Gary Johnson

Gary Johnson Hits Hollywood, Predicts a Big Future for the Libertarian Party

But that future will not involve him as a candidate, he insists. Johnson speaks on policy, possibilities, and his "legit shot" at the very difficult task of running third party.

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"Oh, you're the talent" said the guard in the parking lot for Jimmy Kimmel Live last night as Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson announced himself.

Gage Skidmore

This particular "talent," if current polls are any indication, is about to do more for the public profile and vote-grabbing power of the Libertarian Party, by a vast margin, than anyone ever has. That's indeed some talent.

At that same time, Johnson is ready to leave the political battle after serving as the soldier "first over the hill," as he puts it, in the war for Libertarian respectability.

"I'm not going to have a future as a candidate. This is my swan song," Johnson said in an interview conducted in the drive from his 554-attendee Hollywood rally yesterday afternoon to his appearance on Kimmel.

"Staying active politically, that interests me, and I hope to have an impact politically. But not as a candidate. That's done."

It's not that the experience has been hostile or miserable for Johnson. When I ask if he's noticed any standard issues that make people he meets on the trail resistant to him, he denies encountering resistance at all, except with the hoary "wasted vote" argument.

The perennially chill Johnson insists he "takes great umbrage with that notion. A wasted vote is voting for someone you don't believe in." He's proud that his strong polling among millennials, independents, and active military personnel means he's "offering them their first vote for something they can truly get behind."

In his experience, Johnson says, "people care about everything and want to hear about everything" in his policy grab bag, an opinion reflected in his wide-ranging half-hour stump speech he gave to a very enthusiastic and young-skewing crowd at Hollywood's Boulevard 3 nightclub space on Sunset Boulevard, a venue commonly used for showbiz afterparties, just a few blocks from the storied corner of Hollywood and Vine.

What Johnson hears most often, he says, is: "Holy cow, you know what? I agreed with everything that guy had to say, or 90 percent of it."

And Johnson thinks that this sort of agreement with his "pragmatic" version of the Libertarian message is going to mean great things for the L.P. down the line, with or without him. (He insists that in areas where Libertarians think he doesn't go far enough, it's not that he disagrees with their values, but that "I think if you start talking about end goals that are completely unachievable…how about a goal that is achievable but gets you closer to the end result? You've heard me say that before. It's pragmatic.")

He then adds, almost as an aside, that any way it might "turn out to be a complete fallacy that you could actually get elected [president] as a third party."

That sounded a little sour, I suggest. "Not sour, no," he corrects me. It's like the old Gandhi adage. "First they ignore you, well, I've experienced that. They they make fun of you, OK, I sure went through that phase. Then they attack you. I'm now in that phase. Hey, that's not fun but that's the process by which you win, and in my case maybe not win election but Libertarians will win in upcoming cycles and maybe I contributed to that.

"My prediction is there are going to be a slew of former elected Democrats and former elected Republicans, that on the Democratic side are actually fiscally conservative and can finally shed that giveaway notion about government," he says.

"Then there will be all sorts of former Republican elected officials who would love to shed all that social dogma." These groups, Johnson says, will see the L.P. moving forward as a legitimate place to seek political office, "and the Libertarian Party is going to find itself in a position of, Holy cow! We got some real choices here."

This is based on his strong feeling that he's going to get the 5 percent needed to trigger both easier ballot access in many states, and the possibility of federal money for the Party.

As for voices in the Party who object to taking any public monies of any sort, Johnson thinks "they would be crazy not to." Starting off with, say, $20 million in the coffers would be a necessary equalizer for the Party. "Now, if Libertarians, if they want to disregard that, well, then the Libertarian Party is not ever going to be able to compete. This is what I think I'm going to be able to deliver to the Libertarian Party. What they do with it? That's a whole other…." His voice trails off.

It isn't necessarily going to cripple Libertarian momentum to have someone other than Johnson leading the political charge; while most of the rally attendees I spoke to said they did cotton to Johnson's personal aura of honesty and guilelessness, his support is more about ideas than fealty to the man himself.

After an enthusiastically received introduction from actor Brando Eaton (Awkward) (who spoke of how America achieved greatness as an example of freedom, not by shoving guns in other people's faces to force them to do things) Johnson gave his standard stump speech, about a half hour long.

It covers the wide waterfront of his policies, with some of the biggest applaud or cheer lines being his call for skepticism about military intervention, opposition to crony capitalism where government picks winner, term limits, pardoning Edward Snowden, and support for the Second Amendment. (Though Johnson continues to aggravate some Second Amendment fans by following that up quickly with the idea that we should be "open to debate" about ways to keep weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill and terrorists.)

Johnson delivered a smart extended take on how and why lack of consumer-visible price mechanisms in health care contribute to the health care cost crisis, far more detailed and educated than anything you're apt to hear from his major party opponents.

He is also unique compared to his competitors in being willing to discuss the looming entitlement cost crisis. As he told me in our interview after the rally, "it's not an option to not reform entitlements." Failure to grapple with it from his opponents "is politics as usual, about pandering and making promises and these promises are going to cost ultimately the downfall of the country because of the impending inflation that at some point is going to accompany all this."

Johnson thinks that Libertarians running the federal show "would have a unique opportunity to be able to say objectively that it is not an option to not deal with" entitlements. If they could make a run around how the major party politicians are "divided based on political affiliation…if you had Libertarians in there with a smile on their face" convincing them "we should objectively look at" real reform, "I think there would be an opportunity."

People come to Johnson because they think he matches their values or concerns, not because they think he's some policy genius whose instincts they must trust. Indeed, the first two people I talked to in the stretched-around-the-block line to get in to the event each had a bone to pick with him. Dege Coutee, a marijuana activist, thinks Johnson doesn't understand the implications of California's Proposition 64 on marijuana legalization and wishes he'd say out loud that it is not the right approach to legalization. (A handout Coutee gives me gripes that the proposition is "funded by billionaire supporters of Big Pharma & Monsanto" and objects to its "dozens of new taxes, fees and fines" and how it "overturns medical marijuana.")

In his stump speech, Johnson cheered Californians for their ability to legalize pot this year, which he insists will be a "tipping point" that will make legislators across the country go to direct legalization without ballot initiatives needed. Coutee tells me that most of the people she knows in the pot activist community still feel obligated to vote Clinton, from a sense that the Democrats tend more to their side than the Republicans.

The second person I met was Kevin Patten, who writes for the radical libertarian website Striketheroot. He is careful not to say he will necessarily be voting for anyone, but because of what he sees as Johnson's foreign policy ignorance and lack of a consistently sharp anti-intervention message, he says he's more likely to support Trump. (He thinks Trump's more of a sure thing to curb any looming conflict with Russia.) Patten pressed Johnson to say he definitely does not support a no-fly zone over Syria as he left the rally.

