Trump and Obama Meet, Trump Transition Plans Begin, Aaron Schock Being Indicted: P.M. Links

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  President-elect Donald Trump sat down with President Barack Obama at the White House for a meeting. The two pledged to work together, but they did not have the typical photo op with the first couples together.

• The incoming Trump administration now has a transition site organized online.
• Trump has invited British Prime Minister Theresa May for a visit. She, you may recall, came into power after the populist success of Brexit there.
• Former Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.) is being indicted by a federal jury for his spending habits while in office, his defense attorneys say.
• Former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa announced he will run for California's governor in 2018. That will put him in competition with former San Francisco mayor and current lieutenant governor Gavin Newsom.
• Bernie Sanders won't rule out running for president again in 2020.
• Russia may block access to LinkedIn for violating a rule that data collected on its citizens must be stored within the country.

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Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

I say we boycott Reason until they fix the commenting on all the Trump articles. WHO'S WITH ME?

[bacon-magic]

You can't fix something when you have tears in your eyes. Delicious tears.

[C. Anacreon]

I'd be with you if one of my comments would actually show up, so you'd know I'm on the team.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

OK, glad I am not the only one. Hopefully robot-loving KMW will dole out some funds and person-power to bring this website into the 21st century.

[CZmacure]

My comments have also not been showing up, including the comments where I call for reason to just friggen integrate with disqus, like everyone else does.

[IbrahimN]

God, no! I understand disqus can expand the libertarian message. However, those people are a special kind of special, though. I block the disqus elements with uBlock, all the time. Just takes to much time, to weave through the comments, finding anything intelligible.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

They're not all insane:

http://bit.ly/2fGeSjg

[rts]

I 100% believe Bernie Sanders could have created a political revolution to beat Trump, but instead we're getting Trump's revolution.

Uh, no.

[Free Society]

Yeah that's what he was most wrong about. Not bad everywhere else.

[Rufus The Monocled]

He gets a pass over that. Overall I appreciate it.

Fuck Bernie Sanders. Lousy commie parasite.

[Free Society]

oh and "progressive libertarian" is a term I hotly contest the validity of. Unless we're talking about Robby...

[Zero Sum Game]

I don't understand how he supports Sanders and... then says that Trump's supporters aren't wrong about a lot of things that Sanders would have made worse.

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

Interesting read, but he has one infallible proggie trait that just doesn't go away:

Meanwhile, the media, and social media kept everyone ignorant and isolated from differing opinions. They lied to us, manipulated us, and made us think the rest of the country agreed with us, when they didn't. They used their position of authority to mislead us into believing in a false reality?in propaganda.

Personal responsibility is not his strong suit.....

[GILMORE?]

Freddie DeBoer's twitter feed has been full of some sweet tidbits

(*excluding his view that what the country really needs is full-blown socialism)

He rips the "mainstream left" to shreds.

Freddie ?@freddiedeboer 8h8 hours ago

If you crawl deeper into the cocoon of ideas that work at Oberlin and on media Twitter and at the Park Slope food co-op you will never win.

[Chipwooder]

I've been reading his twitter feed too. For a guy deluded enough to be a socialist, he has the Dem party establishment pretty well pegged.

[John Titor]

Lenin talked shit about incompetent his fellow socialist groups all the time. Just because you're able to analyze other groups' issues doesn't mean you're able to analyze your own.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Chia seeds don't fill voters' needs.

[Bill Dalasio]

Emma Watson Verified account ?@EmmaWatson
Today I am going to deliver Maya Angelou books to the New York subway. Then I am going to fight even harder for all the things I believe in.
Freddie ?@freddiedeboer
Freddie Retweeted Emma Watson
if only she had done this before the election, Clinton would have secured the old guard union vote in the Rust Belt

[Slumbrew]

Isn't she a Brit? Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense, girl - go fuck up your own country.

[Slumbrew]

I hasten to add - feel free to bring that nonsense if you want to become a citizen. It'll still be useless nonsense, but useless nonsense is your God-given right as a 'murican! /waves flag, shoots off pistols

[BigT]

"if only she had done this before the election, Clinton would have secured the old guard union vote in the Rust Belt"

Maybe if she had made the bj offer like Madonna.

[Holger da Dane]

WTF is a "progressive libertarian"?

[Rufus The Monocled]

A progressive in my experience.

I just had a run in with a friend who claimed as such. Long on the progressive, short on the libertarian.

[Holger da Dane]

Please get your friend to write up or record an explanation of what they think a "progressive" AND a "libertarian" is.. It will be hilarious 🙂

[Trigger Warning]

Please punch your friend in the dick/deliver falcon punch post-haste.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Apparently, someone who thinks liberty comes from being told what to do, at the barrel of a gun.

[tarran]

Oh, you mean a Giuliani supporter! for example Eric Dondero!

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

You know, I've heard the name for years around here, and have no clue as to who he is.

[tarran]

Careful Ser Digby, if he hears you insulting his honor by saying he's not one of the most famous libertarian activists in the U.S. he might give you his cell phone number and challenge you to a fist fight.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Oooohh! Sounds like a winner an asshole.

[Trigger Warning]

Earache Dildero was a noisome war-loving turd who used to troll here. Like a lot of trolls, he claimed to be severely Libertarian. More Libertarian than you could ever hope to be.

To Dildero, Libertarian meant bombing the shit out of people and considering Giuliani to be a serious intellectual statesman.

[End Child Unemployment]

Donderrrrrooooooooooooooo

[Swiss Servator]

DONDEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[Enough About Palin]

A Progressive who smokes pot.

[toolkien]

A person who believes people will be free to do as they please once their housing, utilities, education, food, medical care, transportation, and employment is all "free" and doled out by government. Which pretty much leaves the TV remote and what station to have on. Of course, not being smart or understand finite resources, they think all the former listed "services" comprise maybe 20% of peoples lives and they will be free to dance and frolic about as they like the other 80%. They don't ever comprehend that such a system is what it was like behind the Iron Curtain, or what it was like to live under serfdom. David Brin is of this type. I exchanged some notes with him some time ago. It was not a productive process.

[Adans smith]

Sorry,don't have time. I'm still thinking up chicken puns.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

yO!

Don't know if anyone has seen this?

Trump's first 100?

There's some good stuff on here...

[Slumbrew]

Just the first 6 would be pretty amazing:

* FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;

* SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);

* THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;

* FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;

* FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;

* SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

[Get To Da Chippah]

How does a federal law banning lobbying square with the First Amendment?

[See Double You]

It doesn't ban all lobbying. But even so, you're correct that there would be a First Amendment issue just waiting to be adjudicated.

[Slumbrew]

Agreed. Reynold's revolving door surtax instead?

[Lachowsky]

Holy shit the second would be a great start.

