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Voters in Washington State Give Judges Power to Violate Gun Owners' Due Process

Gun control initiatives pass in Washington and California, still too close to call in Maine and Nevada.

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Voters in Washington State approved a ballot measure to let state courts strip individuals of their guns of they are determined to be an "extreme risk" to the safety of others and California voters approved a new licensing law for individuals who wish to buy ammunition for firearms.

More than 70 percent of voters in Washington had approved Measure 1491 with 64 percent reporting. The initiative gives broad power to courts to regulate who can possess firearms and draw rebukes from the ACLU for being a violation of due process because it puts the burden of proof on the accused to show why a court order should be lifted. The measure allows anyone—from family and friends to law enforcement—to request a court order removing an individual's right to own guns.

That comes on the heels of a 2014 initiative in Washington State that imposed gun control laws similar to this year's measures in Maine and Nevada.

California's initiative builds upon a state law passed in July requiring business that sell ammunition to obtain a special state license. With the passage of the initiative, individuals who want to buy ammunition will also have to obtain a state permit before doing so. By early Wednesday morning, more than 63 percent of California voters had supported the measure.

In both places, the new laws will make it harder for law-abiding gun owners to purchase firearms and ammunition, but it's hard to tell how the additional rules will prevent criminals from accessing guns on the black market.

In Nevada and Maine, initiatives to require a FBI background check before a sale or transfer of guns can take place were too close to call on Wednesday morning. Both initiatives would require gun purchases to happen through a state licensed firearms dealer. (Update: the Nevada initiative appears to have squeaked by, winning by about 10,000 votes)

One of the top contributors to the "yes" campaigns in all four states was Everytown for Gun Safety, an organization founded by then-New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg in 2006, when it was known as Mayors Against Illegal Guns. The group changed its name after the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, and now pushes for both state and federal governments to expand background checks for gun purchases.

Everytown for Gun Safety spent more than $5.2 million in Maine and over $13 million in Nevada pushing the initiative, according to campaign finance data tracked by Ballotpedia.

In California, groups in favor of Proposition 63 spent more than $4.5 million—with more than $1.1 million coming from the California Democratic Party—on the campaign, compared to less than $1 million spent by opponents.

While gun control groups like Bloomberg's have spent big bucks this year pushing these four initiatives, the National Rifle Association has largely sat out the election. That may be because the NRA believes it will be able to overturn these new laws in court.

"That may be the strategy, to beat this thing in court, rather than try to fight what seems like a quote-unquote 'common-sense measure' at the ballot box," Dave Workman, a senior editor at the Second Amendment Foundation, told NPR last week.

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  1. On a positive note, if Trump sticks to his SCOTUS nominee list, this crap should get smacked down.

    1. Perhaps. More concerning is this crap continues to get passed by voters in what used to be fairly gun friendly states (with the except of California). The exodus of Californians continues to pollute border states with their noxious politics and the gun control lobby has learned from their opponents to focus on local laws where they can turn that ratchet just one more notch or two. Pretty soon, these “common sense” regulations will be as accepted as background checks for retail firearm sales.

      1. Yep. I was a WA State resident for several years. The gun laws were pretty non-intrusive; simple process to get a CCP, no registration, no restrictions on “assault weapons.” Always thought I may end up moving back there…..probably not anymore. I can only imagine how frustrating it is to live inland now with all the progtards on the coast passing this shit.

        1. The problem is that we tolerate the progtard’s presence. Instead of welcoming them, we should tell them to turn around and GTFO when they show up. They’re nothing but a tumorous growths.

  2. The ballot question here in Maine was defeated. My vote counted!

  3. “The measure allows anyone?from family and friends to law enforcement?to request a court order removing an individual’s right to own guns.”
    So each NRA member picks out one judge’s bailiff and has him stripped of the right to be armed. Continue as each is replaced until the judges get tired of being as unprotected as the citizens.

    1. I’m sure there are exceptions carved out for government employees. There always are.

    2. I’m sure there are exceptions carved out for government employees. There always are.

      1. And squirrels.

        1. My question to the REASON staff: Why, oh why, did you allow the server squirrel to go to the Packers-Colts game on Sunday? It must have been terribly stressful for the poor thing.

        2. Yay!

      2. Then force them to explain why.

    3. This is the kind of thing antis would do, abusing the hell out of a bad law because they are Morally Justified in any action against their perception of evil.

      1. It would be the kind of thing antis would do except that it isn’t because this is in response to fighting a law curtailing individual freedom which is something antis would never do. See the distinction?

  4. What the fuck is it with progs being so willing to not only give up their own constitutional rights, but to actually ask for it? They really don’t get it, do they?

    1. They don’t understand you will never really be in control in this crazy place we call the world. They compensate by trying to regulate disorder and uncertainty away.

      Their unwashed masses actually believe that more rules will help make them matter. Except Tony, we give him a reason for waking up.

    2. Actually, they do. They are so in the tank believing that everyone sees the world exactly as they do that they can not believe they might ever need to defend themselves, thus, of course they are thrilled to give up their constitutional natural rights.

  5. Many of us in rural Kommiefornia simply won’t give the state our magazines. Then it’s ALL about jury nullification.

  6. “California’s initiative builds upon a state law passed in July requiring business that sell ammunition to obtain a special state license. With the passage of the initiative, individuals who want to buy ammunition will also have to obtain a state permit before doing so. By early Wednesday morning, more than 63 percent of California voters had supported the measure.”

    Boy, I saw this type of measure coming over a decade away. Are they really just now figuring this out?

    Oh, no, that’s right. This same ruse has been tried before, and found to be unconstitutional. I’ll say this much for California, they really are crazy enough to keep trying the same shit time after time even though it’s been decided already. I’m sure there’s some twist that makes this not the exact same law, even though it has the exact same result.

  7. RE: Voters in Washington State Give Judges Power to Violate Gun Owners’ Due Process
    Gun control initiatives pass in Washington and California, still too close to call in Maine and Nevada.

    Washington State: Land of the socialists, green party members, gun grabbers and other members of the Brain Dead Party.

    1. Every one of those group;ps should be exterminated.

  8. Awesome. Start calling in on cops. See how that works out.

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  10. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….

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  11. One of the reasons I moved out here after retiring from the AF was that WA was a gun friendly state… Since the gun hating liberals from CA started moving up here due to the cost of living and lack of water, gun rights have gone down the shitter. I guess the next move is to Alaska, I just don’t understand the mentality of some people…. If you hate or don’t want a gun, don’t buy one… leave me and my rights alone…. nothing like infringing on my rights because you’re offended that I have the right to bare arms. don’t get me started on this freaking ammo tax….

  12. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….

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