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Pirate Party May Soon Lead Iceland, Clinton Aides 'Wanted to Get Away With' Private Servers, Libertarians Sue Over Selfies: A.M. Links

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 10.26.2016 9:00 AM

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  • Iceland may soon be ruled by a radical melee of "anarchists, hackers, libertarians and Web geeks" who are calling themselves the Pirate Party.
  • Top Hillary Clinton campaign staffer Neera Tanden suggested in a now-leaked email that Clinton's aides used private email servers because "they wanted to get away with it."
  • Joe Arpaio, sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, has been charged with contempt-of-court for refusing to stop immigration patrols after being ordered by a judge to do so. "We believe that when the final chapter is written, he will be vindicated," Arpaio's lawyer told AP.
  • The Libertarian Party of Colorado's communications director has filed a lawsuit challenging the state's ban on taking ballot selfies.
  • A new study from the World Economic Forum claims that globally, woman work an average of 50 minutes more per day or 39 more days per year than men do.
  • A federal jury has reached a partial verdict in the case of brothers Ammon and Ryan Bundy and the five others who took over a public wildlife sanctuary building last January. But a note sent to the judge indicated that the jury could agree about only three of the seven defendants.
  • Maryland lawyer Patrick Moran, an assistant state's attorney assigned to Baltimore's juvenile division, has been charged with possession of child pornography, making him at least the third U.S. law-enforcement officer charged for child porn this week
  • The Washington Post calls false on the much-repeated statement that one in three women will have an abortion.
  • The Obama administration is calling for a ban on non-compete agreements.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    NO POP UPS

    1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

      I want to acknowledge that ENB did a great job today--on time, alt text, too many links but that's hardly the worst sin.

      Also, Fisty, by your own dumb rules this doesn't count as a first comment.

      1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

        Thumbs up for the alt-text.

        1. LynchPin1477   9 years ago

          Aye

        2. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

          Hooks up matey, hooks.

        3. bacon-magic   9 years ago

          Arrrrr.

        4. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

          Thumbs up your ass.

        5. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   9 years ago

          Yarr!

      2. Tonio   9 years ago

        They aren't just Fisty's rules, JATNAS, they are the traditional rules that held sway for years before your time.

        1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

          Speaking of things before JATNAS's time, someone needs to revive A Wiki Called Reason. Not me, because I'm lazy. But someone.

        2. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

          THAT HALLOWEEN POP UP OR AD OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

          As an official commenter, duly registered, I should not be molested with annoyances when I visit the internet. It was literally intended to be a safe space.

          1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

            I should not be molested with annoyances when I visit the internet.

            No, you should be molested with something more appropriate, such as a Furby, a kids meal of Beanie Babies, a Tiickle Me Elmo, or even a vintage Teddy Ruxpin.

        3. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

          "They aren't just Fisty's rules, JATNAS, they are the traditional rules that held sway for years before your time."

          Tonio, I've come to give everybody here the good news that you are no longer bound by the old law of your forebearers, but are justified by REASON alone.

          1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

            Reported as spam.

          2. Tonio   9 years ago

            [Cups armpit with palm and flaps.]

            1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

              Let em' talk dog it, don't phase me
              It might not be right if they don't hate me

          3. Brett L   9 years ago

            Drink!

          4. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

            The Thought on the Mount is a much less compelling phrase.

            1. Citizen X   9 years ago

              23) Last week, i was thinking about the meek...

      3. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

        Yeah, but by his own dumb rules, he still has the first comment down the line.

        1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

          I don't make up the rules, I just abide by them. And I did probably make up that rule.

          But it makes sense, as anyone can just quickly paste a pretyped comment and hit submit, but it adds a level of difficulty to actually read and address one of the fine links our Reason contributors reluctantly work so hard to provide us. And don't we owe them that? Isn't it incumbent upon us all to copy their lines and paste them and italicize them and make snarky comments on them without bothering to follow the links themselves? Isn't that the least we can do?

          1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

            Isn't it incumbent upon us all to copy their lines and paste them and italicize them and make snarky comments on them without bothering to follow the links themselves? Isn't that the least we can do?

            You could learn what a blockquote is.

            1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

              I know what a blockquote it. It's for quoting something not found on this page but on a linked page. THAT'S HOW THE CONTRIBUTORS DO IT, and I will follow their lead. But others seem to feel differently on the topic.

              1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

                But others seem to feel differently on the topic.

              2. bacon-magic   9 years ago

                I know what a blockquote it.

                Sure you do John.

                1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

                  You know I always put a typo in to weed out the pedants. YOU BUSTED.

                  1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

                    I thought it was just so you can make sure people are actually copy and pasting the text they quote instead of typing it out.

    2. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      Hello.

      Those Viking better not fuck it up for us. That's all we need is for Iceland to replace Somalia with the progs.

      1. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

        Vikings will always fuck up and break your heart Rufus.

        Right Tundra?

        1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   9 years ago

          I died with Teddy.

          1. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

            We will bury your heart at Wounded Knee

  2. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

    248) So here's a story of a dude in college responsible for sexual assault on dozens of women. I hope they put him away for a long time.

    But here's the thing?stories like this put the lie to the myth of rape culture. When I was a freshman in college (1993) I had to go to this class on how "no means no" and how guys need to learn what sexual assault is (as if it wasn't obvious?). I can't even imagine how much worse it is at colleges now. But every bit of actual evidence I see indicates that in fact there are only a tiny number of guys responsible for nearly all sexual violence. Think of Bill Cosby, who apparently assaulted nearly 60 women, or Jesse Matthew, who raped and killed a woman at UVA a couple years ago and after he was caught was linked to numerous other previously unsolved sexual assaults.

    Just because 100 women have been sexually assaulted doesn't mean 100 different guys did it. The problem is the few criminal men who feel free to commit sexual assault repeatedly. At best, fighting a non-existent rape culture on campus is a waste of time, at worst, it's actually making things worse by distracting from the real problems (not to mention creating an actual culture of indifference or resentment among men assumed to be potential rapists simply because of their gender).

    1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

      The question is whether people actually want to solve the problem or if they want to leave it as a perpetual grievance in order to expand their own power and authority.

      1. PBR Streetgang   9 years ago

        I'm pretty sure you know the answer

        1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

          Yeah, that wasn't a question so much as it was a statement. Of course I know the answer.

        2. PBR Streetgang   9 years ago

          Sadly, I know you knew the answer. We all knew the answer.

          1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

            Is it cake? No wait, it's usually Hitler. I'm going to say it's Cake.

            1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

              John McCrea approves.

            2. PBR Streetgang   9 years ago

              Hitler Cake. That's the answer, Hitler Cake.

              1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

                Gary Johnson knows a Jewish baker who'll have to make it...

              2. IndyEleven   9 years ago

                He is handling the money, he's serving the food, he knows about your party, he is calling you JUDEN

    2. Raven Nation   9 years ago

      how guys need to learn what sexual assault is (as if it wasn't obvious?).

      it's linked to the progressive mantra on campuses: the main reason things are not perfect is because people haven't been properly educated. Once everyone understands everything correctly, we will all act properly.

      Rousseau triumphant.

      1. Gadfly   9 years ago

        It always amuses me when I hear progressives claiming a problem with crime is a lack of education. Some problems are due to a lack of education, like problems of hygiene, but criminality is hardly ever due to a lack of education. It doesn't take an educated man to know right from wrong; that's very basic stuff. In fact, very well educated people have committed (or directed/incited) some very heinous acts, whether it be terrorism (bin Laden went to college in the west), fascism (the Germans and Japanese were renowned for their educational systems), communism (Marx and Lenin were both university educated), or common crime (the Unabomber had a PhD). Heck, the most educated President of the US (Woodrow Wilson, PhD) was the man who segregated most of the federal government, so I'd say education is definitely overrated as a means of producing moral men.

        1. Holger da Dane   9 years ago

          There's a Danish proverb to explain this: "Tyv tror hver mand stj?ler"

    3. Chinny Chin Chin   9 years ago

      .The problem is the few criminal men who feel free to commit sexual assault repeatedly.

      Just a few bad apples spoil it for the rest of us, eh?

      Now, where have I heard that before??

  3. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

    Interesting that New York Magazine author Liz Meriwether reads Sugarfree, though I find it rather shabby of her to rip off his shtick without acknowledging where she got the idea.

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      How meta of you to Sugarfree the link

      1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

        Ha ha

        non-Sugarfreed

        1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

          Holy Shit! I really do believe that Saccharin Man has been bona fide plagiarised. The style, diction, and overall content has his....essence.

          There's NO way that broad came up with that on her own....