[Zero Sum Game]

THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;

Fuck. I proposed this exact idea years ago but couldn't get too many people to engage me on the idea. Consolidate the law books. Sweep out dead laws that only tempt prosecutors to revive them and let them walk among us as zombies, wrecking lives before finally being double-tapped by the Supreme Court.

My idea included a caveat not here: most laws requiring appropriations have a mandatory sunset clause. The point being that destroying a terrible law or agency is often political suicide, even if it's against everything you stand for. Letting one expire, well that is more palatable to people. The biggest reason is also to keep the fuckers in Congress constantly on the look-out for horrid laws (and actually know what is on the books) and keep them busy considering whether the laws we have need to stay or need to go. If it sounds like busy work, that's because it is, and the more busy work you give the kids during the summer (mowing the lawn, weeding the garden, etc.), the less trouble those little shits can get up to.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

horrid laws

"Ha ha ha! Your oxymoron is puny, and, laughable!"

/U.S. Federal Government

[Lachowsky]

Me and a buddy came up with the idea that every law had to be voted on whether or not to keep every year. Individually. It would keep the congresscritters so busy they would have to vote not to keep 95% just to get their work load down to managable.

[Mad Scientist]

And today we'll be voting on the 2016 All Laws Are Good Omnibus bill, reinstating whatever we already have going on...

[Zero Sum Game]

Omnibus appropriations bills just need to be outlawed altogether. An end to "The Great Trough" and the justification that "OMG, THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT WILL SHUT DOWN IF THE OTHER SIDE DOESN'T STOP OBSTRUCTING US!"

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

That's one reason to allow everyone covered by a law to force a jury trial on whether it is defective for being vague, inconsistent, unclear, etc, and if found so, it is voided in its entirety. No appeals, because an appeal merely confirms the law was too confusing to understand by 12 ordinary people.

It is vital to void defective laws entirely, to prevent this kind of omnibus renewal. It is also important to not let the jury rewrite the defective parts, becaude that is for legislators only.

[Lord Rollingpin]

FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;

Glenn Reynolds smiles, close enough to his revolving door tax.

[Lord Rollingpin]

It's better than it was.

[Lord Rollingpin]

LOL, that was a reply to the first comment of the thread!

[Fist of Etiquette]

...but they did not have the typical photo op with the first couples together.

Too much grabbing temptation.

[tarran]

LEt me guess, Melania was repulsed by Biden lying in wait in the corridor.

[Citizen X]

"Hey baby, wanna see how many pushups i can do?"

[Brett L]

Nah. He was "working" on the Trans Am with his shirt off, just revving the engine over and over again.

[Citizen X]

I thought the Trans got towed, and he was still trying to figure out how to steal it from the impound yard.

[BYODB]

There really needs to be an entire Netflix miniseries based solely on the premise of Biden being exactly what the commenters here paint him to be. It would be one of the most entertaining things on television, in my opinion.

[Slumbrew]

I'd sign up for Netflix just for that.

[Slumbrew]

TBF, I think maybe The Onion started it?

[Lord Rollingpin]

Thanks, those are great.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

More likely the wookie stare down was too much for her Slavic sensibilities. But I bet Obama hugged her.

[BigT]

"I bet Obama hugged her."

They're real, and they're fabulous!

[jack sprat]

Biden got the go ahead to grab her by the...

[Injun, as in from India]

Horns?

[PBR Streetgang]

Like Shock G said "in the biscuits"?

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

+1 "Give me the helmet, and I'll be the stunt man"

[Chipwooder]

He once got busy in a Burger King bathroom, you know

[CZmacure]

I will never cease to be amazed at a person with your nick and apparent musical taste posting at reason.com...

[C. Anacreon]

I"m sure she knows much too well what happens in the back seats of Pontiac Trans-Ams.

[Jerry on the sea]

I can only hope Putin will send Trump a female Siberian tiger to serve as official White House pet.

[Brett L]

These euphemisms for sexual abuse of women are really out of hand.

[Episteme]

I'm still guessing that Chris Christie will end up as the official White House pet, living in a sumptuous doghouse on the South Lawn.

[Riven]

I actually do wonder about this.

Which woman didn't want to meet the other one?

[Tonio]

You assume it was only one.

[Injun, as in from India]

Try posting this on Derpbook.

$5 says you will have your language policed and your attitude corrected.

(shriek!) "You're sexist for saying woman are like that."

[Riven]

I don't have a FaceSpace, thank goodness, because that does sound like a bet I'd lose.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Riven, you can be sure there was no potential threesome discussion. Not even the devil kind.

[Free Society]

...but they did not have the typical photo op with the first couples together.

Too much grabbing temptation

The Obamas were worried Trump would reach for one of his customary grabs only to find himself firmly gripping Michele's fabled penis.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

His hands are too small!

[Zero Sum Game]

Jesus, that's bigger than mine! I thought liberals had an aversion to packing heat!

[SimonD]

The Obamas were worried Trump would reach for one of his customary grabs only to find himself firmly gripping Michele's fabled penis.

...followed by the Crocodile Dundee treatment?

[Zero Sum Game]

SugarFree said it. It is known.

[Fist of Etiquette]

President-elect Donald Trump sat down with President Barack Obama at the White House for a meeting.

Welcoming a political neophyte with a legion of mindless followers? Now Obama knows how Bush felt.

[PurityDiluting]

The media has started playing up the "political neophyte" angle.
Schadenfreude is beginning to turn into ah just get over it already

[Mr Drew]

Agreed. I spent a second day doing basically nothing but drinking proggy tears online and now that I'm close to sated, I'm finding myself getting annoyed again. Weird.

[Zero Sum Game]

I wasn't the only one. I can't believe how delicious they were. It was like wandering in the desert and finding that the oasis I thought I saw wasn't a mirage after all. It's a shitty little shanty town and the inhabitants suck ass. Time to walk the desert again. A libertarian's work criticizing this bullshit duopoly is never done.

[BYODB]

Oooh, burn!

[Fist of Etiquette]

TRUTH BOMB TIME

[rts]

Police: UL-Lafayette student made up story of being beaten, robbed of wallet and hijab

A University of Louisiana at Lafayette student who told police she was beaten and subjected to ethnic slurs by two men [one of whom wearing a Trump hat!] who then robbed her wallet and took her hijab has admitted making up the story, Lafayette Police said Thursday.

[Tonio]

I believe the hat to be capable of anything.

[Rich]

Honor trumps truth.

[Zero Sum Game]

What about honor killings? Muslims are still into that, aren't they?

[Rhywun]

She didn't even wait to ruin two innocent people's lives first? Piker.

[Chipwooder]

A lurid story of a minority being physically attacked by evil white men on a college campus turned out to be a complete fabrication? Color me shocked.

[Douchey defeats Trumpman, Jr.]

"Grab its motherfucking pussy."

