King County, Washington, Caught Digging Through Residents' Trash
Officials' goal is to encourage people to put their food waste in the compost bin.


A natural consequence of most Thanksgiving feasts is an incredible amount of leftover food, some of which—from congealed gravy to godawful ambrosia—is promptly tossed in the trash.
Usually, this throwing away of leftover holiday vittles warrants little attention from anyone. Not so in King County, Washington, however, where government officials have been found rummaging through residents' garbage in search of food waste.
On Monday, Q13—the local Fox affiliate—reported that a King County woman named Sandi England had come across men in an unmarked rental Penske truck digging through her garbage cans at 5:30 a.m. Suspecting identity thieves, she confronted the men only to be told they were working for the county on a study of residents' composting habits.
A local radio program called the Dori Monson Show reported that another woman had caught men with flashlights cataloging her household's refuse in the middle of the night as well.
This state-sanctioned dumpster diving is apparently all part of an 18-month-long Residential Cart Tagging Project. Started in November of last year, the study aims to get a more accurate picture of how much food waste is going into people's trash cans.
The idea is to encourage more of that waste to go into "yard waste" carts instead, says Jeff Gaisford, a recycling and environmental services manager with King County Solid Waste. According to Gaisford, his department has been leaving informational tags on the trash cans of its involuntary study participants reminding them of proper food waste disposal practices. The follow-up "surveys" are intended to measure whether these tags are working to encourage people to put said waste in the right bins.
People weren't informed about the unsolicited site visits, he added, because King County does not want them to change their behavior in response to being part of the study.
As weird, creepy, and likely pointless as all this is, it's actually not the first time the area has experienced curb-side privacy violations.
The city of Seattle—which sits in King County—was rebuked earlier this year when a judge found that a similar program to measure how much recyclable material was being thrown in the trash was unconstitutional. That ruling rested on the fact that Seattle was looking to level fines on those who failed to properly sort their recyclable high-density polyethylene from their non-recyclable polypropylene. As the county is not looking to hand out fines to callous food wasters, its program probably won't suffer a similar fate.
Fines or no, though, the Residential Cart Tagging Project has rankled more than a few people. Drew Barth of the Dori Monson Show voiced some rather libertarian sentiments, for example, when he called the whole thing "idiotic" and a waste of taxpayer money. "I should have the freedom to throw away whatever I want," he said.
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Polypropelyne is recyclable
So is your mom! (burn!)
False! She is all used up.
Just stick in a ham, and pull out the bone. There. All reconditioned, and ready for the next swingers party.
Sounds like you need a chemistry degree to segregate it.
"I'm terribly sorry, there was this giant racoon rummaging my trash, so I shot it."
But didn't they already say they were going to do this? Is it a surprise that there are now garbage police? The progtards are getting what they want, where's the problem?
The fucking "Garbage Police!" Brought to you by the left, of course.
Is this why Trump won? Signs point to yes.
If you're digging through trash, you've probably lost.
If the government's digging through your trash, yes, you've lost.
If any of the residents of Seattle think this is not a run up to fines from the garbage police, they are even more naive than what I thought.
^This. It's the whole point.
Get ticket from garbage police, toss ticket into garbage, claim check on the way to proper address.
Yet another reason I'm glad I don't live in King's County WA, and hope I never have to.
Fines or no, though, the Residential Cart Tagging Project has rankled more than a few people. Drew Barth of the Dori Monson Show voiced some rather libertarian sentiments, for example, when he called the whole thing "idiotic" and a waste of taxpayer money. "I should have the freedom to throw away whatever I want," he said.
Tsk tsk. He acts like freedom means just doing whatever you want and leaving other people alone! Has he even read the Declaration of Independence?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, subject to reasonable regulation
It started out with 'for the children' and then the words you just noted 'subject to reasonable regulation' finished off what was left of the Constitution.
This county is driving large trucks around, 24/7, burning tens of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel, all to make sure your cardboard coffee cup doesn't destroy the environment.
neither cardboard nor burnt diesel will destroy the environment.
nor burnt diesel will destroy the environment.
