Bill Clinton

Bill Clinton Says Very Bill Clinton Things on Campaign Trail for Hillary

Wants people to get behind Hillary instead of debating past policies.

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Former president Bill Clinton spoke at a Hillary Clinton campaign event in Spokane, Wash., earlier today, where he talked about "the awful legacy of the last eight years" and how Hillary was the "best change maker" he'd ever known.

An especially Clintonian portion of his comments, via The Weekly Standard:

She always finds a way to make something good happen, to make people feel empowered, to buy people into the process, to make democracy work the way the framers intended for it to work. Now if you don't believe we can all grow together again, if you don't believe we're ever going to grow again, if you believe it's more important to re-litigate the past, there may be many reasons that you don't want to support her.

Where to start? Saying that Hillary is good on getting people to "buy in" to the political process shows either a stunning lack of self-awareness or a stunning lack of caring. The Clinton Foundation looks a lot like a slush fund that facilitated dirty deals with foreign governments while Hillary Clinton served as secretary of state in the Obama administration.

Not sure who Bill Clinton believes doesn't believe the U.S. can "grow again," while "we can all grow together again" is a "building a bridge to the 21st century"-level of bullshit.

The line that stuck out for me was about believing it's "more important to re-litigate the past." This is a favorite refuge of political scoundrels. Clinton's record as president in the 90s has become somewhat of an issue on the Democratic campaign trail.

Bernie Sanders has made re-instating Glass-Steagall (briefly, a law separating commercial banking from investment banking) one of his campaign themes, arguing against all evidence to the contrary that the repeal helped precipitate the 2008 financial crisis.

Meanwhile, the 1994 crime bill has emerged as an issue in the context of policing and criminal justice reform. Bill Clinton finally apologized for signing the bill into law last year, as his wife's Democratic nomination began to appear slightly less inevitable. Hillary and her apologists have argued that the 90s were a "long time ago" and that a different set of political realities informed the crafting of that bill. In other words: it was politically popular back then and offered few negative consequences.

But that kind of hand-waving and excuse-making avoids introspection. Without identifying the fallacies about the role of government and the use of force to compel compliance that led to the crime bill in the first place, the same mistakes are bound to repeat. That's especially true when politicians, as they often do, escape any personal responsibility for the misery they cause through legislation. Engaging that is not "litigation," and that doesn't depend on the definition of is.

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  1. if you believe it’s more important to re-litigate the past,

    Since most people are more interested in litigating her past for the first time via a criminal indictment, I don’t think we’re really talking about “re-litigating” anything, yet.

    1. *RE: litigate the past

      1. We can wipe away the past with a cloth or something.

      2. Doesn’t Bill deserve a Disbarment Pardon?

    2. I suggest we leave all criminals alone. Why litigate past crimes when it is so much easier to throw people in jail for crimes they might commit (for having guns which might go off, for having mouths which might speak, for having penises which might rape, for having money which mind fund opponents)?

  2. Is it just me, or is “fighting for us” the most unintentionally apt and honest slogan ever trotted out for a campaign? It could hardly be more mafioso, like “Family Comes First.”

    1. She clearly knocked off “Festivus.”
      “Fighting for us: authoritarianism for the folks like us”

  3. “Wants people to get behind Hillary”

    Sounds like a recommendation.

    1. That subhead, combined with the alt text = fantastic.

    2. Or a euphemism.

  4. the awful legacy of the last eight years…

    Mr. Obama, that metal rack you see passing over your head? That would be the bus Mr. Clinton just threw you under.

    1. Yeah, right? I guess there’s something to that buzz that they aren’t best buds.

    2. “the awful legacy”

      But enough about the former Secretary of State and the bombing of Libya………

  5. Not sure who Bill Clinton believes doesn’t believe the U.S. can “grow again,” while “we can all grow together again” is a “building a bridge to the 21st century”-level of bullshit.

    *shrug*

    These are all political metaphors for “agree with us/vote with us/vote for us”.

  6. Ah, the old Bridge to the 21st Century!

    I always wondered why you needed a bridge to something you are directly adjacent to. He should have built the bridge to the 22nd century. I’d like to know how the future turns out.

    1. I’d be seriously disappointed with a bridge to the 22nd century. Space elevator or GTFO.

      1. Wouldn’t a boat to the 22nd century be required due to global warming?

        1. You know what? Fuck it, I’m hopping on Dennis Hopper’s tanker. At least they have cigs.

          1. That will only last as long as you don’t encounter an actor trying to reestablish Royal Mail Ship service.

            1. I saw that movie. He tried to win every battle with a seven-iron and/or a bag of garden tools.

        2. At last! An upside to global warming — easier access to space!

          1. If we can just pull off like 50km of sea rise, then orbit is practically a stone’s throw away.

        3. Bill Clinton and boats? Not a good combo.

  7. Let me clarify. I was alluding to the behavior of the Republicans over the last 8 years, not Obama’s.
    (Coming in 5,4,3,2…)

  8. “But that kind of hand-waving and excuse-making avoids introspection.”

