New York City

Don't Blame AirBnb For New York City's High Rents

High rents have been a problem a lot longer then Airbnb has existed.

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New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio touts his commitment to improving New Yorkers' access to affordable housing. His new plan, dubbed the most aggressive in the nation, requires developers building in certain areas to set aside a portion of units that will be available below market price for lower-income residents.

The mayor's desire to take action is warranted, as New Yorkers spend nearly two-thirds of their income on housing. While de Blasio has identified a real problem, his preferred solutions will not work. His commitment to failed policies and rejection of new solutions will only exacerbate the housing crises.

One example of this misguided approach is de Blasio's promise to spend $10 million on enforcement of a 2010 amendment to the city's Multiple Dwelling Law that bans short-term rentals on platforms such as AirBnb if the tenant is absent. City officials claim that these rentals are being used to set up "illegal hotels" that limit the supply of affordable housing for residents.

Outrageous rent in New York City is nothing new, but the alleged culprit—AirBnb—did not launch until 2008, though the city's rent problem can be dated back to the 1980s. How exactly has AirBnb been squeezing housing options for New Yorkers since before its creation? The short answer is that it has not. In a mind-boggling case of government dishonesty, the mayor and city council are blaming problems created by years of government overreach on the new guy in town.

Consider a 2003 National Bureau of Economic Research study by Harvard University professor Ed Glaeser on rent prices in Manhattan. The study found that land use regulations, such as "quantity controls, myriad zoning rules, or taxes and fees" heavily limit and increase the costs of new construction. Back in 2002, this created a regulatory burden for the median condo in Manhattan that accounted for 56 percent of the construction price. The study also concluded that for half of Manhattan condo dwellers, regulations cost at least $5,500 a year. For others, the cost was even higher.

Land use regulations prevent denser construction and building more units onto existing buildings. Construction regulations have increased in scale and scope and are now so overreaching that 40 percent of the buildings in Manhattan could not have been built today. With today's high level of restrictions on how builders can meet New York's housing demand, it is no wonder that rents are high.

Land use regulations are not the only devastating housing policies on the books in New York City. Rent control and rent stabilization both increase rents for those who are not lucky enough to access an eligible apartment. Not only are these tenants harder to evict, but they are also more likely not to move.

On one street in Manhattan with controlled and uncontrolled units, 35 percent of controlled units had the same tenant for over 20 years while less than 3 percent of tenants paying the market rate had been there that long. Tenants who are able to stay in subsidized homes that they may not need only exacerbate the housing shortage.

De Blasio's plan would drive up rents in the same way as does rent control. His plan recommends that the rent for a two-bedroom apartment be set at $775, while the median market rent for a comparable apartment is $4,700. Developers will not simply cut their losses on the portion of units that must be made available at a lower rate. Instead, they will pass their costs along to tenants in uncontrolled units. Rents go up, market forces are distorted, and the crisis continues.

Furthermore, AirBnb is simply not a large enough operation to have an effect on housing prices. AirBnb currently has 41,000 listings in New York City. This is just over one percent of the three million housing units in the city. Even if every AirBnb listing were filled year-round by tourists or business travelers, it is not possible for such a small fraction of available housing to push up rents in any noticeable way.

In an attempt to give validity to their war against AirBnb, city leaders try to portray home sharing as a net loss of 41,000 housing opportunities for locals and a tax-free paycheck for wealthy scammers. The claim that AirBnb users set up so-called illegal hotels and turn entire apartment complexes into unregulated temporary residences paints a dark picture of home sharing. After all, what could possibly be a better narrative for de Blasio than the rich cutting corners at the expense of the poor?

Reality is more positive for AirBnb. Instead of a platform for the rich, AirBnb is an asset to the poor and middle class. The average AirBnb host makes about $5,500 a year from the service, money that 76 percent of users say helps them stay in their homes or apartments. Most devastating to the city's narrative of illegal hotels is that 90 percent of New York City hosts rent out their permanent home.

The hypocrisy of the present situation is astounding. De Blasio, in his push to help low-income New Yorkers find affordable housing, proposes the same policies that have been raising rents since the 1980s. At the same time, he is limiting opportunities for low-income New Yorkers to afford the high rents that government caused.

Living in Manhattan will always be more expensive than living in rural Oklahoma. But that is no excuse for New York City policymakers to drive housing costs even higher. If de Blasio truly wants to help low-income New Yorkers, he should not regulate away a source of extra income. Similarly, there is no way to combat the housing affordability crisis without expanding the supply of housing. It is not AirBnb that causes high rents, but politicians.

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    4. Not the taxi lobby?

  2. Rent control, gun control…it’s almost like “control” is the problem here.

    1. I see what you doubled up on there.

    2. Feature, not a bug.

  3. Rent seeking missiles! That’ll fix ’em.

    1. How about a different kind of missile?

      Urban Guerrillas – Attack of the Pink Heat Seeking Moisture Missiles

      Minneapolis, circa 1985. Beyond obscure, but awesome.

    2. Naw, the Clinton Foundation has the monopoly on rent-seeking. They’d never let such missiles be made–too much competition.

  4. The city’s rent problems can be traced back to the 1980s???????

    How about the fucking 60s, or at least the early 70s. I grew up an hour and a half or so upstate from throughout the 1970s up until 1980. We were close enough that we got all the city TV channels. And ever since I was old enough to watch TV I knew that rent in the city was ridiculous.

    1. Rent control started during World War II. So you can trace it back to then.

      1. I think that’s why progs like great wars; not so much for the “stimulus,” but because of all the statist interventions in the economy. Easier to justify price controls, governmental ownership of the means of production, government demand replacing individual demand, etc., when the war demands it.