If you believe that CO2 in the atmosphere is killing 14 yr old kids, it does.
Hmmm. Let's try a thought experiment: Get rid of all atmospheric carbon dioxide and see what happens.
Screw that, let's get rid of nitrogen and quadruple everybody's horsepower.
Why not both?
Admit it, you just want to watch the world burn.
A man like me has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. I can never burn enough, or mis-recycle enough, or inflict enough damage to ever fill it.
Which is why we need to spend $40 billion so that two decades from now these studies can be conducted by light rail instead. Get with the program, Paul!
Wait, why not mandate that everyone use rail to dispose of waste in Mt. Rainier?
Their eco-friendly engines can't make it up the slope.
Why is reality so unmutual?
Mt. Rainier is sacred to the local Dirtworshipee tribe, and putting your garbage there is offensive!
What do I care about what is sacred to a bunch of casino owners?
Yeah...get with the pogrom, Paul!
It's for the kids, so shut up already.
What i find funny in these =compare-contrast analysis of the net-efficacy of Govt programs
....is that the superficial comparisons of "They're Wasting Energy To Try and Get People To Save Energy!" always misses the largest source of waste = the fact that they're *doing anything at all*.
What i mean is that the accounting never really even attempts to include "opportunity cost". Which is always the biggest source of "waste", and always the one most-overlooked.
Its not just that they're wasting fuel/energy/resources... its that they're spending money telling people to do these things, that they have administrators wasting time "planning" these sorts of behaviors, and there's legions withing departments within administrations who take x% time out of their day to deal with paperwork associated with said 'useless activity'.
All of these people, all of this money, all of that time, all otherwise could have been spent by people Pursuing THEIR OWN interests, rather than trying to "fix" other people's lives.
And all of those things produce garbage. and i bet you my left nut if you scraped through the waste-bins of the King County Solid Waste Department, that they themselves don't even meet the standards they're trying to enforce.
Besides the opportunity cost, it's a subversion of the government's purpose that has become utterly pervasive. "But we have to inform people!" I'm sorry, I thought we lived in a representative system. The government doesn't inform me. I inform the government.
This is why I burn all my trash and feed my leftovers to various animals. That and because I live in a regulation-free zone of my own creation.
"feed my leftovers to various animals."
Can I see your permit, citizen?
*blam*
Get the saw, the hogs got their next meal.
the hogs got their next meal.
Get in there, eat 'em up... God knows you earned it.
Or Mr. Wu's pigs.
Al Swearengen: WHO? WHO? Who stole the fuckin' dope?
Mr. Wu: COCKSUCKA!
I still haven't gotten past the burning trash. Whole host of permits required for that.
Stop using the permits as kindling. There's better starts out there.
I was honestly surprised when I found out my city-folk acquaintances had to permit any burning and that there were only a few set times of the year when burning was allowed. HOW DO PEOPLE EVEN LIVE LIKE THIS?
All you need is a 50 gallon barrel and a clear spot without overhanging tree limbs.
Uhh, you're not even allowed to start a fire in your fireplace before checking on the county air quality website.
Not joking.
I believe it.
The city code actually had to write an exception into the vaguely worded plumbing permit requirement to make it so that you didn't need to get a plumbing permit to use a plunger.
You need a fire permit for a backyard fire in a fire pit too, (not sure if it's municipal or King County regs).
I sincerely hope that more than a few of those surveys came back with "Fuck off, Slavers" and a middle finger drawn on them, but since this is a progtard utopia, I highly doubt it. Most of the resident probably accepted it because "...good intentions...the greater good...
They're testing the waters with this 'composting' crap in NYC, where most of us don't even have a year. Like I'm going to keep a tub of rotting food in my kitchen so I can contribute to the welfare of other people's yards.
"year"? yard
And smell it will. People more knowledgeable than I have indicated that meat can't be composted, yet the City of Seattle says that you're supposed to compost "all food scraps"-- they don't differentiate or demand you sort. So that means that steaks are going into composting bins.
I'm not sure how it all works, but I'm tired of the smell when the temperatures go up and there's a nice breeze coming from the south.
