even yes is no longer enough of course.

        Today rape is like a male-only version of original sin. We’re all necessarily guilty. Any suffering incurred, no matter how false the accusation, is justly deserved in some sense; the only injustice is that some men out there actually go their entire lives without ever being punished.

  50. it’s difficult, if not impossible, for the accused to prove his innocence.

    See that dead horse over there? Hold my beer:

    NO.MAN.IN.A.FREE.SOCIETY. SHOULD.HAVE.TO.”PROVE”.INNOCENCE.

    That was strangely unsatisfying.

    1. “we have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men” – George Orwell

  51. In May of 2014, during summer vacation, they decided to meet up and hook up somewhere off campus.

    IOW, it was none of the university’s business.

    1. But she might see him in the men’s room! How awkward!

  52. Remember the outrage about requiring corroborating evidence before a he said/she said rape case can be brought?

    Cases like this are why that proposal has been made.

  53. The worst part of this story is that Nathan walked along the train tracks listening to Melanie talk for an hour (or longer). That sounds absolutely horrible to me. He should receive sainthood, not censure.

  54. “Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man.”

    1. So is he now going to peg Nathan?

  55. I think the only solution to all of this “affirmative consent” BS is to go do away with coed campuses and only allow escorted guests of the opposite gender during daylight hours. They must also wear a burka anytime they leave the campus, so as not to draw unwanted attention of potential rapists.

  56. just wait til this happens at the high school level. These things would get tossed right out of criminal court, and that is where it should be tried. The school is far from impartial and seems to always label the man a sexual predator.

  57. Anyone having sex with anyone in a US university in the current lunatic environment is a fool. Indeed anyone going to a university in the USA is probably an fool given the carnival of absurdities that passes for ‘normal’ these days.

  58. maybe i need to read the long version, but if he put his hand up her shirt, that strikes me as not something you start with. it seems likely that they started making out again and he made a move, which would bolster his case that he misunderstood the situation. i just don’t see it as likely that they were sitting there talking and then his first move is to touch her breast in that way. of course, it’s been awhile, so maybe sex has changed.

    also, are we still calling her/him melanie, and if so, do you think the guy is more devastated by being labeled a deviant or that the woman he supposedly took advantage of was so distraught she became a man?

  59. All sorts of fucked up. People have lost their fucking minds. And no, I don’t feel sorry for Melanie’s “pain.” Fuck her. Filing a complaint in this type of case is fucking criminal. And punishing the accused is even more fucking criminal.

  60. According to a reTweet from a teary-eyed liberal today, the entire Office of Civil Rights at the DOE is on the chopping block, a list of 17 to be gone or defunded.

    1. Is that the Department of High Energy?

    2. About fucking time.

  61. Campus feminists are flat out insane. And this is just not a millenial thing. Campus feminists have been irrational for decades when it comes to issues of drinking, sex, emotional fragility. But I gotta say, some of these cases are getting to be absurd right now. I just dont understand how the college can be immune from regular laws. Doesn’t this guy have recourse in a court of law to what is happening to him?There has to be something unconstitutional about this.

    Remember the guy who was molested by a chick when he was passed out in some college and he was charged with rape by the college!!!!

  62. About a year later, Melanie began taking hormones in order to transition to a man

    Whoa… talk about an unexpected plot twist.

    because I felt uncomfortable using the men’s restrooms in my residential college, for fear that I would encounter him

    Nowhere near as uncomfortable as your former heterosexual boyfriend would feel, I guarantee you.

  63. when one considers this relationship in light of what is taught in schools from Kindergarten onward, this pair were only behaving as they;ve been taught since a young age.. that sex is separated from any moral standard, and with no standard what is acceptable one day (full sexual union) is a crime the next day, and always HIS fault.

    This whole Title IX nonsense must go… it is a fantasy, a corrupt means of destroying many lives for conduct that no one, at the time it occurred, was in the slightest but disturbing. Any female attempting to willingly engage in sexual intercourse, then being interrupted by some outside event, unless she gives CLEAR signals she is not interested in resuming some time later, is still “in the mood”, as he rationally assumed. When she finally DID make it clear she was no longer “receptive”, he quit…..

    WHY does not Title IX consider HER activities and behaviour, “inappropriate”? Have these prim and proper beasts never known a female to be the agressor, initiating or inviting such conduct?

    And WHY do uniertidy poohbahs have any authority to “judge” these things? Any crime, so defined, has clear requirements. Title Nine is about as clear as the mud creek after a gullywasher.

  64. Seems as though the goal of going to college has changed from education to trying not to get kicked out.

  65. *sigh* How did we get to this point as a society?

  66. I’m a day late to this party. This has to be the worst thing I have read all day.

  67. My son was falsely accused of a felony by the police at his university. He was wrongfully arrested, handcuffed, and shackled. Charges were eventually dropped, and his record was expunged, but a lot of damage was done in the meantime. Did you know that law schools and medical schools ask if you’ve ever been CHARGED (not convicted) of a felony? So much for that career path. Worse, his university discipline record still stands, and future employers and schools can gain access to that record.

    Universities don’t have to follow the same guild-lines as criminal courts. Large universities have their own police force and discipline departments, whose job is arrest children and prove they’ve committed a crime. You know that Ethics department? That’s a nice word for the Discipline Department, and to justify their existence they need to churn kids through their system.

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