        1. War is the health of the State. Only when the State is at war does the modern society function with that unity of sentiment, simple uncritical patriotic devotion, cooperation of services, which have always been the ideal of the State lover. – Randolph Bourne, The State

          If you figured that out by yourself, CW, good on ya! Bourne’s quote is from 1918, in the aftermath of “The Great War.”
          ,

          1. Mussolini must have read him.

      2. Ummm. Try again. Rent problems as a serious political problem started in at least the 1886 mayors campaign – when Henry George ran for mayor (finished second – and probably won in a fair election) campaigning on his land tax – Why should there be such abject poverty and destitution in this city on the one side and such wealth on the other? There is one great fact that stares in the face anyone who chooses to look at it. That fact is that the vast majority of men and women and children in New York have no legal right to live here at all. Most of us?99 per cent at least?must pay the other one per- cent by the week or month or quarter for the privilege of staying here and working here.

        And it is probably no coincidence that soon thereafter, the Dems locally moved overtly to ethnic-based politics (cheaper to buy half the votes than all of them). Or why the property-owning class very quickly moved to financing the creation of a new political ideology (Progressives) that would advocate an income-based tax (that they can easily avoid paying – see Donald Trump) rather than risk the existing ideology (Populism) with its hatred of monopoly turning to the land monopoly.

        1. How is it that the 99% can be beholden to the 1% when elections are won by a majority of votes?

          No matter how powerful the landowning class may be, they cannot exert greater force over the government than the masses. Elections are won by votes, not dollars or acres.

          1. They got the income tax instead of the land/location tax. That is a massive victory for the rentier class – esp if you read George’s economics (where he does the classical thing of having three factors) instead of his overreaching policy stuff. We don’t even think of a land tax anymore (property tax isn’t the same thing).

            And it doesn’t matter who wins the elections if you are able to control both sides (Progressives were both R’s and D’s back then – and from Rockefeller to TR to Wilson) – and control the agenda – and set off one group against another to divide et impera – and use well-understood knowledge of psychology/etc to subsume the individual/rational to the mass/animal (we humans are both). Adam Curtis (a BBC filmmaker) has some serious ideological shortcomings and blindspots (he’s a left-libertarian who misinterprets some right-libertarian ideas) – but two of his long documentaries do a good job of showing how far through the rabbit-hole we’ve come.

            Century of the Self – https://youtu.be/eJ3RzGoQC4s
            The Trap (part 1 of 3) – https://youtu.be/y97Ywl7RtUw

  5. Rent is high because lots of people with high income want to live there and space is limited
    Even if housing policies were different housing would probably still be expensive because it’s a confined geographic area and massive sky scrapers aren’t cheap.

    1. And artificially lowering the price causes artificial scarcity while doing nothing to increase supply. Who knew that increasing demand while keeping supply constant would cause shortages? Bad luck, I guess.

      1. What they need is much smaller apartments, maybe 200 square feet. These would certainly be cheaper.

    2. That is true of some parts of New York. Rents on Central Park West or Greenwich Village should absent a 1970s like city meltdown always be high but New York is huge. Rents in the less fashionable parts of Manhattan or out in the boroughs should not be sky high and only are because of New York’s idiotic landlord tenant laws.

    3. But we all have a fundamental right to live in Midtown Manhattan! How are all 320 million of us going to be able to fit? We’re gonna need lots and lots of rent control I think.

  6. The important thing is that “we” find a bogeyman to blame. Without bogeyman, real issues would be illuminated.

    1. DeBlasio is the bogeyman.

  7. The authors’ very premise is wrong, even if they agree that AirBnB isn’t the problem. The mayor HAS to take action on the rent crisis. Nobody has the right to live wherever they want, and pay whatever they want. You want to live where a bunch of other people want to live, and there is no room to spread out, guess what? Supply is fixed and demand is high. Of course it will be expensive to live there. Then you have rent control which so badly distorts the price, and the whole thing goes off the rails.

    I am not an economist, but anyone with any basic education should know that price is the mechanism which communicates between supply and demand. If you distort the pricing mechanism, the communication between supply and demand becomes distorted. The details are often unpredictable, but the general result is generally easy to predict: the market gets fucked up and its usually the poor (particularly those who are working, trying not to take govt handouts) who get fucked the worst. Because they have the least cushion to absorb the impact of these fuck ups.

    1. Scooped by a minute…

    2. anyone with any basic education should know that price is the mechanism which communicates between supply and demand

      So beautifully naive

      1. Yes I know. But the word I used was “should”. A man can dream can’t he?

        I know:

        You can wish in one hand, and crap in the other. See which one fills up first.

        1. I’d recommend saving at least one hand for other activities.

          1. The wish hand is still technically free for other tasks. Unless you find a genie, but then you just wish for more hands.

        2. “You can wish in one hand, and crap in the other.”

          … And then you can WISH that you didn’t just shit in your own hand.

          1. Not at all. Now you just gave yourself something to throw at the other primates.

          2. The usual solution, of course, is to shit in someone else’s hand.

    3. anyone with any basic education should know that price is the mechanism which communicates between supply and demand

      I sometimes think that prices and money are the most beautiful invention ever. They encapsulate so much information in one simple tidy package. The price of oranges went up because it’s the time of year where they have to come from far away? You don’t need to know whether that is because truckers got a pay raise, gasoline taxes went up, or they are being flown in from the other hemisphere. You simply decide if the higher price makes apples a better deal, and the producers get the message.

      If there’s any blasphemy these days, subverting supply and demand with wage and price controls ought to be in the top ten.

      1. Well said. Hayek’s warning of the “fatal conceit” is as apt as ever.

    4. The only problem I have with this analysis is the assertion that supply is fixed. It doesn’t have to be, but it is in effect because of government controls.

      1. There is an interesting interplay between zoning and tax revenue. If the government opened up supply by relaxing zoning rules, then there would be less money to spend on social programs.