[GILMORE?]

Reuters is still running that story sans any update

I also like how the (typical) SPLC source cites the 'similar wave of attacks' post brexit

Mark Potok, senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center civil rights advocacy group, said he had not seen such a rash of hate crimes in the United States since Barack Obama was elected president in 2008.

A similar wave also occurred when Great Britain voted in June to leave the European Union, Potok said.

That "similar wave" was also pretty much entirely contrived out of thin air. It was based on a report (spoonfed to the police, then demanding a statement from police) that said that "Online Harassment had risen dramatically..."...

....from a website which had just been set-up asking people to self-report their online harassment.

Its a tissue-thin M.O. by the left = activist generate bullshit statistics, feed bullshit statistic to someone in power, get that person to quote bullshit stat to news media, news media reports Person of Authority's statement as secondary-confirmation of fact.

[Enough About Palin]

Similar (likely):

Maple Grove students, principal combat racist graffiti with words of love

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

"Be about love," Becker said. "I love you all very deeply."

Uh, someone better keep an eye on this principal.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Former Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.) is being indicted by a federal jury for his spending habits while in office...

Will he decorate his cell like Downtown Abbey?

[grrizzly]

It's Downton Abbey.

[Fist of Etiquette]

In prison it's downtown abbey.

[Fist of Etiquette]

If you know what I mean.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Rape, is what I'm talking about. Prison rape.

[Adans smith]

I think you blew it.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

you blew it.

But it saved him from being ass-raped... for a little while.

[jack sprat]

my work colleagues are wondering (once again) what is wrong with me, since I just spit out water laughing.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

I was told the term is "pound town".

[Swiss Servator]

"We get caught laundering money, we're not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no. We're going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison."

[Charles Easterly]

*sends Switzy a printer to do with as he chooses*

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Back up in your ass with the resurrection.

Now, the joke comes full circle.

/not a eupemism

[Tonio]

+1 Where all the lights are bright

[Fist of Etiquette]

Trump has invited British Prime Minister Theresa May for a visit.

She'll be comped at the White House casino.

[TheZeitgeist]

Q will have to drum up titanium grab-proof undergarments for Theresa's big meetup.

Talk about confused over what to wear!

[bacon-magic]

+1 ejector seat pad

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

There's a joke here about the Chinese ambassador and a finger trap...

Racist?

[rts]

Ready for a heaping of Canada smug?

Well, too bad:

Justin Trudeau may see purpose in the time of Trump

In Canada, of course, we have long defined ourselves by how we seem to differ from Americans. And however lazy that method of measurement might have been in the past, it might be justified now, at least as a motivation.

Whatever Canada's faults, however it has failed in the past, there is much to be said for standing in opposition to what now seems to dominate American politics, not with self-satisfaction but with a renewed and newly urgent commitment to the plurality, community, benevolence and reason that is now lacking in the United States.

Fuck. Right. Off. Eh.

[Florida Hipster]

You know what I like about being an American? Not giving a fuck what the rest of the world thinks/does.

[Riven]

I like the cut of your gib

[Riven]

Not that you care!

[Slumbrew]

gib?

[Riven]

My bad.

jib*

[Slumbrew]

Sailor, not pedant. Well, not _this_ time.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Landlubbers.

[Charles Easterly]

So like, that person's shirt claims "Captain Pedantic Pants" and it's, like, um, a shirt .

Hello? Like, so am I the only one who cares about what "Pedantic" means anymore?

Not okay. Or should I say "Knot Okay" to be understood anymore?

I. Kant. Even.

(That was slightly enjoyable)

[Florida Hipster]

She likes my giblets.

[See Double You]

I like the cut of your gib

Your inner gamer is showing.

[Douchey defeats Trumpman, Jr.]

One of my co-workers wasn't exactly for Hillary, but the day after the election she said, "I'm just worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us today."

Fuck that noise. If that's a factor, I want to vote for the most embarrassing person there ever was. I'm already calling for a Vanilla Ice/June Shannon ticket in 2020.

[Lachowsky]

Flavor Flave/Lindsay Lohan.

[Rufus The Monocled]

We're not American!

Drink!

[But Enough About Me]

Man, when a douchebag like Trudeau starts speaking for all of us, I really hate my country. Even though it's not my country's fault.

Well, okay, it is my country's fault (way too many people voted for The Hair That Walks Like A Man?), but there's at least some comforting signs of buyer's remorse setting in . . .

[yet another dave]

No it's Ontario and Quebec's fault... just sayin

[Rufus The Monocled]

Trudeau doesn't speak for me. Never has and never will.

But I'm not going to protest or scream like a shrill little dipshit about it either like we're seeing with idiot SJWs and progs about Trump.

Morons.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

You let Red Green do your talking?

[dschwar]

"I'm pulling for you. We're all in this together."

[John Titor]

In Canada, of course, we have long defined ourselves by how we seem to differ from Americans.

And there's the reflexive cultural insecurity that just shows how much we've decayed as a nation since the 19th century.

Whatever Canada's faults, however it has failed in the past, there is much to be said for standing in opposition to what now seems to dominate American politics, not with self-satisfaction but with a renewed and newly urgent commitment to the plurality, community, benevolence and reason that is now lacking in the United States.

This man's father declared martial law over a kidnapping.

[Tonio]

RICHMOND, VA: Anti-Trump thugs block interstate, vandalize Republican headquarters and public monuments, attach news cameraman. They are apparently massing for further protests tonight; ironic that Trump did not win in Virginia.

[PBR Streetgang]

VCU students.

[Tonio]

Probably, yes. BTW, for non East Coast folks, I-95 which they blocked last night is the major North South interstate for the East Coast.

[Lee Genes]

Damn kids were slowing down the cocaine flow to NYC

[Juice]

"your vote was a hate crime."

perfect

[PBR Streetgang]

So, progressive college student is NOT a fan of universal suffrage. Good to know.

[Holger da Dane]

Sure, now they discover Bastiat.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

"your vote was a hate crime."

Against you? Probably.

If I had voted, I probably would have voted so as to piss off the tagger.

[Injun, as in from India]

All these shenanigans will only harden the hearts of those voted for Trump.

I'm expecting Trump to get re-elected in 2020 if this continues.

[Spartacus]

November 1: "You must accept the election result, otherwise you are anti-democracy!"

November 9:"NOT MY PRESIDENT!!!!!!"

[Rhywun]

I was of half a mind to follow Deblasio around and shout "Not my mayor!" at him but then I remembered I'm not six years old.

[See Double You]

Lol.

[Chipwooder]

and I have to go downtown tonight for work. God help any of these fucks if they stand between me and tucking my kids in at bedtime. Hopefully, they'll have quick reflexes.

[Douchey defeats Trumpman, Jr.]

I'm hoping they don't. Something has to thin out their ranks.