          1. Tonio   9 years ago

            I concur with the good doctor that it's a total rip-off, but it falls far short of plagiarism. She has done a pitch perfect imitation of his style.

            Someone ought to call her out on that in the comments. She'll lose face big time for even being familiar with such libertarian arcana.

            1. Tonio   9 years ago

              Still not sure if it's plagiarism, since not a literal copying, but definitely goes beyond mere imitation. Unless Sug writes for WaPo as "Liz Meriwether."

              Ben Carson just stood there and tried to smile as she took a deep sniff of his kneecaps. "Ohhh, I want to take a ride on these kneecaps. I want to make these kneecaps my pony. Feed them a carrot. Teach them how to dressage," Hillary said in a deep, lustful voice as she rubbed the side of her face on Ben Carson's leg. Ben was confused, and he whispered to Paul Ryan, "Why would a woman want to ride a man's kneecaps? Is that a new thing women are doing?"

              She's probably counting on the obscurity of the source and thinking that nobody familiar with Sug's fiction would read her articles.

              1. SugarFree   9 years ago

                She's a bit long-winded for my taste. She needs to learn the short, sharp shock.

                1. Lord Rollingpin   9 years ago

                  Offer her some pointers in the comments, if you do, please let us know when you do it.

                  1. SugarFree   9 years ago

                    I tried to register and it wouldn't let me. Maybe I'm already on some sort of enemies list.

              2. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

                Shoot the kneecaps and get over it already.

                1. writ large   9 years ago

                  She has it coming. So did Nancy Kerrigan

      2. Tonio   9 years ago

        He 86'd the link? 😛

        1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

          What a "Splenda"d retort! Hi, Tonio!

          1. Tonio   9 years ago

            Hi, Doc.

    2. Tonio   9 years ago

      WTF? WaPo has apparently lost it...

    3. SugarFree   9 years ago

      I have infected her mind. Next she will begin to dream in WARTYVISION.

      1. Citizen X   9 years ago

        So she will see the world solely in terms of the orifices it presents to her?

      2. WTF   9 years ago

        That way leads only to madness...

      3. bacon-magic   9 years ago

        She will be wanting the Doomcock.

        1. SugarFree   9 years ago

          All obligate carnivores do.

    4. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

      Literally all that's missing is the Lovecraftian imagery...

      1. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

        I mean even then there's the demon tail stuff, but the few instances of demonic imagery just aren't... eldritch enough.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Iceland may soon be ruled by a radical melee of "anarchists, hackers, libertarians and Web geeks" who are calling themselves the Pirate Party.

    Free State Island Project

    1. Tonio   9 years ago

      ^Official First (non-binding, traditional rules)

      1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

        UNTRUE. They are very binding. More binding than a speedsuit left in the dryer too long.

        1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

          Like, "Binders Full of Women," binding? Ancient foot binding? Bust binding?

    2. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

      Didn't Jimmy Carter speak of a national melees back in the 70's?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

        Oh, you.

        1. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

          I took your scolding to heart a few days back. I think I'm getting better.

      2. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

        +1 killer rabbit

  5. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    The Libertarian Party of Colorado's communications director has filed a lawsuit challenging the state's ban on taking ballot selfies.

    See, Hillary? This is how you appeal to millennials.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    The Obama administration is calling for a ban on non-compete agreements.

    Suddenly competition is good?

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      No, they just want to job hop themselves.

    2. Tonio   9 years ago

      Pro dog-eat-dog act?

    3. spqr2008   9 years ago

      They're scared that some anti establishment politicians would adopt Glenn Reynold's (of Instapundit fame) anti-Revolving Door Tax.

    4. Free Society   9 years ago

      Isn't there something in the constitution about telling the government to suck your dick when it comes to interference in private contracts? I know it's overridden by the FYTW clause, but still.

    5. DenverJ   9 years ago

      That unemployment rate isn't going to keep itself high.

      1. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

        Disagree.

      2. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

        Disagree.

    6. Griffin3   9 years ago

      From the article:

      Nearly every state allows non-compete agreements

      What states already ban non-compete agreements, and are these states utopias of employment and productivity?

      BeckReedRiden Survey says: CA, ND, OK. You are full of crap, Obama administration.

    7. Robert   9 years ago

      The article was vexingly devoid of explanatory details for the examples. A teacher who wasn't allowed to sell pet food? What kind of school would think of that as competition?

  7. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    Top Hillary Clinton campaign staffer Neera Tanden suggested in a now-leaked email that Clinton's aides used private email servers because "they wanted to get away with it."

    Just flexing

    1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

      Do you even felony, bro?

      1. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

        3x daily!

    2. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

      Ok, so REASON has learned progtard dishonest reporting.

      " that Clinton's aides used private email servers because "they wanted to get away with it.""

      This is not the facts. The shocking email in question is entirely about Hillary Clinton using a private email server. The aids only come into this story because someone questions why "they" (The Clinton camp including the aids) didn't release the info 18 months previously.

      But REASON writes the little headline above, making it look entirely like an "aid" faux pas and hoping no one RTFA to see this is all about covering up Hillary's illegal actions.

      Shame on you REASON.

      1. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

        Sorry, "aides".

        1. John DeWitt   9 years ago

          Who has aids?

        2. John DeWitt   9 years ago

          Who has aids?

          1. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

            Everybody?

    3. Calidissident   9 years ago

      Clearly there was no intent

  8. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    ...making him at least the third U.S. law-enforcement officer charged for child porn this week

    So suddenly law enforcement can't do research?

    1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

      "...making him at least the third U.S. law-enforcement officer charged for child porn this week"

      Wasn't there an article here just yesterday about how a majority of people charged with owning or viewing child porn are developmentally disabled? How big is the overlap here?

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        *studio audience applause*

      2. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        *studio audience applause*

        1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

          Wait for the encore.

  9. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

    Very few things in this world could make me happier than Joe Arpaio ending up in jail.

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      I already thought of several on just the "Politician goes to jail for what they've done" front.

      Maybe it's the distance between me and Arizona.

      1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        Coastal elitists like you will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

        1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

          Coastal elistist because I'd be made happier if Andy Cuomo went to jail than I'd be if Joe Arpaio went to jail?

    2. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

      I would rather see Joe Arpaio in a heated gun battle with federal agents...and coming out on top.

    3. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

      I would be happier if he DIAF.

  10. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    Iceland may soon be ruled by a radical melee of "anarchists, hackers, libertarians and Web geeks" who are calling themselves the Pirate Party.

    I'll only vote if they also make quirky, ethereal indie music.

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      Since every Icelander is already in at least two bands, this is a given.

      1. MikeT1986   9 years ago

        Being a Nordic country I'm forseeing a lot of metal.

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Probably, but Icelandic bands really are better known for quirky and ethereal.

          1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

            OMG, global warming melted the whole island!

            1. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

              And my guitar.

          2. B.P.   9 years ago

            Sigur Ros is the worst goddamned band ever.

            1. Citizen X   9 years ago

              You're more of a Blink 182 guy, huh?

    2. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

      I'll be interested when Hopeland becomes the next Somalia.

    3. straffinrun   9 years ago

      Bjork on the Supreme Court.

      1. PBR Streetgang   9 years ago

        She'd do well. She understands Human Behavior

        1. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

          Well done.

    4. thom   9 years ago

      I'll only vote if they also make quirky, ethereal indie music.

      Seconded. I saw Sigur Ros a few weeks ago and they were awesome.

  11. Scott Foval, Jr.   9 years ago

    Top Hillary Clinton campaign staffer Neera Tanden suggested in a now-leaked email that Clinton's aides used private email servers because "they wanted to get away with it."

    Typically, news is stuff we didn't already know.

    1. Tonio   9 years ago

      This will be news to the rest of the nation, though. And they will be shocked, shocked I tell you...

      1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

        *goes into business with Tonio selling, "SHOCKED FACES!"*

        1. Lord Rollingpin   9 years ago

          Great, now the clown panic is going to be replaced by a shocked face panic.

          1. Holger da Dane   9 years ago

            Combine the two?

  12. Citizen X   9 years ago

    Iceland may soon be ruled by a radical melee of "anarchists, hackers, libertarians and Web geeks" who are calling themselves the Pirate Party.

    Say goodbye to your roads, Icelanders!

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      This is a place where they already have trouble building roads because of Elf habitats.

      And the volcanos can wipe out the roads without help from the Pirate Party.

      1. Citizen X   9 years ago

        So you're saying it's a natural Libertopia?

        1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

          Wait... people believe in Elves in Libertopia?

          1. Scott Foval, Jr.   9 years ago

            European libertarians have elves. They don't have all the orphans we do here.

            1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

              Gnomes, actually. Even in UKR, lawn gnomes are still popular (even Fortress Maximus has one).

