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Cancer Kid Puts Ovary on Ice. 15 Years Later, She Becomes a Mom. Good Job Everyone.

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On Tuesday, a baby was born. NBD. Happens all the time.

This baby, though, is the first person ever made with an egg from an ovary that had been removed from the mother when she was pre-pubescent.

As a 9-year-old child, the BBC reports, Moaza Al Matrooshi had aggressive chemotherapy followed by a bone marrow transplant from her brother to treat a potentially fatal blood disorder, which did a number on her remaining ovary—so much so that as a young adult she had started to go into early menopause.

So doctors fetched her ovarysicle from cryopreservation, where it had been chillin' in some liquid nitrogen at minus 196C for 15 years. They sliced off four slivers of tissue and implanted them into the busted ovary, plus one more into the side of her uterus.

And darned if she didn't start ovulating. To maximize the odds of success, docs plucked those eggs out (they got eight) mixed them with her husband's sperm in a petri dish to produce embryos (they got three) and implanted two of those embryos via IVF. Thirty-eight weeks later, give or take, one baby was born.

Al Matrooshi hails from Dubai, her ovary was frozen in Leeds, her cancer was treated in London, and the thawed tissue was implanted in Denmark. Then back to London for the baby's birth at the American-operated Portland private hospital.*

The fertility math and medical geography sound almost unbelievable, and indeed when the ovary was initially frozen this scenario was pure science fiction; Al Matrooshi's own mother suggested saving the ovary as a crazy long shot.

But this baby's not a miracle. He's the product of a bunch of individuals' inspiration and hard work and risk-taking and study and travel and pain and a crapton of money. All the factors came together now the world gets a real live bonus human. Well done, everybody.

Al Matrooshi has another embryo on ice, technically the twin of her newborn son, and is already thinking about kid number two.

*Edited to clarify a confusing geographical reference to Portland.

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  1. So, the other embryos found other loving homes?

    1. Looks like there were three total embryos. One is frozen for future implantation and the other two went right into the hooha; one of those survived and is now a tiny person.

      1. And even if the last embryo gets discarded, so what? It’s just an embryo. Millions of those get discarded naturally every year in the US alone. Natural procreation necessarily involves discarding lots of embryos.

        1. “Those floaters you sometimes see in your vision are not imperfections in the vitreous fluid of your eyeball. Those are little ghosts of fertilized embryos that didn’t make it past implantation.” – Eddie

        2. I think it is also interesting that the Old Testament does not see the developing baby, and infant in the first year, in the same manner, as older children and adults.

  2. So she’s passing on this cancer gene to the next generation. The deadly disease she has is genetic. I think people have the right to IVF and fertility treatments, but I also think it is bad for humanity in the long run. Maybe I just watch too much sci-fi with aliens that mess with natural reproduction so much that they can’t reproduce naturally and eventually go extinct. Adopt and foster, people. It’s better for the the human race.

    1. The cancer gene would be there anyway, just maybe not expressed. It will almost certainly be fixed within a generation or two. Meanwhile, it’s her decision, not society’s or humanity’s, and good on her and her mom for taking the chance.

      I especially like the kick in the pants for Paul Erlich and other Malthusians. “Whu — science? Fuk me!” Ha ha

    2. I guess it’s a good thing that her life and the life of her kids belong only to them, not to humanity, whatever that is.

      1. +1 self-determination

    3. You must be new to this whole libertarian thing…

      1. I don’t see where he says anyone should be interfering with anyone choice to use IVF or freeze ovaries.

    4. Beta thalassaemia, not cancer, and it’s inherited in an autosomal recessive pattern. Meaning her kid can just end up a carrier and not actually have the disease.

      IVF and fertility treatments have next to nothing to do with whether ‘negative’ genes are passed on, all they would select out are individuals who were incapable of breeding naturally. That doesn’t stop ‘regular’ people from passing on ‘cancer genes’ and the like.

      (Why is it that every time I see a pro-eugenics position they know less about genetics than I do, am I’m pig-ignorant on the subject?)

      1. Why is it that every time I see a pro-eugenics position they know less about genetics than I do, am I’m pig-ignorant on the subject?