[Lachowsky]

install a snow plow on the front of your vehicle. They will know you mean business

[Slumbrew]

Something like this would work wonders.

[Zero Sum Game]

It's called a cow catcher. Kinda fitting, because SJWs.

[Citizen X]

Bernie Sanders won't rule out running for president again in 2020.

Methinks the simple calculus of lifespan might have other ideas.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Larry David can stand in for him.

[Lee Genes]

4 years ain't long. That's just a couple of bread lines away.

[Shirley Knott]

He would be a much more acceptable candidate if he were a vegetable.

[Lee Genes]

They could set him up like Lenin. Keep all the proggies busy in a line waiting to see his preserved corpse.

[jack sprat]

Just enjoy your vacation home Bernie.

[PurityDiluting]

Rachel Maddow slams 3rd-party voters

The comments, oh the comments. They look like the H&R commentariat went on a field trip disguised as Bernie Bots

[Citizen X]

It's called Poe's LAW, not Poe's Suggestion.

[AlmightyJB]

She's sn idiot

[Rhywun]

"If you vote for somebody who can't win for president, it means that you don't care who wins for president."

That is possibly the stupidest meme of the whole goddamn election. Is it so stupid that its origins are more "evil" than "stupid". She is an evil person.

[BYODB]

In a way, she's not wrong. I didn't care who became President, and that's 50% the fault of the Democrat party. So, what, I gotta vote for a person I fucking loathe? Oh, wait, no I don't. There's a third party and Hillary did nothing to earn my vote. In fact, she did the opposite of what I would have wanted on all issues. So, yeah, she can go sell crazy someplace else. We're all stocked up here.

[Chip Woodier]

"If you vote for somebody who can't win for president, it means that you don't care who wins for president."

Didn't she just vote for somebody that couldn't win for president?

[Slumbrew]

I had a similar thought. Ergo, a vote for Hillary meant you didn't care who won, since she couldn't win.

[Enough About Palin]

And yet a Rhodes Scholar she was.

[Enough About Palin]

And yet a Rhodes Scholar she was.

[Enough About Palin]

And yet a Rhodes Scholar she was.

[Enough About Palin]

WTF?

[Unreconstructed (Sans Flag)]

Wait...WTF is a squirrel? I knew there was something about that guy I didn't like!

[C. Anacreon]

I just had to turn on her show last evening to see what she'd be like. It was more amazing than I could have imagined.

Her face looked like she was just told she had a week to live.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I didn't see it, but I sort of imagined it was like when Lydia found out Walter White had poisoned her.

[BakedPenguin]

If Lydia was played by a homely actress with no hair.

[deepspeed]

Spoilers!

[bacon-magic]

I held a mason jar up to the tv just in case the tears turned digital.

[Fist of Etiquette]

What about poor Comey? Doesn't he rate at least some ire?

[Florida Hipster]

I got sucked in for 15 minutes! Warning! It's a derp whirlpool!

[Chipwooder]

Nothing makes me prouder than knowing that I piss off Rachel Maddow.

[Juice]

What about the 45% of registered voters who didn't vote? What about all the people of voting age who aren't registered to vote?

[Juice]

Another article from the same website:

This Election Is Making People's IBS Worse

[Get To Da Chippah]

I don't know why she's so mad. I mean, I helped Obama win twice the same way I helped Trump win this time and she didn't complain then.

[Charles Easterly]

Nice , Chippah.

[Charles Easterly]

They look like the H&R commentariat went on a field trip disguised as Bernie Bots.

Thank you for the link, PD.

I think you have a good point, It "Berns" there (and it seems to me that several of the commentators make salient points)..

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Why do all of these people assume that HRC would've received those votes and not Trump?

[Fist of Etiquette]

That will put him in competition with former San Francisco mayor and current lieutenant governor Gavin Newsom.

When will it be a northern California mayor's turn?

[The Fusionist]

Let me check my calendar...hmmm, how about when hell freezes over, can I pencil you in then?

[jack sprat]

Careful, the Cubs won the World Series after all.

[paranoid android]

Gavin Newsom...that's the bad guy from Silicon Valley, right?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Consider the bulldog...

[Slumbrew]

Gavin Belson built a billion dollar company. Gavin Newsom hasn't done jack-shit, other than look handsome and get people to vote for him (and, briefly, get a smokeshow to marry him - he promptly fucked that up, of course).

[Slumbrew]

Oh, and Newsom is also known for making the mistake of doing a long-form interview with Adam Carolla and assuming he'd be able to do his usual glib BS. Corolla tore into him pretty good. Wouldn't surprise me if someone on Newsom's staff got fired after that.

[C. Anacreon]

I've had a couple of opportunities to meet Newsom through the years. He's a stunningly stupid Brylcreem-haired pretty-boy who can't do much more than be propped up in front of cameras and say what he's been told to say.

When I say unintelligent, I mean he's dumb even for a politician. Like "won't the island tip over?" dumb.

[Slumbrew]

That's totally believable. He sounds exactly like a couple sales guys I know who are really pretty dull but have a semi-canned spiel they can throw out. Every pause Newsom makes when talking, I'm just picturing a spinning beach-ball icon - "Processing... processing... processing..."

[Rhywun]

So... he's a shoo-in for higher office?

[Juice]

Trump needs to follow precedent and have podiums with the US Seal and "Office of the President Elect" on it. For the lulz. Everything he does should be for the lulz from hear on out.

[Juice]

*here

[Mad Scientist]

Hear! Hear!

[Injun, as in from India]

Office of the President Elect

Or contract with Viagara and have a podium for "Office of the President Erect".

For sh1ts and giggles.

[That's A Bingo!]

The man is too classy for that.

[That's A Bingo!]

"For the lulz"

Ann Coulter as press secretary.

Sheriff Joe to head Immigration And Customs Enforcement

[Chip Woodier]

Ann Coulter as press secretary.

That would explode a few heads.

[Episteme]

I'm hoping for Milo Yiannopoulos as Press Secretary ? imagine the trolling in every press conference!

[To: Trshmnstr From: Hrod [C]]

I don't know what to say about this link, except that it's relevant.

[Slumbrew]

Milo as Press Secretary would be amazing. AFAICT, he's as qualified as any other Press Secretary we've had.

[Injun, as in from India]

Bernie Sanders won't rule out running for president again in 2020.

Who needs 23 brands of walkers when children are starving in this country?

[jack sprat]

applause

[Unicorn Abattoir]

So you're saying we should just get rid of the starving children?

[Quincy.]

I read it as 23 brands of wankers.

[Injun, as in from India]

23 brands of wankers?

That's the leadership of the Democrat* Party.

--
*I refuse to call them the Democratic Party.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

It took me a while to realize that wasn't a Walking Dead joke.

[Rich]

they did not have the typical photo op with the first couples together.

