John McCain

John McCain's No Vulgar Boor, But Trump Is Right to Say He's a Hypocrite (UPDATE: Former FEMA Director Michael Brown Accuses McCain of 'Vulgar Boorish A-hole Treatment of Staff')

GOP nominee tries to paint Arizona senator as a fellow locker-room talker, but he's on firmer ground suggesting McCain's opposition is situational, not principled.

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This morning, Republican Party presidential nominee Donald Trump warned that, in the wake of GOP defections from his campaign, the "shackles" constraining his behavior were finally coming off. Sure enough, it took Trump about three hours to swing his newly freed fists in the rhetorical direction of turncoat John McCain's face:

First things first, is John McCain indeed "very foul mouthed"? I can't speak to his patter as a septuagenarian, but let's just say that his nickname as a teenager was "McNasty"—by all accounts (especially his own!) deservedly so. His dad swore so much he was known as "Good Goddamn McCain," a point of filial pride. McCain is also no stranger to "locker room remarks" about his exploits: "we exaggerated them for the benefit of our rule-abiding classmates," he wrote of his high school career, creating the "welcome fallacy that our excursions were somehow leading us to romantic opportunities that were only imagined in our all-male society." Much of his life from puberty until the Hanoi Hilton was an orgy of rule-breaking, heavy drinking, plane-crashing, and skirt-chasing, particularly if the wearer was an heiress, a model, or a stripper. (Don't get him started on Marie, "The Flame of Florida," or that one Brazilian fashion model he met during an R&R stay full of "excessive drinking, nightclubbing, and little or no sleep.")

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Yet I would be shocked if McCain has ever during my lifetime spoken even privately, let alone while wearing a microphone on a television set, about forcing himself onto women or grabbing them in the privates. He has been a pursuer, yes, but not to my knowledge a masher, or a gross braggart. With the exception of his legendary and occasionally retributive temper, and the usual personal compromises of political life, the guy has always struck me as essentially decent, not boorish, on a human-to-human level. (Policy is a separate topic.) It's no accident, I believe, that the ancient Arizonan stood out among the Trump defectors by also stressing in his explanation Trump's ongoing hostility to individual justice in the Central Park Five case.

But of course McCain's potty-mouth is not what this is about. Trump's main insinuation here, that the senator dropped him opportunistically, is 100 percent correct. At a debate yesterday with Democratic Senate candidate Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, McCain, according to the Casa Grande Dispatch, "found himself under stiff questioning, not just by Kirkpatrick but also the hosts of the debate, about his backing of Trump through personal insults like being told he's a loser for getting captured during the Vietnam war, through Trump insulting the parents of a Muslim soldier who died in Iraq, through Trump saying a judge of Mexican heritage had no right to hear a lawsuit against him over Trump University, and through Trump calling him a 'loser' for being defeated by Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential race." That about sums up the extent of McCain's self-degradations in the age of Trump.

As I wrote in May, when McCain was still facing a primary challenge and therefore lacked the stones to do anything except quietly signal to his social cohort that he really didn't like endorsing Donald Trump, the would-be maverick's dependably situational political morality is a symbol of GOP dysfunction that goes far beyond this election cycle, and will reverberate long after Trump is nothing more than the CEO of Hannity TV. The fact is, Republican elites are so frightened (and in McCain's case, appalled) by their own base that they zig-zag between outright contempt and (in election years) craven, wholly non-believable pandering. Never forget how low McCain scraped the last time he felt heat in an Arizona primary, nor how he appeased the hordes in 2008.

Whatever reconstruction process the GOP will attempt beginning next month has to begin, if it has any chance of convincing anyone, not with the summary purging of the Deplorables, but within the guts of the very party elite that made the new-alt-right possible in the first place. John McCain knows very little now about Donald Trump that his Senate colleague Jeff Flake knew from the get-go; it is with principled, limited-government conservatives like Flake that anything useful will emanate, not from weathervane big-government conservatives like McCain.

* UPDATE: Former FEMA director Michael Brown tweets in response that "Let me assure everyone. Despite his heroic war service he is absolutely one. I have personally watched it in his treatment of aides." When I asked him whether he meant "vulgar boor" or "a-hole," he replied: "Yes. Both. Vulgar boorish a-hole treatment of staff," and "It was one of those times you're watching a car accident & can't avert your eyes. Firefighters conference. Appalling. Behind the curtain."

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  1. I, for one, am shocked that a 3rd generation naval officer would swear like a sailor!

    1. Ahoy.

    2. No way would an immature clown like McCain was would ever have engaged in locker room chat about womengirls! He was as pristine and pure as snow before and after his time as a POW.

