Everything's Bigger in Texas, Including Insane Spending on High School Football Stadiums
Taxpayers support spending $70 million on a little-used stadium, but remain clueless to the lack of economic benefit.


Texas's McKinney Independent School District is spending upwards of $70 million on a new high school football stadium, in part because of a sense of competition with nearby Allen High School—which already boasts a slightly more modestly-priced $60 million stadium with a capacity of 18,000 (about the same as Madison Square Garden).
Both public expenditures are popular in their respective communities, and in the case of McKinney, part of a larger public works bond package overwhelmingly approved by voters. And if a well-off suburb such as McKinney—which boasts a median household income of $83,000, according to the Los Angeles Times—wants to show off its civic pride by building a stadium which will be used once a week for four months out of the year, at least one could argue that the local government was doing the bidding of the people.
High school football fans might be legion in Texas, but like all supporters of publicly-financed stadiums, a good amount of wishful thinking regarding the overall economic benefit of a sports stadium to the community is required.
Liz Strand-Cimini, a McKinney citizens advisory committee member arguing in favor of the new stadium, was quoted in Community Impact as saying, "folks who are coming to choose a quality school district for their children are drawn to these shinier objects in our neighboring cities. We don't have that here; we should have that here, and we can have that here."
Jason Burress, a McKinney Economic Development Corp. board member countered, "What I hear more than anything else is that shopping, a solid restaurant base, a city with a good walkability, good schools, where it's easy to get around traffic-wise, anywhere you have a good quality of life or you have a good base of employment talent, those are the things that bring in economic development." Mike Giles, of the Grassroots McKinney political action committee, lamented to Community Impact that despite the wealth and increasing population of McKinney, the town has "no plans for any new high school for the next 10 years."
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Don't fuck with Texas high school football.
Why not? They're just feeder schools for a bunch of mediocre Big 12 programs.
Because they're feeder schools for a bunch of mediocre Big 12 programs. You can pry my Big 12 program from my cold, dead hands.
If you're the type of leech who is okay with $70 million dollar taxpayer bills to get some sport you like, "[prying your] Big 12 program from [your] cold, dead hands" sounds like a win-win to me, frankly.
Look, don't hate the playa, hate the game. I want my government largess directed at me and me only. Don't be bitter because I'm able to get a $70 million stadium for acne-riddled teens in my tumble-weed strewn town.
Hogg House reppa'sent!!
The Buckeyes pried a few errant passes from Baker Mayfield this past weekend. And Perine laid an egg.
That was one brutal ass-beating. And it could have been 21 points worse if Meyer hadn't have taken his foot off the gas.
I've said for decades the best thing you could do for education in Texas is get rid of high school football.
*gives RC the stinkeye, spits tobacco*
Meatheads gotta have some way to get rich.
But how will the local school board be able to graft some of those millions?
And how will they crony their brother-in-law's construction company?
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"with a capacity of 18,000 (about the same as Madison Square Garden)." - Uh, yea...because High School football in Texas is more important than the NBA and NHL...so, it should be at least as big.
I'd like to point out that while using tax dollars to pay for entertainment venues is indeed wrong, we're talking about football. FOOTBALL.
*dons hard hat painted in team colors, crushes a can of Bud*
Football is entertaining? It's always a 0-0 tie, and the whole concept of "extra time" is just stupid.
And it discriminatory towards straight men.
Not faggy euro football. Real he-man 'Murcan football.
[throws water bottle at thom and makes monkey noises]
"Soccer". Pshaw...if those athletes were any good they'd be in the NFL
Not always, only 7% of the time.
High school football fans might be legion in Texas, but like all supporters of publicly-financed stadiums, a good amount of wishful thinking regarding the overall economic benefit of a sports stadium to the community is required.
Can you really put a value on watching high school girls prancing around in short skirts?
/asking for Crusty.
Don't forget the Whipped Cream Bikini. I learned about that in the documentary Varsity Blues.
I. DOHN. WANT. YORE. LIFE!
Whipped Cream Bikini is the most effective way to assassinate SugarFree. For extra effectiveness, give her cute little Whipped Cream Slippers.
the documentary Varsity Blues
You joke, but I went to HS in TX, and in small towns with good HS football teams, things were pretty much exactly like the movie.
Luckily I went to a small town HS with a shitty football team, so it wasn't as bad for me.
I did not read this literally and thought this was some unsettling metaphor about active sweaty young women and their undergarments.