SEE?! THIS is why Hillary lost!

[PurityDiluting]

Don't blame Comey
"Too bad for Democrats there are zero electoral votes in the State of Denial"

[AlmightyJB]

I see that that Trump is hiring. Can I put in my contract that I can't be fired unless Trump personally looks me in the eyes and says "You're fired"?

[rts]

Canada PM says ready to renegotiate NAFTA with Trump

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Thursday he is willing to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which US President-elect Donald Trump has said he wants to change or scrap.

[That's A Bingo!]

For all of the talk about Trump as a great, negotiator, he doesn't have a good track record. He usually pays above-top dollar for poor quality assets. I have a feeling Canada will get the good end of the deal.

[But Enough About Me]

Trump won't negotiate personally with Trudeau anyways.

He's more likely to give Trudeau a head noogie and a wedgie in public.

There will only be one Alpha Male in that particular meet-up. Trump'll save his personal negotiations for countries he thinks are important, like Russia.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Trump is gonna clean his clock.

Harper would have been more credible. Trudeau I don't have any faith in.

[John Titor]

And there it is. Get ready to desperately lick Trump's boots for a good deal Zoolander. For the country you love so much.

[waffles]

Is this pussy-grabbing meme eternal? Because I'm fucking sick of it already.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Sounds like SOMEONE got grabbed in the pussy.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

You are just feeling left out. Don't worry, Trump will say "grab them by the cock" sooner or later.

[But Enough About Me]

No, that'll be Melania.

Or, God Willing, Ivanka. (Be still, my beating heart . . . )

[Rich]

Bernie Sanders won't rule out running for president again in 2020.

Meh. Neither will Angela Davis.

[Tonio]

Voting 3rd party is a good way to let marginialized groups know that your abstract principles are more important than their very real lives.

The lack of self-awareness is stunning. Also, bonus points for mask slippage.

[Brett L]

Yes. Who wants to act on their conscience?

[B.P.]

So now I'm supposed to vote on behalf of marginalized groups?

[Enough About Palin]

To not do so is racist you white privilege fuck-stain.

[Juvenile Bluster]

I really would like to thank the left for continuing to make this so entertaining that I don't have to concentrate on the fact that Donald Trump will be our next president.

[Invisible Finger]

I voted for Trump because lefty butthurt entertainment. Even though I kinda wanted Dems to own the coming economic crash/bubble burst.

[Mad Scientist]

The narrative has already placed the blame for the economy on Bush.

[PurityDiluting]

^This, and I thought that there would be no honeymoon at all this time.
These few days of bliss will be bookmarked

[Rhywun]

'So is anything in here gold-plated? Anything at all?'

"What a dump! Amirite?"

[Riven]

Moving into the white house has to be a downgrade for Trump, right? I expect there will be some, ahem, renovations.

[Jerry on the sea]

Trump knowing he will probably bulldoze the place and replace it with the White Tower.

[Lee Genes]

The gold leaf on the Ionic columns is going to be spectacular.

[Juice]

Presidents get to redecorate the Oval Office to their liking. It's going to be craptastic.

[gaoxiaen]

Get that Georgia O'Keeffe painting, but add a little red.

[C. Anacreon]

At 4AM Eastern election night, Megyn Kelly on Fox News made what was probably one of her best-ever lines:

"He's probably going to be the first President for whom moving into the White House is a downgrade."

[Invisible Finger]

So he'll be the first to understand how truly fucked up Washington is.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Third, after Washington and Kennedy.

[dschwar]

I think the Bushes had a little money invested in their regular homes too.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

She stole that from Donald, Jr. or Eric I believe.

[AlmightyJB]

Is that Secretary Clinton's portrait? Hang that in the john over the toilet.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

The incoming administration gets to redecorate the oval office. Visualize that for a second.

[AlmightyJB]

Not too difficult

http://www.austinlandingstrip......round1.jpg

[Swiss Servator]

*applause*

[But Enough About Me]

++AWSE!

[Douchey defeats Trumpman, Jr.]

Former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa announced he will run for California's governor in 2018. That will put him in competition with former San Francisco mayor and current lieutenant governor Gavin Newsom.

Which one's the Republican again?

[Injun, as in from India]

Top Two is Tyranny.

[TheZeitgeist]

Gavin's kinda deluded competing for Hispanic slot on the Politburo.

[Mazakon]

Hillary Supporters Sign Petition to Overturn Election Results

A petition started by a man in North Carolina to persuade the Electoral College to elect Hillary Clinton as president is gaining traction on the internet ? more than 352,000 people have signed the Change.org petition since it was created Wednesday night.

The petition asks members of the Electoral college to vote for Hillary Clinton because she won the popular vote and expresses that President-elect Donald Trump is unfit to serve.

First protests over a democratic result, now a petition to overturn the result, starting to sense a pattern.

[Jerry on the sea]

"This election is rigged, rigged I tell you!"

[Unicorn Abattoir]

"I'm shocked, SHOCKED, to find that this election is rigged!"

"Your electoral votes sir."

"Thank you!"

[PurityDiluting]

A bit of gobbledygook suggests that they shouldn't get their hopes up

"Objections
Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 sets the method for objections to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, Members of Congress may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately in a session which cannot last more than two hours with each Member speaking for no more than five minutes. After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted."

[Rufus The Monocled]

DEMOCRACY PROGRESSIVE STYLE! VOTE OUR WAY OR ELSE!

[See Double You]

As I've experienced firsthand, Change.org is human excrement.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Just had a friend and associate with whom I work very closely put this on Facebook:

I am not an active facebook user, (most, if not all of you already know this). But just because I am not active, does not mean I do have a side. During this very raw and emotional time for our country, I need to clarify where I stand so there's no confusion:
I do not support bigotry.
I do not support bullying.
I do not support sexism.
I do not support racism.
I do not support xenophobia.
I do not support homophobia.
I do not support hate.
If you or the candidate you supported, is aligned with any/ALL of the ideals listed above, then I can no longer be associated with you (even if it's only Facebook).
A leading, first-world society has no place for hate, in any form. And I strongly suggest, for those of you who agree we me, make it known that hate has no place in your lives either.

So, if I voted for Johnson, am I "associateable" or not?

[Lee Genes]

Unfortunately, as a Johnson supporter, you weren't even for public association.

[Lee Genes]

...freedom of association.... (dammit)

[Mad Scientist]

So, your associate isn't going to have many people to talk to after she unfriends all the Trump and Clinton voters.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Ha! Assumed it was a she ... it's a he.

[The Fusionist]

So brave. Against bigotry and hate.

[Rhywun]

Glad he told us, or we would have known he wasn't any of those things.

[tarran]

You should ask him. 😉

And then enjoy the angry spinning.

[Invisible Finger]

Sounds like he DOES support socialism.

