Easter Bombing in Pakistan, Clashes at Brussels Victims Shrine, Sanders Wins Alaska, Hawaii, Washingtonn: A.M. Links

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  A suicide bomber killed at least 67 people in a park in Lahore on Easter Sunday. An offshoot of the Pakistan Taliban said it had deliberately targeted Christians.

• Hooligans clashed with police at a temporary shrine for the victims of the Brussels terrorist attack.
• Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders won primary contests in Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington, saying there remained for him a "path to victory."
• Lawmakers and labor unions in California reportedly struck a deal to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.
• A petition to permit guns into the Republican convention in Cleveland this summer has garnered more than 35,000 signatures, with Donald Trump saying he'd have to look at the "fine print" of the non-binding, Change.org petition.
• The mayor of Chicago rejected the hiring recommendations of a police board and is set to appoint the chief of patrol, who did not apply for the job, as police superintendent instead.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Lawmakers and labor unions in California reportedly struck a deal to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

Because who needs jobs.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Well, California makes for such a welcoming business environment, I'm sure even more companies will come flooding in because of all that extra money people will have, right?

[Just a thought not a sermon]

Might not be too bad for LA or San Francisco, but try finding a job in Bakersfield after this.

[Citizen X]

I thought the only employers in Bakersfield at the best of times were the American Nazis and some of the larger meth labs.

[Swiss Servator]

Are those mutually exclusive?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

I thought that was everybody that lived in Bakersfield (Nazis with large meth labs).

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Hello.

Happy Easter Monday.

[Hamster of Doom]

That's not a real holiday.

/suspicious

[Just a thought not a sermon]

I just checked the calendar in my cubicle and Easter Monday is on there....

[UnCivilServant]

If you're in a cubicle, it can't be a holiday.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Maybe he has one at home?

[Hamster of Doom]

Kinky.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

You don't want to know what happens when I get called to the boss's office.

[Hamster of Doom]

Is it like Boxing Day? What laziness and/or goodies do I get to justify today? This is important, some of us grew up Baptists in the PNW and don't understand y'alls mysticism.

I remember moving to Michigan when I was nineteen, and being stunned that Good Friday was a real holiday. "WTF is Good Friday?"

[Rich]

"WTF is Good Friday?"

Sheesh, everybody knows it's the first Friday before the first full moon after the vernal equinox.

[Certified Public Asshat]

My Super Mario calendar also has Easter Monday on it.

[Lee G]

Eddie will be along shortly to explain it with ten posts and 5 youtube videos.

[straffinrun]

I

[straffinrun]

see

[straffinrun]

what

[Slammer]

LOL

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Monks chanting for eight hours.

Rufus (gets out of bed in pajamas and doll): SHUT THE FUCK UP!

And I'm never buying any of you gifts.

[Rich]

gets out of bed in pajamas and doll

WTF, Rufus?!

[Citizen X]

Like you've never skinned a Real Doll and made a cloak out of it to get through a Canadian winter.

[Hamster of Doom]

Bugger the gifts, send pics of the doll.

[Hamster of Doom]

Bugger the gifts, send pics of the doll.

[Swiss Servator]

One set should be enough, Tim.

[Hamster of Doom]

I got all excited.

[Old Man With Candy]

I have that effect on women.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Oh like you do sleep with a doll.

Please.

[UnCivilServant]

I have to work, thus it's not a holiday.

[Raven Nation]

I miss the four-day Easter weekend.

[Swiss Servator]

Tell me about it. I am stuck hiding "lost" war gold and thinking how neutral we can be, and the bosses in the CH are on day 4 of their break.

[Mickey Rat]

You mean Dyngus Day.

[Mickey Rat]

Where is my pussy willow switch?

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Happy Bright Week, Rufus!

[rudehost]

This will be interesting. Right now in CA 1.2 percent of workers make the minimum wage. It's really only 0.5% most likely because 0.7% make less than the minimum which will mostly be tipped workers who typically make quite a bit more when including tips.

That would lead me to believe a small increase would likely have little effect. How much can you really hurt the economy as a whole when you are affecting some fraction of 0.5% of the work force with slight shift in the cost curve? I suspect that is why economic studies on the minimum in the 70's and earlier showed huge impacts from increases and recent studies don't. It is a completely different ballgame when you raise the minimum by 50% as they plan here. I'm going to get some popcorn because this is going to be hysterical to watch.

[UnCivilServant]

Hysterical from where you sit, this shit is getting pushed where I live!

[rudehost]

My condolences. Dark comedies are always fun for the audiences not so much for the characters.

[Rhywun]

Upstate NY doesn't need more than 23 jobs.

[Old Man With Candy]

That would lead me to believe a small increase would likely have little effect.

Large effect. Many union contracts have compensation tied to minimum wage.It's not the McDonald's soon-to-be-replaced-dullards, it's the pipefitters, road crews, electricians, and roofers who reap the benefits.

[rudehost]

I have heard that argued although I haven't seen or really bothered to look for the evidence. That said the recent evidence on the effect of small wage increases (Card and Krueger's original fraud aside) is at best mixed. I have a hard time reconciling that with basic economic theory using anything other than my suggested explanation.

[Hyperbolical]

It may be a small percentage but there could be compounding of that small percentage when young and inexperienced people cannot find jobs to get them started in the job market. These will become unemployable and then a new group of young people will come along and slip into perpetual unemployability. Then they will likely spawn offspring who will not learn to work. And a new generation of unemployable young adults emerges.

What your percentages really show is that sub $15/hour wages are not really an economic problem and should be allowed so that young and inexperienced people can can started in the workforce.

[rudehost]

yes they also show that.

[Rhywun]

Many union contracts have compensation tied to minimum wage.

Which is why they have a seat at the table for these decisions. Well, they always do anyway - but in this case they're pretty much running the show.

[AlmightyJB]

What's min wage in CA now? Same as Federal?

[rudehost]

10 bucks an hour. No I don't memorize this stuff. I had to look it up earlier.