Then again, what I do not know about vaginas could fill volumes.
This isn't really about football. It is more about state sanctioned religion. Imagine the County building a $70 million dollar cathedral.
Imagine if someone suggested that it be used for metric football (soccer). Apostasy!
Whoa, I thought for a second you were going to wade into Canadian football. Well played sir, well played.
"metric fotoball"
Stealing that one
"Fagball" also works.
*tugs Stetson down, throws beer can out pickup window*
Um. Soccer fields are measured in yards.
Metric yards.
No. Think about where the sport originated. Everything is still officially measured in yards.
China?
We're talking association football, not hackeysack.
Well, how the hell should I know that.
"folks who are coming to choose a quality school district for their children are drawn to these shinier objects in our neighboring cities. We don't have that here; we should have that here, and we can have that here."
"We're a bunch of fucking parakeets, and proud of it!"
Actually she's saying that parents looking for a place to send their spawn too are parakeets. Which is extremely offens... OH LOOK, A SHINY METAL OBJECT!
Man, come on, I had a rough night, and I hate the fucking Eagles, man.
Get the fuck outta my cab.
The big difference here is that local voters approved a bond (like in the pro scenarios), but that nobody's charging $60 a ticket or selling jerseys for $100 each. So, yeah. its not quite the same as professional sports where the owners get to keep whatever is left after they pay operating costs. Or maybe I'm just embarrassed because my 5A (or are we at 6A) alma mater shares a combination football stadium and natatorium with three other schools.
I'd be more sympathetic to the high school stadiums if the profits from events at the stadium went to offset tax burden for the people who paid for it rather than boosting the school's athletic program.
Vote against the next bond.
The bond initiatives in my town are much less objectionable.
What, no stipend for Perverted Justice??
That Allen stadium is really freakin nice. I've been to D1 college stadiums that weren't half as nice.
It's much nicer of a stadium for me considering that I don't live in Allen, so I don't have to pay for it.
Imagine how nice it would have been if it wasn't built by some councilman's cousin and his drinkin' buddy Ron or some shit.
Why "Reason" gets public funding of sports arenas wrong:
http://avanneman.tumblr.com/po.....asons-that
Thanks for the rebuttal to the argument no one has made.
What kind of train of thought leads one to, "I bet nobody thought of the fact that lots of people enjoy watching football!"
I think you got trolled.
Indeed, anyone who accepts that any New Yorker cartoon can be captioned with anything other than 'Christ, what an asshole!' is the worst of trolls.
Oh, Buddha....
Man named Anal misses point, news at eleven
I don't even see how you can make a viable argument that HIGH SCHOOL sports venues add anything to the local economy. At least with professional sports venues, you can make the argument that people will travel from the greater metro area and spend money before/after the game in the venue's area who otherwise wouldn't make the trek (while likely true to some extent, it is probably not nearly enough economic activity to justify the public expenditure).
They plan to sell so much Frito pie, you don't even know. You'll see.
What about kolaches? Or is that just a Houston thing?
Kolaches are delicious. It's a pity they aren't as ubiquitous once you get further south. You can find them, but really, breakfast tacos and sausage inna tortilla are much more popular.
The bakery in Sinton does amazing kolaches, if you are ever at opportunity to taste them yourself.
They were quite tasty, yes. I'd never even heard of them, but when we visited Texas for the first time this summer to see an old friend, his wife picked up a box of donuts and a box of kolaches from a local bakery for breakfast.
Well, it's a West thing
You're not from the South, are you?
High school and college football are huge there.
Alternate title: "Anthony Fisher has neither seen nor read Friday Night Lights."
Is this woman really equating the intellect of parents to that akin to house cats? "Alright, time to pick out a good school for my littl- OH WOW A SHINY STADIUM MUST TOUCH!"
That embedded quote is supposed to be in boldface. I was distracted by just the thought of a stadium.
A shiny object gap cannot be tolerated.
I take it you're not into girls with pierced genitals?
This is an foreseeable result of having the government involved in education.
I'm getting the strangest feeling of deja-vu...
Want to know the best part? They haven't even broken ground yet and they're already 7 million dollars over budget!
That's right, they're 10% over budget before they've even started. Don't worry though, they're going to make up the shortfall out of the ISD's budget.
Somehow we didn't have enough money to properly fund our academic programs so we had to pass a massive bond (won't someone think of the children!) but we've got 7 million lying around to build this boondoggle.