Most of the people I talked to in the audience had been on the Johnson train since before this election, many coming to the Libertarian Party via an initial interest in Ron Paul in 2008 or '12. All said they had a sense that awareness and interest in Johnson among their non-Libertarian friends was higher this year.

Aaron Bonn, who works in a law firm and says he was first attracted back in the mid-'00s to the idea of "the libertarian Democrat," says that most people he knows on that end of the spectrum are reluctant about Johnson over two major concerns: global warming and the idea that stopping Trump is a vital imperative.

Megan Seal, who works in graphic design and says she is "interested" in Johnson but not yet fully sold, admits many of her friends focus on the "Aleppo moment" to discount Johnson, though she detects a very widespread sense of systemic dissatisfaction with contemporary politics helping focus people outside the immediate Libertarian orbit on Johnson, and on other third party choices.

A sense of desperate urgency, that the fate of the Republic is at stake in this election, is not the sole province of those who think Clinton must beat Trump, or that Trump must beat Clinton. I talk with a trio of old friends from Beaumont, California, all of whom say they drifted or are thinking of drifting Libertarian from the Republican side. One of them is Fred King, an old Reagan fan who works in interactive marketing for health care and defense industries. He tells me he's willing to risk his business reputation by promoting Johnson online since he feels so much is at stake in this election.

An America that won't elect Johnson, he thinks, is abandoning the Constitution. "I think it's a tipping point for our country," King said. "If we don't make changes, don't have a conversation on the ethics and morals of the people we are voting for…if we are not standing for something, caring about actual facts, then where's your endpoint?"

The world, and the subset of the world that is these United States, presents itself to all of us as something more to be coped with and managed than something changeable by our own force of will and personality. Whether the U.S.A. stands as a place where people live, work, consume, succeed, and fail with roughly the level of peace, order, and prosperity it's used to, or is about to collapse into systemic chaos, well, it's a bit out of any individual hands.

Our Democratic republic with freedom of speech and of the press give us space on the margins to try to shape it as we'd prefer, generally by convincing other people that we are right about how we should govern and comport ourselves.

As Gary Johnson is in perhaps a better space to recognize than most us, even positions of such prominence as running for president of the United States on all 50 ballots leave us with less power than we might want, and it's important to recognize that. But "I really do think I've had a legit shot" and "despite how stacked it all is, you know what? This is a lot of attention that's been given."

When I first pressed Johnson about what he thinks and feels about how Evan McMullin has overtaken him and destroyed any chance of Johnson being a major player in McMullin's home state of Utah, he just tersely said: "It is what it is."

Later I return to the topic and he says a little more. "It's just that he's from Utah and he's a Mormon…..He's going to split the Republican vote in Utah to where Hillary's going to win."

I ask if he thinks the forces behind McMullin put him up with the intention of harming Johnson's chances. "Oh, you know, I don't know. I have no idea. It is what it is."

Then Johnson gets philosophical, and perhaps hits the wisest take on electoral politics for the libertarian-minded.

"What's the adage? If you let things that are completely out of your control make you go crazy, then you're going to go crazy."

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287 responses to “Gary Johnson Hits Hollywood, Predicts a Big Future for the Libertarian Party

  1. 5%? Lol!

    GayJay’s poll numbers continue to collapse. There aren’t enough burnout dopesmokers and #NeverTrump neocons to get him anywhere NEAR 5%. Go ahead, throw your vote away.

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    2. I live in Texas.

      Texas goes R most convincingly.

      Me voting for a Libertarian does not affect the election.

      It does effect the next one though if enough people vote Libertarian so that we get Federal Funding.

      I’m voting for the Johnson and I’m not throwing my vote away.

      I’m investing it for the future.

      1. The Libertarian Party has no future nominating anti-liberty Republican candidates like Johnson/Weld.

        1. The GOP has no future nominating anty-liberty Democrat candidates like Trump/Pence.

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        2. No shit.

          Rand would have had a legitimate shot this year, had he been the nominee.
          Instead we got a couple douchebags trying their damnest to rebrand libertarian as prog light.

    3. Yeah? How about this: Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

      You miserable sumbitch.

      1. He should be – his team’s star player is throwing the game.

    4. Only a few more weeks and our long trolling season will be over, stick to the lingerie.

    5. (He insists that in areas where Libertarians think he doesn’t go far enough, it’s not that he disagrees with their values, but that “I think if you start talking about end goals that are completely unachievable…how about a goal that is achievable but gets you closer to the end result? You’ve heard me say that before. It’s pragmatic.”)

      A couple of generations from now, when Liberty has actually gained ground in this country, and the old system is dead, people will marvel that myopic “libertarians” didn’t enthusiastically push Gary Johnson – the man who truly got the movement moving – with all they had, just becuase he threatened their beloved GOP. The fact that some voted for Donald Trump will be completely incomprehensible.

    6. Who cares what his numbers are. Voting for either of those two criminals is not an option for a sane person.

    7. So, okay. view your vote as a miniscule statement about what you believe . . or throw it away, as the piece of shit you are voting for is’

    8. So, okay. view your vote as a miniscule statement about what you believe . . or throw it away, as the piece of shit you are voting for is’

    9. So, okay. view your vote as a miniscule statement about what you believe . . or throw it away, as the piece of shit you are voting for is’

  2. The second person I met was Kevin Patten, who writes for the radical libertarian website Striketheroot. He is careful not to say he will necessarily be voting for anyone, but because of what he sees as Johnson’s foreign policy ignorance and lack of a consistently sharp anti-intervention message, he says he’s more likely to support Trump.

    See, radical libertarians back Trump.

    1. So the guy doesn’t want to vote for someone with ignorance of foreign policy so he says he’ll vote for Trump. Seems legit.

      1. That seems very odd from a Strike-The-Root writers. Most of the guys over there are hardcore ancaps.

        1. If a hardcore an-cap is going to bother to vote at all, TRUMP is THE MAN.

      1. ^TEAM LP^

        ” a Republican who smokes pot”

    2. I think radical libertarian must be code word for retard.

    3. ‘Radical libertarian’ typically means “guy who’s willing to trade personal autonomy for ‘better outcomes’ – brought about by more government power”.

  3. When I first pressed Johnson about what he thinks and feels about how Evan McMullin has overtaken him and destroyed any chance of Johnson being a major player in McMullin’s home state of Utah, he just tersely said: “It is what it is.”

    GayJay’s looking at a 4th place finish in Mormonville. LIBERTARIAN MOMENT!

    1. Dude, pull the Johnson out of your ass.

    2. destroyed any chance of Johnson‘s being a major player

    3. Oh no – Johnson can’t make it in that bastion of personal freedom and autonomy called Utah? Whatever will the Mormon Caliphate do?

  4. “If you let things that are completely out of your control make you go crazy, then you’re going to go crazy.”