[AlmightyJB]

That's a pretty large increase. Not sure what market would be but sounds like from your numbers above they could get away with a buck or two with probably very little impact. Not sure about 50% though.

[CE]

10.50

[Hamster of Doom]

It isn't just those making minimum. It's everyone making minimum wage to $15, and probably you can add five percent on top to include the effect on those who have worked their way to real responsibility within their career path and will now be at the bottom of the pay scale again.

[rudehost]

I understand. If you read my comment I was arguing this would have a large net effect but a raise from say 10 to 10.50 probably wouldn't.

[UnCivilServant]

We should increase to 8.50, with further increases to 7.25, 5.15, 3.65, 1.00 and 0 over the next six years.

[rudehost]

Excellent idea. I knew common core math would come in handy eventually.

[UnCivilServant]

Oh, yea, I forgot the tag:

/Ingsoc math

[Hamster of Doom]

I was agreeing with you, I merely think it's going to be a bit more pervasive in effect. So, all that, yes.

[rudehost]

Sorry I thought that was a criticism. I expect the effects to be cataclysmic. Given the size of CA's economy it may wind up having a measurable effect on the rest of the country too.

[UnCivilServant]

Measureable effect to include an increase in the rate companies flee california for saner pastures.

[rudehost]

It usually isn't a simple matter to just pull up stakes and leave. It usually takes time. But yeah I would bet a lot of them move to greener pastures over a several year period.

[Hamster of Doom]

California, Illinois and one other big location could kill the dollar menu concept nationwide.

[Swiss Servator]

*Looks out window at fast food places. Single tear runs down cheek*

[Steve G]

But what's the percentage of workers between the current min wage and $15? You're being disingenuous just snapping the chalkline at the current min wage.

[Steve G]

Oops, refresh

[rudehost]

Damn what is the issue with reading comprehension today.

" It is a completely different ballgame when you raise the minimum by 50% as they plan here. "

Does it sound like I am in any way saying this isn't going to be a disaster? I hate it when reason posters mimic the people at huffpo.

[Swiss Servator]

And you missed his 9:28, didn't you 🙂

[Steve G]

Here's an idea, don't bury the thesis of a paragraph at the bottom of a paragraph and maybe people wouldn't form an early conclusion by the very huffpo-like lead-off sentence.

[Bubba Jones]

One of our truck stop chains advertises a minimum starting wage of $13/hr. In the middle of freaking nowhere. Stocking shelves. In Texas.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

t's really only 0.5% most likely because 0.7% make less than the minimum which will mostly be tipped workers who typically make quite a bit more when including tips.

No, it's 1.2%. California doesn't have separate tipped and untipped minimum wages.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders won primary contests in Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington, saying there remained for him a "path to victory."

Victory certainly not being defined as the nomination.

[rudehost]

Revolutions don't require nominations. They just require guns and Che Guevara t-shirts or brown shirts if wal-mart happens to be sold out.

[Citizen X]

You left out novelty Ben 'n' Jerry's ice cream flavors.

[Raven Nation]

Maybe Bernie will fundamentally change the Democrats as Ron Paul fundamentally changed the GOP...

[Jerryskids]

We all know Bernie has always had a path to victory, did anybody ask him if he thinks he has a path to victory that doesn't include Hillary in an orange jumpsuit?

[CE]

If he keeps getting 70+ percent of the vote, he will get the nomination. Clinton is a terrible candidate.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

155) So DC's mayor wants to raise the minimum wage in DC to $15 by 2020.
First thought: DC is the worst place possible to try raising the minimum wage to a ridiculous level. It's geographically compact, so easy for retail and restaurant jobs to migrate to surrounding jurisdictions. And it's only recently recovered from the flight of retail from the city following the '68 riots?it will be easy for residents to resume their former shopping patterns of leaving the city for groceries, furniture, clothes, dining, etc., leaving only the expense-account places.
Second thought: DC, California, Seattle, Denver, etc. all want $15 minimum wages. Why is $15 the magic number? Why not $14 or $16 or $15.37?

[Hamster of Doom]

Ten would be too low, and twenty sounds too much like real money.

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

Flawless. Must have a civic planning degree and thirty five years experience.

[Hamster of Doom]

I'll be using your comment as a personal reference.

[Hamster of Doom]

I'll be using your comment as a personal reference.

[Brett L]

Why not $30 or $50 in California so people can actually pay rent to live in the city of San Francisco? Once you start making an argument that markets can't set the rate, why fuck around?

[derpules]

This

[derpules]

This

[Lee G]

The minimum wage is always zero.

[Episiarch]

Because "$15" is the number that says "we are the most progressive, because that's the number that we've made fashionable". The politicians approve these things because they want to be the "first". They're in a competition to out-progressive each other, and they don't give a *shit* about the actual consequences. They care whether at the meeting of mayors/councilpersons/aldermen/etc of bigger cities they can brag that they preside over the city that did it sooner than the others. They are completely and totally disconnected from the actual results, on the ground, of the shit they do.

[Lee G]

+2 degrees C

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Same logic must apply to bans on plastic bags and bottles.

[CE]

And unused mandatory parking spaces for "clean air vehicles".

[Lord Humungus]

Who invited Epi to the morning links pickle party?

[Rich]

Why not $14 or $16 or $15.37?

"Oh, very well. $17.76!"

[Swiss Servator]

*narrows patriotic gaze*

[SugarFree]

It "doubles" minimum wage while also being a round number that's easy to rhyme for mindless chants.

[Rich]

"Don't be mean!
Give us fifteen!"

[straffinrun]

You saying my "Zero for Zeros" has a shot?

[Jerryskids]

I'm sure there's a scientific study out there that shows $15 is the perfect balance between fairness and greed.

[Mr. Flanders]

$15 was chosen because the slogan "fight for fifteen" rolls off the tongue.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Stand up for seventeen!