    That is just sooooo unClinton like.

  9. It sure sounds like this Hillary person is horrible! Is there another person I could vote for? Someone who tells it like it is? Someone who will face down the elites and their privilege and stick up for the little guy?

    1. Unfortunately he dropped out early. You are stuck with Donary Clump.

      1. Yeah when Christie dropped out it was devastating.

        1. The earthquake when he landed knocked over a small town.

      2. Hillald Clintump

        1. I believe they are related. It is difficult to tell them apart. Only their barbers know for sure.

          1. Don’t blame me; I voted for Kodos.

            1. I voted For the LULZ.

  10. I’m not really paying attention to this shit, so I could be misremembering, but…

    Weren’t Hillary and Bernie campaigning on Obama’s legacy less than a week ago?

    1. Stop relitigating the past.

    2. Bernie said the real unemployment rate was over 10%. He pledged he could he beat that.

      1. 50% unemployment coming right up!

        1. The American deodorant brand count would then be down to twelve? Is this not revolutionary progress, comrade?

          1. Less choices=more freedom comrade!

            1. Less time choosing what to wipe one’s pits with, means more free time liquidating kulaks! BERNIE SANDERS 2016!

              1. Hmmmm, liquid Kulaks! Almost as good as a big glass of Jewce!

                1. Band: “Liquid Kulaks” Album: “A big glass of juice”

                  Nice.

    3. Different audience.

  11. Personally I’m voting for Nirp, The Great Destroyer!

    1. Glasya-Labolas would be the better choice if you want to go whole-hog.

  12. “the awful legacy of the last eight years”

    Is there a link of the full text of his speech? I’d like to hear more about what he thinks was so especially awful.

    1. Mostly, I suspect, that he wasn’t in the White House.

    2. and the seven years before that where we were practicing trickle-down economics with no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash

      Riiiiight.

      Jesus, these people love that expression, “Trickle down”. Its like an instant excuse to remain appallingly ignorant of anything involving ‘economics, finance, or fiscal policy’.

      The idea that the 2008 financial crisis was invented by “something to do with BOOOOSH and being too nice to rich people!!!” is just too fucking amazing.

      I mean, i get Bill… and i think he’s a master politician. but its the millions of people who nod at this, and wipe their minds free of anything to do with “credit bubbles” driven by fed policy and HUD-mandates for subprime loans etc…. Its those people that fucking blow me away.

      Because the truth? is that those things were driven by do gooders pols trying to expand credit to *poor people*. The rich people? hell, they’d have been happy with 3-4% interest rates forevah. Why would THEY need to fluff up the cheap–mortgage market?? Answer = Hurrrr durrrrr wall street! NO REGULATION!!

      Who the hell works anywhere within spitting distance of a bank and thinks there’s “no regulation”?

      1. To the progtard and the technocrattard, REGULAYSHUN is nothing less than the dew of love. It purifies all, sanctifies all, turns all holy and benevolent. Real-world effects and motivations and incentives do not matter to our political masters. It’s all intention and feels.

      2. Who the hell worked within spitting distance of a medical insurance office or healthcare facility (pre-Obamacare) and thought there was “no regulation”?

      3. I have something that will trickle down. Well, flow actually. I’m a beer drinker.

        1. Urethra Franklin?

  13. Here’s what appears to be a little more of that speech. He has lost it.

    1. Yep. Hillary must be having a fit.

  14. Ed, the Clintons are the real-life Underwoods. Look at it that way. If you believe that Billary has any sort of a conscience- one that would compel something like, say, introspection- you are delusional. Bill “apologized” for the bill when it was expedient to do so. He didn’t give it a thought between hummers until he did. Clintons are scum.

  15. Hillary just said “if I am fortunate enough to be elected” on — yes, I admit it! — CNN.

    We’ll see if Cooper brings up the FBI investigation.

    1. Nope.

      I suppose Comey’s visit to Lynch is imminent.

  16. But sadly NOTHING MATTERS

    None of the Clinton prevarications matter in the slightest.

    Senator Clinton will be elected in a landslide taking at least one and now possibly two Houses of Congress with her.

    There very well might not even be a national opposition party in a year.

    It’s possibly true that (assuming normal demographic trends helped somewhat faster along by amnesty) there won’t be another non-Democratic president in our lifetimes.

    1. There will be a landslide all right. Just as there was in ’68.

  17. “Fighting For Us”

    Who were they fighting for before? And which “Us” is she referring to?

    =====

    Breitbart is campaigning for Trump

    You didn’t think that was possible did you?

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