Frightening how many people think racism is a worse evil than socialism. Racism means I won't associate with you because of your race, socialism means I want you dead for any reason I can dream up.

[AlmightyJB]

Reply and post this video and tell him that if he supports the warmongering criminal that supports this war, then he needs to watch this video and then shove his sanctimony and moral superiority up his ass because you voted for the anti-war candidate.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i.....comments=1

[gaoxiaen]

How to not make friends, but influence them.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

A leading, first-world society has no place for hate, in any form. And I strongly suggest, for those of you who agree we me, make it known that hate has no place in your lives either.

I mean, it sounds like you have a lot of hate.

I wanted to start chanting "Hate, hate, hate," by the end of that screed.

[paranoid android]

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

[Nephilium]

You've got to step up your hate game.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

And your friend if he hates haters.

[Rich]

An Oceanside man who died of natural causes in September was elected to office in the coastal San Diego County city more than a month later, officials confirmed Wednesday.

He had jolly well better serve out his term.

[Tonio]

That's funny, normally it's just the voters who are the zombies.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

+1 Election at Bernie's

[Dr. Fronkensteen]

Is it just me or did anyone else think the Democrats were insulting a large part of the electorate? The Democrats in referring to the Trump voters as homophobic, misogynistic, and racist didn't have anyone jumping up and down saying the name callers were being offensive. So the Democrats didn't notice what they were doing. The Trumpkins just took it, got offended, and then voted. Given the response of the Democrats to the election I wonder if they ever will understand how it doesn't help them and how much is this going to hurt them in the future.

[Lee Genes]

They won't understand for a long time, if ever. Emoting has been raised to a higher platform than logic. Social signaling has taken over.

[That's A Bingo!]

Basket of deplorables.

[Jerry on the sea]

I think the must insulting part was when Clinton asked Lady Gaga to perform on stage. "See this little woman dance, now vote for me you bastards!!"

[That's A Bingo!]

She wore Nazi-inspired clothing during that performance. It was a last-ditch effort to grab the Trump vote.

[C. Anacreon]

This.

I've been pointing out to my devastated lefty friends, if you call wide swaths of people uneducated racist bigot slobs, why are you surprised when they don't vote to support your side?

For some reason this has just made them madder and do even more name-calling. Cognitive dissonance.

[Injun, as in from India]

The Trumpkins just took it, got offended, and then voted.

And quite possibly lied to pollsters, because you know you will be demonized if you say you support Trump.

Hence our "Dewey beats Truman" moment.

[Riven]

I posted a much glibber version of this in reply to a friend of mine on MFP.

Basically, "Go ahead and make your political opponents less than people. See how well that works for you. Hillary certainly did. Lol."

Lost a friend over that and I don't regret it

[SimonD]

Since this seems to be frighteningly common lately, I may as well say it once.

That person was never your friend.

[PurityDiluting]

JUDY WOODRUFF: Steve Deace, you brought up the whole disconnect point. We have strived, I think, in newsrooms for years to become, as we like to put it, more like America, to be more diverse. But I hear you saying we have missed a whole chunk of the country in our effort to be diverse.

STEVE DEACE: I don't think there is any question about this. But how many people in the newsroom here right now at PBS, how many that work here, how many are pro-life? How many of them go to church or to mass once a week? How many of them voted for Trump? There is a huge lack of ideological and cultural diversity in our newsrooms.

You know, what Margaret said about some of the things Trump said, that's why I was #NeverTrump. I was disturbed by those things. But you know what also disturbed me? To hear Hillary Clinton say that I am her quote "enemy," the comments that were made in the previous segment from the WikiLeaks e-mails calling Christians backwards, the fact that those of us who think that we shouldn't have men in bathrooms next to our young daughters are called bigots, when we used to just call them parents.

Those things create a backlash as well. So, I don't fault the media for thinking that Trump couldn't get elected because of his incendiary comments. The fault, though, comes in the fact that an equal light was not shed on Hillary's incendiary comments and the backlash that created against her, which we saw in the vote total last night.

[Ceci n'est pas un woodchipper]

Nope, they won't learn. They'll just fade into obscurity, cursing everyone who disagrees with them.

[Tonio]

And now, the threats (via derpbook, typos reproduced from original):

Dear white friends,

Please be careful in what you choose to post in the days, weeks, months or even years to come about how we got to a Trump presidency. As a general rule, let's just say it's not in your interest to speak about the racial dynamics of this as it relates to people of color AT ALL. Seriously. Exit poll after exit poll show that the majority of white voters voted fro Turmp...

I've resisted unfriending anyone because of recent events, but I think it's time.

[Injun, as in from India]

Tonio, just post whatever the heck you want and tell them you're trans-racial black like Rachel Dolezal and Shaun King.

The snowflakes can deal with it.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Trump got a lower percentage of the white vote than Romney. He got a higher percentage of the black and hispanic ote than Romney.

[Injun, as in from India]

Demographics is destiny, except when it isn't.

[SimonD]

Trump got a MUCH lower percentage of the white vote, than President Obama (or Mrs. Clinton) got of the black vote.

Seriously, fuck these people with rusty farm implements.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Why, I'm enjoying mining the salt. Once I'm tired of that I'll back to not logging in.

[Atanarjuat]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. The Simpsons had an eerily accurate depiction of a Trump grand entrance.

[Juice]

That's a little too accurate. The ceiling. The camera angle. Everything is pretty much spot on. Spooky.

[Chip Woodier]

Spooky...and a hoax.

[wef]

"Former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa announced ..... in competition with former San Francisco mayor and current lieutenant governor Gavin Newsom."

There is likely a political-economic plenism going on here. That is, nature abhors a vacuum. With the corrupt disintegration of the Californian repubes as a party to a hughhewitt-level of relevance, there is likely to arise some organized factional divisions elsewhere to manage and profit off of fights between competing interests. Geography is usually correlated at least in part with interests, and it would be easy to see the growth of formal groups roughly representing the north and south of the state.

[That's A Bingo!]

How much money did Clinton raise? What the hell did she spend it on? Consultants?

[Lord Rollingpin]

Remember that Jeb blew through 10 million dollars to achieve exactly, nothing.

[wef]

How Jeb Bush Spent $130 Million Running for President With Nothing to Show for It

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02......html?_r=0

[Mazakon]

Didn't Even Take 24 Hours for Hate Crime Hoaxes to Start

Two men repeatedly punched and yelled racial slurs at a middle eastern University of Louisiana at Lafayette student Wednesday before stealing her wallet and hijab head covering, according to an initial police report of the incident.

A University of Louisiana at Lafayette student who told police she was beaten and subjected to ethnic slurs by two men who then robbed her wallet and took her hijab has admitted making up the story, Lafayette Police said Thursday.