[Fist of Etiquette]

The mayor of Chicago rejected the hiring recommendations of a police board and is set to appoint the chief of patrol, who did not apply for the job, as police superintendent instead.

When you have a systemic problem obviously the solution will come from inside the system.

[Hamster of Doom]

Well, obviously the people who created the problem will understand it best.

[Old Man With Candy]

Pigmentation was qualification. It was VERY important that this be a Chicago person with melanin. Because that couldn't possibly be someone who promotes brutality.

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

Sarkeesian: "The thing about structural change is, [wave motion with hands], people have to follow those structures."

[Bubba Jones]

I kinda like the idea of giving the job to someone who didn't want it.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hooligans clashed with police at a temporary shrine for the victims of the Brussels terrorist attack.

Belgian hooligans, eh?

[Just a thought not a sermon]

I imagine them carrying saxophones and accompanied by faithful white fox terriers.

[Jerryskids]

+444 pounds, 4 shillings, 4 pence

[Mazakon]

A petition to permit guns into the Republican convention in Cleveland this summer has garnered more than 35,000 signatures, with Donald Trump saying he'd have to look at the "fine print" of the non-binding, Change.org petition.

That was pretty weird. No matter how much Trump was asked about the idea of letting people carry guns at the convention, he just kept going back to having to see the petition first.

[Brett L]

What the fuck does Change.org have to do with the RNC? Why would you engage a gotcha site that is 90% a DemOcratic operative site?

[Old Man With Candy]

90%????

[Brett L]

I hedged, I didn't want to be called a Hit'n'Runpublican.

[DaveSs]

The whole point of the petition is to embarrass republicans.

"See, Republicans want everyone to carry guns in public but they don't want anyone to carry guns around them. Bunch of hypocrites"

Of course they'll neglect to mention that the the owners of the venues forbid firearms.
Secret Service would undoubtedly nix the idea even if the venue owners didn't.

[Brett L]

If the Secret Service actually had to protect their charges in dangerous situations, it would cut into their hooker and booze time. This way is better (for them).

[Bee Tagger]

Donald Trump saying he'd have to look at the "fine print" of the non-binding, Change.org petition.

Don't you mean anti-yuge print?

[Slammer]

*gaze goes from yuge to narrowed* (h/t to swiss)

[Swiss Servator]

Danke.

[Fist of Etiquette]

An offshoot of the Pakistan Taliban said it had deliberately targeted Christians.

Because they know that Christians are the last group it's still politically correct to attack?

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

Question. Were said Christians the "good" kind or the "bad" kind. Good here meaning white.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...with Donald Trump saying he'd have to look at the "fine print" of the non-binding, Change.org petition.

Strong conservative leadership the Trumpbots should come to expect?

[Hamster of Doom]

Bold man of action.

[Episiarch]

I'm sure they'll convince themselves that that's what it is. That's what they do, after all.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Gun ownership should be banned until we can figure out what's going on with this petition.

[Bee Tagger]

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders won primary contests in Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington, saying there remained for him a "path to victory."

Sounds like Washington wants to be removed from the contiguous 48 club.

[Swiss Servator]

They are along the "Ring of Fire", so it could happen...

[Pope Jimbo]

I'm not an expert at reading tweets, but this story about a guy being arrested in the UK for inciting racial unrest totally baffles me.

I can't find any tweet in that story that seems inflammatory enough to warrant an arrest.

[Brett L]

Its meant to prevent the western oriental gents frim rioting, not that he was saying anything particularly racist or inciteful. Think of being sensitive to the point of stupidity as the 21st century's white man's burden in Britain.

[straffinrun]

If you can't see it, we may have to arrest you.

[Rich]

As for his more inflammatory tweets, Mr Doyle claims they're intended as a joke, which people who know him would understand as "that's absolutely not who I am."

Tell it to the woodchipper, uh, JUDGE!

[Free Society]

He gives a lot of excuses. Just own it. Practitioners of Islam suck, the more practice, the more they suck. Now I understand it's a good idea to deflect and disavow the "far-right" because we are talking about a place where you will be jailed for offending the colonists.

[Citizen X]

Collectivize much?

[SugarFree]

It's all he has.

[Hamster of Doom]

He did say something funny once.

[SugarFree]

He apologized later and called it an accident.

[Free Society]

Hypocrite much? You've never bitched about communists? Progressives? Socialists? Have you only ever made arguments against or drawn conclusions only about individuals? This juvenile "don't collectivize, bro" meme has run it's course. There exist groups of people that one can differentiate by their beliefs, practices and norms et cetera. Some of these groups consist of individuals that tend to suck more than individuals in other groups. Get over it and accept it, then you can quit pretending that "stop collectivizing" is some gotcha argument that's worth the caloric energy necessary to input it onto a keyboard.

[Citizen X]

Treating a billion-strong cohort of human beings as an undifferentiated Them is just a nonsensical thing for someone calling himself "Free Society" to do, is all.

[Free Society]

Treating a billion-strong cohort of human beings as an undifferentiated

I didn't "treat them" as anything. I'm civil to everyone I meet the first time. In discussing "Muslims", I'm discussing a discrete range of beliefs, practices and cultural norms. I differentiate them from the rest of the population and within Islam, I differentiate them by their devoutness, sect and so on. The more orthodox a Muslim's beliefs, practices and cultural norms, the more barbaric are those beliefs, practices and cultural norms.

So in a population of a billion communists, you couldn't criticize their moral philosophy, because there's a billion of them? Where is the cut off exactly, a few million?

[SugarFree]

Individualism is for fags, brah.

[Free Society]

Individualism is for fags, brah.

Like you understand the first thing about anything beyond the superficial aspects. You know just enough to be a snarky troll that can signal his friends as to how proper his views are. I've never actually seen you contribute anything substantial to a debate. I have very little hope that you're going to start now.

[SugarFree]

Because screeching about all dem Muslims want to kell us! is so substantial. deep analysis. such nuance. no signaling at all, brah.