              1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

                https://youtu.be/-h10Nn84Sgs?t=1m28s

            2. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

              Pretty sure you're thinking New Zealand. Europeans have kobolds.

              1. Free Society   9 years ago

                No, New Zealand elves prefer to be called "Orcs". The Dutch have knomes, the scandos have trolls, the Irish have leprechauns, and the Germans have little goat people whose name escapes me.

                1. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

                  Nazis.

                2. Holger da Dane   9 years ago

                  You're wrong, Scandinavian trolls are the worst workers ever, very hard to keep in line.

                  We use nisser where it really counts. They literally work for porridge.

            3. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

              Santa Claus confirmed libertarian.

          2. Tonio   9 years ago

            No worse than the superstitious beliefs of many of the religious.

            1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

              But less harmful than the Warmists.

          3. SugarFree   9 years ago

            You can believe in elves if you want to
            You can feel your elves' behinds

            1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

              *narrows gaze*

        2. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

          Maybe that's what California needs--regular volcano eruptions to clear away some of the nonsense.

          1. Stormy Dragon   9 years ago

            That hasn't helped Hawaii

            1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

              Pele has poor aim.

    2. Lord Rollingpin   9 years ago

      Do Icelanders have roads, I thought they rode everywhere on their eight legged horses.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Joe Arpaio, sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, has been charged with contempt-of-court for refusing to stop immigration patrols after being ordered by a judge to do so.

    Joe is the law.

    1. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

      Dredd is the law

      1. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

        WELL I SCREWED THAT UP

        1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

          Yes.

        2. Tonio   9 years ago

          It's called Ken Shultzing the link, now.

          1. Lord Rollingpin   9 years ago

            Does tradition mean nothing to you!

      2. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

        Full name is Judge Joe Dredd. Either way checks out.

  14. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    But a note sent to the judge indicated that the jury could agree about only three of the seven defendants.

    Jury or not jury, that is the question.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Top Hillary Clinton campaign staffer Neera Tanden suggested in a now-leaked email that Clinton's aides used private email servers because "they wanted to get away with it."

    WHAT. THE FUCK. DIFFERENCE. DOES. IT. MAKE? At this point.

    1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

      None whatsoever. Idiot Trump voters saw to that.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

        I don't disagree.

  16. Citizen X   9 years ago

    one in three women will have an abortion

    WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT.

    1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

      Sounds like one of the better Star Trek episodes.

      "All named citizens report to the abortion booth!"

  17. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    Word Term of the Day: Respectability Politics

    I thought I could write it without partaking in respectability politics, a term used to describe groups policing their own people. I thought I could help people find a balance between fighting for others and fighting for themselves.

    I am not an "angry person." I am a passionate person who gets angry at the constant mistreatment I receive ? not only by bigots, but by people who say they're my friends even though they constantly remind me to "calm down" because my anger pushes others away.

    And to think, I almost wrote an article that would've justified this attitude. I almost gave people even more reasons to condescendingly misuse MLK quotes on people like me at the first sign of someone speaking out against injustices.

    Blaming oppressed people's internal anger for their own unhappiness is not only condescending and ignorant, it is a form of victim-blaming. Whenever someone says "forget the haters," they're implying that I don't already do this on a regular basis. I let so many microaggressions slide, but I can only take so much.

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      link

      1. Citizen X   9 years ago

        No.

        1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

          Give in to the Derp Side

      2. Scott Foval, Jr.   9 years ago

        WHAT DO YOU MEAN LINK!!? AS IN LINK IN A CHAIN!!?? THE CHAIN WHITES WILL ENSLAVE ME WITH!!??

    2. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

      Should I be stewing over microagressions because when I brought in some buckeyes leftover from my Pats-Bengals tailgate last week a woman in my group told me to "Thank [girlfriend's name] for me"?

      1. Citizen X   9 years ago

        Of course.

        1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

          Brb, busy crying about how men can make desserts too.

          1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

            I've been looking at baklava recipies, and there's an annoying disconnect. One set has each filo layer individually buttered, the other set says not to do that.

            What's the end effect of the difference between the two approaches?

            1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

              I don't know, I haven't made any middle eastern stuff.

              I would guess that the first one would be more buttery.

            2. SugarFree   9 years ago

              Buttering each makes for a flaker, lighter end product, but it is a huge pain. I butter every third or fourth layer depending on mood and general butter annoyance level.

              I also make three or four layers of filling rather than one big one in the middle.

              1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

                I think I'll go with the less hassle option, see how that turns out. I need to see if I have a good pan for this.

            3. The Fusionist   9 years ago

              "I've been looking at baklava recipies, and there's an annoying disconnect. One set has each filo layer individually buttered, the other set says not to do that."

              Schrodinger was a Greek chef?

              1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

                The one recipie was from wikibooks cookbook (with butter) the other was from a russian (without individual butterings).

                I figure it's regional variations.

      2. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        It's more of a braise than a stew.

    3. Tonio   9 years ago

      Because those oppressed people lack agency and are unable to control their emotions or think logically? No denial of agency there...

      1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        In a more civilized age we called these people "attention whores."

  18. Tonio   9 years ago

    So, the progs' latest salvo against the tobacco industry - they have noticed that, statistically, smokers earn 20% less than nonsmokers, and, being progs, have decided that this is victimization of smokers by teh eeeeeevul tobacco industry. They haven't said what, exactly, they want to do about this but we all know it involves taking money from someone and giving it to someone else. What we do know is that individual smokers will never see a cent of that money, but rather the money will be taken by government to ostensibly fund healthcare and stop-smoking programs and to pay for even more studies, litigation and prosecution.

    1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

      The obvious solution is tying middle-class tax entitlements to taking up the smoking habit. Maybe everyone who starts a 401K at their company should get a free case of Marlboros in the mail.

    2. Jordan   9 years ago

      Has anyone pointed out to them that the government makes more off a pack of smokes than the tobacco companies do? Has anyone pointed out to them that the government chokes people to death when they deprive of it of that sweet tax money?

      1. Tonio   9 years ago

        Damn, Jordan, that last sentence is brilliant.

        1. writ large   9 years ago

          Get a room

      2. thom   9 years ago

        Poor people are more likely to smoke. What a shock. Many "progressives" view poor people as an underclass of service workers who exist to (a) be controlled; and (b) finance liberal arts degrees for their betters. Some things never change.

    3. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

      This seems like (based on their reactions to similar stats for different groups) something they should be demanding requires making smokers a protected class.

    4. Raven Nation   9 years ago

      but we all know it involves taking money from someone, siphoning most of it off for themselves and their buddies and giving it the crumbs to someone else.

      FIFY

    5. Jerryskids   9 years ago

      I'm waiting to see what the VW settlement entails. "Up to" 10b for repairs and reparations to VW owners, 2b in mandated spending on cleaner vehicles by VW - and 2.7b for a trust fund to finance "green initiative" shit. Who's going to oversee that slush fund and whose pockets will that money wind up in? Besides Al Gore's, I mean.

      1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

        How much of the green initiative money will be sent to Democrat friendly NPC's like they did with the bank settlements?

    6. Zeb   9 years ago

      Poorer people are more likely to smoke. I think we've known this for a while.

      1. Tonio   9 years ago

        "Most vulnerable."

    7. When will you report on Carl?   9 years ago

      I hate all of those EDM-infused anti-smoking commercials, but I hate that EDM-infused anti-smoking commercial by far the most. It's chilling how little issue they have parading such a blatant fallacy.

  19. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    A new study from the World Economic Forum claims that globally, woman work an average of 50 minutes more per day or 39 more days per year than men do.

    That's nice.

    WHERE'S MY BREAKFAST?

    1. straffinrun   9 years ago

      Bitching counts as work?

      1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

        Speaking of that, for the married men who post on this here board, exactly WHEN, on average, do wives suddenly acquire the, "Wifey Scowl Stance with Folded Arms and Tapping Foot with One Hip Slightly Leaned?" We're coming up to four years of marriage soon, and she has recently acquired this stance.

        Am I about right on schedule?

        1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

          It took 4 years? She's a keeper.

          1. straffinrun   9 years ago

            This!

        2. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

          Did you laugh at her and turn your back? I hear that works well.

          1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

            She is a surgeon also (Urology/OBGYN); I have to sleep sometime, and I don't want to risk Bobbittisation. She also has a remarkably accurate borshh pan throwing arm. So, no.

            1. SugarFree   9 years ago

              Start lightly smothering her with a pillow every night. It doesn't really hurt her, but it makes you feel better and establishes dominance.

