How Obama Divides America
You're either with him or one of the bad guys

At the funeral service for five slain Dallas cops, President Barack Obama delivered another one of his needlessly politicized lectures. As is customary these days, those who were critical of his rhetoric were branded racists and unthinking haters.
That's one theory.
Another one is that people may be put off by Obama's grating habit of turning every tragedy into a sermon about our supposed collective failings. I doubt the president is substantively more partisan than the average politician, but like most people on the left these days, he no longer bothers to make a distinction between a policy position and a moral struggle.
The issue of gun control, for example, is not a good-faith disagreement among people of different persuasions but—like civil rights or suffrage—a struggle waged by the righteous against the evil (and sometimes those poor souls tricked by the National Rifle Association).
Seemingly every political battle waged by the modern Democratic Party—gay rights, immigration, climate change, inequality—is imbued with a kind of spiritual certitude that justifies circumventing debate. If a person who opposes the Obama administration's transgender bathroom policy is just like a Klansman, why even discuss the matter? In this context, the histrionics of Democrats in Congress over guns or the media's melodramas make all the sense in the world.
In this context, why wouldn't the president lecture us about gun control in his eulogy? Why wouldn't Obama offer completely unsubstantiated claims about guns? "It is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book," was a contention Obama made that no rational person could ever possibly believe. It's meant to convey the idea that half the nation cares more about the NRA than about children.
So maybe some conservatives are put off by Obama's awe-inspiring propensity to create straw men and offer false choices at every opportunity—all under the guise of thoughtful discourse. Maybe it's that he never offers a fair or reasonable assessment of his opposition's positions before pretending to debunk them. Or maybe it's that no matter what actually happens, he clings to a predetermined message before blaming the half of America that didn't vote for him.
Last week, the Dallas chief of police told us that the murderer of five cops, Micah Xavier Johnson, was "upset about the recent police shootings" and "wanted to kill white people, especially white officers." In the same way, the Orlando shooter, Omar Mateen, was a Muslim motivated by the Islamic State group to murder as many gay Americans as he could. Because neither of those storylines comports with the president's worldview, in each instance, he laid down collective responsibility and implored us to be more liberal and thus avoid more incidents like them.
We are better than this, he says.
We are. When speaking about Johnson, Obama claimed that "none of us is entirely innocent" when it comes to racial discrimination—"and that includes our police departments." Actually, most cops and most people are entirely innocent when it comes to racial discrimination. Yes, there are racists and bigots in all our institutions and communities, but most Americans don't need to "open our hearts" on the subject simply because liberals accuse them of harboring ugly thoughts. We need to fix police departments. We need to fix our inner-city schools. And we need to fix the economic prospects of minority populations. People have different ideas for how to go about it. Every day, though, the vast majority of citizens peacefully interact in families, in friendships and in commerce.
If you continually claim that every problem in America is driven by hate, people may start believing you. According to a new Pew Research Center poll, Americans' perception of race relations is more negative today than it has been in 20 years. About 48 percent of those polled claim that "race relations are generally bad." And 36 percent of adults say that "too much attention" is paid to race and racial issues today. Are things really worse today than they were 30 years ago? Fifty years?
When Obama calls for unity (you'll recall this was a big part of his first campaign), he's not talking about a nation that maximizes its freedom so that there is space for an array of cultural outlooks and ideas. He means a nation of diverse people who can all agree that progressivism is right for the nation.
Meanwhile, this administration has made a habit of using the power of the state to coerce and compel others to accept its cultural attitudes. For him, unity means little dissent. In his last State of the Union address, for example, Obama laid out a progressive agenda and then implored us to embrace "American ideals" as if they were the same. Obviously, the nation is divided because Americans have deep-seated, legitimate and meaningful disagreements about the future. One man can neither unify us nor break us apart on his own. But it's been a long time since we've had a president as divisive as Barack Obama.
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Obama grates on my nerves worse than Bush ever did, and that is saying something.
When Bush idiotically talked about how if you're not with us, you're against us, he was talking about other countries and the international community. When Obama and the Dems today have similar notions and says similar things, they're talking about half of America.
Typically the half that would never vote for him, or his 3rd term heir.
No, Bush was telling anyone, including Americans, that you'd better get with the program of invasion and occupation or you're the enemy.