I do enjoy watching you try and insult me, though. It's so feeble and sad.

[Rhywun]

Hypocrite much? You've never bitched about communists? Progressives? Socialists?

New Yorkers?

[Chinny Chin Chin]

to be fair, New Yorkers deserve it

[Rhywun]

We're the real last group that it's socially acceptable to vilify.

*tear*

[R C Dean]

- 1 New York value

[R C Dean]

I try not to refer to "Muslims", but to "Islamists" to distinguish between the go-along kind and the submission kind.

But I'll give Mr. Society this: he's right that a blanket objection to speaking about people in groups larger than one is asinine. You can argue about what the right classification is, but to say its illegitimate to classify people at all is self-evidently dumb.

Looking around these here radical individualist comments, I see many, many references to "cops" plural, "prosecutors" plural, "proggies" plural, etc ad infinitum.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

BTW, Great alt-text today, Ed.

[Swiss Servator]

Seconded

[Jerryskids]

I would have gone with something about God giving Bernie the bird.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Pfft, I made the same joke the other day...

[Fist of Etiquette]

A petition to permit guns into the Republican convention in Cleveland this summer has garnered more than 35,000 signatures...

Be prepared to be let down one last time, petitioners.

[Rich]

Sanders won primary contests in Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington, saying there remained for him a "path to victory."

He's "marching, marching to Shibboleth".

[Old Man With Candy]

With the eagle and the sword.

[Rich]

Gee, you *are* you an old man!

[Old Man With Candy]

No Irishman is gonna keep me from being elected dogkiller this time!

[straffinrun]

Hey, that path is shining.

[Swiss Servator]

Ah, but is Bernie up to being the next Abimael Guzm?n?

[thrakkorzog]

Wherae all the white vineyards at?

[Bee Tagger]

rejected the hiring recommendations of a police board and is set to appoint the chief of patrol, who did not apply for the job, as police superintendent instead.

Sounds like refusing isn't an option, either.

[Swiss Servator]

+1 fish in the mailbox

[Mazakon]

Lawmakers and labor unions in California reportedly struck a deal to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

Went to my local McDonald's the other day and noticed that they cut half of the cash registers for about six kiosk registers. Once people get more familiar with them, it could be more productive than the previous model.

[Hamster of Doom]

Now, if they just replaced the back with robots, the orders might actually be correct.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Momentum Machines is working on it.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

I don't know. McDonald's service isn't what it once was.

Sooo...maybe it's time to give robots a chance!

[Just a thought not a sermon]

I don't normally eat fast food, but in the past couple weeks I've eaten in a McDonald's and a Chick-Fil-A. The difference in service quality was huge, to Chick-Fil-A's advantage.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

It's been my experience as well whenever I'm in the USA.

[Rhywun]

I've never seen a Chick-Fil-A but they probably pay than minimum?

[Rhywun]

*more than

[coloraDOOM]

They do. From what I know secondhand, it's not much more. I think it's attitude as well. Work environment has an impact.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

The college scholarships for employees who work through HS are good, too.

[CE]

So is the food. McDonald's has something called a "Southern Chicken Sandwich" which is nothing at all like Chik-Fil-A's Original Chicken Sandwich.

[SugarFree]

McDonald's service isn't what it once was.

They went from teenagers looking for a little spending money to career dead-enders trying to feed a family of four. It takes a while to die inside.

[Swiss Servator]

Obligatory view of the customers, too:

http://www.theonion.com/articl.....o-dis-2848

[SugarFree]

As ever, reality catches up with satire:

Stop Being So Stingy With That Hot Sauce, Taco Bell!

[Pope Jimbo]

My killer app would be one that allowed me to buy food from a local store on my phone then instead of having to get in the drive thru lane, I'd come in the parking lot to grab my food from a drone.

[Lee G]

Yanking it in parking lots in front of drones is a good way to get arrested Mr. Pope.

[Pope Jimbo]

The sinners may mean me harm, but once they gaze upon the shining glory of my papal staff, I'm sure they will let me go without any charges...

[Old Man With Candy]

Peapod is one step ahead.

[John]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/.....story.html

It is generally a bad idea to talk to the FBI. It is an exceptionally bad idea to talk to the FBI when you are guilty and have no defense except bald face lying.

Hillary can't take the fifth. But she has no defense. She is just going to sit down and tell absurd lies because that is what she does. Not sure that is a good plan.

[Slammer]

Headline should say interviews loon

[Rich]

Yeah, I was going to say that if the FBI is interviewing a loom they should be getting around to Hillary *sometime*.

[Citizen X]

Not sure that is a good plan.

Why not? It's worked for her thus far.

[John]

I have a feeling she is going to push this off long enough to get nominated. This fall sometime when Obama refuses to indict her, the resulting leaks are going to be brutal. It is going to be a full on constitutional crisis.

[Episiarch]

We can only hope.

[John]

They gave the IT guy who built the server immunity. And they have the server. She is either going to be indicted or the FBI will leak definitive proof of her long list of serious felonies.

[Night Elf Mohawk]

Or neither will happen. I'm going with that one.

[John]

Why do you think the FBI wouldn't leak it?

[Night Elf Mohawk]

Insufficient upside relative to the downside of being hounded by the "justice" department of a phenomenally vindictive and petty woman.

[John]

They are the justice department Night Hawk. And if what you were saying were true, they never would have launched the investigation in the first place. No one made them open an investigation. God knows Obama didn't order them too. They did that on their own. And they have been leaking the details of it. If what you are saying is true, they would not have done that.

[Night Elf Mohawk]

DAs open investigations against cops. That doesn't mean the same rules are necessarily applied.

The great part here is that we'll see whether leaks of some egregious wrongdoing occur or whether the leaks, if any, are just more of the same ignorable stuff.

More of the same will be utterly meaningless. I'll be looking for these "brutal" leaks.

