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Treat Porn 'Epidemic' Like We Did Tobacco, Utah Republican Proposes

Bill would let people sue porn websites for damages if they think they're addicted

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Last April, Utah passed a resolution declaring pornography a "public health hazard." The bizarre antic offered no remedy for this imagined scourge, nor any binding legislative action, but simply an assertion that porn leads "to a broad spectrum of individual and public health impacts and societal harms."

Now the proverbial other shoe has dropped. Sen. Todd Weiler (R-Woods Cross), who sponsored last year's porn resolution, said he will soon introduce new legislation that would allow Utah residents who imagine themselves addicted to porn to sue the websites where they watch it.

"I'm trying to kind of track the same path that was taken against tobacco 70 years ago," Weiler told Utah's KSL.com. "I'm looking at where we can push the envelope as a state of Utah. To pretend that this is not having any impact on our youth, on children's' minds as they're developing, as their attitudes towards sex and the opposite sex are being formed, I think is foolish."

Weiler fancies his solution a libertarian one.

"It's not government coming in and saying what you can and can't watch," he said. "It's just basically a message to the pornography industry that if someone in Utah can prove damages from the product, that they may be held liable financially."

It's easy to laugh at melodramatic musings like Weiler's and at such tone-deaf dealings as the Utah porn resolution. But this silly "porn as public health crisis" meme seems to now be spreading to other states, egged on by folks at the group formerly known as Morality in Media.

Last week, Virginia State Delegate Bob Marshall (R-Prince William) proposed legislation declaring porn a "public health crisis" that has reached "epidemic" proportions, the evidence of which can be seen by the fact that teenagers are—gasp—texting each other sexy pictures. (Because everyone knows that before ubiquitous internet porn, puberty-racked adolescents walked uphill both ways to and from school and never saw themselves as sexual beings…)

Despite the feverish paranoia of conservative lawmakers like Weiler and Marshall, many in the Republican rank-and-file think their party's obsession with issues like pornography is out of touch and misguided. Check out what delegates at the 2016 Republican National Convention had to say about porn's alleged public-health-hazard status in the video below.

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82 responses to “Treat Porn 'Epidemic' Like We Did Tobacco, Utah Republican Proposes

  1. No. You are not addicted to anything. You are lazy and degenerate and using your love of porn as an excuse for that.

    1. Hey, I can’t be blamed for losing! Russians hacked my brain.

    2. I don’t know. I think that some people can become addicted to anything that brings momentary pleasure.

      Of course, that doesn’t make it somebody else’s problem.

      1. Yes, but the legal/addiction/treatment racket is quite lucrative, which does make it somebody else’s opportunity.

        1. Whenever I have ***ANY*** kind of problem, I immediately look to Government Almighty to fix it!

          Clearly, I am addicted to Government Almighty! Government Almighty, prepare for my lawsuit!

  2. I blame Jesse Jane and Dakoda Brookes for my horrifying addiction. In lieu of a lawsuit, I’ll take compensation in trade.

    1. Free access to four paid porn sites of your choice for life.

      1. See John, this is why people don’t like lawyers.

        1. Damn blasted kids and their uber cabs and quarter porn machines

        2. Paying *anything* for porn is like paying full price for videogames – just have a little patience and it’ll be ripped to the dozens of aggregators or the torrents.

          Its not like you *need* to see Assblasters 6 right when its released.

      2. If you’re paying that’s the sign you’re an addict.

    2. I’d blame Angela White, but there’s a problem.

      I’m not addicted, and even if I was, it was my choice to go down that road.

      1. I actually don’t watch much. Just thought it was a funny line.

        That said, I might dispense with my libertarian cred if it meant getting some one-on-one time with the women mentioned above.

  3. Crusty’s going to be RICH

    1. I don’t live in Utah.

      🙁

  4. … many in the Republican rank-and-file think their party’s obsession with issues like pornography is out of touch and misguided.

    Big government. Big, throbbing, turgid government inserting itself deep into your business, relentlessly, over and over again.

    1. Clean up on aisle “my stomach.”

      1. He reminded me of SF just then, is what he did.

        1. Yeah, maybe something SugarFree would say in polite company. At a job interview. With his grandmother in earshot.

          1. In this particular, Fist, I think you underestimate yourself while presenting a fair comparison of differences.

    2. Big Brother love you long time!

  5. Republicans gonna stupid.

    1. Wait! Government Goons with Guns… Why didn’t I think of that solution? It is neat, plausible, and… and… coercive!

  6. What happened to the South Carolina proposal that would extort $20 from people who wanted the mandatory porn filter taken off their computers?