He actually had a CIA agent outed when her diplomat husband questioned his "proof" that Iraq had WMAs.
This^. He is the most partisan President in my lifetime. He made one non-partisan unifying speech in his life (the 2004 convention that made him national) and has simply ridden that ever since. My dad says Nixon was comparable - but his partisanship was more a paranoid character flaw and he hardly has a positive reputation.
It's almost like Obama has never understood that he actually won the 2008 election. But rather than become President of the entire country, he chose to keep on campaigning as Leader of the Democratic Party.
He and his supporters absolutely don't understand that they've been in charge for eight years
Like any hustler, whether race, "class", gender... they can never have the appearance of having won. They need to create the perpetual victimhood theme. Obama has done it constantly (far too many times to specify) and Bush did it with Iran/Iraq.
Honestly he is a pretty sad individual. History will only remember him as being the first African American President who was given a Nobel peace Prize based solely upon the color of his skin.
An acquaintance of mine is having a bumper sticker printed up:
"Vote for Hillary because she is a woman
just like you voted for Obama because he is..."
The guy is almost as much of a troll as Trump. I warned him that his car/tires/paint probably wouldn't last a week if he put that on his truck.
He should take out the battery and leave it in his driveway. Then set up a hidden surveillance camera and sue the ever loving fuck out of whatever asshole democrat messes with the truck because of a bumper sticker.
Obama is a woman?
When he first ran, the support he got was proof of how racist the country still is. The argument boiled down to, we need a black president. Ability, accomplishments, wisdom, character ? Nah, people flat out said they were voting for the color of his skin.
Actually people told me they voted for him because McCain promised to continue the Iraq War for another 50 years but your skin color theory is interesting. How come they didn't just vote for Herman Cain?
If only. He'll be painted as the greatest president ever, who deftly steered us out of the Bush years and reigned over years of unprecedented prosperity. They rewrite history with the best of them
I suspect history will remember him as being divisive because of the color of his skin.
Note that, as absolutely insane as "It is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book" is, Politifact can't bring themselves to rate it as "Pants on Fire," choosing a weaselly "Mostly False". They tie themselves in knots blathering about numbers of bookstores and ignore that all kinds of stores, from Walmart to Goodwill and other thrift shops, have book sections. Not only that, but they also justify it by saying that inner city kids probably know somebody with access to guns -- ignoring that they damn sure know people with access to books, too (like teachers, counselors, social workers, ministers, any literate adult, etc.).
Politifact is terrible.
They called "More white people are killed each year by police than black people" half true, even though it's 100 percent absolutely true.
There's a point to be made about why that is and population makeup, etc. But that statement is ABSOLUTELY TRUE, not half true.
Yes he is bad but at least he gives lip service to free speech and religion - our most important rights. He is far better than Hitlary or Der Drumpf on the issue. And he's kept us from becoming more like Europe: German police launch first nationwide hate speech raids. (Weimar blasphemy laws, anyone?) For that I'm grateful for the Obozo.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! OMG, you just absolutely made me pee my pants laughing!
Oh, did you ever pay up?
Yeah, shreek must think this is opposite day, or something.
"We need to rethink our position on free speech. The rest of the world doesnt see free speech the way we do."
That lip service?
How about trying to prosecute oil companies and think tanks for being global warming deniers? More examples of his respect for free speech?
Go fuck yerself shreek.
That sounds like something Loretta would say. Not Obozo.
Here's something Obozo said:
"Don't feel like you got to shut your ears off because you're too fragile and somebody might offend your sensibilities."
We must not leave the future to those who would defile the name of theprophet mohammed.
Benghazi was the result of a youtube video and we need to arrest its creator.
Pretty compelling support for the 1A.
good point, but ironically he said both things.
I wonder how many police raids Germany launched in the late 1930's.
Do you know who else...damn...
"to the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you, too."
this is what obama said after the 2014 elections. in his mind, by not voting, those 2/3 were signaling that they agreed with him, so why would he care that democrats lost horribly....most people agreed with him, and he's the only one who noticed. he's special that way.
You order the killing of a young teen and his friends eating breakfast and you are goddamn right I am not with you. How could any rational person, even a very left-wing one, excuse that behaviour? So his dad was a bad guy...okay why was John Gotti's teenage son not imprisoned along with his dad? He MIGHT grow up to be a mobster, right?