[John]

Night Elf,

The leaks in many ways already have been brutal. I don't see how you can think putting SAP infor on a server and ordering people to commit felonies is "ignorable"

[Night Elf Mohawk]

Oh. When you used "brutal" I thought you meant something that might rise to the level of making it infeasible for her even to continue trying to win the nomination, let alone the general election. If you classify what's come out so far as "brutal" then, yeah, there might be more "brutal" leaks. Where, of course, "brutal" doesn't mean anything at all like "something that could cause a constitutional crisis."

Like I said, though, we'll have the chance to see whether you're right or not.

[SFC B]

This is where having the press at her back has paid off. What has been leaked already, heck, what you can find on Wiki-leaks, is egregious wrongdoing. She told a staffer to strip the classification header from a document and fax it. There was classified information found on her private server, a server not set-up to protect such information.

If I did that and I was apprehended I'd be in a dark hole hoping they remember to drop some gruel for me to lick off the walls. Chelsea Manning has like 30 years left on her jail term and Edward Snowden probably can't go for a walk without a legitimate concern he'll be kidnapped and returned to the US (if he's lucky). Hillary might be the only person on Earth who can do what she did and get away with it.

[R C Dean]

I'm thinking Sid Blumenthal must be very nervous right now. He had word-for-word cut -and-paste from a highly classified document in his email(s). Under no circumstances should he have had any access to those documents. I expect the FBI is weighing whether to indict him or roll him with an immunity offer right now.

If he rolls over, I suspect he can delivery boxcars of dirt on Hillary and the Clinton Machine. I suspect it will come down to how many years of hard time he is looking at.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

The Democrats will be demanding Condi Rice and Colin Powell be indicted, too, if Clinton is indicted.

So I expect that to be their bargaining chip.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

It makes me think of In The Loop, where James Gandolfini's general is so committed to stopping the impending war, but when the time comes, he's not actually going to jeopardize his career for it.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Nope, server is still up.

[tarran]

It won't be.

I'm baffled why people think it will be.

The electoral college will convene and they will vote for a president. They merely have to ignore the laws forcing them to vote for the same person who won the election in their state. And, I think they would get away with it if Hillary were indicted.

[Old Man With Candy]

The chances of her getting indicted are roughly equivalent to the chances of me being orally serviced by Rachael Price.

[jarflax]

Bit old for you isn't she?

[John]

It will be. The issue won't be the electoral college. The issue will be should the country elect a brazen felon who escape prosecution due to her political connections. If it does, then people will stop even pretending there is a rule of law in this country. If it doesn't, a third or more of the country will think she was robbed by politically motivated justice.

I am baffled by the people who think she is just going to just tell the FBI and intelligence community to fuck off and nothing will happen.

[Night Elf Mohawk]

[Print Screen]

[John]

I am not saying she won't be elected. I know it is an article of religious faith on here that she will be elected. And maybe she will. If she is, however, the entire IC and FBI will be left demoralized and the entire country will now no longer be able to pretend there is a rule of law anymore. The issue won't just fade away.

[tarran]

I don't think she will be elected. She may "win" the election. But, I suspect the electors sent to Washington DC to vote in December will not necessarily vote for Hillary Clinton when the time comes to cast the actual ballots for the next president.

If Hillary is indicted, or if her crimes have been adequately leaked, despite the fact that their state laws generally require them to vote for the party nominee that was on the ballot in November, I don't think they will face any moral or legal consequence for casting a vote for a Biden or a /shudder Bernie Sanders.

[Lee G]

Imagine the weekly fireside chats with Bernie. It would be like having to spend every weekend with your crazy uncle.

[John]

I have no idea what obama and Lynch will do. I do however know her crimes will be leaked if nothing else. And they will get leaked before the election. What happens after that who knows but it won't be good.

[Night Elf Mohawk]

What do you think is going to be leaked beyond that which is already known and that's going to be seen qualitatively different if done?

"This is just more of the same thing my opponents have been distorting for months now. No critical information was ever at risk here."

[John]

What do you think is going to be leaked beyond that which is already known and that's going to be seen qualitatively different if done?

Two things. First will come the proof that she was behind it and not just the victim of a bad staff. And second will come the various smoking gun of her selling influence as Secretary of State. Remember, they got the hard drive itself. They will be able to reconstruct all of the personal emails that Hillary withheld.

Most people think this is just about Hillary putting some classified information on the wrong server. When the full investigation is leaked, Hillary's supporters will no longer be able to claim that. They may actually say "we don't care" and nominate her and elect her anyway. Who knows. But that is what they will have to do.

[Night Elf Mohawk]

1. Does anyone, at this point, really believe the idea wasn't hers?

2. That would actually be something. I don't expect we'll see anything even remotely like that.

3. If they can recover any damned thing from the server, then she overpaid her IT guy. I guess we'll see.

[Rich]

I am baffled by the people who think she is just going to just tell the FBI and intelligence community to fuck off and nothing will happen.

I agree. Fixed elections have consequences.

[Raven Nation]

Biden to the rescue.

[Free Society]

You seem to believe that virtually every non-blog media outlet with the exceptions of Fox and maybe RT, won't be covering for her and downplaying whatever is leaked. Everything that's come out up to this point has been pretty damning and the outrage of the likely Democratic voters has had all the power of a mouse fart.

[John]

That article is out of the LA Times. The truth is coming out. There won't be any way to down play it. What are they going to say?

[The Last American Hero]

They are going to say Evil Republican Witch Hunt. I've seen this movie before, and so have you.

[John]

We have never seen anyone this guilty of this much misconduct before. Its a real problem.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

They are going to say already are saying Evil Republican Witch Hunt. I've seen this movie before, and so have you.

There are posts all up and down my FB feed for the past few months that the Republicans have been engaging in a witch hunt against Clinton since 1992.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Boy John, I didn't take you for an eternal optimist.

Nothing will happen. That's my hunch and bet.

[straffinrun]

I'm going with misdemeanor and a less than stern look.