    OK, but losing so many votes to McMuffin in Utah wasn’t completely out of his control.

    Maybe if he hadn’t gone around preaching legal abortion and compulsory cake he’d be competitive among Mormons?

    1. And pretty much non-competitive everywhere else in the country. Sad but true – if he had been a genuine libertarian the existence of third parties would still not even rise to the level of ‘thorn in the side’ of the major parties.

  5. But what about libertarian policies and beliefs?

    Basically he’s been campaigning as “74% of Bernie Sanders”, trying to appeal to young socialists, but he’s not pushing libertarianism, just trying to come off as a guy for dope smokers and Chomsky/Zinn anti-Americans.

    1. just trying to come off as a guy for dope smokers and Chomsky/Zinn anti-Americans

      How’s GayJay polling with the chemtrails constituency? Another missed opportunity for Captain Aleppo.

      1. Dude, it’s Al Eppo.

  6. Aaron Bonn, who works in a law firm and says he was first attracted back in the mid-’00s to the idea of “the libertarian Democrat,”

    THE JACKALOPE LIVES !

    1. Yes he does. And right now, he’s pretty thrilled that he just got mentioned in his favorite magazine. Thanks, Brian Doherty.

  7. We haven’t had a good nut punch in a while.

    Student in Georgia has leg amputated after being thrown down a flight of stairs by state-paid thug:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016…..ident.html

    1. The school said the person doesn’t work for the district anymore.

      I’m pretty sure that’s a de facto admission of guilt when a government employee gets disappeared that fast.

      1. “The person” is probably beating up students at another fine Georgia institution these days.

      2. So no charges? Just firing or quitting? No lawsuit at least?

  8. Oh, goody, Charles “Philippe P?tain” Grassley is pre-emptively surrendering to Hillary.

    1. There are forces at work that no one can understand. That is why Trump is where he is. It’s a mystery.

    2. Republicans “can’t just simply stonewall” nominees to the Supreme Court even if the president making the choice is Democrat Hillary Clinton, says the GOP chairman of the Judiciary Committee in a reaffirmation of the Senate’s advise-and-consent role on judicial picks.

      Well, they *can* – they just shouldn’t.

      A President gets to ‘pick’ a SC justice with the consent of Congress. For Congress to refuse to advise and *give consent when appropriate* (not ‘give consent in the end no matter how much you bitch about it’) is a dereliction of their duty.

      Clinton is perfectly capable of nominating a SCJ acceptable to the GOP – as long as one of their selection criteria is not ‘nominated by a Democrat’ – given that the GOP is distinct from the DNP but not different.

  9. Poor SIV with his Johnson Derangement Syndrome.

    1. Dude, three posts in a row, like back-to-back. Point to the place on the doll where Gary Johnson touched you, SIV.

      I’m beginning to think he and Michael Hihn go to the same psychiatrist.

      1. Celebrating the feeding of people into woodchippers is NOT a psychiatric malady?
        With more experience in online forums you’ll learn how one can respond to three different comments, 10 comments apart in a lengthy thread and your comments can appear all in a row,
        We’re patients with newbies.
        But that woodchipper stuff is kinda wacky.

    2. I’m pretty sure SIV is playing a character, it’s performance art. Kinda like Agile, but not as entertaining or intellectually provocative.

      1. I think he is. But I’m not sure he can stop.

        1. He’s a dude playing the dude disguised as another dude!

      2. Kinda like Agile

        How dare you imply that The Prophet is an act!

        Long live the fighters!

        1. Oh, I wasn’t in any way implying that our poet laureate was an act, I was saying he is an artist.

      3. If SIV is playing a character, it’s someone that would be a better gentleman than Dave Foley.

  10. Muslims in Malaysia want the name “hot dog” to be changed
    http://www.bbc.com/swahili/habari-37704786

    “In Islam, the dog is a dirty animal, and so this name cannot represent halal food,” explained an idiot in a turban.

    1. In Islam, the dog is a dirty animal…

      Plus they don’t drink. All I’m saying is what kind of monsters don’t like beer OR puppies!?

      1. Elsewhere in the article, it says that Malaysian law prohibits food and drink names from containing any reference to pork, alcohol, or anything else un-Islamic.

        1. So nothing au jews?

        2. A little hair of the dog, eh?

          1. Alternate joke: Sentencing enhancer for Red Dog beer.

      2. It is almost like they designed their culture to be as offensive and dysfunctional as possible.

        1. Given that they seem to be having a lot more success invading our countries than we are invading theirs, I’ll give you offensive, but if you want to look at the dysfunctional culture, I’d suggest you look in the mirror.

          1. Who knew there were ivory towers in the sewer?

          2. Funny, last time I checked several countries in the ME we bombed out and/or occupied by the US *right now*. Ain’t seeing anywhere near as many muslim bombs going off over here.

    2. Is it possible fir a hot dog to ever be halal?

      1. Hebrew National franks are kosher. I presume it’s not that much of a stretch to go from kosher to halal.

        1. I was going to make a joke about “as simple as crossing the street in Jerusalem”… but we’ll skip that…

          The list of animals forbidden by kashrut is more restrictive, as kashrut requires that, to be kosher, mammals must chew cud and must have cloven hooves. Halal only requires that an animal survive on grass and leaves. Thus some animals such as the camel are permissible under halal, but not according to kashrut.

          most of the rest of it just involves having an appointed Moozy or Jew doing the slaughter and then the blessing

      1. Beef dogs, turkey dogs. Not that hard.

        1. Hot dogs are beef – mostly. Mostly beef. I don’t ever think I’ve seen a pork frank (as opposed to just a pork sausage-inna-bun).

          1. The hell you say sir?

    3. DERP! You posted a link to the Swahili language edition. You don’t speak Swahili do you? I mean, not unless you’ve been learning it lately – which I wouldn’t ask about since you’re not supposed to tell.

      On an unrelated note – we’re planning on invading Kenya now?

      1. I learned Swahili in the Peace Corps and I read and listen to it occasionally so I don’t forget it. I am studying a different language for the Army.

        1. Ah, ok – I thought maybe you were accidentally releasing classified information by revealing your language knowledge.

    4. “In Islam, the dog is a dirty animal, and so this name cannot represent halal food,” explained an idiot in a turban.

      Even a greater idiot than represented in the link ? amongst other things, Mohammed used to pray in the presence of dogs, which he wouldn’t have done if they were unclean. Fucking imams ruin everything with their sub-100 IQ “interpretations” of Islam.

      1. Probably obvious, but just in case, the “idiot in a turban” part is not actually in the article.

      2. I’m guessing “son of a bitch” over there holds the same weight as “cunt” here.

        1. I was talking with a friend of mine about differences in insults between cultures.

          Abu Kilab (roughly: Father of dogs) would be a major insult in ME cultures. In the West its practically a compliment.