              1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

                Is this one of those abstract euphemisms for, ahem, marital bliss? If there's one area where I do dominate... *grins*

                1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

                  I'm starting to think living with a couple with a child is killing whatever desire I have for a relationship. Their bickering and quibbles and occasional rows and the 10-month-old and the kid clutter have me really starting to value being a bachelor.

        3. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Damn, dude. I think the previous record is halfway through the wedding ceremony.

        4. Aloysious   9 years ago

          I get that, and I'm not even married.

        5. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

          In my case it was acquired about 4 weeks prior to her getting served.

        6. Free Society   9 years ago

          My wife acquired it like two weeks into our marriage. It's so hot.

        7. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

          Four years to start or four years for you to notice, Doc?

          1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

            Yes.

        8. Chipwooder   9 years ago

          After 13 years, this has not happened. I just get the death glare.

        9. tarran   9 years ago

          Hell, doc!

          I was getting that before I was even married. Ironically, about spending time on Hit and Run. 😀

          It helps that I have a teenage boy. He tends to get her into that pose well before I do and consequently takes the hit.

    2. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

      In the poorer nations I've lived in, women crush it. They typically work hard as hell, and also typically the men are lazy, gambling fucks who mooch off the labor of the women in their life.

      So when you factor that into the "global average", I don't doubt those stats. However, in First World land, I'd be surprised if the numbers hold up.

      1. PurityDiluting   9 years ago

        excellent point

      2. spqr2008   9 years ago

        See the post famine Irish.... who didn't migrate to the U.S.

      3. Gadfly   9 years ago

        They don't, at least if you are only counting professional work (unpaid work, such as housework, may tip the scales). According to BLS date, men work on average an extra 48 min/day, which works out to 25 extra days a year. This accounts for a large part of the wage gap (the average woman works 90% as long as the average man, so that accounts for a great part of the reason why said average woman makes 78% of the pay as the average man).

  20. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Beauty Queen Arna ?r J?nsd?ttir Lands Deal With Nike After Body-Shaming Incident

    Just a few days ago, Icelandic beauty queen Arna ?r J?nsd?ttir was prepping for the Miss Grand International competition in Las Vegas. After all, she did take the title of Miss Iceland 2015, so it's not like J?nsd?ttir is new to the pageant circuit. But to her surprise, Thai TV presenter Nawat Itsaragrisil, the owner of Vegas beauty competition, ordered the 20 year old to "lose weight" if she wanted to compete?and succeed. Specifically, the Daily Beast reports that J?nsd?ttir says she received a message: "Stop eating breakfast, eat just salad for lunch and drink water every evening until the contest. [The owner] is telling you this because he likes you and wants you to do well in this contest."

    Unbelievable, right? There are enough pressures on women, let alone beauty-pageant queens, to look their "best,"?whatever that may mean?at any given time. But thankfully, J?nsd?ttir took the high road: Not only did she quit the competition, but she spoke out against the body-shaming tactics used by its founders, too.

    1. Zeb   9 years ago

      If that picture shows what she looked like when they told her to lose weight, then I'd say she was right to tell them to get lost ("boo-hoo" silliness for the poor oppressed beauty queens aside).

    2. Idle Hands   9 years ago

      Hello Miss Piggy.

    3. CPRM   9 years ago

      Coach: If you want to transition from defensive end to linebacker, I'm going to need you to drop some weight.

      DE: Stop body shaming me coach!

    4. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

      MMA fighters and boxers have weight goals and get the shit pummeled out of them. In a looser sense, so do football players. Is anyone suggesting these poor cretins are victims of some perverse normative standard for holding to an impossible, debilitating job requirement?

    5. SugarFree   9 years ago

      No straight man is complaining about that lady's body.

      1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        My SIL with the perma-baby-bump would say she's anorexic.

    6. writ large   9 years ago

      "Allure", huh?

      *snickers*

  21. Domestic Dissident   9 years ago

    Given that it's Iceland, shouldn't it be a Viking Raiding Party and not a Pirate Party?

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      Shouldn't you be practicing tying your shoes? You'll get it right one day, buddy.

      1. Domestic Dissident   9 years ago

        Shouldn't you and Crusty Juggler be exchanging bodily fluids?

        1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

          Mike! Do you want in on our semen-sharing mailing list? I have a fresh vial with your name on it. Let me know, bud.

          1. MikeT1986   9 years ago

            Only a vial? Rip off, on my list I give you a fresh quart container.

        2. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Thanks for the nonsensical rejoinder! Shine on, you crazy diamond.

          1. SugarFree   9 years ago

            That wasn't nonsensical. If you don't agree with Mikey you are a faggot Muslim commie. This is just science.

            1. Citizen X   9 years ago

              Mikey thinks acknowledging that Barack Obama is the president of the United States is a plea to be allowed to orally service him. Mikey operates on another plane entirely.

      2. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

        Do you know what his shoes smell like? Tying those vomit-ridddled stank-havens is a not an easy task.

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Yeah, but he should be used to the smell by now. Anyway, they're hardly the stankiest thing about him since his mom stopped helping him take baths.

          1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

            In Mike's defense, he is a hyper-masculine, uncreative racist, and those types do not engage in lady-fag bath times.

            1. Citizen X   9 years ago

              You're saying he maintains that manly musk as a warning to interlopers?

              1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

                He is like Pigpen, but without the friends, likeability, and dance moves.

        2. writ large   9 years ago

          Trigger Warning DAMMIT

          1. Citizen X   9 years ago

            The username "Crusty Juggler" wasn't warning enough?

  22. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

    Hey everyone, I feel a little weird asking again, but I'm going to be running the New Orleans Half Marathon again this year (in early February). This time my sister is joining me and we're trying to raise about twice the money I raised last year for the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation of America (long time commenters may remember that I've had UC for about 15 years, including years of medication and 2 surgeries). If you're willing to make a donation, our fundraising page is here and I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks again to everyone who donated last year. You guys were very generous!

    I'm going to shoot for under 2 hours this year.

    1. straffinrun   9 years ago

      I'll check it out. Good luck.

      1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

        Thanks!

    2. Get To Da Chippah   9 years ago

      Bookmarked for later donation. Good luck!

    3. DOOMco   9 years ago

      Will do, AD. Good luck man

  23. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Maryland lawyer Patrick Moran, an assistant state's attorney assigned to Baltimore's juvenile division, has been charged with possession of child pornography, making him at least the third U.S. law-enforcement officer charged for child porn this week

    They were just doing research for their novels!

  24. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    DU remains disturbingly genuflectory

    1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

      Love that they had to slam the one person who dared to say he didn't like the painting.

    2. Tonio   9 years ago

      "Genuflectory." Eddie has a semi.

    3. Free Society   9 years ago

      Why does Michelle Obama appropriate non-African hair styles? She should only be allowed to have an unkempt afro or cornrows. Shaved bald would also be acceptable, lip plates and neck stretchers optional.

    4. Holger da Dane   9 years ago

      Nothing is uglier than a GIF without dithering.

  25. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    I am not an "angry person." I am a passionate person who gets angry at the constant mistreatment I receive ? not only by bigots, but by people who say they're my friends even though they constantly remind me to "calm down" because my anger pushes others away.

    "I'm not fat. I'm big-boned. Stop telling me how fat I am!"

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      "I'm not fat. I'm big-boned. Stop telling me how fat I am!"

      Speaking as someone who does have a large skeleton - being big boned does not make you look fat. Being fat makes you look fat (Being a fat bastard as well has provided this information firsthand).

      1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        I kinda had in mind for you a build something like Madame Defarge, scowl included.

    2. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

      Wait, which link is this a response to?

      1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        Lee Genes' comment above, not a link.

        Brooksy doesn't do replies.

    3. Brett L   9 years ago

      I am not a drunk person. I just choose to deal with all of the constant mistreatment I receive by drinking -- not only by bigots, but by people who say they're my friends even though they constantly remind me to "drink less" because my antics while drunk push others away.

  26. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Harvard men's soccer team wrote obscene 'scouting reports' on the women's team and speculated 'on their favorite sexual positions'

    The nine-page document also assigned each woman a hypothetical sexual position, The Crimson reports.

    Of one woman, the report states: 'She seems relatively simple and probably inexperienced sexually, so I decided missionary would be her preferred position.'

    It was shared between members of the Harvard 2012 men's soccer team, and the student newspaper observed that it appears to be a yearly tradition.

    Observations were made about each player's appearance, and they were given ratings.

    The start of the document, it was reported, stated that some of the previous year's report had been 'wrong', but said that the view that one player was 'both the hottest and the most STD ridden was confirmed'.

    Until recently the report was publicly available and searchable on Google Groups

    Not our best and brightest!

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      Not our best and brightest!