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

California Penal Code 4-405(a)(1)(iii): It if don't make no sense, then they ain't done no offense, specially one of dem lady senators.

[John]

Time will tell. We have never seen a public official so obviously guilty of crimes this serious. So I don't think the past is much of a predictor of the future.

[thom]

? What are you talking about...basically every public official in recent memory has been obviously guilty of crimes as serious or more serious than this, and any complaints have been met with a collective "meh". Bush fabricated evidence that led to the deaths of thousands of American military...he's not in jail. Clinton was widely acknowledged and accepted to be a criminal, and he's not in jail either. Obama... Yeah. And this doesn't even include all the obviously illegal NSA shit. What Hillary understands is that for practical purposes government elites can't commit crimes. Maybe some lackey a few rungs down the ladder spends a few years in the clink, but she can be confident that she won't have to.

[John]

Bush fabricated evidence that led to the deaths of thousands of American military...he's not in jail.

No he didn't. Even Bob freekin Woodward doesn't believe that lie anymore.

Clinton was widely acknowledged and accepted to be a criminal, and he's not in jail either. Obama..

Clinton sexually harassed women and lied about it. Not good but nothing like this.

Yeah. And this doesn't even include all the obviously illegal NSA shit.

The entire congress and government knew and approved of what the NSA was doing. You can debate the legality of it all day, but it is not the same as this.

And non one is saying she will go to jail, just no longer be in public life.

[R C Dean]

What we don't know, is how much Clinton Foundation business she did while SecState. A few emails have been released showing her staff carrying water and coordinating with the Foundation. Not a smoking gun, yet, but sweating the authors of those emails about what else was said and done could be productive.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

Maybe she plans on spending the interviews quibbling over the precise meaning of basic English vocabulary.

[Lee G]

Since when has that ever worked for anyone?

*sticks head back in sand*

[tarran]

Never Talk To The Police!

[Raven Nation]

I watched that a few years back. Brilliant!

[tarran]

"Why are you raising your hands?!? I told you not to talk to him!!!!"

Comedy Gold!

[coloraDOOM]

A great talk. I've shown pieces of it to spread some info.

[Old Man With Candy]

It is generally a bad idea to talk to the FBI. It is an exceptionally bad idea to talk to the FBI when you are guilty and have no defense except bald face lying.

It isn't like she's as dumb as a civil service lawyer.

[UnCivilServant]

Having worked with them, I can safely say we'd be better off replacing any given civil service lawer with a box of rocks.

[Old Man With Candy]

Their pension costs are cheaper, too.

[John]

Does your butt hurt today Old Man? Do you need a hug?

[Old Man With Candy]

See, there's the deep thought and incisive logic which is the marker of the keen-witted civil service employee.

[John]

You are so angry all of the time Old Man. I always figured really stupid people were happier. You seem to be pissed off and angry all of the time. I guess being as stupid as you are and having such a hard time interpreting and understanding reality must get frustrating. At some you people grow up and stop being cute.

[Old Man With Candy]

You make my point more effectively than I could have done myself, for which I am grateful.

[John]

You are living proof that you can learn something from everyone. From you I learned that being really stupid and having a low IQ doesn't necessarily make you happier. You never seem very happy and are always butt hurt about something.

[Old Man With Candy]

It's fun to see how few words it takes to get you foaming at the mouth. Side effect of the concussions? Or is it about your wife leaving you?

[John]

Yeah old man. I am the angry one. You nailed it dude.

[Hamster of Doom]

I can't see it. Did he call you a retard yet? I bet he did.

[Old Man With Candy]

In ways less articulate and more inchoate, yes. It's a sick kind of fun, but I'm a sick kind of guy.

[John]

I still think you just need a hug old man.

[Yusef Adama]

This is a running Gag right?

[UnCivilServant]

Better than the euphemisms one.

[Citizen X]

[citation needed]

[John]

That old man is angry and not particularly bright? Yes, it is. It is kind of a sad gag. But it is a gag and it is running.

[Acosmist]

What a weird, obsessed little creep you are.

[Rich]

Hillary can't take the fifth.

Why not?

"And if the American People could only see my emails, they would realize that I'm being harassed due to classification run amok!"

[John]

She could. But it would be hard then to explain how this is nothing. If she already had the nomination, she likely could. But, Sanders keeps winning primaries. Taking the 5th right now would be very problematic.

[Rich]

Yep.

This will get very interesting. Probably the sooner the better.

[R C Dean]

I have to believe that a major party nominee taking the Fifth during an election will be unprecedented, and won't be well received.

Its not like she has this deep pool of goodwill to draw on. Most people will hear that she took the Fifth and think "Yep. Guilty."

[ant1sthenes]

I always thought it was a spinning wheel that she used to whack Sleeping Beauty. The more you know.

[Slammer]

Undercover cop car almost hits mail truck. Mailman shouts in complaint, then arrested.

I like the heavy Caribbean accent dude.

[Rich]

Hooligans clashed with police at a temporary shrine for the victims of the Brussels terrorist attack.

Hooligans Versus Immigrants

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Bernie really is pushing Clinton Criminal Enterprises.

I reckon he'll be getting a message on his answering machine soon.

[UnCivilServant]

Did he finally get one? Is it a reel-to-reel model?

[Citizen X]

You don't NEED two reels when there are hungry children in this country!

[UnCivilServant]

But Comrade Bernie is a member of the inner party, he needs two reels so that the magnetic tape does not get tangled when recording the praise of the proles and the business of state.

[Slammer]

Euphemism

[Irish ?s Lauren Southern]

"Police used water cannon when scuffles broke out in front of the Bourse, which has become a symbolic rallying point for people to pay their respects to those who died in Tuesday's attacks. Black-clad men carrying an anti-Islamic State banner with an expletive on it trampled parts of the shrine, shouting Nazi slogans. Ten were arrested, and two police officers injured.

"We had 340 hooligans from different football clubs who came to Brussels, and we knew for sure that they would create some trouble," police Commissioner Christian De Coninck said. "It was a very difficult police operation because lots of families with kids were here.""