    5. “Most Muslims follow Islam moderate but increasing conservative behavior among them”

      Well that explains that.

      Radical Muslims aren’t radical by Muslim standards, they are the most devout.

      1. That’s basically the way it goes with all religions – the most devout are the ones most zealous to bring the ‘truth’ to the world, by fire and sword if necessary (and often preferred).

    6. Then . . . just call it something else.

  11. God I wish we had gone with McAfee. His type of crazy would have fit right in this election. Johnson has the charisma of a dish towel.

    1. This^

      I kinda want a U.S. version of Rob Ford. Just for a little bit.

      1. I think I’d rather have the Canadian Rob Ford than either of the two choices with which we’re stuck.

        (yeah, I know….but absent a tragedy (or a miracle), either The Orange Avenger or Granmaw Felony will be the next President (or maybe Tim Kaine, who could be worse than either of them)).

        1. I think I’d rather have the Canadian Rob Ford

          Well, sadly, we will never see that.

      2. Fuck ya! Cocaine for everyone! Cocaine and Lisinopril are the main attributes to my immortality.

    2. McAfee was the right and only choice. The LP blew it.

      1. Would’ve been an interesting candidacy… but the media probably would’ve doubled down on painting him as crazy (not to mention playing up Stripper Candidate and inexorably linking both of them), and Trump would’ve certainly needled him on that murder thing.

      2. At the beginning I said that Johnson would be the better candidate because he’s not bug-fuck crazy. And he’s done more for the *Libertarian* party (and third parties in general) than McAfee could ever do.

        But given Trump’s performance, McAfee would have had nearly as much chance to get elected. A lot of people want a bug-fuck crazy outsider this time around and all we’ve got to offer them is Trump.

  12. Amusing: journalist for BBC Swahili says money spent fighting climate change would be better spent on preventing traffic accidents

    http://www.bbc.com/swahili/37719686

    “The UNEP report ‘Global Outlook on Walking and Cycling’ explains that the lack of investment in the safety of pedestrians and cyclists contributes to the deaths of millions and ridicules the possibility of contributing to the war on climate change.”

    1. Google tells me that’s “war against the state change air.”

      1. “hali ya hewa” literally means “condition of [the] air” and can mean weather or climate.

        Habari ya hali ya hewa?
        News of the condition of the air?
        How’s the weather?

        1. “These are the figures of dead people walking or while driving a bike in traffic accidents”

          Well that’s the problem right there.

          Dead people should not be allowed to walk, drive or bike.

          1. And now we see why machine translation will not replace human interpreters any time soon.

            Apocryphal Cold War story: a Russian-English translating computer was being tested. They put the phrase “the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak” in English, translated it to Russian, then translated that back to English. The result was “the meat is good but the vodka stinks.”

            Context matters. Shaka when the walls fell.

            1. Current machine translators are pretty crude when it comes to idioms and slang. But AI will solve this and that’s not that far off.

              I developed a voice recognition application about 10 years ago for a mfg co so that the people on the production line could enter data hands free while they were doing other things with their hands. That was using Microsoft’s free, but relatively raw and buggy speech recognition libraries for C++. It worked pretty well for the simple stuff we were doing. But I can tell you, that speech recognition and machine translation has come a long ways since then. Even Google translate is far better than it was 5 years ago.

              1. ” Even Google translate is far better than it was 5 years ago.”

                Mainly because the translations get edited by humans from crowd-sourcing.

                Computers are fast but dumb. They need rules for everything, and they usually need a human to write the rules for them. Computers can design computer chips but they can’t program themselves yet.

                Funny story about voice recognition: some voice recognition software was developed in NYC, but when they field tested in Jawjaw the results were not promising.

                1. AI is a real thing. Computers are going to program themselves. My career is safe for now, because someone still has to interact with the humans and figure out what solution they want, even when they don’t know themselves. Humans are weird and most of the time unpleasant to downright insufferable. I for one welcome our new AI overlords.

                  1. I feel like AI is in the same category as practical electric cars or everyone speaking Esperanto.

                    But I’ve been wrong before.

                    1. I think AI will come once we understand how our own minds work. It’d be a lot easier to write code for an artificial intelligence when you have a working blueprint of how a natural intelligence works.

    2. Those third world rubes needs to get their priorities straight. Next thing you know, they’ll be complaining about the lack of food or water. SMDH.

  13. The latest dirt on Johnson: does anyone know the scoop?

    You see, “dirt” and “scoop” are puns, because the author accuses Johnson, as governor, of hoodwinking the media about an attempted prison escape tunnel as part of a battle with the prison guards’ union over private vs. public prisons.

    Can anyone tell me if this is legit?

  14. “I’m not going to have a future as a candidate. This is my swan song,” Johnson said in an interview conducted in the drive from his 554-attendee Hollywood rally yesterday afternoon to his appearance on Kimmel.

    “Staying active politically, that interests me, and I hope to have an impact politically. But not as a candidate. That’s done.”

    (checks calendar)

    Isn’t this what he should be saying on November 8th?…. NOT “3 weeks before the election”? Is admitting you’re never going to win supposed to be all “aw-shucksy” and humanize him? or does it sound like he really doesn’t give a shit either way, leaving voters wondering why they should bother with a guy who decides to coast on the last lap?

    1. The sort of voter who might think Johnson has a shot at presidency is probably voting for Trump anyway.

      Johnson and his voters know what they’re about. It’s registering discontent, and perhaps even maybe, possibly flipping a state, but probably not.

      1. some of that might be true, but it doesn’t really address my point about why he’s decided to go into Cruise Control, and act like the contest is over 3 weeks before its actually happened.

        Talking about how you’re “done with politics” 3 weeks BEFORE an election where you are still on the ballots seems to me like intentionally campaigning against yourself.

        1. Actively campaigning against himself has worked for Trump so far, so… maybe it’s not insanity.

          1. No, it’s crashing down around Trump, too.

      2. If ‘Limited Government’ was actually listed on the ballot, that’s what I would choose. As it’s not, my only way to signal my desire for it is by voting for the only candidate that even remotely talks about it and that’s GayJay.

        1. Don’t forget Darrell Castle, whose Constitution Party ticket can get your vote in all but a handful of states. Generally, he’ll either be on the ballot or available as a write-in option.

          1. I honestly haven’t been paying that much attention to him. What I hear is usually from the comment threads here. Sounds pretty good on most things with the exception of drug and abortion prohibition although he seems to recognize the WOD isn’t working. Decriminalization by itself isn’t going to fix the problems. Manufacture and distribution has to taken away from violent gangs. Abortion prohibition is not a good policy either. I would certainly pick him over Clinton, Trump, or Stein.