      No one attending Harvard is either our best or brightest. It's like a rubbish heap for the useless whelps of the landed gentry.

      1. tsk tsk   9 years ago

        Shoulda gone to RIT.

    2. Idle Hands   9 years ago

      No pics of the female soccer team? the Daily Mail is slipp'n.

    3. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

      "Havard Men's soccer team...."

      I should care, why?

      1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        There's at least one future Chief Justice there? (they need a bigger recruitment pool for SCOTUS)

      2. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

        Because it's Harvard's 2012 soccer team. Duh doi.

    4. Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos   9 years ago

      Considering half the women's team are probably lesbians, this was sort of a futile exercise to begin with.

      1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        Considering the dickless dweebs peopling the Harvard men's soccer team, all sexual positions are a futile exercise.

    5. The Fusionist   9 years ago

      "Until recently the report was publicly available and searchable on Google Groups"

      This sounds like an actual Bad Thing.

      There's so many pseudo-outrages out there, especially where universities are concerned, but this counts as truly ungentlemanly behavior.

    6. Brett L   9 years ago

      Young healthy men observe young healthy women, speculate on what sex would be like. Film at 11. Oh wait, this is not news.

  27. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    statistically, smokers earn 20% less than nonsmokers

    Fucking causation- how does it work?

    1. Glide   9 years ago

      No kidding. I saw that shit a week or so ago and I couldn't believe that was the narrative they were going with.

      There are five year olds out there who could debunk this logic.

  28. Ken Shultz   9 years ago

    "The Obama administration is calling for a ban on non-compete agreements."

    Barack Obama stubbornly insists on remaining the stoopidest and loudest person on the planet--forever.

    1. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

      Permission to use this, to ask, I would like.

  29. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    At first I was afraid something had happened to Crusty...

    Semi-naked man found dead on Spanish airport bench with deli meat on his buttocks, genitals in tuna can
    frisk

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      You don't have to worry. Headline only says SEMI-naked.

      1. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        Is wearing a tuna can considered semi-clothed? And, more importantly, was the guy sticking his dick in a can with a picture of a mermaid on it or a can with a picture of Charlie on it?

    2. writ large   9 years ago

      Taking what he knows'll be his final few breaths, he's thinking fuck I'm gonna be found like THIS?

  30. straffinrun   9 years ago

    WTH? Did Trump die or something?

  31. Atanarjuat   9 years ago

    170 years from now, women will earn as much as men

    That's how long it will take to achieve economic parity between the sexes, according to the World Economic Forum's Global Gender Gap Report, an annual study made public Tuesday that measures the relative gaps between women and men in education, health, economic opportunity and political power in 144 countries.

    The United States failed to crack the top 25, ranking a dismal 45th place, a 17-spot slide from last year.

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      Is that when they predict we'll all be dead broke subsistence farmers again?

      1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

        It's when teachers and social workers will be replaced by robots.

      2. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

        That's when we'll all be trannies.

      3. Bra Ket   9 years ago

        It's when the birth rate hits zero. Humanity becomes extinct soon thereafter.

    2. straffinrun   9 years ago

      It's gonna take more than 170 years to breed men who'll eat out ancient hooch for a BMW.

    3. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      Gap reports.

      I've come to truly loathe them.

  32. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

    Farrakhan on Hillary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu41CPQw0hg

    Any winners here?

    1. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      By the way, I'd have no problem kicking that guy out of my house. With an extra little kick in the bum. 'Khaddafy was my friend...' Get your sorry ass out of this house you fuck!

      1. Free Society   9 years ago

        After the events of 2015 and 2016 unfolded, I think everyone north of Malta with a brain realized that Gaddafi was their friend.

  33. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

    From the surprising "women work more than men" article:

    Although men do 34% more paid work than women, women still spend more of their time on unpaid work such as housework, childcare and care for older people.

    There we go.

    1. Get To Da Chippah   9 years ago

      When I visit my parents, my mother she goes on about how much work it is to do laundry for her and my father. You'd think she was scrubbing everything on a washboard out in a creek instead of dumping clothes and detergent into a machine and then walking away.

      1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

        To be fair to her, folding laundry is the worst. I'd rather spend 2 hours doing yard work than 20 minutes folding pants.

        1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

          I've got it down to hanging my pants and button-downs. Everything else goes in the basket till I need it.

        2. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

          Holy shit. I can fold an entire load of laundry in 5 minutes.

          1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

            We have a winner of the "Worst Humble-Brag of 2016" award.

            1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

              Indeed. It's like none of you losers ever heard of the dry cleaners and employing babushkas to wash the unmentionables in the nearby stream singing a traditional Slavic spiritual. What the hell kind of Top Hat wearing, spatz toting, monocle polishers actually *do* laundry? You Third Worlders make me sick...

              1. Brett L   9 years ago

                I'm afraid Florida Woman will assert herself and literally try to underpants gnome my unmentionables for drugs.

        3. DaveSs   9 years ago

          We just hang everything up rather than fold. When its hanging in a closet you can easily see everything ya got.

          Socks and undergarments get sorted into two piles and tossed into a drawer.

          Big time saver, even if laundry is a job you do while watching TV so the time shouldn't count.

          1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

            I've only got room in the closet for hanging my shirts. I still need to fold the rest. It's certainly better than it used to be, but I still find putting them on the hanger annoying.

            1. DaveSs   9 years ago

              I suppose it helps that I work from home and don't need a bunch of professional looking clothes.

    2. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

      So women suck at streamlining their workloads.

      1. mad.casual   9 years ago

        With single women sucking more actively and passionately amiright?

    3. lafe.long   9 years ago

      women still spend more of their time on unpaid work such as housework, childcare and care for older people.

      "Anything you can do in your pajamas is not work"
      -Doug Stanhope

      1. Brett L   9 years ago

        Please don't tell my boss.

    4. mad.casual   9 years ago

      Although men do 34% more paid work than women, women still spend more of their time on unpaid work such as housework, childcare and care for older people.

      What about constantly stopping to look at maps you don't understand? Does that count as work? If I take whatever amount of time it takes to pull the comb through my hair (2 min.?) in the morning and my wife takes 45 min. to do her hair for work does that count?

  34. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    The Free Republic Trumpalos continue to live up to their reputation as the best and brightest

    Trump supporters have stepped up their attacks against Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, who they think has not been supportive of the reality TV star.

    Some Trump fans on the far-right website Free Republic accused Ryan of being a "secret Muslim."

    "I think Ryan always had an alternative motive for not getting behind Mr. Trump," said a poster called Buildthewall88. "Could he be a secret Muslim, like Obama? He wore a beard at one time, and you know Muslims wear beards. Was he trying to send a message to his backers in the Muslim world?"

    1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

      That has to be trolling. Has to be.

      1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

        Probably, still funny

      2. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        Have you seen Paul Ryan's birth certificate? You think it's just a coincidence that "Paul Davis Ryan" is an anagram for "Vandal Up, Syria"? We're on to you, you sneaky Muslim scum.

      3. Michael   9 years ago

        ...said a poster called Buildthewall88...

        Yeah, that's some heavy duty trolling right there.

    2. Tonio   9 years ago

      You know what other religious group wears beards?

      1. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        The Temple of Antinous?

        1. Tonio   9 years ago

          Apparently that is an actual thing in Hollywood. Wow. Didn't know.

      2. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        Red pillers?

      3. SugarFree   9 years ago

        Lesbians?

        1. Lord Rollingpin   9 years ago

          And we have a winner.

          1. writ large   9 years ago

            Seconded

      4. The Fusionist   9 years ago

        I'm tired of all these Sikh jokes.

        1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

          Plus, it's supposed to be a question to which a possible answer is "Hitler."

  35. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    A new study from the World Economic Forum claims that globally, woman work an average of 50 minutes more per day or 39 more days per year than men do.

    Everyone spends the same amount of time bringing home the bacon, but only one of them takes a whole extra unnecessary 45 minutes frying it up in a pan.

    1. Zeb   9 years ago

      I like how time is somehow the only meaningful measure of the value of work.

      1. Free Society   9 years ago

        And we do housework and chores *for ourselves*. No one owes me a damn thing because I do all the cooking in my household, I do it because my wife's cooking is terrible and I worked as a chef for almost ten years. When I was a chef, I was cooking for other people, and they owed me money for it, that's how it works.

  36. Brian   9 years ago

    Duh, it's 1 in 3 women getting raped, or getting abortions.

    This is known.

  37. Ken Shultz   9 years ago

    There are 300,000+ people living in all of Iceland.

    We shouldn't be surprised by anything that can happen in a nation of 300,000 people.

    Always remember that, when you hear people talk about how we should do things like the way they do things in Iceland.