As for the arguments that books are hard to find in poor areas, how about Goodwill stores? They are not, and they sell used books - cheap. How about those failing schools in poor areas? I don't think lack of any books is why they fail. And don't get me started on computers. Is the man not aware that cell phones have computers built right into them? How many poor people don't have a cell phone? Give me a break.
Just curious, anyone ever heard of fucking AMAZON? Most kids, even in the inner city, actually have those phone gizmos from which, you know, you can order shit.
Do not schools / municipalities have libraries? One does not have to buy a book to benefit from it.
Good point. They have smartphones. Those ARE computers. And they dont need books with the internet at their fingertips. Kindle app among others, and millions of free books, not to mention other educational materials. Besides, dont we fund free internet for the poor? Obamaphones? Etc.
+1 Obamaphones
Plenty of people put out books to give away. Seriously, books are (a substantial amount of) garbage.
It's what psychologists call "projection". Mofo assumes that everyone is as much of a hateful, enraged SOB as he is.
Projection is pretty much what the left does in general.
We are better than this, he says.
Uh, apparently *not*.
Yes, there are racists and bigots in all our institutions and communities, but most Americans don't need to "open our hearts" on the subject simply because liberals accuse them of harboring ugly thoughts.
Nuh uh... I was told by a liberal that I can be a racist piece of shit without being a Klansman
Check your privilege, racist. You don't have to say, do, or even think anything, you are racist because you do not belong to a bona fide victim group.
And somebody has to be the bad guy, capiche? Otherwise who would they blame for their own problems?
Holy shit. The talking heads are going nuts this morning. Obumbles is getting the most blistering criticism I have heard to date...I mean they are finally taking the gloves off.
My wife - "What the hell? Are they using your posts on Reason for the last 8 years as a script?"
I guess reality eventually sinks in.
Conversation with a friend -
Me - "If you let savages in your country this is what you get. Savagery."
Friend - "Thats crazy. You cant say things like that. It's racist."
Me - "It's not crazy, it's obvious. Living in a fantasy world is crazy."
Hmmm, you're either with us or agin us, eh? I've heard that before actually said, and not implied, as Harsanyi does.
Oh that's right, GW Bush's exhortation for the misbegotten Iraq adventure. One Harsanyi helped sell at the outset.
Good try, Harsanyi. Check the mirror.
Sept. 13, 2001, seven days before Bush's use of the phrase, Senator Hillary Clinton said, "Every nation has to either be with us or against us. Those who harbor terrorists or who finance them are going to pay a price." Maybe Bush borrowed that rhetoric from her?
Bush is the biggest monster since Hitler and the fact that you tried to smear Her Excelency by tying his statement to her shows how much of a Team Red cheerleader you are. Also, you're a misogynist.
/sarc
I'm self-flagellating right now. (Sad face, bowed head)
I truly detest Bush, but "biggest monster since Hitler" So hard, there is SO much competition for that title.
He may have. After all, she was a big supporter of the Iraq War. And Bush got his marching orders from many people I guess, maybe not just Cheney. Clinton too!
And still...Harsanyi as well. He still needs to look in the mirror. But thanks.
GW Bush's exhortation for the misbegotten Iraq adventure.
It is comforting to see your memory is as weak as everything else in your intellect. What Bush said was And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. And he was talking about the perpetrators of 9-11.
Thanks.
It's still use of the same kind of argument mentioned above. One that Harsanyi has disdain for. Unless of course it supports something he believes in. He's not big on principle.
It's still use of the same kind of argument mentioned above.
I'm looking for a good set of portable goalposts, where did you find yours, at the Sports Authority liquidation sale?
Of course the big difference is that Obama is saying that to the American people, not countries aiding and abetting terrorist.
But you knew that, didn't you?
"a kind of spiritual certitude that justifies circumventing debate."
Pretty much explains it. I don't care, if you disagree you are a racist, misogynist, hate children, are blind to your privilege, or just an all around retrograde troglodyte.
I been called all of them. And yet "I'm as happy as a June bug."
We will put our boots to the neck of those who disagree with us, thats some uniting words form Obama right from the start, and they call republicans racist.
We're going to need a collective shower after this fool.
If by racist he means smarter and better looking, then yeah..