Huh. E. coli breeding ground?
I put my food scraps down the disposal, as God intended. Composing can kiss my ass.
Surprised it's not mandatory up there.
It is.
No. Meat scraps can be fed to a dog or a hog, but compost should be a mixture of green and brown vegetation. Eggshells and bonemeal would be the exception. If you don't have a grinder that will powder clean bone, just skip the meat scraps all together and rinse out your eggshells.
Right, so Seattle is doing it wrong. So is someone removing all the meat at the composting facility?
http://www.seattle.gov/util/My...../index.htm
All organic matter can be composted. Most home composters don't do meat because it attracts critters, and the anerobic bacteria that break down meat requires more heat than a home pile can generate.
+11,000 raccoons digging through the compost heap
I just had a horrible vision of some sort of raccoon holocaust.
Raccoon Holocaust would be an excellent name for a band, and also an accurate description of my yard before we got a dog.
I guess by 'attracting critters' you mean critters getting into the open composting... trough? I'm looking for the right word here.
yard waste/composting bin on the right. Look how big that is. Now imagine it full of rotting fish, meat, chicken and dairy products. Those bins smell and they attract critters. They occasionally get dumped over by raccoons. To throw out some hyperbole, everyone in Seattle is a "home composter". No, we don't have the actual plywood boxes out back where we're fermenting it into mulch, but it gets stored for a week at a time in your driveway or side yard.
You must have some powerful raccoons in Seattle. We have the same style toters in LA and I've never seen one opened by a trash panda, much less tipped over.
Trash Panda would also be an excellent name for a band.
When I lived in the midwest, I had a 40 gallon industrial steel barrel for a trash can and I would put a piece of 3/4 inch plywood and a rock weighing about 30 lbs on top of it. And the coons would knock that over and there would be garbage scattered for a quarter mile. Where I live now, you don't even dare leave garbage outside no matter what it's in, the coons will get into it and it will be everywhere.
Oops, it was a 100 gallon barrel, not 40.
The Raccoons here get pretty big. They also operate in groups. They tipped over my neighbors trash bin (slightly smaller than the composting bin) which actually clamps shut. His trash was all over his front yard, my front yard and my back yard as they dragged it all over the two properties.
In the parks, the city has to cable-tie all the public trash bin lids to the cans. In the park by my house, there are little 6" holes chewed through every single can. All of them. However, I suspect those were squirrels.
If the bin were actually full, no, I don't think raccoons could tip it because they couldn't get the leverage. But when it's less than half full, they're pretty tippy-- and the wheels on the back actually contribute to their instability when they don't contain enough weight.
Seeing groups this large isn't uncommon.
And attract vermin.
Fuck them and fuck composting. We have regular bear sightings in my neighborhood. I'm not leaving a bunch of meat out in a compost bin.
Just wait until the first funny guy puts a couple of pounds of thistle seeds into the compost bin. These people really do not think things through, do they?
Remember when Willamette Week went through the garbage cans of politicians who claimed that once you put your trash out it was public domain? That was awesome.
It should be SOP for news orgs all over the country.
After being exposed, I think the politicians made it illegal. Kind of like the way they want to drone Julian Assage to death.
I've reposted a link to it several times here on various appropriate stories.
RUBBISH!
Portland's top brass said it was OK to swipe your garbage--so we grabbed theirs.
Thank you. I was thinking of that when I started reading the article.
In Baltimore County, you must keep lids on your trash cans, but those lids may not be attached by a leash or a hinge.
Violations of this policy will result in fines, which are usually only enforced against apartment buildings where they can hit the owner of the building for hundreds if not thousands of dollars due to multiple violations.
I know property managers that check all the trash cans for every apartment (and take pictures) every week just before pickup.
To have the city pick up trash (for which they gave themselves a monopoly) where I live, you have to use the city provided trash bin, which has a hinged lid.
In the Libertopio known as Lachowsky's Farm, all trash disposal is regulation free. Food waste is fed to hogs. Flammable trash is burned in the outdoor wood burning furnace. All other waste is piled in a dumpster leased from a private contractor and removed once a month. I get rid of my trash government free, the way God intended.