    In the U.S., we have concerts that are larger than Iceland.

    1. Free Society   9 years ago

      Notwithstanding the population difference, I do think we'd be better off toiling under the tyrannical boot of a pirate party as opposed to what we have at present.

    2. Citizen X   9 years ago

      Some Icelandic college students invented an app that lets you know if the person you're trying to pick up in a bar is related to you, because that's actually something you need to be able to determine on the fly in Iceland.

      1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

        More of an app for figuring out whether you need to wear protection, really.

      2. The Fusionist   9 years ago

        "Oh, hi, Aunt Brunhilde."

      3. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        Seems like you could make some money selling that app in Alabama. I suspect the Icelandic version isn't sold as a way to pick up chicks, though.

        1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

          Iceland has extensive geneological records that can be accessed, thus making the app even possible (and the fact that they're all cousins to one degree or another contributes to the need). The records required aren't available to the same extent and accuracy in alabama.

          1. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

            The records required aren't available to the same extent and accuracy in alabama.

            Kinda like their dental records.

      4. Brett L   9 years ago

        A lot of that is that they only have matry/patrynymics. It would be like if everyone had the last name Johnson, Smith, White, Brown, Fletcher, and Thomas, and there were about ten popular first names.

        Also, I'll retell the story of the Icelandic guy I met one night whose wife outted him for weeping with joy the first time he was in an American liquor store. I guess the liquor tax is about 5x the cost of the liquor, so when he saw a handle of vodka for $30, he wept. I think that would have to change before they could be considered an anarcho-libertarian paradise.

        1. Zeb   9 years ago

          They do have a fine tradition of moonshining, though. And apparently drink quite a lot despite the taxes. I think they also have pretty strict drug laws.

      5. Ken Shultz   9 years ago

        "Some Icelandic college students invented an app that lets you know if the person you're trying to pick up in a bar is related to you, because that's actually something you need to be able to determine on the fly in Iceland."

        It's more complicated there because of the way last name's work, too.

        You don't inherit a last name from your great grandfather. They still do it like the Vikings.

        Lief Ericson's last name was that because his father was named "Eric".

        Lief Ericson's children's last name would have been "Liefson".

        Bjork's last names is "[someone's] daughter."

        You could meet your own grandfather's grandchildren and never know it--because they'll have a completely different last name.

        1. Ken Shultz   9 years ago

          "Bj?rk Gu?mundsd?ttir"

          Her father must have been named "Gudmund".

          She couldn't know her cousin just by his name.

  38. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

    Mercedes is making a truck:

    Currently, Mercedes says it plans to sell the X-Class in Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Germany, Great Britain, and South Africa. They won't have to wait long to get it, either. Production is currently slated to begin in late 2017.

    When asked for comment on whether it will come to the U.S., Mercedes-Benz USA said "the Mercedes-Benz pickup shown on October 25, 2016 is a concept. While a pickup is under consideration for the US market at some point, no timeline is available for a decision to be made."

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      You know who else like Mercedes' trucks?

      1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

        The Kardashians?

      2. Get To Da Chippah   9 years ago

        Janis Joplin?

      3. Tonio   9 years ago

        NATO?

      4. writ large   9 years ago

        Siegfried Fischbacher?

    2. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      Well they've been making larger trucks than that for probably a century, so a pickup isn't outside their capabilities.

      1. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

        True, just seems to be a bit of a disconnect between luxury autos and trucks. But I suppose there are plenty of people who spend $70k on a truck and never tow, haul, or go off-road with it.

        1. IndyEleven   9 years ago

          I dunno. I live in a truck-intensive part of the country and have only ever seen 2 Lincoln Blackwoods. Personally I'd like something with more visible Unimog ancestry than the Toyota-looking concept drawings.

          1. Brett L   9 years ago

            Why would you buy that when the F-150 King Ranch is so nice?

          2. R C Dean   9 years ago

            Same here. C'mon, Mercedes, do something that doesn't look like it came out of the same wind tunnel as every other pickup.

        2. thom   9 years ago

          Real question: is Mercedes considered a luxury brand outside of the US? I feel like everytime I've traveled outside the US I see Mercedes everything: cop cars, service vehicles, taxi cabs...and just plain normal middle class folks driving them.

          1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

            Fun fact - the only reason the Buick label wasn't dropped was because it became a luxury brand in China.

            1. writ large   9 years ago

              Dealership recently loaned me a brand new Lacrosse for a coupla days.

              Hated returning it.

              Very very nice.

          2. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

            is Mercedes considered a luxury brand outside of the US?

            Only the high end models. Same for Boomers (BMW), and Audi. Mid range and economy (yes, Mercedes makes economy cars for the Euro poor market) are priced accordingly, and surprisingly affordably. Where they REALLY get you in Euro-landia are driving school fees (like Germany, for example), INSURANCE (THAT'S where they really get you), and overall taxes on personal vehicles.

          3. Gadfly   9 years ago

            No, Mercedes is not a luxury brand outside the US. I remember being amused by seeing Mercedes garbage trucks when living in Germany.

  39. Aloysious   9 years ago

    ENB: damn, that's quite a linkstorm. Job well done. You should go home fifty minutes early today.

    1. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

      Why? She'll just make up that fifty hours somewhere else, enslaved by Teh Patriarchy!

    2. Free Society   9 years ago

      She has to go home and wash her dishes and then *gasp* NOT GET PAID FOR IT OMG. Wage gap! patriarchy!

  40. Rohdewarrior   9 years ago

    "A new study from the World Economic Forum claims that globally, woman work an average of 50 minutes more per day or 39 more days per year than men do." does not add up.
    Even if they were working 365 days a year, 365 * 5/6 / 24 is less that 13 days.

    1. Rohdewarrior   9 years ago

      I suppose if you're talking 8 hour days then that would technically be correct (but certainly misleading) -- and that still assumes working every single day of the year.

      1. Free Society   9 years ago

        And it implies that society owes you something because you folded some towels at home after work and all those dick-havers didn't even pay you.

        1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

          Could it be that these women do housework because they like having a tidy home? Might they have a lower tolerence for clutter than men?

          1. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

            Making the bed. Most pointless endeavor ever.

            My wife makes the bed every day because it bothers her if it isn't. That said, I don't think she gets to count that as extra work.

            1. Holger da Dane   9 years ago

              Making the bed. Most pointless endeavor ever.

              No it isn't. Mowing the lawn is the most pointless endeavor. EVER. Nothing else comes close.

              Nothing says pointless like planting thousands of seeds, then spending the rest of your life keeping the resulting plants at a specific length and confined to a certain area. The pointlessness is exacerbated by the absurdity that if you don't engage in this Sisyphusian ritual, you will earn the scorn of your neighbors, and maybe even get fined by your local government.

              The distant runner-up is wearing a tie. Then, maybe, making the bed.

          2. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

            That's certainly the case with my girlfriend and I when it comes to cleaning. (Although that's the only kind of housework she does besides whichever one of cooking/doing the dishes I did not do that night).

          3. Free Society   9 years ago

            When my wife bitches at me for not replacing the duvet cover once a week, this is owing to the fact that I find duvet covers to be pointless relics from a more retarded era in blanket technology. So do I owe her money for work that she does purely for her own enjoyment? Methinks not.

      2. Brett L   9 years ago

        Stop mathing! Its patriarchical.

  41. Jerryskids   9 years ago

    This is some scary news about Iceland actually maybe having the Pirate Party as a major party. I just can't wrap my head around the idea that any civilized country would actually accept the idea that self-professed looters and pillagers openly expressing contempt for the rule of law could posssibly be considered a legitimate form of government, even if they promise to share the loot equally and claim that they are somehow entitled to the loot because anybody possessing loot must have first looted it from the lootless in the first place. I mean, just how long can you expect a society like that to last when everybody's trying to profit at everybody else's expense? Wouldn't you have to be a moron to work hard and try to achieve success on your own, knowing that a group of pirates is going to come along and steal all your stuff, claim that you didn't build that and they're just taking back what they're entitled to - and people are going to applaud for the pirates?!?! That's some inconceivably messed-up shit right there. Socialist pirates are crazy. Glad we don't have anything like that here.

    1. tarran   9 years ago

      If only we had some way to promote comments we like....

    2. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

      When I was in Iceland I didn't see much that could have been described as loot-worthy. I loved the trip, but it seemed like everyone was just in the service industry (which is kind of what you would expect from a whole country with 300k people).

    3. Tonio   9 years ago

      [applauds heartily]

  42. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    In the U.S., we have concerts that are larger than Iceland.