I hate football club Nazis.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Italian "ultras"?

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Italian ultras rarely travel (similar to Russian, Croatian and Serbian who are probably the worst) and while brutal in Italy have never ever come close to causing the havoc the traveling English, Dutch and German hooligans in the 1980s and 1990s that ushered in new rules and regulations.

[Lee G]

Congresscritter Jackie Speier introduces bill to ban burner phones

A Congresswoman has proposed that everyone buying a phone in the country would have to register with personal ID, to stop criminal activities being planned with handsets that can be bought anonymously and then thrown away.

Forcing shops to require customers to give over identification when buying cheap phones or pre-paid SIMs could be one of the most important ways that terrorists are able to communicate, according to California Congresswoman Jackie Speier, who proposed the bill.

"This bill would close one of the most significant gaps in our ability to track and prevent acts of terror, drug trafficking, and modern-day slavery," wrote Ms Speier in a Facebook post announcing the bill.

[Citizen X]

Hey, Congresswoman Speier? Shut the fuck up.

[straffinrun]

I'll help her close that gap. Unless Crusty wants to go first.

[Citizen X]

Crusty's fine with seconds.

[Lee G]

I think he prefers it that way.

[Crusty Juggler]

I am surprised she never tried to ban mass murder-suicide.

[Rich]

"This bill would close one of the most significant gaps in our ability to track and prevent acts of terror, drug trafficking, and modern-day slavery"

Meh. Abolishing congress is a non-starter.

[Hamster of Doom]

And as soon as Apple gives the Feebs what they want, next on the list will be requiring everyone to have a phone on them at all times.

[Crusty Juggler]

It is like she doesn't want Lester Freeman's character to have existed.

[SugarFree]

California is leading the way in bad ideas.

[UnCivilServant]

"California - Innovating Idiocy"

[Citizen X]

Can it please just fall into the ocean already?

[Crusty Juggler]

Sell that flip-flop paradise to the Chinese.

[Domestic Dissident]

A suicide bomber killed at least 67 people in a park in Lahore on Easter Sunday. An offshoot of the Pakistan Taliban said it had deliberately targeted Christians.

Well, Spring is the time for cleaning, and after all, the so-called "Arab Spring" is about ethnic and religious cleansing (sometimes known as genocide).

[Free Society]

STOP COLLECTIVIZING BRAH

[Sevo]

"Lawmakers and labor unions in California reportedly struck a deal to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour."

Let's see, who wasn't at the table?
Those who are going to have to PAY, of course!

[Lee G]

They couldn't come anyway, they were too busy swimming in their pools filled with gold coins.

[UnCivilServant]

"We had a quorum!"

[Guestus III]

To be fair, the unions were at the table because they were pushing several $15 ballot initiatives, one of which already qualified, which even the fucking retard Cal leftist legislators thought was a worse proposal than this one. The legislation is a gambit to halt the unions' even shittier plans. So, blackmail, basically, but blackmail enabled by the absolute stupidity of voters who would almost assuredly vote for whatever fucking free shit you propose, no matter how stupid. The people who have to pay were not at the table because, well, FYTW.

[Slammer]

Hey, didn't this meme come from HyR?

[Hamster of Doom]

Yes. It was a particularly good one, too.

[straffinrun]

Terrible chess player, but I can beat extremely terrible chess players. Go, on the other hand, is not a game to learn late in life. My 7 year old routinely beats me at it. I don't shit on the board though.

[Irish ?s Lauren Southern]

Entitled journalists talk about how hard their lives are.

"Summer 2015, the West Coast: I'm chatting with a longtime friend, a great investigative reporter who was pushed out of a big-city daily. She's managed to land a new, well-paying job?but it's not in journalism. A mutual colleague told me that "it's the most hated job she never wanted to do." I insist that my friend needs to find a way back someday, because she has stunning reportorial talent. "I don't remember that person," she interrupts sharply."

Waaaaaaah! I have a well-paying job but it doesn't leave me fulfilled enough! Feel sorry for me! The writer of the piece also seems like a huge asshole:

"I explain that I'm seeking the human angle behind the news of thousands of downsized journalists. "Am I the lead to your story?" he asks, sizing me up, tensing. ?I feel that I'm losing him. Thus a Hail Mary: "Are you depressed?" His fast retort: "Are you trying to piss me off?" He walks out, leaving a full beer on the table."

Hey, unemployed former reporter. Let me pry into your life when you're clearly not interested!

[Irish ?s Lauren Southern]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"But there's one major difference between other workers and journalists?when the latter are laid off, the commonweal suffers. "You know who loves this new day of the lack of journalism? Politicians. Businessmen. Nobody's watching them anymore," says Russ Kendall, a lifelong photojournalist and editor who is now self-employed as a pizza maker."

Yeah, there are no other jobs as important as journalism! Fuck off, other unemployed people, we are vastly more important than you are.

It's very difficult to feel sorry for someone making this argument and it's even harder to feel sorry for them given how easy these legacy journalists go on every Democratic politician.

[Tornado16nb]

Yea they really are that important! Political blogs today have not morphed into TEAM sensationalism and over the top hyperbole for clicks!

[Lord Humungus]

Sorry I missed all the fun... dental appointment for a sexy, sexy *cleaning.

*Not applicable in Utah

[SugarFree]

Uh, I hate to break it to you, but it's not actually proper dental procedure when he puts his dick in your mouth and orders you "swish."

[Lord Humungus]

I choked laughed.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Breath through your nose.

[Irie]

when is hillary gonna get indicted?

[Rich]

Soon.

/Eric Holder

[Lord Humungus]

not going to happen. We now get presidents who are pre-crooks.

[JoWaDat889]

Every once in a while you just have to roll with it.

http://www.Anon-Net.tk

[Citizen X]

Yuo said it ,man LOL!

http://www.masturbation-euphemisms.org

[R C Dean]

Shorter version:

If its got a noun and a verb, its a euphemism for masturbation.