Fuck trash cans. I throw my garbage in the hopper down the street. Which gets compacted. I hope a garbage inspector crawls in there right before the compactor comes on.
Sounds unsanitary - I decline.
You don't like dirty sex?
More trash fun.
In Norfolk Va, the city decided it would self-perform on trash pickup instead of contracting out (to save money of course, because they can obviously do it better).
So the city buys a bunch of used trash trucks and fails to maintain/inspect them properly, because that's hard and expensive. A driver notices that his truck is not compacting so he hits the lockout and climbs in. Turns out the lockout was non-functional and the compaction cycle starts. He gets fully compacted. Lawsuits filed.
Ah, keeping it "in house". The NYC MTA (the folks who run the subways) sometimes play that game too. Fortunately for them, the delays are so lengthy that by the time whatever they were working on gets completed everybody's forgotten those broken promises.
Eh, this whole city's sinking into the Chesapeake meteor crater anyway.
Stupid question... why??
Because we have to have rulez and regulatshunz, you bag rucking tea fucker!
Because if you make the regulation next to impossible to comply with, you collect more in fines.
Intense lobbying by Brotherhood of Raccoons and Squirrels Local 23 goons.
So you can lose the lid and have to buy more lids. That fact that some city councilman's nephew owns a company that makes garbage can lids (it's a niche market) is just a coincidence. /sarc
To make it easier and faster for the pickup. Which does make sense. If I were running a curb-side trash pickup company, I think I'd want the customers to use fairly uniform trash cans.
Of course I wouldn't be able to fine my customers for failing to comply.
Don't a lot of these companies lease or loan their customers their compatable containers for this very reason?
Yes, I believe so. And if customers won't go for it, they have to come up with something else, not fine people.
A natural consequence of most Thanksgiving feasts is an incredible amount of leftover food, some of which?from congealed gravy to godawful ambrosia?is promptly tossed in the trash.
Not sure if satire.
If it's written by someone with a hyphenated name, it's real.
It's plausibly in earnest. Holy cow has our culture gone to pieces!
Not sure if intentional satire. FTFY. Unintentional self-parody is the cruellest, and therefore funniest, form of humor.
"cis-normative" is your clue that it's intentional.
It's Carl.
Carl? Carl?? Come on, Paul!
Like a moth to a flame!
Do it so Mother Gaia won't ache in her lady parts.
Yeah, satire. 😀
The saddest thing about this is that people have to ask if this is satire or not because someone, somewhere will earnestly write something very similar. If they haven't already.
I can one-up the sad: someone reading this, then googling Harmony Llewelyn-Sanchez hoping to find more of her work.
If that weren't the case it wouldn't really be successful satire, would it?
Big Stuffing! Could be a band name. Could be a porn film series. Could be the form of the destructor.
Could be an accurate description of my day tomorrow.
Fun fact: the Algonquian culture, with which both the Pilgrims and the Jamestown colony were in close contact, had a tradition that a host was supposed to impress guests with his wealth by feeding them so much food that they could not eat anymore.
Sorry, Harmony, but when i eat until my pants break, THAT is partaking of authentic Native American mores.
The whole idea that Indians lived in a "pristine wilderness" has to die. Indians all over North America burned out the underbrush in forests every year, allowing plains-loving food species such as bison to roam as far east as New York and Virginia. South American Indians made the Amazon rainforest into a giant orchard through the use of tera preta. When the Europeans got here, the only environments that hadn't been altered by people were parts of Patagonia and northern Canada.
You don't seem to get it. If you point out that the Native American tribes were primitive peoples that still practiced animism and used stone-age tools, they will point to the burning of underbrush and the tera preta. If you point out that they did those things, it contradicts the narrative of the noble savage.
Bottom line - casino operators are noble savages when it suits them and enlightened advanced peoples when it suits them.