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RE: How Obama Divides America
You're either with him or one of the bad guys
One must realize that Dear Leader does not divide the untermenschen here in the USA. There are only doubters and racists who oppose him and his wise socialist policies. Such people are obviously either unenlightened in the judicious policies of socialist thought or counter-revolutionaries capitalist pigs that are working for the nefarious Koch brothers. We must all be grateful for Dear Leader's wise policies of increasing our national debt, pushing socialized medicine, engaging in selective cronyism with British Petroleum, Solyandra, etc., and keeping our armed forces in Iraq and other places so they can continue to engage in realistic war games. I think I can speak for everyone here that it will be a sad day when Dear Leader will no longer leading us toward the conclusion of the Great People's Revolution.
summary of leftist delusions: we're all a bunch of racists and even if we've never done or said anything racist to anyone, we're just a racist for not recognizing our own racism.
^THIS^
You must realize that your failure to openly engage in racism against members those races that have in the past had members engaged in racist behavior is prima facia evidence of your racistm. The lack of appropriate racism is racist comrade.
I think it's funny how most leftists love to mock religion, particularly Christianity, yet their philosophy pretty much boils down to "you have all sinned and you can only redeem yourselves by submitting to the will of the Democrat Party".
as did Bush...as do they all
According to the Drug Policy Alliance:
Although rates of drug use and selling are comparable across racial lines, people of color are far more likely to be stopped, searched, arrested, prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated for drug law violations than are whites.
http://www.drugpolicy.org/race-and-drug-war
Who supports the racist war on drugs?
Obama.
Therefore Obama is racist.
Excellent article Mr. Harsanyi. Spot on.
Maybe one day Obo will make a speech that isn't about him. Maybe.
Let's just say it, the "new" Democrats are the Nihilist zealots of old, with a 17th century Calvinist's absolute assurance of the sanctity of their righteous agenda.
,,it's been a long time since we've had a president as divisive as Barack Obama.
'A, so very true comment.
Barak Obama in actuality is a very small man in mental capacity and depth. He has no real character or moral code. He simply doesn't have the mental strength to analyze problems. His rhetoric is pretty much the same when he address every problem. He either blames conservative, the police or racism. I don't think he is mentally equipped to solve the root cause of problems. His shallowness is evident by how he reacts to a tragedy. He goes on vacation or to the golf course and leaves his underlings to take care of them. If anyone thinks that Hillary Clinton is much different they will have a rude awakening.
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If you put your ear close to Hihn's head, you can actually hear the arteries cracking. Fun for the whole family!
In today's latest gibber, in Hihnworld, brick and mortar is the only thing that exists, which excuses the Politifact hackery.
There's no thrift shops or Walmartd in poor neighborhoods?
Why are you trying so hard to rationalize a blatant lie? Why let someone else off the hook for not calling a spade a spade?
Nobody needs to play the little proof game you're suggesting at the end of your comment because of how obvious the economics of the situation is. Guns are expensive, even stolen ones. Books are cheap (free in lots of cases).
It is extremely common for people who make lower income to have smart phones. Take a train or bus in an urban area and most of the passengers will be hunched over theirs. Those are computers. They're more powerful by several orders of magnitude than the first computer I learned to program. Myth busted.
So Amazon can have a glock delivered to me next day anywhere in the country? sweet!
"He said easier than" and he also said A book. Not even a particular book.
Ever been in a thrift store in a poor neighborhood? You know, one of those second hand places like Goodwill, St. Vincent DePaul, Salvation Army, etc.? I've been in many over the years. Every single fucking one has had a book section, if even a small one. Zero had gun sections.
We have had years of programs designed to get books into poor neighborhoods like RIF and charity programs that collect and distribute used books. Zero programs to distribute guns to kids.
We have libraries, book mobiles, school libraries, book sale programs in the schools, and other programs. Do you know of a big building full of guns I can show a library card at and come out with ten guns? Didn't think so.
Did you know you can also get books by mail? You don't even need a credit card: you can get a money order at the payday loan in your crappy neighborhood, or send cash if you have to. Plenty of companies sell books by mail. Zero selling guns legally by mail.
Ever seen a church in a poor neighborhood? The Bible, the Koran, the Book of Mormon: all books. Often given out for free to the poor.
And this assumes that there's not one single person that kid could give the $50 the Glock would cost him and say, "Hey, could you pick me up some books?"