        1. Thats makes no sense. Tax revenue would go up.

  8. “The mayor’s desire to take action [on high rent] is warranted, as New Yorkers spend nearly two-thirds of their income on housing.”

    Bullshit. His action is not warranted. People can choose to pay whatever they please for housing.

    1. Didn’t say his action was warranted. Said his desire to take action was warranted. Might be slightly out of tune, that wording, but it’s not wrong, it’s not some Statist apologia..

      1. I gotcha nuance rights heeya *grabs crotch*.

        #Ey,I’mWalkinHere

  9. Perhaps the rent crisis will sort itself out as more and more people realize they don’t *have* to live in NYC – they can telecommute from elsewhere, or work in a more business-friendly state.

    Just speculation on my part.

    1. Not speculation…just kookie talk!!!!

      1. I am hungry for cookies. Who wants cake cookies?

        1. How about an Oreo…I mean Mr. President cupcake. You get the best of both worlds.

    2. more and more people realize they don’t *have* to live in NYC

      The record population figures seem to indicate that more and more people *want* to live in NYC.

        1. Oh, it’s a good idea. I’ve thought of it myself – except the reason I live in NYC is because I want to live in NYC. I don’t live in a trendy neighborhood or pay anywhere near those stratospheric rents that always get tossed around but it’s still “the city”.

    3. “In other news, people have decided that the California weather just isn’t worth the bullshit. Decent parts of the country hardest hit.”

  10. Have we covered Minnesoda Nice yet?

    1. Dude. Black guy? In Edina?

      Color me skeptical.

      1. Color me skeptical.

        So racist.

      2. Yeah, I wasn’t too surprised that the Cake Eater cop pulled over a black guy.

        What a piece of shit that cop is.

    2. Is that nice or not-so-nice?

    3. Should have offered the guy tater tot hotdish.

      1. “tater tot hotdish”

        You are being redundant

  11. requires developers building in certain areas to set aside a portion of units that will be available below market price for lower-income residents minions working for de Blasio.

    FTFY.

  12. Headlines blurting Russian nuke launches twenty-six days before an iconic presidential election is an anxiety-activating exercise in how to manufacture hysteria for votes… votes for a motherfucking blackwidow grandmother who has magic anti-Russia powers glittering off her wizard cloak.

    Beware the screaming letters and I hold no special regard for the goddamn Russians.

    1. AC is the Mencken of our time.

      Bravo, dude.

      1. If AC lived in DC, he would be AC/DC.

        1. *AC, DC

          1. He is already AC / DC, and the inverter is attached to his pee pee. So as you can see, bow down on one knee and listen to our resident poet with glee.

      2. AC resembles Mencken the way an Orangutan resembles a swordfish; both perfectly valid creatures, but not the same species.

  13. Rent is too damn high eh? Progressive problem only.

    1. Rent will always be too high, which is why progressives have a handy formula for resolving the problem of too-high rent: 1) limit stock; 2) respond to shortages with subsidies and mandates; 3) rent continues to climb, so: 4) respond to shortages with subsidies and mandates. Repeat 3) and 4) until voters revolt.

  14. In a mind-boggling completely normal and totally expected case of government dishonesty

    FIFY

  15. I absolutely loathe the description of “problems which have existed as long as i have lived” as “Crises

    That’s entirely separate from the fact that the so-called ‘Crises’ are in fact the very predictable outcome of the previous-generation’s “Solutions” to some other invented ‘crisis’

  16. Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. $4700 a month for a two bedroom apartment? That’s insane. Especially to live in a police state like NYC.
    I mean, rent doubled in Denver when I was gone, but, it ain’t no $4700 a month, and you get to live in Denver.

    1. Guaranteed that doesn’t include a parking sport or veranda.

    2. Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. $4700 a month for a two bedroom apartment?

      A 3br Riverside Drive apartment my family lived in ~early 1970s for $500 a month…. now rents for $22,000 a month

      true, when we lived there, it was the backdrop for the film “Death Wish”, but still.

  17. This seems like news:

    In yet another stunning blow to the #ExxonKnew campaign, a federal judge today issued a discovery order against Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey to determine whether “bias or prejudgment” influenced her decision to initiate a “bad faith” investigation into ExxonMobil, just days after she appeared before news cameras with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, Al Gore and other Democratic state attorneys general in New York.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/201…..-campaign/

    1. It should be entertaining to observe, at least.

  18. This seems like news:

    In yet another stunning blow to the #ExxonKnew campaign, a federal judge today issued a discovery order against Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey to determine whether “bias or prejudgment” influenced her decision to initiate a “bad faith” investigation into ExxonMobil, just days after she appeared before news cameras with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, Al Gore and other Democratic state attorneys general in New York.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/201…..-campaign/

    1. this “new discovery order could open the door for an intrusive examination of Maura Healey ‘s internal phone records, other communications and depositions,” shedding light on the extent to which Healey, Schneiderman and others have conspired with outside activists, plaintiff attorneys and partisan political interests to carry out their failed #ExxonKnew campaign.

      Cue the “our email was hacked” and we lost some hard drives and IT people accidentally ‘wiped’ some stuff….

      1. Maybe. This judge doesn’t seem inclined to go along with the bullshit, though.

        1. I’m certain a terse phone call from the Obama administration, or perhaps even the Clinton campaign, might set him straight.

          1. That’s the kind of meddling that could backfire badly. Judges may buckle to political pressure, sure, but they can also get a serious case of the arse with people trying it, and are frequently in a position to raise bloody hell.

            “Judge cites attempts to influence his court, charges Candidate Clinton with contempt of court. Clinton will be in jail for election.”