[Domestic Dissident]

they did not have the typical photo op with the first couples together

Poor Barack. Having Melania a in major photo op sitting next to the disgusting first Wookie with the big fat ass is more than just a little embarrassing and emasculating.

[GILMORE?]

Bernie Sanders won't rule out running for president again in 2020.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAINS

[TheZeitgeist]

Bernie Sanders won't rule out running for president again in 2020.

Bernie doesn't grasp entropy is a capitalist.

He will.

[B.P.]

I'm a little confused by the protests. Barring any appearances of impropriety, is it normal for supporters of the losing team to take to the streets in protest after losing? Isn't the losing side supposed to just exit the arena in exasperation or anger and get together to grumble about the play calling, lack of leadership, need for a better player at a certain position, etc? And aren't protests supposed to have demands or a desired outcome or something? Are there people marching around with signs that say things like "Reality Should Bend to My Preferences" and "Do Over"?

Exit question: Are some of the protesters the same people who ginned up within themselves a dose of fake outrage over Trump's answer in the last debate to the question about accepting the results of the election?

[Juvenile Bluster]

Sure it's normal. Don't you remember all the violent right-wing protests after Obama's wins in 2008 and 2012?

No?

Hmmmm.

[AlmightyJB]

If it were Trump supporters protesting, no matter how peacefully, we would hear Kristallnacht 24/7 from the media.

[SimonD]

Hell, I'm surprised most of the media personalities aren't out there personally leading the protests. (and not just for the story)

[See Double You]

I think we can describe these people by your handle, JB.

[Mad Scientist]

The protesters are merely trying to reinforce Trump voters' decision by behaving like petulant crybabies.

[GILMORE?]

How Hillary Clinton's white voters melted away

Havent read article. Presume its entirely wrong. I think the real answer is closer to "They were never really that into you"

The headline made me think of this

[Adans smith]

'Hey,where are duh white women"

[Microaggressor]

Turns out, having supporters that wish extinction upon your race isn't a great way to win their favor. Who knew?

[Jerry on the sea]

Better think twice before seeking refuge from Trump in Sweden.

[Free Society]

Sounds like paradise except for all the socialists.

[Juvenile Bluster]

But I love snow!

[tarran]

After the global warming that's going to happen after Trump singlehandedly dismantles the EPA and puts all the carbon back in the atmosphere, Sweden will be snow free.

[Domestic Dissident]

Speaking of Wookies, one of the biggest pluses to the Trump administration will be to have an actual lady as the First Lady once again. No more fat-assed pigs hectoring all the rest of us to eat more arugula while she shoves one giant double-scoop ice cream cone after another after another down her gullet on Martha's Vineyard.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Unfortunately I fear she's going to be the Nancy Reagan-type when it comes to hectoring. I'd rather her be like Barbara Bush.

[That's A Bingo!]

Every First Lady has an issue. What should Melania's be?

[AlmightyJB]

Banging Libertarians

[Slumbrew]

*thunderous applause*

[Swiss Servator]

*stands and salutes*

[waffles]

I think she said bullying.

[Ken Shultz]

Instead of trying to get children to eat vegetables and exercise, maybe Melania will try to dress them properly.

No, honey, blue and green does not go together.

[That's A Bingo!]

Gilmore can consult.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

No, honey, blue and green does not go together.

The Tomorrow People taught me this.

[Tonio]

The progs are planning a #NOTMYPRESIDENT "rally" in DC on Jan 20 (Inaguration Day). This is going to be delicious.

[Mad Scientist]

It's all part of their credo of diversity and inclusiveness.

[AlmightyJB]

#NOTMYSUGARDADDY

[tarran]

I wonder if Obama will attend! 😉

[Swiss Servator]

*spit-take...snorts, then applauds*

[GILMORE?]

Obama rushing to get those boondoggles in before the party's over

WASHINGTON (AP) ? The Obama administration took action Thursday to boost development of solar and wind energy on public lands, part of President Barack Obama's strategy to develop cleaner domestic energy and reduce emissions blamed for global warming.

A final rule announced by the Interior Department would create a new leasing program on public lands and encourage development in areas where it would have fewer effects on the environment.

The rule came a little more than two months before President-elect Donald Trump takes office, and a new Republican administration could reconsider the rule or even scrap it.

The Interior Department said the rule would encourage renewable energy on the nation's vast swaths of public lands while generating millions of dollars in revenue.

Solar Energy "investment", in 1 picture

"Thanks Obama"

[SimonD]

Do you remember when the Progs used to screech about any commercial development whatsoever on public lands? They used to bitch and whine about campers.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

?Bernie Sanders won't rule out running for president again in 2020.

From beyond the grave, if necessary.

[Ken Shultz]

"The two pledged to work together, but they did not have the typical photo op with the first couples together."

I think jokes about Michelle Obama not wanting to look like a Wookee standing next to Melania are entirely inappropriate.

[GILMORE?]

Hopefull buttplug, tulpa, cytotoxic remain missing in action for the next 4 years.

*tho i'm pretty sure tulpa was lurking and spitting on election night.

[Ken Shultz]

I'm not sure why they come in the first place.

There's gotta be some kind of pathological dysfunction there, right?

Why would you?

Same thing with Tony.

He couldn't really think that he's gonna find the one thing that makes us all realize that we're wrong about not being unquestioning progressives, could he?

[GILMORE?]

I'm not sure why they come in the first place.

Mary does it because she's insane. She tried to get along here, got her feelings hurt when she was rejected, and now stalking people here gives her life purpose and meaning.

Tulpa does it because he actually thinks he wins arguments. Cyto is the same. Both think of themselves as intellectual-powerhouses, and are angry others wont acknowledged it.

PB does it because he's bored.

Tony, i have no idea.

[See Double You]

Tony is the progressive standard-bearer, putting his hands on everything, especially where they are unwanted.

[american socialist]

Boy, there's a lot of butt slapping on this comment board. For the record, I'm a libertarian and I'm appalled at the prospect of a Trump presidency and all it portends for immigrants, people who want to get an abortion, and anyone that get arrested for a crime.

[Illocust]

american socialist...socialist.....literally exact opposite of libertarian.

[american socialist]

You guys sure showed those statists by ushering in the RP. Theeeerree GRREEAT!

[paranoid android]

To whom specifically does "you guys" refer and to what specific actions does "ushering in" refer?

[american socialist]

That would refer to all these Trumpsters that show up on this website to tell us how terrible Obama is and by "ushering in" I mean voting for Republicans while calling yourself a libertarian when you really are supporting the same thing Rush Limbaugh has been saying for a hundred years now.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Much like you socked it to the system, and showed the "beauty" of centralized planning, by voting for Stein?

I'm not much on Tu Quoque arguments, but you pop up with shitty, straw-men arguments, and have the nerve to harangue us...Get the log out of your eye, first.