      1. Nah man – he’s a pre’95 officer. You know, before ‘Right Spirit’, the backlash from ‘Tailhook’ made everyone paranoid, and the senior CoC decided that things like patronizing prostitutes in other countries was a human rights violation and would ruin your life and career and decided to pretend that they hadn’t done those things themselves and gotten on just fine.

  2. Excellent. Keep focusing on other Republicans, Don. They’re your true enemy in all of this.

    1. Since most of America can’t stand McCain, yes he should. You n Ed to retake the class your handlers gave you on concern trolling. It clearly didn’t stick the first time

    2. Definitely keep focusing on McCain. The more damage you can do the sooner we can get enough voters to kick him out of office. Worse that happens is my state gets another one, best is we get a Flake.

  3. I am shocked that a billionaire celebrity would be a masher! Clearly, Hillary is preferable, because she only mashes the Constitution and the rule of law. And once she finishes flooding the country with poor Latin Americans and Muslims, we can be sure that all women will be treated with proper respect.

    1. There’s literally no one else to vote for!

      1. The problem is that there is no one else to vote for who could possibly win. That’s the rub. And as someone here said the other day, a vote for Johnson in California doesn’t raise the middle finger high enough for Sacramento to see it.

        1. Yeah, voting for the big-government loving assclown who doesn’t give a shit about freedom is totally the right move because it pisses off the other big-government loving assclowns who don’t give a shit about freedom!

          1. If all you see when you look at Trump and Hillary is two identical “big-government loving assclowns,” then I can’t help you.

    2. “Hillary is preferable, because she only mashes the Constitution and the rule of law.”

      How can anyone possibly think that Clinton is the only major party nominee who would mash the Constitution and the rule of law? Virtually everything Trump has said in his campaign has indicated that he does not give a damn about either thing.

      “And once she finishes flooding the country with poor Latin Americans and Muslims, we can be sure that all women will be treated with proper respect.”

      And there we get to the real reason you’ll stand by Trump no matter what – he’s the only one promising to save you from the evil brown hordes

      1. It’s true. Just because you don’t like it and denying reality is necessary to virtue signal doesn’t make it any less true. Do you honestly believe millions of Muslims will make the country more free? Really?

        1. “denying reality is necessary to virtue signal doesn’t make it any less true.”

          Remember kids, anyone who disagrees with John on anything is just virtue signaling. Nobody could possibly disagree with his beliefs for other reasons.

          I don’t think a complete ban on Muslim immigration is going to make the country more free, no. The numbers of Muslim immigrants to the US that we are actually talking about is nowhere near enough for the Sharia law implementation fantasies of the right, even if all of them were 100% dedicated to such a goal. The total number of all Muslims living in the US, immigrant or non-immigrant, is about 3 million. Maybe 1% of the population. Yet from the rhetoric of you, PapayaSF, or most people on the right these days, you’d think we were on the verge of becoming an Islamist dictatorship if we don’t shut down all Muslim immigration right now.

          Also, even if you buy the premise that all Muslim immigration (setting aside Latin American immigration, which you ignored) is bad, it doesn’t follow that Trump is some great freedom-loving, Constitution-respecting candidate who is worthy of support.

          1. It’s relative. Trump is only a “freedom-loving, Constitution-respecting candidate” in comparison with Hillary.

      2. You can sneer about “evil brown hordes,” but the issue is not their skin color, it’s their culture and who they vote for. Democrats have an explicit plan to change the electorate in a more statist direction via immigration. You’re willfully ignorant if you don’t see that.

        1. As if Trump, Sanders, and Clinton (the preferred candidates of white people this cycle, in order) aren’t statists? I’m sorry, I’m not the willfully ignorant one if you’re trying to argue that American statism is all the fault of those damn minorities voting for Democrats and limiting their numbers at all costs will increase freedom.

          1. I never said “American statism is all the fault of those damn minorities voting for Democrats.” Obviously it’s not. But the most statist major party is intentionally and actively importing statist voters by the millions. It’s already turned California permanently Democratic. If you refuse to see that, or to grasp the implications, I can’t help you.

  4. Just you wait until Trump makes his horse a general. Then you fuckers will pay.

      1. There’s only so many places you can name after yourself before Google Maps will just up and shit itself.

        1. They will name towns after my feces. Sooner or later, people will just move from one shit town to the next. – King Baconus Fatassus Magicus

    1. C’mon man – this is *America*. We don’t do that sort of thing.

      He’ll make the horse a *czar*.

  5. through Trump insulting the parents of a Muslim soldier who died in Iraq

    Those poor grieving parents. Dealing with their tragedy privately and the Trump plucked them out and, without any provocation, publicly insulted them. Why did he choose them to make their loss national news? What kind of monster would do that?