Someone should show them some pictures of old Native American settlements (small cities in size) in the southwest which have a neat little ring around them extend a mile or more from the city boundaries where almost all the wood has been removed because it was collected *unsustainably* over multiple generations and then burnt for cooking and heating - contributing to global warming.
"People weren't informed about the unsolicited site visits, he added, because King County does not want them to change their behavior in response to being part of the study."
What fucken assholes.
Are people ready to give up still more of their privacy and freedoms for the environment?
Already they've been bullied into giving that up for security, health and education so it's not surprising the state feels it can do stuff like this.
Get out of our bedrooms! And into our wallets and trash cans!
/progs
Obviously the solution is to drench all your trash in butyric acid.
they were working for the county on a study of residents' composting habits.
Rooting out the unmutual.
"People weren't informed about the unsolicited site visits, he added, because King County does not want them to change their behavior in response to being part of the study."
"Of course I'm voting for Hillary. What sort of monster do you take me for?"
time to wrap my scraps in disposable diapers before tossing in the garbage can. no chance any inspector with a functioning brain cell would check there.
Trash inspectors are known fecal freaks, so that may not work in your benefit.
Aww, shit!
In my (former) municipality (Left Coast of Canada) city council gave their garbage collectors permission to root through bags looking for recyclables. One day they did so, leaving my returnable (alcohol) bottles on my front lawn.
I called city hall and took a shit on a few bureaucrats. Pointed out the folly of a policy that encouraged garbage men to root around in the garbage. You know, privacy concerns n' all dat.
After that I not only didn't bother to recycle, but every week the night before garbage day I cleaned out the cat littler box, and dumped the contends in my big garbage bag. I figured if they were tempted to root around they were going to earn it.
^This. Anything I can't shred but don't want people going through gets put in with the used kitty litter. Stuff is highly toxic.
Let's make only what we need and eat only that, just as the Native Americans did before White Europeans ran roughshod over those stewards of the Earth. Let's do it for Mother Gaia, while she still draws a breath.
Gambololol.
Look, the left are finally learning!
How to lecture your deplorable family members!
Oh wait, they've learned nothing.
The fact that white people are going to have to listen to their NASCAR-watching uncles and cousins verbally teabag these little snowflakes after eight years of "you lost, shut up" is going to be epic. In other families where we don't have all sorts of unresolved mommy and daddy issues, we'll just run a Turkey Trot, eat turkey, and watch some football. And any fights will be of the genial "fuck your Cowboys/Lions/Redskins" variety.
The fact that white people are going to have to listen to their NASCAR-watching uncles and cousins verbally teabag these little snowflakes after eight years of "you lost, shut up" is going to be epic.
I assume much of their whiney angst is due to embarrassment. I know that is the case with a friend of mine who immediately complained that he has to listen to it from his wife's pro-Trump family. The War on Smug Relatives beings in earnest tomorrow!
It's an actual article?
Read the fucking thing. It's satire. Goddamn!
Who said it wasn't?
Your original post is, at least, ambiguous. Rufus appears to be confused about it. Sorry if I popped off without cause.
When in doubt just insult Rufus.
That's not cool. Picking on him for being a dirty canukistani is okay, but insulting him as a person is just not right.
This means that I can insult him for his beady little eyes and flappy mouth so full of lies, right?
Ok, I see what you're saying. I know it's satire, I was just agreeing with the writer, but my post wasn't clear on that. Remember when the Obama admin actually was encouraging people to do this?
I'm sure the idea is still out there. Many tears will be shed this Thursday, the presence of an actual salty ham notwithstanding.
Article by Andrew Rotherham. OMG.
How do I know this isn't FAKE NEWS! It sure sounds like something made up in Romania for clicks and giggles.
So to be clear-- the remains of nanny state trash inspectors go into the compost bin?
We covered this upthread - you use them to feed the hogs.
The pig shit goes in the bin.
Or else it gets the hose again?
Does the 4th amendment not apply to creatures like me?
Where I used to live, in Denver, residents can pay $107/year to have a green bin to dispose of compostable material, while trash is paid via taxes, and they also provide a recycling bin. So many residents have 3 bins they have to find somewhere to keep until they are rolled out for pickup.