    Haha. From Wiki Allknowing:

    The Indianapolis Motor Speedway, located in Speedway, Indiana, (an enclave suburb of Indianapolis) in the United States, is the home of the Indianapolis 500 and the Brickyard 400.[4] It is located on the corner of 16th Street and Georgetown Road, approximately six miles (10 km) west of Downtown Indianapolis.

    Constructed in 1909, it is the original speedway, the first racing facility so named. It has a permanent seating capacity estimated at 235,000[1] with infield seating raising capacity to an approximate 400,000.[5]

    Standing out there on the grid you can probably *see* nearly 200,000 people.

  43. Free Society   9 years ago

    A new study from the World Economic Forum claims that globally, woman work an average of 50 minutes more per day or 39 more days per year than men do.

    Did they include the nebulous criteria of "unpaid work" like that of a homemaker? Welll yes they did! I'm just so sure they were just as fastidious about trying to calculate the "unpaid work" of men too.

    The Obama administration is calling for a ban on non-compete agreements.

    Retardation: A Celebration

    1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

      Men's "unpaid work" is all hobbyist, like auto maintenance and lawn care, so it doesn't count.

      1. Free Society   9 years ago

        To add to that, I'd say the type of "unpaid" work that men do around the house tends to be more skilled, than unskilled, so it's just as valuable if not more so than dishes and laundry. Yes my wife does all the kids' laundry and vacuums, and dusting et cetera, whereas I tile the bathroom, installed the shower, re-roof the house (alone), change her oil, replaced our electrical lines and swapped out the old plumbing for new stuff and fixed the furnace when it broke. I also open pickle jars from time to time.

        I want to tell these whiners...
        It's called "division of labor" and it's not simply a factor of time you stupid fucking leftists.

        1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

          They're trapped in labor-value mentality. Simply doing something for a period of time is an expression of the value of time spent, whatever it's spent doing, and since someone spends more time doing something than you she is per force doing more than you are.

          1. Free Society   9 years ago

            I'm not sure if it's a curse or a blessing that high schoolers so rarely get instructed about basic economics. On the one hand, you have things like the "labor theory of value" still being promoted in 2016 despite well over one hundred years of disproving that notion, on the other hand I'm not sure I'd want generations of people to receive their economic insights from government school teachers. I think I'd rather they be pig ignorant and therefore susceptible to economic stupidity than to have them enlightened by lies.

    2. The Fusionist   9 years ago

      "Welll yes they did! I'm just so sure they were just as fastidious about trying to calculate the "unpaid work" of men too."

      Yeah, I got calluses on my fingers from constantly changing the channel, but this so-called "study" doesn't take that work into account.

      1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

        ...and my voice is hoarse from constantly yelling "get me a beer!"

  44. creech   9 years ago

    "now-leaked email that Clinton's aides used private email servers because "they wanted to get away with it."

    At this point, what difference does it make? I think if an e-mail surfaced where Clinton said, "Fuck the American people. Bill and I can get rich selling favors to foreign governments...." it wouldn't sway her voters who thinks she walks on water because she has a vagina.

  45. Mainer2   9 years ago

    "women work an average of 50 minutes more per day or 39 more days per year than men do."

    It's the time they spend in the kitchen making sammiches, amirite ?

  46. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

    'Walking Dead' premiere slammed by Parents Television Council

    Parents Television Council President Tim Winter said changes need to made.

    "It's not enough to 'change the channel,' as some people like to advocate, because cable subscribers ? regardless of whether they want AMC or watch its programming ? are still forced to subsidize violent content," he stated in a press release sent to FOX411. "This brutally explicit show is a powerful demonstration of why families should have greater control over the TV networks they purchase from their cable and satellite providers."

    "When you look at the definition of MA and what the content of the show is, it's unquestionable they chose what best represented the content," Winter said. "This certainly raises question of if there should be an even more severe rating than TV-MA."

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      Get a life Tim.

    2. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

      The PTC still exists?

      1. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

        They're like zombies.

    3. Tonio   9 years ago

      Yo, fuck the PTC.

    4. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

      Mary Katharine Ham made a point about Walking Dead enthusiasts seeming not really to enjoy the show despite watching it religiously, like they have some bizarre Stockholm relationship with it.

    5. Free Society   9 years ago

      "It's not enough to 'change the channel,' as some people like to advocate, because cable subscribers ? regardless of whether they want AMC or watch its programming ? are still forced to subsidize violent content," he stated in a press release sent to FOX411.

      So you want to talk about things we're forced to subsidize against our will? Boy-o-boy, pull up a chair and let's have a talk. But first, we need to address your profoundly retarded view of what constitutes "force".

    6. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

      Cancel your cable and go with Netflix and Hulu, buy a Roku to hook that to your TV. Anything you want to watch that can't come from doing those things can be easily illegally streamed. There. No "subsidization" of violent content.

    7. Holger da Dane   9 years ago

      Parents Television Council President Tim Winter said changes need to made.

      Can you imagine a world where every cable company's set-top box had some kind of functionality, whereby parents could block certain channels they don't want their kids watching? Suddenly it would be more than just "changing the channel", you would have actual control over what your kids watch (in your own house).

      Wait, this is already reality? But you're too lazy/stupid to figure out how it works? Obviously forcing everyone to adopt your solution to your moral panic is the right choice then. Carry on.

  47. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

    I hate Minnesoda bycyclists almost as much as Illinois Nazis.

    The latest demand by the local cycling activists is to have more bike paths built so that they can ride directly to the airport. Don't worry about the fact that there is a tax payer light rail line that runs to the airport terminals that has bike racks in them. They complain that it would add another $4.50 to their ride if they had to take the train.

    Nope, they think the city should build them new trails. Specifically a $7M new trail

    The proposed 0.9-mile route would run from the Upper Post at Fort Snelling along Hwy. 5, threading a ?narrow slope between the airport fence and highway shoulder. State and federal agencies would have to sign off due to its proximity to the runway and a limited-access freeway. It would require tunnels and a overpass. There may be utilities and limestone in the way.

    The cost? $7 million. The time frame? Maybe 20 years.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      We let them in the door. Now they won't leave.

      Montreal's roads have become retarded thanks to all the stupidly laid out bike paths.

      But at least we have them, amirite?!

      1. Free Society   9 years ago

        It's amazing, these social engineers visit the densely populated Netherlands and conclude that they need to have bicyclist infrastructure like that back home. Nevermind that the distance between two Dutch villages takes about a 10-15 minute commute...while walking whereas here in North America, the nearest town to mine is a 25 minute drive on the highway. But yeah, we should totally do what the Dutch do.

    2. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

      In cities better bike infrastructure can be a very good thing for everyone (even the people who don't bike), but the problem with it is that most cyclists are like most drivers: they're assholes about it.

      1. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

        I like biking. I usually commute quite a bit by bike in the summer.

        I can't stand the activists though. They never apply and cost to benefit analysis to any project. They want giant bridges built to cross roads. They want super wide bike paths built.

        And yeah, they ride like assholes in traffic.

        1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

          The most hilarious thing I see is when some cyclists get all angry about pedestrians slowing them down by being "in the way" like this considering how hostile the cyclist community is to any attempt to limit inconvenience to drivers (to be fair, this level of hypocrisy doesn't come up very often).

          Also, the idea of letting bikes pass on the right is so stupid and dangerous.

          1. tarran   9 years ago

            Not to defend asshole cyclists (and believe me I hate them too), but the pedestrian on bikepath thing can be not only a pain, but a danger.

            In the past two weeks, I've encountered:
            1) A dog walker with one of those extendable leashes whose dog decided to suddenly dash accross the width of the entire bike path to attack a flock of Canadian geese. This was on a dedicated bike path.

            2) Same bike path, pedestrian talking on the phone, walking away from me. With no warning, gets angry and flings his arm out wide just before I get abreast of him. Luckily he had been meandering so I had my eye on him. I'm sure he was right, the other guy was "full of shit."

            3) Riding at night, into the pool of my headlight and out into the street, walks a girl in dark clothes looking at her phone. Then when I jam on the brakes and try to steer behind her she starts to leap back to the sidewalk (the squeek of my brakes startled her). Fortunately she froze allowing me to complete my turn.

            4) Back to the bike path. An elderly chinese couple walking for exercise. I and another biker were approaching them from behind. They are in the middle of the path, slighly veering to the left. The other biker does a very stupid thing. He rings his bell and tries to pass them on the right. The man stops and pivots on his right foot in a leftward direction to peer behind him. This shoves his wife to the right.

            1. tarran   9 years ago

              The other biker starts swearing and shouting as he goes off the path into some nasty mud + Canadian-goose-shit mixture. He somehow avoided falling but got the gunk on his back and I suspect water bottle. Again, I was slowing down because I could sense this was not going to go well. So I got the full stink eye from the Chinese gentleman as I went by on the left.