Got a smart phone? E-books. No e-guns.
The idea that it is easier to get a gun is moronic. Period.
We probably shouldn't really make fun of an old man suffering from dementia. Although he does get pretty irritating.
Book. Deserts.
The progressives who run those neighborhoods always run Wal-Mart or of town.
nope,
no schools,
no libraries,
no bus service
no churches
In fact, the sun only shines from 2 to 3 in the morning when the 'burbs aren't using it and there is only oxygen in the air on alternating days. They had to put up armed guards at the perimeter of every poor neighborhood to make sure no one escaped. And Mexico paid for walls around them.
Of course we should. Part of the fun is realizing that in an hour, he'll have already forgotten, and the next time we do it, he'll be wondering, "Why has everyone started hurling abuse at me? This seems to be something new."
Well, it is funny. And I'll probably continue to do it. But I'm not sure I shouldn't feel a little guilty about it.
BULLY!
As Mencken said, "A pinch of guilt is the most savory condiment on the ham sandwich of victory." or something similar.
Thank you, Teddy Roosevelt.
*hands over towel to wipe drool off chin*
Heh. That is not a Mencken quote.
Corpsefucking a thread is not very persuasive.
(GIGGLES)
Yeah, but he's practically a corpse himself, so....
Hmm...you're right.
But Mencken wrote a bestselling memoir, if memory serves.
Facts are cyber-bullying!!!
I wonder if Obama phones are smart phones if so there are websites where you can download books for free.
Amazon sells new tablets for $30-$40. Fucking ridiculous to say that access to computers is hard to come by anywhere
Typing baseless assertions in bold font is super cool you guys
Dude, you crack me up. You post a rather abrasive response to a genuine critique and go all vindictive and unhinged when the commentariat gives the abrasiveness right back? Lol, welcome to the internet homie.
Something something golden rule.
Then again, why are you defending Politifact, I mean who cares anyway?
Yes, those cops are murderers, and should be prosecuted and put in jail, as should any cop who does something like that.
But in your mind, that justifies the president unleashing his dogs to engage in revenge killings? You sound like an Obama momma.
Your response to my comment was a totally fucking retarded attempt at a diversion and had nothing whatsoever to do with the point of the article in the first place, which is that Obama intentionally divides the country for political gain.
A real leader would respond to terrible incidents like these in a much more responsible and unifying way. But of course you think his divisive and hateful responses are fine, because you're an Obama momma.
Lol, this should be fun.
(uproarious laughter) HE CITED POLITIFACT .... I DOCUMENTED THAT HE LIED, chump
Funny how you didn't answer my question. Also, it's also not a lie when it's an opinion. Stating an opinion that Politifact should have rated something differently isn't lying. (Chump, lol)
nine motherfuckers went ape-shit defending the lie
I saw them make fun of you, not defend the supposed lie. Given your abrasiveness, I don't blame them. And well, you know, this was the whole point of my post. Thanks for reinforcing it.
we now add you to the psycho bullies
Lol, me bullying? The projection must be stinging for you. Either way, yawn...
documented aggressor
If someone dares criticize you or (gasp) point out that you get what you give, it's aggressing... Hahahahahahahaha! Also, words.... on an internet forum.... aggressing? Hahahaha.
How about, instead you add me to the list of people that think you are completely insane? (Snicker)
I repeat again, since you didn't disprove my point (which you also completely missed): something something golden rule.
God save us from the militant self-righteous
Also, projecting. Also, YOUR LIE HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED (laughter)
I saw them make fun of you
Since I know what your first response is going to be, I should clarify that I was talking about upthread, only.
Michael, are you old enough to remember to Lucy Show?
Here we go ..
Miiiichael! Let me 'splain this to you!
You offered no facts, only opinion.
You offered no documentation other than quoting another opinion.
You faced no aggression and you were not attacked, they are making fun of you for being a fool.
(Helpful Hint: The easiest way to avoid this is to stop being a fool.)
I was impressed that you knew how to spell smirk snicker, AND knew how to type quotation marks.
Just to help you out, a bigot is "a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion" (Dictionary.com). Since everyone in this discussion but you seems to be able to disagree in a civil manner, it would seem that there is likely only one bigot present.
You should commit suicide. Best thing for you really Your posts are going nowhere.