            1. Ah, well, nobody’s perfect.

              1. (meaning Castle isn’t perfect)

                1. And I’m not expecting anyone to be. I’m looking for progress in the right direction rather than purity.

                  1. (I was riffing on the “purity test” comments I hear from certain quarters, sorry)

                    1. no worries:)

          2. Isn’t he a religious nutjob? I’ll pass.

    2. GayJay coasts out of the starting blocks.

    1. Really, dummy? You can think of no reason why an employer might prefer to hire from the relatively smaller pool of currently employed applicants? Maybe, I don’t know, because they’re motivated enough to seek better prospects? Or because their work habits are current and ongoing? Or because their current employer hasn’t yet folded, and that perhaps reflects well on those seeking new digs?

    2. Adblock-blocked. (And no, searching in Google does not bypass this.)

      1. Shit. It was a link from Yahoo. The guy whiningly asks if not hiring the unemployed is legal. Yeah, dude, if you need the government to help you get a job via legislation (in 2016, even), the problem is you.

        1. Wait…I’m running adblock, and I don’t have any hoops to jump through to see it. It doesn’t look like I have the site white-listed (racist!).

          Weird.

          1. Yeah, Forbes has been blocking me for awhile. Used to be able to click through but now I’m totally cock-blocked.

        2. I do find the topic interesting. I’ve been at my current employer for almost 20 years (!). We got acquired a couple years back, and some of us who stuck around are wondering if there’s a layoff in the near future. Me, I’m doing what I can to make myself valuable to the mothership but jumping ship is certainly an option too.

        3. The guy whiningly asks if not hiring the unemployed is legal.

          You are putting words in his mouth.

          1. How can companies discriminate against unemployed people? That doesn’t seem fair.

            Well, I highly doubt his How question has to do with technique, or what their moral reasoning is, although I suppose that could be. In fact, ol’ Liz addressed the legality of it up front, so the “expert” thought that was his gist.

            If he had a modicum of sense, he would know that people are supposed to have freedom of association, and he’s not entitled to employment with any of these companies.

    3. “How can companies discriminate against unemployed people? That doesn’t seem fair. It’s not my fault I got laid off. Why should I miss out on a job opportunity I’m qualified for just because I’m not currently working?”

      Fair? Discriminate? It’s not your fault? You miss out?

      I think I see the problem. It sounds like this nit is begging his daddy for a job in the family business.

      1. I suspect HR depts adopt this rule just to reduce the number of resumes and applications they have to wade through. The same goes for firms who only interview college grads, even though the work involved does not require a degree, just, maybe, the ability to read English and comprehend it, speak and write it clearly, and other skills that used to be taken for granted a high school graduate would have in decades past. Examples would include a 19th century 8th grader’s facility at doing arithmetic, knowledge of geometry, weights and measures and etiquette. It won’t be news to most Hitters & Runners that firms use software – applicant tracking systems – to auto-reject CVs from candidates who don’t use enough of the magic buzzwords, or who have stuffed the page with them. Nearly 10 years ago, after Amazon ate my market sector, I had a bout of unpaid “vacation.” I got back in the game by using temp agencies, and turned an open-ended assignment into a permanent position. The guy who hired me used to work someplace I temped, and he liked that they had me back several times over a period of two years. That firm varied its headcount based on seasonal needs, but if they thought you stunk they didn’t call you back. One man’s strategy.

        1. Do they auto-reject candidates who don’t break up their overly long paragraphs, too? Because they should.

    4. I would bet cold hard cash that that is a lie.

      A person would never say that even if it were true.

    1. “did you know that Trump has a small dick?”

  15. Kinda wish Gary Johnson went back to saying things like:

    “I don’t believe there should be any restrictions when it comes to firearms. None.”

    “Every time you pass a law, it is a little bite out of freedom.”

    “I think the government should be out of the marriage business and leave marriage to the churches.”

    “I don’t think you’ll ever hear me invoking God in anything I do.”

    “This country would be a better place to live in if all the resources we currently put toward criminalizing marijuana were instead spent by law enforcement on protection from real crime, as opposed to victimless crime.”

    1. But… but I thought we’re meant to take a bite out of crime.

      1. “Quiet, Lisa, the dog is barking!”

  16. SJWs passionately defend the urgent need for people to use the correct pronouns.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP3mSamRbYA

    youtube comment gold: Why was this respectable man debating the cast of Rocky Horror Picture Show??

    1. Use whatever dumb pronouns you like, just make sure your gerund usage is on point.

      1. So under the bill, what happens if you use the “wrong” pronoun?

        1. Your getting it wrong isn’t really a major concern for me.

    2. Had a long talk with my daughter last night, who’s graduating from college in Dec. She’s totally in alignment with we libertarians about this pure idiocy. I’ve done well as far as that’s concerned. She has a complete disdain for SJWs, feminists, and other assorted leftist morons.

    1. Ugh. Bitch Judy is in the sidebar.

  17. Behold the most heavily defended Trump sign in the country:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD4zeynAaC8

    Defenses include a spike strip to prevent the sign from being run over and skunk spray odor to deter thieves.

    1. Love the spike strip, but it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.

    1. That writer has perfected the art of saying absolutely nothing with as many words as possible.

      1. Is it satire? I mean, is that guy really that stupid, or that good at disguising a biting wit?

    2. It’s also hard to accept at face value Lukianoff’s claim that FIRE takes on so many liberals only because most professors and students are liberals, and are therefore behind most campus constraints on free speech. In truth, as I have argued, conservative political correctness doesn’t need to shout as loudly as its “progressive” variant only because it’s already baked into every Economics 101 course and into the premises and protocols of career advancement that the larger society foists on undergraduates.

      “The premises and protocols of career advancement that the larger society foists on undergraduates”. You’re talking about the nasty, evil capitalist white cis-hetero patriarchy, ain’t ya, boy?

    3. (One of FIRE’s biggest funders, the Bradley Foundation, even paid for billboards in black neighborhoods that depicted a black man behind bars and the words, “Voting Fraud is Felony,” a not-so-veiled example of voter intimidation.)

      That’s like saying that a billboard showing a drunk driver behind bars intimidates all drivers.

  18. Why are the environmentalists opposing Washington’s big carbon tax plan? (Yes, it’s Vox.)

    Hints: It’s revenue neutral and they aren’t the ones in charge of it.

    So coalition building is what Washington environmentalists set out to do. They reached out to the three other constituencies they felt would be key: communities of color, labor unions, and climate-friendly businesses.

    That began what would become a years-long series of discussions, exploring the possibilities for collaboration and talking through what kind of policy they could all get behind. “We’ve spent a whole lot of time together,” says Becky Kelley, president of the Washington Environmental Council, “coming to understand, at a pretty deep level, each other’s interests.” It was, by all accounts, an intense, at times difficult, but meaningful process for those involved.