            1. I think you’re underestimating how incredible terse some phone calls can be.

      1. “During Attorney General Healey’s speech, she stated that “[f]ossil fuel companies that deceived investors and consumers about the dangers of climate change should be, must be, held accountable.” Attorney General Healey then went on to state that, “[t]hat’s why I, too, have joined in investigating the practices of ExxonMobil. We can all see today the troubling disconnect between what Exxon knew, what industry folks knew, and what the company and industry chose to share with investors and with the American public.”

        Honestly, although Healy dials it up to 11, it seems like this is kind of the standard M.O. of any AG or AAG, top to bottom. Predetermined conclusion and overreach. I wish it wasn’t this way.

        1. While appointed AGs have their own slate of problems (see: Reno, Gonzales, Holder, Lynch, et al.), I’m convinced that elected AGs are worse. They have every incentive to grandstand and no more accountability for corruption or malfeasance.

  19. Why doesn’t Reason cover this?!?!?!?!? Pamela Anderson visits WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London… laden down with snacks and a copy of Vivienne Westwood’s new book

    Apparently braless, Pamela walked into the embassy with the outline of her nipples prominently on show.

    Is Pam working for Trump who is working for the Russians? Has she used her hypnotic nipples to brainwash Assange into becoming Putin’s puppet?

    I would like the answer to those questions, but Reason will not cover this story!

    1. Yes, yes, and yes. According to the Hillary campaign, Trump, Putin, and Assange are the the new axis of evil. Not sure where the nips fit into this.

      1. I think it’s pretty obvious where the nips fit in. Open your eyes, man!

        1. Careful, you’ll put an eye out with those nips.

      2. Trump, Putin, and Assange are the the new axis of evil.

        All committed rapists.

      3. I think Kid Rock is the connection.

    2. Pay attention mammals, that is true team player

  20. This is in most cities on both coasts now. I think they call it gentrification. But you can totally escape this by living in a lovely ghetto near you. Risks are greatly exaggerated because racism. I know a lady who moved to the ghetto and was only robbed 5 times and had her car stolen twice in the first month. But only because she’s a racist. Here in Baltimore you can rent a house for $50 a month in one of these lovely ghettos as opposed to the $1500-3000 a month in the whiter more desirable locations. If people weren’t such racists, they would quit bitching about rent and just get with da hood, baby. Don’t support racist gentrification, move to a ghetto near you today!

    1. You’re not being hyperbolic with the $50/mo figure?

      1. Maybe–I’ve seen apartment buildings from the viewpoint Baltimore light rail that look like they’re held together by duct tape and wishes. Wouldn’t be surprised if their rent was pretty low, although probably not $50 low.

        1. You would be wrong about the rent. Section 8 drives the value of properties in poor neighborhoods. The apartment that would otherwise go for $50 is $500 cash or $1000 with a section 8 voucher. The $50 is what the voucher passer still has to pay the landlord. Combine this with city governments that want insane prices for brownfields(There is an empty lot near me that is for sale by the city for $60k when the houses on either side sell in the $60-80k range) and we get decay. Section 8 landlords tend to only care about keeping the government check. Actually investing some to improve the property is not a priority.

      2. You can buy a row home there for $5, no I am not being hyperbolic. It’s like something out of the fucking apocalypse though. You can try if you want to.

        1. Christ, that is cheaper than a lot of things I’ve read about in Detroit. In its own way, it sounds attractive to buy up deed to the property (and land), and just sit on it for a few decades to see what happens.

        2. Is this the kind of thing you’re talking about?

          1. Hahaha, this completely reminds me of when I was driving south to visit my father in Virginia 10 years ago, and I somehow got off on a wrong exit to downtown Baltimore that was clearly not good. It was just as you described, like something out of Omega Man, where the only signs of life were a scrapper wheeling around a shopping cart and a whole lotta bad juju feelz. I knew I shouldn’t be there immediately and just burned an illegal U-turn just to GTFO.

        3. I haven’t really explored the market in Baltimore. In Pittsburgh those houses go for just over the savings limit for welfare. When the limit was $2000 section 8 landlords sold their properties for $2500 to qualified(meaning someone who will keep it a section 8 rental) buyers.

    2. “… was only robbed 5 times and had her car stolen twice in the first month.”

      And besides, the thieves were just the helpless victims of capitalism and income inequality, so it’s only fair that they be allowed to provide for themselves.

  21. Why “Conservative” portfolios should have owned equity since 2008:

    Chief Pump-Primer Says Constant Pumping May Be “New Normal”

    The Federal Reserve may need to run a “high-pressure economy” to reverse damage from the 2008-2009 crisis that depressed output, sidelined workers, and risks becoming a permanent scar, Fed Chair Janet Yellen said on Friday in a broad review of where the recovery may still fall short.

    Yellen, …said the question was whether that damage can be undone “by temporarily running a ‘high-pressure economy,’ with robust aggregate demand and a tight labor market.”

    “One can certainly identify plausible ways in which this might occur,” she said.

    Yellen’s comments, while posed as questions that need more research, still add an important voice to an intensifying debate within the Fed over whether economic growth is close enough to normal to need steady interest rate increases, or whether it remains subpar and scarred, a theory pressed by Harvard economist and former U.S. Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, among others.

    Her remarks jarred the U.S. bond market on Friday afternoon, where they were interpreted as perhaps a willingness to allow inflation to run beyond the Fed’s 2.0 percent target. Prices on longer dated U.S. Treasuries, which are most sensitive to inflation expectations, fell sharply and their yields shot higher.

    1. So in other words, the economy still sucks and is only artificially propped up by government spending. Meanwhile none of the normal tools the Fed uses to “fix” the economy works therefore nothing will ever “fix” the economy and this is the new normal. We can’t just see if the economy would recover on its own because that means we really have no control over the economy and that just can’t be true.