        No, but they sure as hell are.

    5. You know else didn’t want genetically inferior people to breed and pass along their defective genes?

      1. Margaret Sanger?

      2. Woodrow Wilson?

      3. Adolph Hitler?

    6. Maybe I just watch too much sci-fi with aliens that mess with natural reproduction so much that they can’t reproduce naturally and eventually go extinct.

      Like worrying about using your landscaping technology because you saw Maximum Overdrive. Nature voids species whether they like it or not, whether they tinker with their reproduction or not, all the time.

    7. You assume it is cancer when there are other medical illnesses that can cause similar problems. I think polycythemia vera could be one of them.

      1. This posted to the wrong comment????

    1. I prefer to go a little further south. But whatever floats your boat.

        1. It’s the shins that really do it for him.

  3. Muslims are mentally unhinged murderous psychopaths who adamantly refuse to join modern civilized humanity with the rest of us. They’re the architects of almost all of their misery, and I simply don’t feel sorry for them.

    1. And if you suggest otherwise, you’re a goddamn cocktail swilling faggot.

    2. Yeah, way to further the jihad, science!

    3. Thinking about this, the Pew charitable trusts did another illuminating study. They found American Muslims were on average, more educated that non-Muslim Americans.

      However, Muslims in the Muslim world are far, FAR less educated than pretty much anywhere else. In the world.

      So yes, the Muslim world is in fact sending us their best and brightest, leaving the unhinged murderous Wahhabis back home.

      1. Shut up, cuck.

        1. I was cuck before cuck was cuck.

      2. Hah!!

        On worldwide, a recent study found that Hindus are the statistically least educated (out of the religions they selected).

        Meanwhile that same study found that in just America they are the most educated religion.

        1. I strongly suspect that American members of every religion are more educated than their coreligionists in other parts of the world. Just a feeling I have.

      3. So yes, the Muslim world is in fact sending us their best and brightest, leaving the unhinged murderous Wahhabis back home.

        Generally, such people come through the normal channels of quality-controlled immigration, not as refugees. And while it is probably true in the past, it doesn’t mean that it will continue to be true. Aside from the question of low-hanging fruit, there’s a much greater danger in 1940 from a German who came over in 1938 than from a German who came over in 1902. Not that there hasn’t always been a certain amount of craziness over there, but it’s really gotten cranked up to 11 since the start of the century.

    4. Go work on your fiction porn some more, retard.

      1. Just fuck already.

        1. That’s your answer to everything.

          1. Fair cop.

            1. There are no fair cops.

              :^)

            2. There are no fair cops.

              :^)

              1. Accidentally double clicked submit. My first squirrel!

    5. I’m pretty sure Mike thinks Muslims are the Reavers from Firefly.

      1. For ISIS in Syria, that description doesn’t seem too far off.

        1. Goram right.

  4. But this baby’s not a miracle. He’s the product of a bunch of individuals’ inspiration and hard work and risk-taking and study and travel and pain and a crapton of money. All the factors came together now the world gets a real live bonus human. Well done, everybody.

    And that doesn’t qualify as a miracle? All those people having the ideas that needed to be had to develop the procedures needed to pull this off? The fact that the family had the money to afford it? The fact that she survived the cancer in the first place? The fact that it worked in the end against those odds?

    Every child is a miracle, and miracles take hard work. This one took more work than most against longer odds than most, which makes it even more of a miracle.

    1. That baby? You didn’t build that.

      1. definitely applause for that

    2. “Every child is a miracle, ”

      I’m not gonna go all Nikki, but nah.

    3. Every child is a miracle, and miracles take hard work.

      My child was the result of me dumping 3 loads in one day into a chick who came to visit. I’ve worked harder.

      But I agree, silly to say this one’s not.

    4. Every child is a miracle, and miracles take hard work.

      Ah, the Vrolik Museum. If you’re ever in Amsterdam I suggest it.

        1. Not enough mutated fetuses.

    5. No. Miracles are impossible pretty much by definition. Having children is the most common boring thing in the world and there is nothing remarkable, let alone miraculous about it (yes I realize that parents feel very differently about their own children).