    The Greens got together a coalition to extort the government for a buch of money for various causes, and then the government screwed over the Greens by going ahead and adopting their platform without paying the ransom. Those bastards!

    1. Why would minorities be on board? That makes almost as little sense as trying to recruit unions who might well remember the Keystone project.

      1. The Left has been taking them for granted for decades – why change now.

    2. Because they see all government programs as funding for a patronage system and are pissed that they weren’t there to decide how to divvy up the spoils.

  19. So I am checking in at the airport tonight and the black guy checking me in starts talking to me about the election. He says with a heavy Jamaican accent, “it doesn’t matter that those women are lying. In this country once a white woman gets on TV and starts crying, you are done. Trump is done”

    I don’t know if he is right, but it is hard to argue with his logic. Someone needs to get that guy on the Sunday talk shows.

    1. Someone needs to get that guy on the Sunday talk shows.

      Or at least Youtube.

      1. Yeah, he’d be fun to party with.

      2. He shaved the mullet and is now aspiring to be a motivational speaker. Can’t say the latter is likely to work out but the former’s a good move.

    2. How exactly did this conversation come about?

      “Your bag is 39 pound, mon. You be ight. Here go your ticket. Dem white bitches be crazy, the Trump mon is fucked.”

      “Uh… thanks?”

      1. I walked into the middle of a conversation he was already having with another agent

      2. I walked into the middle of a conversation he was already having with another agent

    3. A Jamaican TSA agent?

      That would make a great sequel to this commercial.

      1. (Disclaimer: I know that Colin Powell is of Jamaican origin, so, yes, the commercial indulges in stereotypes)

        1. (please don’t let it turn out that that commercial was devised by a bunch of soda water-sipping white guys at corporate HQ)

          1. Malibu Rum is produced in Thailand by a company started by a couple of Swedish dudes.

  20. I get this occasionally here on Reason – on reload, the browser redirects to a different page that looks exactly like the Adobe Acrobat update page asking for permission to update but the url is imogeaccessmycardonline.net and then a big long string of numbers. I’ve got no viruses or malware that I can find and google doesn’t return any search results for that url. This only happens on Reason and only occassionally but it just now happened. Is Reason giving up on libertarianism and just going pirate or what?

    1. I’ve got no viruses or malware that I can find

      Find harder.

      1. Rhywun is correct.

    2. It’s a base 64 attack where malicious website is encoded in 64 bit string. It happened to me with reason too. I don’t know what CMS they’re using, and I’m too lazy to look, but if it’s wordpress, there was a vulnerability that allowed malicious script uploads. I had a bunch of these base 64 scripts on a wordpress site I manage. I’ve found that some malicious code scanners don’t detect them too.

    3. Use adblock or ublock on this site. They definitely have scammy/spammy ads that are not trusthworthy. I understand they need to pay bills but they should also value their visitors but using a better ad network.

      1. I block em. But they get a nice big check around Xmas time, so I don’t feel too guilty.

  21. link text“>OK, maybe not all white people are racists, but Trump is turning white kids *into* racists.

    1. Listen: it’s all very simple. All you people need to realize that you’re lying stealing bastards. Just admit it. Why can’t you admit that? You’re getting so defensive because it’s so true. That’s what happens when people raise like you I guess. Such a lying stealing bastard, you can’t even see it.

      1. FUCK YOU OFAY!

      2. I guess some of us don’t ascribe to generational guilt.

        1. Out of convenience!!!

      3. All you people need to realize that you’re lying stealing bastards. Just admit it. Why can’t you admit that?

        I won’t admit it, I state it. You’re lying stealing bastards.

    2. “Ignorance is a lack of information, which creates insecurity; insecurity creates defensiveness, and defensiveness creates attack,”

      Did he just haphazardly plagiarize Yoda from The Phantom Menace?

      Goddamn my soul for that being my initial thought.

      1. “Ignorance is bliss.” Bliss, dumbass, not insecurity.

        1. “where ignorance is bliss, ’tis folly to be wise”
          The correct quote is actually more appropriate to this election, and to this article.

      2. Goddamn my soul for that being my initial thought.

        Now go watch the RLM review ten times and be absolved.

      3. It’s such question begging nonsense.

        you’re all racist.

        You know why you don’t know you’re racist?

        Because you’re ignorant.

        Ignorant of what?

        Ignorant of how what I’m saying is completely true.

        See? You keep disagreeing. It just demonstrates my point.

        It’s so absurd.

        Anyone who nods along with that would nod along at anything.

    3. I really don’t know why I’m passive aggressively fucking with you right now, Eddie. You’re actually one of my favorite commenters.

      Cheers.

    4. Yes, Pastor-identity politics is at the heart of Christianity. It’s such a good idea to deal with people as a collective, as opposed to individuals.

  22. “I have made the cause of children and families really my life’s work.”, according to Democratic Presidential candidate Helen Lovejoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RybNI0KB1bg

  23. Michael John Talaver @iamicoykee
    @GenChuckYeager Sir Chuck, how does it feel to be the first man to break the sound barrier?

    Chuck Yeager ?@GenChuckYeager
    It will never replace sex

  24. Sometimes I listen to Jebus radio for a different perspective. The preacher was talking about proverbs from Solomon. One of them was that there are various useless pursuits, including pleasure, wealth, and knowledge. Pleasure is useless because no matter how much you like something, you will eventually get bored with it. Wealth is useless because sooner or later, someone else who did nothing to earn it will get it. And knowledge is useless because the more you learn, the more you realize how ignorant you are.

    Well, those things might be useless when it comes to eternity, but I’ve found them to be useful in the short run.

    1. I googled something about Catholic entreaties, and landed on some Catholic forum… it was like reading a fantasy role playing game. Someone asked about his sins, and everyone else piled on with various incantations and invocations and things were capitalized and it was like reading a D&D manual.

      1. Do you still have that link?

    2. Yeah, that stuff is a little too debbie downer for me.

      1. That’s a bingo. I thought it was in Proverbs.

        “By the sweat of thy brow shalt thou earn thy bread. And in sorrow thou shalt eat of it.”

        Thanks, God. You’re the life of the party.

    1. Well, they are a bunch of lying sacks of shit. They still don’t get what they deserve. If it were me they would think Trump is head over heels in love with them.

  25. The no-fly and safe zones in Syria should be really easy to enforce; it’s definitely not a complicated situation.

    1. I think peace will come sooner than Crusty finding a Respirating female he’d be unwilling to fuck.

  26. Jesus Christ what happened to SIV?

    1. His boy is going to lose, in all likelihood, and he’s looking for a scapegoat. Any scapegoat aside from the fucking idiot base who nominated the only candidate who could lose to the most easily defeatable (D) candidate since Mondale.