      1. “new normal” Fuck, do I hate that term. It’s like “problematic”, a vague, ambiguous, term that progressives use to explain away things they don’t like…

    2. It means they’re in a fiscal trap. The illusion of control is just about over.

    3. Well, this would be fine if the ‘high-pressure economy’ actually was leading to robust aggregate demand and a tight labor market.

      Unfortunately, it’s leading to 94M people out of the labor force, 1.5% GDP growth, and significant inflation hidden from government statistics.

      Hmm. high unemployment, high inflation, low growth? It seems that there’s a word to define such a situation. Dangit, my degree in econometrics is letting me down again. (/sarc)

  22. I had a prog acquaintance couple of years ago, who went on about racism, diversity, multi-culturalism, taxes are too low, suburbs are bad, on and on. So what did the guy do? Moved out of the city into one of the whitest neighborhoods in the area. I asked him about that, ‘Why did you do that, why aren’t you supporting one of the more diverse upcoming neighborhoods in the city where taxes are 2x more?’. What did he say? ‘Oh, I agree people should be doing that, but I can’t right now, I have children now! SCHOOLZ!

    1. If the schools were privatized, or even if there were a choice program he could get his kids into, he wouldn’t have to be a White In Flight, assuming he is white. Maybe he’s a person of more melanin, in which case he’s promoting integration? (But, I wouldn’t bet that way.)

      1. Agreed. It’s easier to show how cosmopolitan and tolerant you are, and virtue signal and support Hillary’s virtue signalling policies when they don’t affect you.

      2. He’s whiter than ivory, bro.

        1. It is what it is. Many times people don’t actually care about being diverse, they just want to join in on the circlejerk of companies and people congratulating each other about how tolerant and multicultural they are.

    2. Always fun to see people write themselves exemptions from living out their own worldview.

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  24. While Obama & Clinton moan about “hacking” and their failed interventions, Russia is actually being strategic

    There is this ridiculous notion that America had some damaged credibility/influence during the Bush years, and that Obama et al managed to “save” our reputation, or some similar lefty fantasy…

    the reality is that the Iraq War / WoT wasnt particularly damaging for the US – and in fact it involved a great deal of cooperation with the russians/pakistanis/turks/israelis/europeans etc. relations with whom have mostly waned or fallen apart in the ensuing years.

    we’ve seen a complete dissolution of American diplomatic influence during the Obama years, mainly because he and his admin have always seen FP as a marketing tool for domestic politics. Hes utterly unconcerned with the actual effects of US diplomacy or use of force – he just cares how it “Looks” in the near term. Which is why his main approach to warfare has been, “Look like you’re doing *something*, while never committing to anything” – that way you can never be blamed for failure. Because you had no goals. And you cant be blamed for “ignoring” things either. Its ideal for domestic critics – but the worst possible halfway-approach for international relations. Result: No one trusts our word, or believes we’ll back up threats.

    1. I blame Trump for this. You see, Putin is helping Trump get elected by hacking all of Hillary’s unsecured emails and giving them to Julian Assange to publish, so that later Trump and Putin can start WW3 and destroy the world! Only Hillary can save us!

      /progderp.

    2. Just ten years ago, the Democrats came to power riding a wave of anti-war sentiment, and now they’re acting as belligerent as they did in the early 1960s.

      1. Democrats aren’t anti-war, they’re anti not-being-in-charge-of-government.

  25. Not only are these tenants harder to evict, but they are also more likely not to move.

    It’s also a huge transfer of money from the young and less well-off to the old and better-off. Because the young actually pay more than market rate in order to subsidize the old who get those sweet rents you always hear about.

    1. I loved in an apartment complex years ago that had one or two legacy rent control apartments. That dude was always complaining that he got bad service from the landlord. No shit.

  26. This is fun:

    Twenty-one Pilots’ “Heathens” in 21 styles.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g…..e=youtu.be

  27. Clinton campaign manager calls New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio a ‘terrorist’ in leaked emails

    Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager Robby Mook called New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio a “terrorist” in internal campaign emails released by Wikileaks.

    In June during the Democratic presidential primary, a Clinton campaign staffer flagged several quotes from the mayor regarding his reluctance to endorse the former New York senator, despite the fact that he ran her senate campaign in 2000 and every other major New York Democrat had already endorsed her over Sen. Bernie Sanders.

    “I’ve always liked what I heard from Bernie Sanders,” de Blasio said in a quote sent to Mook.

    “I’m waiting to hear…her larger vision on income inequality,” de Blasio said in a separate quote sent to Mook.

    “Wow. What a terrorist,” Mook replied.

    “Told you!” wrote Jennifer Palmieri, Clinton’s communications director.

    http://tinyurl.com/jg3r9uj

    Prog vs Prog – delicious !

    1. I’m guessing that was before Hill pivoted towards Sanders’ (and Deblasio’s) platform.

      1. Another public opinion vs private i guess.

        1. Heh that too. But to be fair to her, she probably isn’t the true-believer Communist that he is.

          1. I doubt it. She is one who sees herself in the upper gov in a socialist society, making bank.

            1. Mr. de Blasio became an ardent supporter of the Nicaraguan revolutionaries. He helped raise funds for the Sandinistas in New York and subscribed to the party’s newspaper, Barricada, or Barricade. When he was asked at a meeting in 1990 about his goals for society, he said he was an advocate of “democratic socialism.” –
              NY Times, 22 Sept 2013

              So, in a way, the Hillbots are right.

  28. U.S. Navy investigator sentenced to 12 years in bribery case

    John Bertrand Beliveau, 47, of York, Pennsylvania, had pleaded guilty to helping Singapore-based contractor Leonard Francis, also known as “Fat Leonard,” perpetrate a fraud scheme on the U.S. Navy by providing information that allowed Francis to thwart a criminal fraud investigation of the company

    The DOJ also said in a statement that Beliveau admitted to covering up his involvement by deleting incriminating emails. In return, the department said, Francis gave Beliveau money and paid for luxury travel to Singapore, the Philippines and Thailand, as well as lavish dinners and prostitutes.