[Jerryskids]

In other news, Gov. Deal just announced he's vetoing Georgia's RFRA bill on the grounds that it would allow religious people to discriminate against the gays. No word yet on whether the "man seeking woman" personal ads are now illegally discriminatory.

[Rhywun]

Get back to me when Georgia puts a "rescind civil rights" bill on the table. Otherwise they want to pretend that some categories are OK to discriminate against and not others.

[GILMORE?]

""Hooligans""

Euro-Yokels?

there's a lot of pictures of thuggish men waving their hands, or stomping on flowers, but I can't find a single photo of an actual 'nazi salute' among them, including in the attached video, which interprets any open palm raised above the head as a signal of support for National Socialism, natch.

[Lord Humungus]

You know who else signaled support for National Socialism...

[Lee G]

Tony?

[Tornado16nb]

Anyone else notice that being a progressive is a positional good as opposed to their claims they want to help? As in it is all about their intentions to be

Was reading SFGATE regarding the 15 min wage in california yesterday.

This was a typical comment from progs:

Prog: they need a living wage of $15/hr
Other: this will drive the need for automation
Prog: that's ok, that is the evolution of business and they can just find another job

So my thought was they really don't care about the employee that isn't making the arbitrarily defined living wage.

[Rhywun]

They also seem to have "forgotten" that minimum wage was never intended to be a "living wage".

[Tornado16nb]

I wish they would define what a living wage is. I would like to ask them how illegals live. I think their idea of a living wage is wanting others to subsidize them living in certain cities which is a luxury good....not a necessity.

[Rhywun]

Yup, we have seen this before: a "living wage" is a wage that can prop up a single college graduate with a useless degree and drowning in debt in any one of the most expensive cities in the country, in a one-bedroom apartment at least.

[ant1sthenes]

Are pubsec unionized employees wages tied to the minimum? Because they aren't going to be losing their jobs until the whole thing finally goes under. And a chunk of what they make is directly funneled to The Party.

[Ken Shultz]

"Hooligans clashed with police at a temporary shrine for the victims of the Brussels terrorist attack."

I'm a long time hater of neo-Nazi hooligans, but even I'm sick of this script:

1) Muslim terrorists attack innocent bystanders.

2) Neo-Nazis protest.

3) Media condemns the neo-Nazis.

There might be a legitimate argument hanging around in the background about how the European left should be more afraid of neo-Nazis than Muslim terrorists.

Is there a legitimate reason why the American left should fear right wing hooligans more than Muslim terrorism?

Serious question: Is taking in millions of refugees from Africa and the Middle East somehow justified because neo-Nazis oppose it?

Is there anything else we should support because football hooligans oppose it, or is taking in millions of refugees from Africa and the Middle East the only one?

Why should I care what neo-Nazis think about any issue?

[ammythomas8090]

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[NashTiger]

But the Crusades...

[prurisejun]

Part time and full time free online jobs ,my unkel makes $45 /hr on the computer . He has been out of work for 4 months but last month her pay check was $4510 just working on the computer for a few hours.
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[straffinrun]

That's a lot of cash *Yoink!* bail money you have there. Officer Friendly Forfeiture.

[Pope Jimbo]

For me? *chokes up with gratitude*

[Just a thought not a sermon]

What's amazing is she literally weight-lifted away her scoliosis.

[Pope Jimbo]

I was excited for a bit there, Tundra. I thought maybe she'd be a good match for one of my boys - she'd be able to haul in a lot of firewood after all. Then it said she was from Sweden. No way I'm letting a Swede into my family tree.

[Citizen X]

Hey, it worked for Warty.

[Rich]

Scoliosis of the *Doomcock*?!

[Warty]

It actually did. I herniated a disc when I was like 18 or 19 moving a big rock out of my mom's garden. A big part of the reason I decided to get huge was to make my back indestructible. Fuck sciatica, nigga.

[SugarFree]

Penile Armaments Ltd. calls that product the CorkenScrew. It's very popular with Millenials.

[Citizen X]

You try and carry that thing around with a normal human spine. It's also why he has bowlegs, ulcerative colitis, halitosis, and a bad attitude.

[SugarFree]

Warty is the perfect inhuman specimen. How dare you suggest he has a human spine.

[Citizen X]

He DOES have a human spine! It's preserved and mounted on the wall next to the niche he keeps De Vermis Mysteriis in.

[UnCivilServant]

Of course he has a human spine, we saw it when we searched his storage facility.

[Hamster of Doom]

He keeps it in the closet.

[SugarFree]

See that the spine is not one day yours.

[Brett L]

What was the bad 80s Clint Eastwood movie where he and a pack of misfit Marines invade Grenada? The scene where they get the big blonde guy to fight him chanting "Swede, Swede" is all I can think of now.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Flesh Torpedo FTW!

[SugarFree]

Heartbreak Ridge

[Lee G]

Heartbreak Ridge

My name's Gunnery Sergeant Highway and I've drunk more beer and banged more quiff and pissed more blood and stomped more ass that all of you numbnuts put together. Now Major Powers has put me in charge of this reconnaisance platoon.

[Crusty Juggler]

Heartbreak Ridge.

[Lee G]

My friend's father was a Bird Colonel at the time and cheered in the theater when Clint ripped the recruit's earring out.

[Warty]

BAD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Heartbreak Ridge.

If you ignore the horrid 'combat scenes' near the end, it wasn't too awful.

[Crusty Juggler]

I know! That movie costarred Mario Van Peebles at his peak.

[Brett L]

Yes. Watchably bad in the way that many 80s movies are, but bad. Better than Top Gun, but not good.

[Brett L]

I was going to write how MvP should have hung it up right then. Posse would never have been made. Now THAT was unwatchably bad. Almost as bad as The Quick and The Dead.

[Hamster of Doom]

Jaws 4 (or was it 5)?