      1. Your boy is going to lose to a CIA/CFR neocon in Utah. A 4th place finish

        1. This is a valid retort? Please. Anyone but the lunatic fringe ever thought voting for the LP nominee would actually topple the two party duopoly this election cycle. And if you did so, you’re a fool.

          I’m voting for the long game. Getting a third party on the ballots across all 50 states for the next election cycle that most closely reflects my philosophical views on how to improve the state of the human condition.

          Your short-term rationale: stop the person I hate from gaining power.

          You’re a truly shallow, fear based creature. Devoid of intellectual principle.

          1. TH wins the internetz this evening.

  27. Black man on his way to work pushes aside idiot BLM protesters blocking highway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cziOFk5n9Fs

    1. its notable that none of the other “protestors” seem to want to lift a finger when Angry-as-fuck-guy starts picking on them individually and assaulting them.

      iow, they love “collective action”, but individually they’re @#()*!@$ pussies that won’t even defend their friends

      if it was a cop, i’m sure they’d mob around with their phones and bleat their slogans; but since its a black guy with a legitimate beef, they have this hilarious scared look on their face, like, “uhm i thought we were homies fam” and “why do you submit to capitalist demands”

      And of course the news program closes by pointing out that cops won’t arrest these people because of terror that they’ll become the latest Oppressors Du Jour.

      1. Fucking Democrat sheep, nothing more. The minute they let the Democrats make this about race, their cause was over.

    2. I actually feel sorry for the Bureau of Land Management for sharing an acronym with these jokers.

      But I bet there are plenty of Bureau of Land Management horror stories.

      1. BLandMan is *nothing* but horror stories. Nah, that’s not completely fair. They graciously condescend to allow us to use a section of open desert to race off-road. As long as no-one sets up a light stand to illuminate the area – *that* requires a permit for an ‘event’.

  28. That sounded a little sour, I suggest. “Not sour, no,” he corrects me. It’s like the old Gandhi adage. “First they ignore you, well, I’ve experienced that. They they make fun of you, OK, I sure went through that phase. Then they attack you. I’m now in that phase. Hey, that’s not fun but that’s the process by which you win, and in my case maybe not win election but Libertarians will win in upcoming cycles and maybe I contributed to that.

    Unfortunately, that’s not how it works in the leftist utopias to which we seem to be headed. There it’s

    First they ignore you.
    Then they make fun of you.
    Then they attack you.
    Then they kill you.

    1. Eh, I like Harry Browne’s take better. He said that there may come a time when there’s govt spy camera in every room, but it will probably be broken most of the time.

  29. No blood or gore in this one, but still a bit of a disturbing video:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=391_1178060828

  30. There’s no future for the libertarian party in the current duopoly. The 2 teams have merged into one gargantuan statist beast that is going to crush and stomp the last vestiges of life out of anything that gets in it’s path. The rule of law is dead and tyranny is at the doorstep. Sorry, founders, we failed to keep the Republic.

    1. Eh, I keep saying things were way worse during FDR’s time and the country recovered. As the not so great Boris Yeltsin once said, you can make a throne out of bayonets, but you can’t sit on it forever.

      Cheer up. The USSR is RIP. You can legally smoke weed for fun in 4 states. Donuts are plentiful.

      1. And there are so many laws that all of us are felons. Our so called ‘leaders’ openly mock laws that we will be sent to a rape cage for. It’s never been worse since I’ve been alive. The 70s were a libertarian paradise compared to now.

        1. And speaking of weed, you could pretty much smoke it legally in ALL states back in the 70s. It was supposedly illegal, but I’d never known anyone or even heard of anyone being arrested for it. Let alone militarized jackbooted goon squads bashing down people’s doors at 4am in the morning and burning up babies with flash bang grenades.

          1. I think police brutality got a lot less coverage back then.

            1. There wasn’t as much of it. Yes, there was some, but not like now. Maybe they roughed people up and were assholes, but I don’t think they typically beat up old women, shot dogs and people, like they do now.

              1. This graph says police shoot fewer people these days:
                http://images.huffingtonpost.c…..ficers.jpg

                1. I think that graph might just be for NYC. I know there are usually about 500 fatal police shootings per year.

        2. I forgot to mention there’s no draft anymore. That’s a pretty big win. And things like the internet make it much harder for politicians to get away with anything. Plus it allows libertarians to easily find like-minded people to chat with.

          1. “And things like the internet make it much harder for politicians to get away with anything”

            Seems like that is having zero effect on Hillary. Yeah, they get caught. And then nothing happens to them.

            1. Oh, I get the feeling she’ll get what’s coming to her:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WckgnvrUh8A

              1. My god that awful face is horrifying, I mean macabre like terrifying. She’s pure fucking evil. I shudder to think what this country and the world will look like after 4 years of that.

              2. “She’ll get what’s coming to her”

                You mean strapped to a heavy lift rocket and fired into the sun?

                1. I would settle for her being marched naked through an angry throwing rotten fruit while someone rings a bell yelling “shame!”

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4_0OuC4A24

              3. Oh, I get the feeling she’ll get what’s coming to her:

                We pay our debt sometime…

        3. The 1970s were a libertarian paradise for any era since the Gilded Age.

          1. Except for the gas rationing, I suppose. Or The Phone Company.

            “We’re the Phone Company. We don’t care. We don’t have to.”

            1. Or Nixon’s price fixing, but SIV is stupid that way. Ask him about Trump.

            2. At least we had comedy back then.

              member Taxi…I love to member Taxi

  31. Just think about the future of libertarian ideas in this way. Let’s use Reason as a sort of indicator of the bigger picture.

    How many good news stories for liberty have you seen here in the last 5 years?

    How many nut punches, or double nut punches in comparison?

    There you have it.

  32. I just tweeted Chuck Yeager because why not? He’s infamously pithy but FFS why is it even permissible to “tweet” at a national icon? Fuck this country.

    1. Because we’re America, and Chuck is the tits.

      1. He’s hilariously curt. I love it.

  33. Liliana . if you think Lawrence `s blog is incredible, I just purchased a new Honda after earning $5741 this – 4 weeks past and also 10 grand lass month . it’s by-far the most-comfortable job I have ever done . I started this four months/ago and almost immediately began to make minimum $85… p/h .

    see this……………. http://www.BuzzNews10.com

  34. Liliana . if you think Lawrence `s blog is incredible, I just purchased a new Honda after earning $5741 this – 4 weeks past and also 10 grand lass month . it’s by-far the most-comfortable job I have ever done . I started this four months/ago and almost immediately began to make minimum $85… p/h .

    see this……………. http://www.BuzzNews10.com

  35. Random thought: If you’re bored, post this on Daily Kos or ThinkProgress:

    “We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation.”

    …and see how many upvotes and positive responses you get before someone checks who wrote it.

    1. “Incorporating him in the state organism”

      That doesn’t sound very desirable to me.