    Sixteen people, including 11 current or former U.S. Navy officials, have been charged in the investigation, prosecutors said. Beliveau’s sentencing ranks as the most severe punishment to date.

    The DOJ does not stand for deleting incriminating emails.

    1. *Fat Lenny

      cmon, it’s like they’re not even tryin

    2. What went on was basically the same port-of-call resupply-rippoffs that have existed since the 18th century,

      The “Master & Commander” books featured lots of stories of south-pacific dockyard corruption, and how every 10 years or so, an admiral might get rebuked (or hanged) for fraudulent book-keeping, spending the king’s money on cronies in Singapore who rewarded him with luxurious accommodation & female-attention

      That sort of thing has always been the way things worked w/ Navy contracts. The occasional crackdown is part of the same cycle.

  29. For Clinton, a daily dose of faith along with politics

    At about 5 a.m. each day ? and maybe a little later on weekends ? an email from the Rev. Bill Shillady arrives in Hillary Clinton’s inbox.

    The contents?

    A reading from Scripture. A devotional commentary. A prayer. They’re sometimes inspired by the headlines ? focusing recently, for example, on the role of women in the Bible.

    1. Related: according to this guy, the Methodist Church in Washington that Hillary attended under her husband’s administration was named after a defense contractor.

      “As British troops burned the Capitol and the White House in 1812, Henry Foxall, a Methodist layman and the owner of a foundry in Georgetown that produced many cannons for American armies, prayed that Georgetown and his foundry would be spared. Heavy thunderstorms drove the British soldiers to retreat, and Georgetown and the Foxall foundry survived.

      “The next year Henry Foxall donated money and a lot at 14th and G streets, on which the first of Foundry church’s three homes was built….

      “Foundry Church takes its unusual name both from the occupation of its founding donor and from the Foundery Chapel in London, where John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, conducted many of his early mass meetings in an abandoned foundry.”

    2. Probably passages from Judges

      “Rise up, Samson, the Philistines are upon you.”

      1. Psalm 146:3: “Put not your trust in princes.”

        1. Havamal 83:

          The speech of a maiden should no man trust
          nor the words which a woman says;
          for their hearts were shaped on a whirling wheel
          and falsehood fixed in their breasts.

          1. Samuel 8:

            10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king.
            11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots.
            12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots.
            13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers.
            14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants.
            15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants.
            16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use.
            17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

            What marginal tax rate converts into a tenth of your net worth? A 10% flat tax would be an improvement, except for the confiscations.

            Kevin R (heathen quoting scripture to his own purposes)

            1. But it’s really overblown – I mean, seriously forcing people to bake cakes? Samuel lost credibility with those wild accusations.

            2. And the kings have been promising to return more than they took ever since.

              And they all lied.

              Except this time it’s different. Because Hillary is a woman.

            3. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers

              So sexist I can’t even.

            4. John 8:44 – Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    3. “Thou shalt not lie” was probably skipped over frequently.

  30. Left-wing media is retarded, admits the Guardian

    OK, we can quibble about phrasing, but it’s what they *should* have said.

    “Dangerous idiots: how the liberal media elite failed working-class Americans

    “Trump supporters are not the caricatures journalists depict ? and native Kansan Sarah Smarsh sets out to correct what newsrooms get wrong…

    “Hard numbers complicate, if not roundly dismiss, the oft-regurgitated theory that income or education levels predict Trump support, or that working-class whites support him disproportionately. Last month, results of 87,000 interviews conducted by Gallup showed that those who liked Trump were under no more economic distress or immigration-related anxiety than those who opposed him….

    “In seeking to explain Trump’s appeal, proportionate media coverage would require more stories about the racism and misogyny among white Trump supporters in tony suburbs. Or, if we’re examining economically driven bitterness among the working class, stories about the Democratic lawmakers who in recent decades ended welfare as we knew it, hopped in the sack with Wall Street and forgot American labor in their global trade agreements.

    “But, for national media outlets comprised largely of middle- and upper-class liberals, that would mean looking their own class in the face.”

    1. A poll conducted last spring by Reuters found that a third (33%) of questioned Democrats supported a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States. In another, by YouGov, 45% of polled Democrats reported holding an unfavorable view of Islam, with almost no fluctuation based on household income. Those who won’t vote for Trump are not necessarily paragons of virtue, while the rest are easily scapegoated as the country’s moral scourge.

      YEs, but you see…. 38% of Republicans want to ban moozies, and 47% dislike Islam…. ERGO HATE-FILLED MOB OF WHITEPOWER NATIONALISTS OMG NEED PANT-SHITTING EDITORIAL STAT

      1. How can a decent person have a favorable view of Islam?

      2. Progressive support for Islam certainly isn’t about support religious freedom or individual rights.

        It’s mostly about a reaction to prejudice and bigotry, and sticking their middle fingers in the faces of rednecks.

        I can’t say I’m immune to that sort of thinking. If we must choose between Hillary or Trump, the prospect of seeing SJWs, feminists, et. al. running around in circles screaming with their panties in a wad for four years seems to me like an excellent reason to vote for Trump all by itself.

  31. I’ve kinda made a transition to Linux. Gotta say I’m really digging it.

    Doing some things can be kind of a pain in the ass, but not that big a deal. I used to operate in straight Unix back in the day, so command lines don’t scare me. And everything about it has improved since the last time I tried Linux more than ten years ago. In KDE you can do just about everything without a command line anyway, and since a lot of what you do online is in the same browser you used in Windows anyway, there isn’t that much of a difference.