              5) Bike path on a steep slope. Two older women walking vigorously, pumping their arms. Me coming up the hill. They aren't looking where they are going. They start veering to take up the whole path. I call to them. They aren't listening (they are talking through the gasps of their exertions and looking down at the ground). Nothing for it. I stop, since if they collide with me, I figure it's best if I'm a stationary object with three points of contact on the ground. The one on a collision course starts as she sees my tire swim into her peripheral vision. She scurries back to her side of the path. I'm stopped, on a steep hill, not in my hillclimbing gear, and I need to get started again.

              If people walked on streets the way they walk on bike paths, the rate at which pedestrians were killed would be an order of magnitude higher. Bicycles are vehicles. They can't stop on a dime. You can't act on a bike path like you are in the hallway of your house.

              1. tarran   9 years ago

                I haven't had a collision with a pedestrian since 2004 (Coast guard cpo taking the annual PRT did a sudden 90 degree turn and stepped in front of my bike). But that's more due to my vigilence than the prudence of the pedestrians.

              2. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

                I prefer to ride with traffic than among pedestrians. The fucking mouthbreathers who clog up the dedicated bike paths here, despite there being huge stretches of gravel roadway to trudge along, piss me off so much more than drivers. Granted, the latter could kill me, but the former have no excuse for being inattentive.

                ON YOUR LEFT ON YOUR LEFT YOU STUPID FUCK GET OFF THE BIKE PATH OMG

                1. ace_m82   9 years ago

                  Yeah, if it's an urban road speed limit of 25 MPH or so, I'm going to be doing about 20 or more anyway. And the walkers are doing 3 MPH...

                  A few years ago I was riding on the bike path next to W river parkway near the U of M in Minneapolis, and I realized I'd be safer dealing with cars on the road itself rather than the peds on the trail.

                  Oh, for everyone else reading this, the general rule of travel is "do unto others". Failing that, "don't be a jerk".

                  1. R C Dean   9 years ago

                    Well, my driving philosophy is certainly "do unto others before they do unto you".

                    1. ace_m82   9 years ago

                      That's not from the KJV. More like the JJV*.

                      (Jesse James Version)

            2. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

              The issue I was pointing out isn't that pedestrians and bikers are safe together, it's that some bikers complain about that while ignoring that they cause the same issue to drivers. The guy in question wants the right of way over both faster cars and slower pedestrians.

      2. DaveSs   9 years ago

        Driving around a city with bike lanes (Boulder) convinced me that roads are for cars.

        The bike lane markings are confusing as hell, and frequently I was unsure about where the hell I was supposed to drive.
        The whole time I kept expecting some suicidal cyclist to pop out of nowhere.

        I was relieved to get out of there without grease marks on the side of my car.

      3. R C Dean   9 years ago

        Bike paths and car traffic are a difficult mix. We've got an assload of bike paths in Tucson that run alongside the real road, separated by nothing but a painted stripe. 4,000 pound vehicles going 40 mph and 12 pound vehicles going 12 mph are, well, difficult. We have a fair number of dead or injured cyclists as a result.

    3. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

      Who cycles to the airport? Who doesn't leave for the airport fifteen minutes late, every single time?

      1. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

        The only thing I want more than a mom and baby in the seat next to me for a 4 hour flight is a guy who is nice and sweaty from biking.

        1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

          I could only imagine.

          When I used to cycle to work in the winter I'd be fine for the trip, toasty-warm and lathered up. Then I'd get to work and be soaked and freezing to death in my cubicle.

        2. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

          To be fair, that bike messenger who is going to Vegas isn't going to shower before getting in a cab to catch that flight. So he might not be sweaty, but he will still smell.

    4. SimonD   9 years ago

      There is something weirdly dissonant about demanding a bike path to ride your bike to the airport.

      Their whining about paying to ride a bus (that they probably agitated to get in the first place) just pisses me off.

    5. ace_m82   9 years ago

      You can ride to the airport (I have done so more than once), just not from the North or East, only from the South and West.

      I used to live in Bloomington and am a crazy competitive cyclist. I never rode there to fly, only to train though. Not sure the logistics of trying to fly and getting there by bike...

  48. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    "This brutally explicit show is a powerful demonstration of why families should have greater control over the TV networks they purchase from their cable and satellite providers."

    If that means "We want family-friendly packages free from scary content," fine. If it means, "I don't approve, so nobody anywhere should be allowed to see it," he can go hang himself with piano wire.

    1. Tonio   9 years ago

      I think they want cafeteria plans where they can pick and choose which channels they want; no packages. Nobody is forcing them to buy anything.

  49. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    The latest demand by the local cycling activists is to have more bike paths built so that they can ride directly to the airport.

    Are they also "demanding" bicycle racks on the wings of all the planes?

  50. Stormy Dragon   9 years ago

    Legendary religious crank/cartoonist Jack Chick finally gets called before the white throne of judgement:

    Jack Chick, fundamentalist Christian cartoonist, dies at 92

    1. Tonio   9 years ago

      I posted that earlier this week. Has the family released the cause of death, yet? Many commenters here were thinking erotic asphyxiation.

    2. Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos   9 years ago

      Posted in yesterday's links. There was a discussion as to whether the cause of death was auto-erotic asphyxiation or HIV-related causes, although I have a feeling that the fact he was 92 years old has a lot more to do with it.

      1. Tonio   9 years ago

        Yeah, but there's no shame in dying of heart failure or cancer or any of the typical old-person things. I was the one to raise the HIV/AIDS possibility but qualified that with "possibly contracted from a blood transfusion." It was common in the 80's and 90's for religious families of people who died of AIDS to hush that up.

      2. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        HEY! At least one of us voted for "Satanic ritual gone wrong", I'll have you know.

      3. Mainer2   9 years ago

        At 92, maybe he died in a motorcycle accident like my great grandmother.

  51. Mr. Dyslexic   9 years ago

    Media lies about School Shooting

    The shooting took place at a park near a middle school. THIS WAS NOT A SCHOOL SHOOTING KSL!

    1. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

      Literally anywhere in the world other than Sandy middle school would be "outside Sandy middle school". And what would a 16-y/o be doing at a middle school, anyway?

      1. Tonio   9 years ago

        Held back two times?

    2. Tonio   9 years ago

      We need gun-free zones surrounding schools, not just for the school property itself. Why, some of those bullets can travel up to a mile! We therefore need a gun-free zone of at least one mile from the edge of any school property.

      1. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        A bullet fired from a mile away from the gun-free zone would still be able to reach the gun-free zone, so I would propose having the definition of a gun-free zone extended so as to include the idea that any land that touches a gun-free zone is also a gun-free zone.

        1. Mainer2   9 years ago

          It's just common sense.

        2. ace_m82   9 years ago

          This article they have a 375 Cheytac that hit a target at 4kms (on purpose). So it would need to be at least that large.

          1. ace_m82   9 years ago

            http://www.thefirearmblog.com/.....yard-shot/

    3. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

      Every act of violence regardless of the location or weapon used is a school shooting now.

      Get you're Newspeak Dictionary updated. Or else you'll need "rehabilitation".

  52. commodious cam't contmpla..   9 years ago

    So now you're going to quote Aretha Franklin at him, superbigot?

  53. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

    Empty? Depends on if you go by fares, or actual passenger count.

    Bad enough we built this, but then we make it so you don't have to actually pay a fare to get on? Suck on that Portland! We baked free loading right into our mass transit.

  54. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

    That's how Portland's crime rail works too. Sometimes there are fare inspectors. Sometimes.

  55. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

    Both light-rail lines allow riders to board without passing through a turnstile or showing a conductor a ticket. Riders are supposed to swipe their electronic fare cards at readers on a rail platform or purchase a ticket from a machine. Passengers are required to have a ticket while on a platform or train or have proof that they swiped their card.

    The conductor overhead would be quite high, I'm sure, but I have to think turnstiles entering the platform would easily pay for themselves.

  56. Groovus Maximus   9 years ago

    Do I get bonus points for all the vehicle maintenence I do? Or the carpentry? Or the plumbing and electrical upkeep?

    I'm loving all these domestic eupehmisms. It's very HGTV. And no, because of genetically ingrained sexism, you will NEVER get points for that, "Man Work," that every man worth his descended, factory original, testicles should know how to do.

  57. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

    All that time in the garage is just useless wanking.

  58. Pope Jimbo   9 years ago

    Especially when you consider how much they spent on the platforms for the light rail.

    I think though that they would rather have more ridership than more revenue. I'm sure the mooches will be first in line to protest any attempts to reduce service levels in order to control costs.

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