    1. Wasn’t it proposed last minute, before adjourning for the year, awaiting further consideration once everyone gets back?

      I know others took it as a sign of the American right-wing Jihad but, to me, it reeked of having nothing that looks like something to do so that everybody can knock off early on a Friday.

  7. “See, Donald Trump, a notorious pussy-grabber who only very recently changed to the Republican party, just won the presidency. Clearly, this means that people want the Republican party to use the power of the government to clamp down on immoral behavior.”

    1. You may be on to something there. I confess the thought had escaped me completely.

    2. They have a mandate, dammit!

  8. RE: Treat Porn ‘Epidemic’ Like We Did Tobacco, Utah Republican Proposes
    Bill would let people sue porn websites for damages if they think they’re addicted

    Oh goody-goody.
    More frivolous lawsuits.
    More money for lawyers.
    More wasted tax dollars.
    More “addicts” to have the government look after.
    More “victims” to put on welfare.
    Nothing but good will come from this.
    Just wait and see.

    1. Don’t forget more rehab facilities collecting government dollars

      1. I think that was implied by “more ‘addicts'” and “more ‘victims.'”

      2. Where exactly does one go to apply for a job at one of these rehab clinics? And how attractive are these ‘addicts’?

        1. Dear Reason, I never thought this would happen to me…

      3. And more non-profits producing “public service announcements”.

  9. the tobacco settlement was reached b/c plaintiffs were likely to show Big Tobacco knew nicotine was addictive and inhaling a carcinogen is linked to cancer.

    Big Porn can just admit that their product is addictive and causes cancer. there. no excuse for people to watch porn. settlement parasites can now fuck right the hell off.

    1. anything that is pleasurable is addictive…

      1. That is basically what passes for a definition of “addictive” in “our” federal courts.

    2. If it weren’t for the addiction people have to putting dicks into pussies none of us would be here. I can’t exactly call that destructive.

      1. Have you met Crusty Juggler?

      2. Gaia and her disciples beg to differ.

        Now pay up.

        1. No payment until service is rendered.

    3. The tobacco settlement was reached because it entrenched an oligopoly of established players in the cigarette market.

      A novel application of crony capitalism, really.

  10. Paid porn sites:Internet porn::Pay-per-view:television

    1. Mebbe a return to the Communist Broadcasting Corporation, The Altruist Broadcasting Corporation and the Nationalsocialist Broadcasting Corporation, all regulated by Charlton Heston and Mary Tyler Moore?

  11. I’ll have you know I walked uphill to and from school IN THE SNOW!
    There was no energy for impure thoughts! Teenagers today are SCANDALOUS I say, just SCANDALOUS!

    1. My grandfather went to school with MC Escher.

      For Grandpa, the walk really was uphill both ways.

      1. Outstanding!

      2. My grandfather’s school was a tesseract.

  12. Porn addicts can already sue the sites where they watch porn. FFS, Now we have to drown in right wing virtue signaling?

  13. can anyone name the three in that picture? b/c i can’t and i’m kinda surprised by that.

    1. Nicole Aniston on the left? …That’s all I got.

      1. Don’t know the first one.

        The middle one’s name is Blahblahblah and the other one is Don’t Talk With Your Mouth Full.

    2. Porn stars have names? Go figure.

      1. I didn’t even know that had faces

    3. The caption says they’re ENB.

      1. That’s a hilarious catch!

        Men going to AVN and exploiting women by taking photos of them naked is one thing; but women exploiting other women by taking photos of their posters so their magazine doesn’t have to pay anyone royalties is just sick!

        1. Perhaps CJ meant that Elizabeth speaks and writes for many.
          Perhaps.

          Regardless, m.c, I think that you might agree that there are numerous regular commentators at H&R that would very much like to have Ms. Nolan-Brown show them pictures of herself in various stages of undress.

          1. Regardless, m.c, I think that you might agree that there are numerous regular commentators at H&R that would very much like to have Ms. Nolan-Brown show them pictures of herself in various stages of undress.

            I don’t disagree. She’s consistently a lock for the top 3 ‘Reason Contributors to see naked’. Moreover, part of my point was that ENB usually brings top-shelf partial nudity to the articles (even first-hand). Photos of posters from AVN 2016 seem below par for her.