      1. To you, but to a TPer or a Kossak?

    1. Call me “overpriveleged”…

      1. Alternate joke:

        “OK, which of you lucky dogs will help me cure my disability?”

  36. Please go away Gary. You are a terrible spokesman for liberty. I consider myself a libertarian and I will not be voting for you because you have no principles. No consistency. I cannot encourage the libertarian party to put you or another candidate like you as the nominee.

  37. I will continue to argue that a Trump victory is best for libertarianism. Compared to Hillary, we’d likely get a number of good things:

    a better Supreme Court
    the end of Obamacare
    a slap in the face to SJWs
    a huge rebuke to the establishments of both parties
    a big defeat for a biased, leftist media
    a president with some appreciation of free markets
    increased scrutiny of executive privilege
    fewer anti-libertarian and welfare-using immigrants

    Plus, from chaos comes opportunity. A Trump win would be a blow to both main parties. Time for realignments!

    1. PapayaSF|10.21.16 @ 12:33AM|#
      “I will continue to argue that a Trump victory is best for libertarianism. Compared to Hillary, we’d likely get a number of good things:”

      Fine.
      Disregarding he’s better for L’ism than the hag like Hitler was preferable to Stalin, I give him a chance slightly ahead of Johnson and if I were to vote for the blowhard, I’d have to take a shower immediately afterward.

    2. We won’t get a better SC – the Democrats get a vote also.
      We won’t get an end to Obamacare – too many people getting subsidies to try to take their plate away. Best you can hope for is that Ocare will be continually mutated by Executive branch actions (not legislation), worst case is single payer.
      SJW’s like being slapped in the face – its allows them to yell ‘help, help, I’m being oppressed!’ while looking around to see how many people are paying attention to them.


      Trump has no appreciation for free markets. Free markets get in the way of Trump doing what Trump wants to do.

      Hahahahahahahahahaha! No – you’ll see as much action on illegal (and legal) immigration during a Trump presidency as you saw on the Drug War during the Obama one.

  38. Was having a little convo with the current sex partner.
    She said something, i replied that I was concerned about Hillary’s positions regarding Syria.
    All of a sudden, I’m being called a misogynist. I wasn’t floored and speechless, that’s not really my style. Instead, i got hot, insulted, pissed off. From zero to sixty in about point five seconds.
    Fuck that bitch. Want to call me sexist? Want to call me racist? Because the people who want to impose tyranny over me happen to be female or a minority?
    I’m so over that shit. I can’t believe how mad i got, and how quickly. I’m over it.
    Think about how bubba feels? How much longer can the proggies keep this up before this country bursts into flame.
    Yeah vote Hillary: she’s got a vagina, and she’s not an icky Republican!
    It’s her loss; I’m an accomplished lover.

    1. Don’t you want to be a male Hillary supporter like these guys?

      1. “”It’s funny, because even my wife sometimes will say things like, ‘Well, I don’t know,'” Mr. Manning said. “And I say, ‘What are you talking about?’ Everyone says it’s the best of bad choices. But she’s the best choice of anyone. I believe that this notion that people have when they say, ‘She’s better than Trump,’ is a joke.”

        “Many conversations he has had during the 2016 campaign have tested his patience.

        “”I end up getting really upset,” he said. “I say, ‘Well, you’re being sexist.’ People will say they aren’t, and I say, ‘Well, tell me why you’re not.’ But people don’t want to have that conversation. And because I get so wound up about it and can get pretty righteous, people just want the conversation to be over. I don’t think I change anybody’s mind. But I think I shut them up.””

        1. If that bitch was a man, I’d hit him so hard that his momma would hurt. I’m over it. I’m done. The next time somebody calls me a racist, or a misogynist, or anything phobic, I’m just going to punch them in the throat.

  39. Alright. Enough with the bickering.
    Vote for Hillary if you want a shooting war with Russia over Syria.
    Vote for Trump if you want a trade war with China.
    Vote for Johnson/Weld if you want the LP to get more stolen taxpayer money.
    Vote for Jill Stein if you are a crazed, communist watermelon.

    I am going to pull the Trump lever, because it is the biggest “Fuck You” Vote I have ever seen in my life.

    1. Well Jimmy, we continue to be in complete agreement.

    1. Nice pat he gives her as he walks by. It’s an exclusive club and you are not in it.

    2. Haha, this is pretty funny. Brutal.

    3. Mean while this is what the rest of America is feeling. all Hyperbole of course. =D

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2I2mK_3_ns

      1. Heh, I haven’t listened to CoC in like 15 years. Thanks.

  40. Sorry, Gary. The party, and the movement, have been destroyed by Ron Paul and his extreme socon cult who swallows his bullshit that the Supreme Court has no power to defend individual rights,

    Or the utter SHAME of sponsoring a bill to forbid the Supreme Court from even considering any challenges to DOMA …the first such denial of individual rights to anyone since Jim Crow.

    Or his gullible cult when he defends DOMA … a intrusive federal government denying states rights … while claiming to be defending federalism as a strict constitutional conservative.

    The Party Of Principle that has no principles, Any mote.

    1. Good morning, Mike! Your dramatic bullshit is better than my morning espresso. Cin cin.

      1. (deep bow of gratitude) Cannot challenge a single issue. Thus proving my point.

  41. Sorry to get on topic, but – – –
    “open to debate about ways to keep weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill and terrorists.”
    Arrest, try, convict, and jail the terrorists. Confine the mentally ill if they are a danger to others.
    Next question?

  42. Kevin Patten: Dude, if you’re voting for Trump, you’re not anywhere in the vicinity of the root.

  43. I’m voting for Johnson hoping he gets the 5% threshold. Get on the ballot and 5% is enough for other to take notice of Libertarian views.

    After 8 years of Bush and 8 years of Obama and 4 years whatever I’m hoping Winston Churchill’s quote (I know it’s out of context) may be proven right.

    “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing – after they’ve tried everything else.”

  44. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….

    …….. http://www.jobprofit9.com

  45. Ellie . true that Susan `s blurb is good… I just purchased a gorgeous Fiat Panda sincee geting a check for $8891 this-last/4 weeks and also ten grand last-month . this is actually the most financialy rewarding Ive had . I started this 9-months ago and right away was bringin in at least $87, per-hour .

    see……………. http://www.BuzzNews10.com

  46. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….

    …….. http://www.jobprofit9.com

  47. Liliana . if you think Lawrence `s blog is incredible, I just purchased a new Honda after earning $5741 this – 4 weeks past and also 10 grand lass month . it’s by-far the most-comfortable job I have ever done . I started this four months/ago and almost immediately began to make minimum $85… p/h .

    see this……………. http://www.BuzzNews10.com

  48. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….

    …….. http://www.jobprofit9.com

  49. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….

    …….. http://www.jobprofit9.com

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