It actually doesn't matter what you call the program, or who you credit (or blame) for it. The fact is that the phones are likely smart phones and they can be used to read downloaded books. There are lots of books that can be downloaded for free.
I notice you don't address the meat of the comments, but rather attack the real or perceived partisan views of the writer.
I remember the comment, but I believe he has not gotten it exactly right. I might look for it later and see if I can run it down. Obama has been all over the place on free speech. A bit better lately I believe.
I don't believe that Reason is a safe zone or any militant racists other than you, and I am not so sure about you. Blatantly racist comments tend to get put down pretty quickly here.
There is truth in some of what you point out though. Most of those who claim to be libertarian, do not want to be associated with Libertarian. I am one of those who was a Libertarian, and decided that the party is pretty much self defeating and dominated by loony tunes folks without a strong link to reality.
Now, you should be pleased that his site does not moderate comments, as most of yours would be moderated elsewhere. I wish you would kick it down a couple of notches, but I do appreciate that you are not moderated here and prefer that all comments be permitted.
No, I am not ashamed. I am disappointed that we don't have a viable 3rd party, but Libertarians do not have a reputation of being good at the nuts and bolts of politics. The truth is Libertarians do not have track record of being good at getting things accomplished on local levels and that is where it starts.
The conversations involving Wood Chippers etc, are hyperbole. Intelligent people can easily identify the comments as such. The problem with moderation, is it leads to the shit that gets practiced at other sites, where I would have had to spell that word $H1T to avoid moderation delays or deletion.
Since everyone in this discussion but you seems to be able to disagree in a civil manner, it would seem that there is likely only one bigot present.
Yup, Mike, this.
I've been lurking for quite a while, so I've seen a lot of your interactions. Maybe I've got your intentions wrong, but if your comments aren't hypocritical, they are at the very least counterproductive to what I perceive as your goals by posting here.
Calling folks bigots while not being able to disagree politely. Complaining about aggression, after aggressing (by your definition, not mine) against SadlyShakingHead (and he's just one example). Complaining about others being self-righteous, while being a textbook case. Complaining about bullies, while bullying anyone who disagrees. I could go on.
Call it concern trolling if you want, but if you want to change hearts and minds here, you need a long look in the mirror first. FWIW, I'm actually sincere with that last sentence as I do think you have some insights to give. Are you going to bully me again, anyway?
Look, I can't recall too many folks, and certainly few here, that do not think the cops need to be reformed and dialed back. That does not make them the Klan.
The Klan comments are cheap shots when the real issue is that the cops often operate like a military unit with a "with us or against us" view. They begin to see themselves as "the brotherhood of cops" against everyone else. It is one of the (many) reasons that police departments should not be militarized.
This mentality, leads to criminal behavior by cops, leads to organized crime (MAFIA) style behavior in fact. Complete with hits, street beatings, and all the rest of it. This is not usually race related so much as it is crime, or "respect" related.
The cops do this to non-blacks as much as whites (although not proportionately). It is not primarily a race thing. This means you can't fix it, with racial sensitivity training. It is a natural development of large police departments used to regulate a population where anything can be a crime. It is also a natural development of criminalizing "vice" where the police learn to put up a show of enforcement and look the other way at the right time, and for the right compensation.
The single largest problem with identifying everything as racial bias, is that it makes real reform LESS likely.
Michael,
The point made was that the smartphones of the poor exist. No one even said it was a bad thing that they had "Obama Phones". It does not matter why, or how, they have them. They point is that they actually have them.
The rest of your post is a WTF? and completely off topic.
If you can't assemble a compelling argument, it is always better to use boldface and caps.
I am not disagreeing with you, I don't know.
I have gotten back in the habit of using Dogpile as a search aggregator though. Google is censoring responses pretty extensively it seems, so I like getting results from a variety of search engines in hopes of getting more complete results.
good point, how DID Obama get to be part of quotes by Clinton and Bush?
One would think that a kid's parents would have at least some books in the home, like a Bible...
God save us from your gibbering trolling.
Lol, this is too good.
So first you criticize me for adding something to my post, and then proceed to require three posts to respond. More documented hypocrisy
Next up, more bully language:
Are you lying or illiterate?