Makes no sense to participate in the compost program IMHO, yet many residents do (Denver being quite liberal). I could use that bin in the fall, but just top off my participating neighbors' compost bins (with their permission) rather than putting it in the trash (which is often full in the fall). They sell and occasionally give away compost as a result. I guess many residents have been beaten into submission by environmentalists or something.
Reading about the compost program, it seems that with all that income, they still don't make money. I wish they'd privitize the program. If someone is willing to buy the rights to collect compost there, then I'd agree with the program as it makes economic sense. If not, they ought to throw the program out in the trash.
Seattle actually thought that Joe or Josie citizen can tell high density polyethylene from polypropylene? Only if they are clearly marked... Even an expert will have trouble if they're not marked. Also, polypropylene is easily recycled, there just isn't much demand.
AHEM. Excuse me, I'm a Sanitation Engineer!
The less successful garbage police will just issue some fines for 'offending' trash items. The ambitious ones will find some very interesting things in people's garbage, which will of course lead to arrests, bigger fines, and maybe even jail.
Yeah, I feel more sorry for the poor fucker digging through the garbage. You know he had higher career aspirations.
That bachelor's from Oberlin in 14th Century Ugandan Literature didn't open any doors, but only lids apparently.
Why? That poor fucker pulls down $170k a year and will retire at 58 with a full pension.
The GEA is about to be born!
Seriously, 'home inspectors' cannot be that far off after something like this goes into effect. They'll just create an agency that can just walk right into your home anytime they want with no warning and look for 'stuff' that is not state approved and that is a danger to the children. That's when the progs have finally won.
You can already get fined for throwing old TVs in the trash.
They'll just create an agency that can just walk right into your home anytime they want with no warning and look for 'stuff' that is not state approved and that is a danger to the children.
Pretty sure they already have that now, it's just that they still have to go through the motions of getting a warrant.
But eventually they'll get rid of that requirement, and then... Utopia! /sarc
We already have those. They're called building inspectors.
Where do they get copies of literature from a society without an alphabet?
There is no proggie wing of my family. They all voted for Trump or didn't vote. Deplorables all of them. But it's just the wife and I this year anyway, we're staying home. All stocked up with food and alcohol. Good times.
It's oral literature, UnCivil. GOD.
Racist.
58? Poor bastard.
55/30 (age/years of service) for full pension from New York State.
They don't even need that. In many places in Canada (or all, for all I know) municipal inspectors need no warrant to enter your premises to check for things such as (but not limited to) extra 220V power outlets (for stoves or dryers which might indicate an illegal suite), extra kitchen sinks (same reason), to count the number of bathrooms (many municipalities have bylaws requiring a certain number of bathrooms per resident), etc. You have no power as a homeowner to deny entry.
Pretty sure they already have that now, it's just that they still have to go through the motions of getting a warrant.
Nope, not if they are CPS. They just show up with a cop in tow and tell you that while you can refuse to admit them that if you do so the nice officer will stay right there while the CPS biddy goes and gets a warrant. The safety of children is far too important to let quaint notions such as the Fourth Amendment interfere with that.
I believe if there's a 'burn ban' due to air quality alert, you can get fined for lighting your grill.
In many places in Canada (or all, for all I know) municipal inspectors need no warrant to enter your premises to check for things ... You have no power as a homeowner to deny entry.
No wonder so many progtards are wanting to move to Canada now that Trumpitler is president-elect. It truly is their version of Utopia.
Yeah, but nobody in King County government was done with college by 25. All those useless Masters degrees don't earn themselves.
fair enough.
The sad thing is when you run into that poor bastard with over forty years of service and go "why are you still here?" because mathematically, they're losing money by coming to work. (payouts are not subject to NY state income tax and they've hit the cap on the amount they can get) They keep showing up because the only friends they have are co-workers 🙁
I lean heavily towards the "okay fine, go get your warrant." But perhaps a nice middle ground that could benefit you in court after they find your X, Y and Z illegal things, would be to say "I do not consent. I do this under duress." as you open the door (and record the interaction).