      The birth of this child is somewhat remarkable. But I see no evidence of supernatural intervention, just good old hard work and ingenuity.

      1. But I see no evidence of supernatural intervention, just good old hard work and ingenuity.

        And while I wouldn’t denounce those that did work hard, there’s “OMG, can you believe UK to Denmark?” that makes even some of the hard work seem ‘hard’. If implanting an embryo in Denmark and conceiving a child in London is some sort of geographical hole-in-one, then the rest of Europe and most of America at pretty much any time since the rise of the British Empire is going to blow KM-W’s mind.

        I mean, in that Universe, a mixed-race Kenyan from Hawaii ascending from his IL Senate seat to become President must be literally metaphysical.

        1. Yeah, the hard work was done by the people developing the techniques to do this successfully, not so much the ability to move people and things from place to place rapidly. People have been good at that for a while.

  5. “To maximize the odds of success, docs plucked those eggs out (they got eight) mixed them with her husbands sperm in a petri dish to produce embryos (they got three) and implanted two of those embryos via IVF. Thirty-eight weeks later, give or take, one baby was born.”

    They created three embryos, of which one was born a baby, the other is “on ice,” and the third died in the womb.

    Were they *trying* for her to have twins, and that dead baby was not intended? Or were they *calculating* that one of the two babies would die?

    1. They specifically aborted that baby just to piss you off, Eddie.

    2. From what I’ve read about most IVF type processes, they oversupply because the odds really aren’t that good. Notice that it was eight eggs => three embryos (two implanted) => one baby. And if memory serves me, 8:1 is pretty good results for these processes.

      1. Yeah, they typically grow the embryos to about 5 days old to get them past some of the early roadblocks in development. The ones that don’t make it that far can be discarded so that resources aren’t wasted trying to implant something that isn’t going to develop anyway. But even embryos that look great at 5 days still have less than a 50% chance of developing to a live birth. And this is for perfectly healthy parents. If the parents have reproductive problems or if the mom is just getting old (35+) the percentage can be much less. So the doctors sometimes will implant multiple embryos to increase the chances of getting a success, while reducing the total number of cycles needed (and thus the cost). They obviously try to avoid multiple pregnancies, though, because that is hazardous. It’s a fine line they walk in deciding how many to put back.

    3. They were weighing the odds of success vs. the costs of multiple IVF cycles. Multiple pregnancies are considered high-risk so they try to avoid that. But each cycle costs thousands of dollars and the odds of a given embryo resulting in live birth are typically less than 50% (sometimes much less). So it’s a fine line they walk when making the decision.

  6. Great, another future suicide bomber.

  7. The baby was born in London, at a hospital named Portland.

  8. Al Matrooshi hails from Dubai, her ovary was frozen in Leeds, her cancer was treated in London, the thawed tissue was implanted in Denmark, and the baby was born in Portland

    So which national team will he be playing soccer for?

  9. A miracle baby is one that gets a job instead of being a burden to everyone.

  10. I’m guessing this costs way more than IVF.

    1. Since it seems to be IVF plus a bunch of other various procedures and treatments, yeah, it must.

  11. Al Matrooshi has another embryo on ice, technically the twin of her newborn son, and is already thinking about kid number two.

    Technically not a living entity at this point. Assuming successful attachment/gestation, technically the would-have-been twin aka “sibling”. They weren’t split from the same egg so they aren’t identical twins and they weren’t gestated together or born at the same time, so not fraternal twins.

  12. The fertility math and medical geography sound almost unbelievable,

    And what’s so unbelievable about the medical geography? UK, UK, Denmark, UK. If it weren’t for Denmark everything except the mother’s birth would’ve happened in the UK.

    I’m pretty sure Camden and Princeton from my 4th grader’s class represent more ‘amazing’ geographical conception stories. It wouldn’t surprise me if Guadalupe wasn’t exceedingly ‘miraculous’ in the same vein.

  13. Yay! The most important thing in this world is that all humans reproduce as much as possible.

  14. Science Rules!

  15. Science, fuck yeah! Allah akbar!

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