    Probably the biggest difference is that it makes me feel superior to everyone around me. I understand that happens to a lot of Linux users. You should try it. Feeling superior to everyone is awesome!

    1. I’m a Mac user – I already feel superior.

      1. I knew there was something wrong with you.

      2. There’s a Linux distribution called elementary os that basically emulates Apple

        https://elementary.io/

        To be honest, I got interested in Linux again out of privacy concerns. The creepier the government gets, the less I want all my activity monitored. And shutting down all the stuff you share through Windows 10 creeped me out.

        And then I’d see stuff like this:

        “German public television channel Das Erste reported that the NSA’s XKeyscore surveillance system contains definitions that match persons who search for Tails using a search engine or visit the Tails website. A comment in XKeyscore’s source code calls Tails “a comsec mechanism advocated by extremists on extremist forums”.[13][14]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Tails_(operating_system)

        So, if you do a google search for a particular Linux distribution or visit the download site, the NSA puts you on a watchlist? What else are they scanning us for?

        It’s just gonna get worse, too, and Google, Apple, Microsoft, and company are all part of the problem.

        1. I’m not an expert on OSs by any measure but is your privacy really any better using Linux than Windows? I’ve heard that’s not really the case from IT folks. I do have all the Winsiws 10 cloud stuff turned off on my machine but am otherwise much too lax about that sort of thing. I have Tor but really don’t even use that. I should do better.

          1. Where can you find out how to do that ?

            1. I was able to find info pretty easy on google when I first installed Windows 10. I’m not sure how hard it is to get rid of once you’ve set it up. It’s most likely like herpes.

              1. Eh, just wipe it with a cloth.

          2. I had a huge response to this that was eaten by the squirrels.

          3. Testing 123

          4. Finally going through? Either the NSA didn’t want me to say or God wanted me to repeat it.

            Anyway, suffice it to say that Windows 10 is a privacy nightmare. They’re basically doing to your computer what Google does to your search data.

            http://www.pcworld.com/article…..piece.html

            The only real check on surveillance is the cost and limitations of the technology, and as those problems continue to fall by the wayside, people who care about the Fourth Amendment should probably migrate to more secure offerings. President Elizabeth Warren certainly won’t let the Constitution stop her from having the NSA cross reference your communications to see if you’re doing something she doesn’t like–especially if she’s trying save the world from racism, sexism, guns, and you.

          5. It’s true that some things you do are independent of operating system. If you’re using a free email service based here in the United States without encryption, it doesn’t matter whether you do it with Linux or some other operating system. Use encryption! Get a secure email service. DuckDuck Go searches aren’t as accurate as Google’s, but if Google is acting as if they were an arm of the NSA, maybe you can live with that. Don’t use Chrome. Try chromium, Firefox, or some other browser. I’m liking Qupzilla. Maybe try the Tor browser.

            Tails only connects to the internet through Tor and you can boot to it from a USB drive at a library, internet cafe, or some other public place. When you leave with the USB drive, you leave no trace behind. That is certainly more fundamentally secure than Windows 10. There are other distributions optimized for security.

            http://www.tecmint.com/best-se…..s-of-2016/

            1. Thanks Ken.

      3. Oh, and Steam making their client Linux compatible so I can play games on it doesn’t hurt.

        1. I tried to install Steam on a Ubuntu VM the other day and gave up in frustration. I’ve played with Linux on and off for ten years so I know my way around. I just don’t have the patience I used to for that kind of nuisance.

      4. Feel being the key word there.

    2. I switched to Mint around the 1st of June and have been happy ever since.

      1. I probably would have gone Manjaro (Arch), but Mint was a close second. I’m sure I’ll try it out, too, eventually.

        I’m wanting an Intel NUC, and they’ve developed their drivers specifically for Ubuntu. My last foray into Linux ended in tears with driver problems, so I was hoping to avoid that. I went with Kubuntu, which has been great.

        It was just different when you couldn’t do stuff with Linux. It used be you couldn’t play games, etc. I can’t seem to find any limitations. I’m dual booting at the moment, but I keep finding myself booting into Windows less and less often.

        I’ve always been a big fan of Microsoft Outlook, the PIM. But I got over that the last time using Evolution back in the day–I was using Evolution when it was developed by Ximian. My proforma spreadsheets converted fine into LibreOffice, but I might try WPS–which is supposed to be really slick. I don’t mind paying for it either. Capitalism is fine by me.

        I doubt it’ll ever be a conscious choice to exclude Windows forever. It’ll be like when Pink Floyd dumped Syd Barrett. It wasn’t a conscious decision. He got to be such a useless pain in the ass, one day they just decided not to bother picking him up on the way to a gig. I guess that’s where I am with Windows. I’ll probably just decide not to bother installing it on my next rig. I can’t think of any reason why I’d miss them anymore.

        1. I have a dual-boot system, too, only because the realtively cheap HP I bought had Windows 10 pre-installed. I bought a 1TB external hard drive and put Mint on that.

      2. Pfft, lightweights. I run a linux machine inside my linux machine.

        1. Pffft….I don’t have to worry about insecure communications with my friends, I don’t have any.

  32. Saturday Morning Grab Bag

    1. Dickshooter, Idaho is a real place. It is named after its founder, Dick Shooter.

    2. The Russians used camels as pack animals during the final push on Berlin. The most famous of these camels, named Kuznechik, supposedly spat on the ruins of the Reichstag.

    3. In Malta, home-made fireworks are called petards. Making amateur fireworks is a common hobby there and fatal accidents are common.

    1. “Petard” is a Shakespearian term.

      And I wouldn’t spit on the Reichstag if it was on fire.