    1. What kind of idiot would respond to obvious bait like that? Trump digs his own holes.

      1. He does do that. However, there’s this unwritten set of rules such as those parents, of their own volition, climb up on a stage and use their dead son as a soapbox and they should be immune from criticism or response. Bullshit. Let him tear up the polite fictions that Team Purple uses.

    2. Its amusing to read this story about the Muslim parent kerfuffle.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08……html?_r=0

      Its like they just cut and paste the outrage du jour into the same tripe. Trump “reeling” (sound familiar?), “biggest crisis of campaign”, etc.

      Here’s an account of what he said:

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..story.html

      Where’s the insult, exactly?

      1. The insult is in reminding me about what he said about people who were captured, and in the memory of my grandfather, Pvt. Paul A Thacker, who was in the fall of Bataan, the Bataan Death March, Camp O’Donnell, and Fukuoka Camp 17 in Omuta, and a Life Member of American Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor, he can fuck right off, and so can anyone else who votes for him.

        1. Amen. Like the Union soldiers who fought at Gettysburg until they were completely surrounded and were marched off to places like Andersonville where many died. Heros? Yes, compared to DJT who never served a day but knows more than the generals do.

        2. Sorry John but we didn’t win the war because your grandfather surrendered. Sorry it happened to him but his surrendering is not some kind of noble act

        3. Sorry John but we didn’t win the war because your grandfather surrendered. Sorry it happened to him but his surrendering is not some kind of noble act

          1. The defenders of Bataan were put in a hopeless situation (no possibility of relief due to much of the Pacific Fleet being on the bottom of Pearl Harbor) and for the most part fought until they ran out of supplies.

            “…the battlin’ bastards of Bataan
            No mama, no papa, no Uncle Sam…”

  6. McCain, according to the Casa Grande Dispatch, “found himself under stiff questioning, not just by Kirkpatrick but also the hosts of the debate, about his backing of Trump through personal insults

    Why aren’t you as insulted as we think you should be? Toe the line, Bucko!

  7. Being “foul mouthed” and boasting about sexually assaulting women (by forcibly kissing them whether they wanted it or not) are not the same thing.

    1. You keep on with the “wanted it or not”. Assumes facts not in evidence, contradicts available statements.

      1. Does he have to admit that not every woman in the world wants to be groped by him before we can condemn him for a “kiss/grope first ask questions later” attitude?

        This is his statement:

        “I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful?I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything… Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”

        His line about “they let you do it” hardly inspires confidence that he’s making sure his advances are wanted before proceeding. Unless we’re supposed to believe that every woman in the world really wants to be groped by Donald Trump, and he knows this, OM’s comment isn’t unfair.

      2. Re: RC Dean,

        You keep on with the “wanted it or not”. Assumes facts not in evidence, contradicts available statements.

        “Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

        What is one supposed to take from that, RC? I can only guess the following: That Gossamer The Monster kisses women whether they want it or not, because as he clearly stated: he doesn’t wait.

  8. within the guts of the very party elite that made the new-alt-right possible in the first place.

    I don’t get it. Explain, plz.

  9. it is with principled, limited-government conservatives like Flake that anything useful will emanate, not from weathervane big-government conservatives like McCain.

    Kind of hurts the argument that Sen. Rand Paul is also hiding behind “I signed a pledge” and certainly not denouncing Trump, as he wants to keep his seat in super Trump Kentucky, doesn’t it? (Thomas Massie as well.)

    Politicians who want to remain elected pander. Those who don’t, like say Gov. Ralph Carr (R-CO) who resisted Japanese internment, don’t stay elected.

    1. Flake didn’t have a primary or an election this year. The bravery of any such Republican, while appreciated compared to the collaborators, must be kept in context.

  10. RE: John McCain’s No Vulgar Boor*, But Trump Is Right to Say He’s a Hypocrite (UPDATED)
    GOP nominee tries to paint Arizona senator as a fellow locker-room talker, but he’s on firmer ground suggesting McCain’s opposition is situational, not principled.

    Since when are republican’s (and democrat’s) opposition principled?
    Did I miss something.

  11. Whatever reconstruction process the GOP will attempt beginning next month has to begin, if it has any chance of convincing anyone, not with the summary purging of the Deplorables, but within the guts of the very party elite that made the new-alt-right possible in the first place.

    Precisely.

    As one blogger asked of the Republican elite (paraphrasing) “Exactly what percentage of your party do you consider to be irreedemable racists and bigots? Why do you stay in a party with so many irredeemable racists and bigots? Why don’t you resign from the party?”

    1. It’s a known fact that as voters are as likely to deserve to be fed to woodchippers as politicians. On average, they’d be just as bad as politicians given the chance, as their votes demonstrate.

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