You quote your own bullying/aggression of SadlyShakingHead. Then of course proceed to futher bully me. More documented hypocrisy
Politifact graded down because
And when they grade down, no matter the reasoning, that, my friend, is opinion. The grade, at the end of the day, is a judgement call. (chortle)
Haha, I'll let your comment stand on it's own. You do realize that after:
in a comment which launched aggression
You linked to your own comment. Which is appropriate. (Guffaw)
Nice Freudien slip there homie.
What you obtusely can't admit is that virtually no-one uses the word aggression as cheaply as you do. And even fewer than that in libertarian circles (it's very possible that you are the only one). You can pedantically (and neurotically) hold on to your definition if you want, but I'd wager everyone, including me, is laughing at you for doing so.
Just trying to help you see the obvious. But, I'm sure more bullying of the messenger is inbound.
Bonus tip:
I have decided that, as your actions are clearly counterproductive, your intentions are other than trying to change hearts and minds here. You are likely just trying to wreck things after being frustrated for who knows how long. Thus, you are not arguing in good faith.
Am I wrong? If so, how about you show me with actions rather than spittle? You know, how about you attempt to change my heart and mind?
Why would a libertarian give a shit if goobers live or die?
Sigh, I am a libertarian and I care very much if people live or die.
You fuck up conservatism
Proof? I mean, here you are lumping me in with the others, yet I've been far more civil in this discourse than you. You know, for a "libertarian" you sure do collectivize quite a bit.
Also, do you honestly think that conservatives read your rage filled, ridiculously exaggerated, victim card playing, cheap shot filled posts and come away with a more positive view of libertarianism? Speaking of jackasses...
and MACHO enough, (can you growl?) then the gang won't think you're a pussy. It's like young boys comparing their dicks.
I just don't even.... I was led to believe that you are an older fellow, yet here you are acting 12. I would comment about projection again, but everyone else reading this already knows and you seem rather averse to introspection.
Also, you were right when you said that I don't matter. I know this, which is what makes the statement above all the more comically wrong. Seriously dude, would I try and reach you (who seems to be reviled here) if I wanted to impress "the gang"?
However, here's one last attempt at sincerity (even though you've shown me none): You probably do matter, at least in some small sphere, and as has been my point all along, your behavior is counterproductive at best.
Apologize to Morpheus and everyone else for wasting their time. We're all very busy here and have no time for your gibbering antics.
And we all no full well this punk Hihn would never dare say shit, even if he had a mouthful of it if he were around any of us in person. He would most likely cower and be deferential.
Ranting and raving and attacking everyone isn't 'proof'. Goddamn you're fucking stupid.
You clearly do not.
You're the main aggressor here.
So why ARE you a bullying aggressive hater?
Kind of like having a kind word and a gun, instead of just a kind word?
Your lack of self awareness is truly breathtaking.
I don;t think i've overpaid this about anyone here before, even PB, Tony, or AmSoc, but can we get rid of this guy? He's threadjacking and trolling to a point where the whole comment section is just sorting through his horseshit. Most of which he cuts and pastes repetitively.
Are his comments fair game for the spam button?
Sigh, well, can't say I didn't try Mike. I really do think you could do some good if you made an effort to be polite.
I do feel bad for you though, it really must suck to be such a bitter, angry, man. Always tearing others down... Constantly bullying people... No sense of self-esteem... No sense of self-awareness... No sense of irony... You should lighten up, seriously. I bet you'd be happier.
BTW: Your links don't document anything remotely resembling your claims. I'm not the fool here, and I really couldn't care less if you think otherwise. A claim of foolishness is an appeal to others' opinions. You want to find me even one person here that agrees with you? Lol, don't let reality interfere with you being a legend in your own mind. Also, I'd refute your lame attempts at juvenile insults, but they remind me of what my kids say to me when they're angry. I know you don't mean them, I mean how can you? You don't even know what you're talking about.
Anyway, I've got people to help, stuff to do, actual good in the world to spread.
Peace out bra.
Of course Comrade Michael.
If you don't follow every word of Dear Leader's with baited breath, you must be racist.
Just like if you don't believe Heil Hitary's words with baited breath, you must be a misogynist.
Good thinking from a socialist totalitarian turd.
I make no bones I'm a libertarian.
BTW, your web archive won't pop up, just like anything sane that will pop up in your empty socialist slaving mind.