And, because I want some record somewhere-most regulars around here had no delusions about getting a libertarian into the WH, and few thought a vote for Trump was anything more than a "fuck you" to proggies.

[Rufus The Monocled]

You're not libertarian and never once said a single thing that backs up your claim.

[Microaggressor]

The incoming Trump administration now has a transition site organized online.

I was curious and read some of the policy sections. Overall, I see a lot more good than bad.

Good:
Repeal ACA and further deregulate health care
Repeal Dodd-Frank
Constitutional originalism (if you choose to believe it)
"Lower, simpler, fairer, and pro-growth" tax reform
Deregulation in general - "Temporary moratorium on all new regulation" (!)
School choice
Energy deregulation, reversal of "climate change" policies, and reining in the EPA

Bad:
Half a trillion in "infrastructure"
Trade restrictions (although not outright opposed to free trade; primarily acknowledges that labor regulation makes us less competitive)
VA "reform" that doesn't include the word privatize anywhere
More defense spending
Muh great wall (wonder if they're going to build it underground to block all those drug smuggler's tunnels)

No wonder right-thinking libertarians hate the guy.

[american socialist]

A bold stroke for libertarianism!

[Microaggressor]

AmSoc, can you give me an estimate on how much the earth will heat up as a result of 4 years of Trump?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Shows what you know, Microaggressor. Seattle had the warmest November 9th on record.

It's already happening.

[Microaggressor]

I still have to heat my house, though. I'm not satisfied.

[american socialist]

At the going rate about 0.06 oC. Can you tell me the great libertarian principle that prohibits one from asking ExxonMobil et.al. to clean their shit up?

[See Double You]

You presume CO2 is shit to be cleaned up, or that the clean up efforts themselves are worth the costs.

[american socialist]

So, I'm supposed to go uncompensated on my drought-stricken property in California because oil companies are allowed to profit at my expense? That's the great thing about you guys... always looking out for your neighborly plutocrat.

[See Double You]

Perhaps you should demand compensation from the real perpetrator, the California government's piss-poor water planning.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Blame the government?!? AmSock??? Holy shot, don't you know: The government can do no wrong! Where do you think he learned to move goal posts when arguing with us?

[Tornado35235gsg35423ttg3gt3g3g]

Who actually uses the oil products? For the most part it ain't Exxon

[Apatheist ?_??]

Everything in the Bad column looks fucking expensive. How are they going to pay for it?

[Jerms]

On facebook and other messageboards the theme today seems to be how peoples gay and muslim friends are afraid to leave the house. Mexican children are being bullied in school all of a sudden. Ive also seen the same picture of swastika graffiti with Trumps name next to it. They have lost it.

[C. Anacreon]

I might even understand the Mexican concern, but why the gays? Trump has gone out of his way continually in the campaign to be supportive of the community, including during his nomination acceptance speech, and held a rainbow flag up during another speech.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Holding up the rainbow flag was a signal that he was coming for them.

[GILMORE?]

Its ridiculous that they've basically become convinced of their own crazy lies.

They've insisted that the Right is nothing but racists and homophobes. Now they're terrified by their own delusions.

[Cyto]

They are projection personified. I think it must come as a package with the collectivist mindset. They are fundamentally racist in their very philosophy, and many of them are filled with racial animus. Therefore they believe the same motivations exist in others.

[Ken Shultz]

Melania may be the only first lady in history for whom moving into the White House is a step down.

She'll probably want to redecorate.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Oh she can rough it for four years.

[Illocust]

Melania is probably wondering what happened to her life. She marries a rich TV personality and somehow ends up first lady of the US instead.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa announced he will run for California's governor in 2018. That will put him in competition with former San Francisco mayor and current lieutenant governor Gavin Newsom.

Can California handle all this political diversity?

[John Titor]

So what's everyone's Christmas List of "Random Out Of Left Field Bullshit Trump Might Do"?

I'm hoping for a Snowden pardon.

[But Enough About Me]

Pardoning Snowden might cause Hillary's head to explode. Even better if Trump decides to drop the bogus extradition attempts re: Julian Assange.

Trump should do them both.

[John Titor]

Also fix your goddamn website Reason, or at least give us an update on what the hell is going on.

Pretty please.

[Butts Wagner]

Red Russian Squirrels.

[Slumbrew]

DNC Staffer Screams At Donna Brazile For Helping Elect Donald Trump.

Excellent. Let the hate flow through you.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

That is, without a doubt, the BEST thing to ever come from PuffHo.

[Pan Zagloba]

"You are part of the problem," he continued, blaming Brazile for clearing the path for Trump's victory by siding with Clinton early on. "You and your friends will die of old age and I'm going to die from climate change. You and your friends let this happen, which is going to cut 40 years off my life expectancy."

BWAHAHA, Stupid vs Evil! Go go, Stupid! Get angry!

[See Double You]

Delusional. These people terrify me. I'm so glad they won't be in power (at least for now).

[But Enough About Me]

"I can feel your anger."

/Palpatine creaming himself

[SimonD]

I think Trump is the elephant version of President Obama. He's the tabula rasa on which they can scribble whatever they want him to do.

We could actually end up pleasantly surprised. It's unlikely, but I'm certain it will be less horrifying that a Clinton II administration would have been.

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Yep this is a post i made somewhere else

Trump is basically a vulgar Obama. I think the vulgar part helped suppress his support a bit

Both relatively clean or unknown slate with actual kind of charming personalities doing the everything is terrible so let's make America great again!/hope change shtick

Hillary was basically McCain (a robot only running on im not the other guy)

[Tornado35235gsg35423ttg3gt3g3g]

Yep this is a post i made somewhere else

Trump is basically a vulgar Obama. I think the vulgar part helped suppress his support a bit

Both relatively clean or unknown slate with actual kind of charming personalities doing the everything is terrible so let's make America great again!/hope change shtick

Hillary was basically McCain (a robot only running on im not the other guy)

[gaoxiaen]

Maybe you already posted it here once and forgot.

[See Double You]

I just realized something: you know what the worst* part of a Trump victory is? Reason will go non-stop Trump coverage for at least four more years.

*OK, obviously not the worst, but still.

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Trumpalumpadumpitydump. Trumpadumpitydump.

[See Double You]

You know "Dump Trump!" will be the unofficial Democrat slogan in 2020.

[That's A Bingo!]

Didn't work in 2018, doubt it'll work in 2020.

[Riven]

I *do* assume it was only one of them. And I assume that it was Lady Obama who didn't want to meet Lady Trump.

[Mad Scientist]

All you need is a 6" lift and some knobbies.

[Enough About Palin]

I *do* assume it was only one of them. And I assume that it was Lady Obama who didn't want to meet Lady Donald Trump.

Seriously. She knows that he is gonna shit all over her husband's legacy, making the last eight years a wasted effort.