      1. Im pretty sure Shakes didnt invent the term

        it was french for “bomb” before he came along

        1. I meant to way Billy S. *used* the word, not that he invented it.

      2. Petard was french for bomb,usually a sticky bomb which would be placed by hand onto a gate or door to blast it open. It was not uncommon for these to go off prematurely, thus the expression ‘to be hoisted (blown into the air) by your own petard’.

    2. Making amateur fireworks is a common hobby there and fatal accidents are common.

      You’d think the latter would preclude the former after a short time.

  33. Obama’s only “achievement” still doing as great as was expected by most Americans. Thanks Democrats!

    http://hotair.com/archives/201…..ectacular/

    1. I dont know why Trump hasnt just hammered on this subject 24/7

      It comes straight out of people’s pockets.

      1. They already defused a possible Trump attack by the hilarious Bill Clinton rant and then the softball Anderson Cooper follow-up with Hillary in the 2nd debate.

    2. The Obama administration will go down as the biggest steaming pile in our history. They absolutely fucked up everything they touched. It has been one disaster after another since day one.

      1. So what you’re saying is one of the current residents of Mt. Rushmore will have to make room?

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  36. When this bullshit came up in San Francisco, I used to ask people why hotels were an acceptable use of space. If AirBNB providing rooms for temporary visitors is bad, why is it ok for hotels to do so? I would “propose” that we convert all hotel rooms into monthly housing, and put the prog I was talking to in the position of defending the hotel industry.

    1. Ask them to defend the 18% hotel tax while they’re at it.

      1. Their response is that tourists deserve to pay 18% directly to the state because otherwise they consume city services and don’t pay in. When you try to point out that tourists literally come to the city, dump money on it and then leave, they don’t get it.

        1. When you try to point out that tourists literally come to the city, dump money on it and then leave, they don’t get it.

          Money, BTW, that will actually be used for productive endeavors, as opposed to the money poured down the shitter by the state.

          1. The problem is that a significant number of progs are on the downstream end of the shitter, so they LIKE the money poured down it.

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    1. Well, obviously you didn’t spend it on spelling lessons.

  38. true, when we lived there, it was the backdrop for the film “Death Wish”, but still.

    A remake, starring Bruce Willis, is currently being filmed in Montreal.

    Nothing can ever top Death Wish 4: The Crackdown, though.

    1. Well, private prisons are pretty awful. There was a private women’s prison where an officer had sex with an inmate, and he was allowed to keep his job! Then there was an officer who told a suicidal inmate, “go hang yourself, you fucking bitch” and nothing happened to him. Another time, an inmate was purposely locked in a suicide watch cell and had her blanket taken away, and she subsequently developed a nasty case of pharyngitis.

      Oh wait, all of those things happened at the state-run prison where I work.

  39. Guess who’s feeling the Johnson

    “I won’t vote for evil,” … “I will vote for someone who I want to be the president. And when I do that, I will have fulfilled my duty as a citizen. I voted my heart, I voted my conscience, and it will be Gary Johnson getting my vote. It will not be a Democrat or Republican.”

    1. Also:

      “Had I been the nomination of the Libertarians, they would have a better chance to win,” … “In today’s day, you have to have a candidate with charisma: I have that.”

        1. When that press conference was held, Miley Cyrus hadn’t even started doing Hannah Montana yet.

        2. He hadn’t gone off the rails yet.

          Actually one of the nice things you can say about Jesse is that after one term, he decided that he didn’t like the power of being a gov and didn’t even run again.

          It would have been a tight race, but Jesse still had a good shot at winning a second term if he had wanted to. Don’t tell me that Tim “T-Paw” Pawlenty was any better.

    2. “But he’s not going to win!” Handler replied, emphatically.

      She’s a real public intellectual.

      1. And [X] would’ve won if only Ventura didn’t throw his vote away!

    3. It’s like throwing someone a lifeline and they’ve already drowned! – Handler on voting Johnson

      It’s like throwing someone a lifeline and they come on shore and proceed to drown eight other people! – Me on voting Clinton and Trump

  40. Prog trying to persuade me that Trump is Bad (since I’ve only said, like, a million times that he’s bad, almost as bad as his fellow Democrat, Clinton): “OMG Trump just said that Democrats will bus in Mexicans to cast illegal ballots!”

    That’s unfair, because the Democrats haven’t acknowledged that type of fraud yet.

  41. The UN has decided that the Temple Mount isn’t an important Jewish area.

    I’m sure nothing will result from this. It’ll be fine.

    1. “The resolution was backed by 24 countries while six countries opposed it and 26 abstained.”

      26 prostitutes saying, “I told you, not on the lips!”

  42. “City officials claim that these rentals are being used to set up “illegal hotels” that limit the supply of affordable housing for residents.”

    Does not compute.

  43. “The mayor’s desire to take action [on high rent] is warranted, as New Yorkers spend nearly two-thirds of their income on housing. While de Blasio has identified a real problem, his preferred solutions will not work. ”

    The landlords over there pay all kinds of property taxes, and have to deal with a court system rigged to benefit the tenants, and allow them to rob the landlord in many cases living there rent free. I’m sure there are many shitty landlords, but noone is forcing them to live there.

    The voters in NY have nerve to complain about rental prices, yet vote for the likes of Bloomberg, Deblasio, etc., who raise their taxes. So what is a landlord to do? Eat the increases and leave the rent the same? Hell no. Taxes went up 5%? Raise the rent 5% and let the tenant know the reason for the increase is taxation.

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  51. RE: Don’t Blame AirBnb For New York City’s High Rents
    High rents have been a problem a lot longer then Airbnb has existed.

    Yes, high rents are caused by AirBnb.
    Just like AirBnb is responsible for measles, third world poverty, bad breath in dogs, excessive flatulence in crowded elevators, the melting of the polar caps, and highway congestion in LA.
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