            Either way, AVN 2017 is in just over 2 weeks. Finger’s crossed that Reason raised enough funds to send ENB back or is otherwise smart enough to have allotted the funds correctly.

  14. Have the third waver SJW feminist l00ns weighed in (not a fat joke I swear!!!) on this yet?

  15. Porn addicts can already sue the sites where they watch porn. FFS, Now we have to drown in right wing virtue signaling?

    1. 5 minutes. The squirrels are really trying to fuck with you now.

  16. Sex addicts? You mean like Tiger Woods?

  17. Utah… ooooooh! riiiight! The McMuffin State!

  18. Wait, where’s my check for being a tobacco addict?

    1. Well, you are an addict so obviously can’t be trusted. The government will hold that money for you and use it to fund programs to prevent others from becoming addicted.

  19. This is why I am ever wary of Socons as allies. Sure, I’ll work with them on narrowly-defined issues like 2A, but they are not to be trusted otherwise.

  20. he will soon introduce new legislation that would allow Utah residents who imagine themselves addicted to porn to sue the websites where they watch it.

  21. “It’s just basically a message to the pornography industry that if someone in Utah can prove damages from the product, that they may be held liable financially.”
    .
    As Ken White over at Popehat says, “The process is the punishment.”
    .
    Stated differently, what’s “foolish to pretend” (to use this Utah simpleton’s* wording) is that it’s no big deal for an innocent party to be sued. Because the innocent never lose judgments or get bankrupted or suffer any consequences from being sued, even if they ultimately win, right?
    .
    (*I realize “Utah simpleton” is redundant.)

    1. *** glances around for Swiss; decides not to say anything about Morons ***

    2. And a gazillion people can sue you and you have to defend against each one of them. That’s what Attorney General Ed Meese (Reagan) did – brought actions against porn purveyors in multiple jurisdictions effectively bankrupting them. Presumptive AG Sessions already has a boner at the thought of this; hell, he’s probably already asked if the modesty drape used to cover the naked breast on the USDOJ statue of Lady Justice during Meese’s tenure is still available.

  22. he will soon introduce new legislation that would allow Utah residents who imagine themselves addicted to porn to sue the websites where they watch it.

    As a, um, rider he should attach legislation that would allow Utah residents who imagine themselves damaged by his shenanigans to sue the websites where they watch them.

  23. “”tone-deaf””

    I keep hearing people use this expression lately, and it seems like 80% of the time its not even correctly applied.

    The way its used seems to suggest that what they means they’re “Out of touch” (another consistently misused expression) with the current times…

    ….rather than someone who is unable to perceive that their argument is likely to produce the opposite of the intended reaction.

    i don’t see what’s ‘tone deaf’ about the smoking analogy. its the same argument regularly made by dozens of politicians across the political spectrum = “if we can apply draconian controls to X, WHY NOT Y?”

    its actually quite a successful argument with the Nanny-State friendly general-public; which is exactly why they use it.

    sure, its wrong… but its definitely not ‘tone-deaf’. Pathologizing everything is tres chic

    I think the best recent example of ‘tone-deafness’?…. probably “Hillary Clinton trying to connect with voters by suggesting she had ‘money problems’ too”….

    ….or maybe the mass-media’s recent navel-gazing about “Why did we get the election so wildly wrong”? …which tended to err on the side of “probably because we underestimated how racist voters are”

    1. You could use some grammar nazi whippin yourself, boy.

    2. I think the best recent example of ‘tone-deafness’?…. probably “Hillary Clinton trying to connect with voters by suggesting she had ‘money problems’ too”….

      Lena Dunham rapping in order to get people to vote for Hillary. It’s like 6-dimensional tone-deafness.

  24. I do treat porn like I used to treat tobacco when I was a chain smoker.

    1. Gotta keep those hands busy somehow.

  25. I am willing to subjugate myself as be America’Porn Czar until we whip this problem. It needs to be chained up so its sweaty tenticles are no longer long and hard and grasping at mens souls. I will spank it into submission.

  26. Heavy Metal magazine is porn now?

    It’s a little sleazy maybe, but surprisingly PG-13

  27. Are Mormons that addicted?

  28. I blame concert pianist Khatia Bunitishvili and her Concerto In 34D Major for the fact she is not dressed in a duffel bag when she plays piano, and I got addicted to this!

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