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Six Percent of Americans Have Accepted Payment for Sex

For those ages 30-44, it rises to almost 10 percent. But most Americans still think prostitution is "morally wrong."

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In a new nationwide poll from YouGov, six percent of respondents said they have been paid for sex in the past, and seven percent have paid someone else for sex. Men and women were equally likely to have accepted payment for sex, but just one percent of the women said they had paid for it themselves, while 12 percent of the men said as much.

The findings were part of a broader survey about American attitudes toward prostitution and how society should handle it. YouGov interviewed 1,000 American adults between March 5-7, 2016, with results that get particularly interesting when broken down by demographics. One of the most notable findings is that twenty-somethings are much more likely than their elders to think buying and selling sex should be illegal and to recommend prison as an appropriate punishment. 

Overall, slightly more people say getting paid for sex should be illegal (43 percent) than say that it should be legal (40 percent)—although with a 4.5 percent of margin of error on the study, the opposite could just as well be true. Seventeen percent weren't sure. A somewhat larger number of respondents were in favor of criminalizing the purchase of sex, with 45 percent in favor, 39 opposed, and 17 percent again unsure. 

Among the youngest cohort, however, a full 50 percent of respondents said it should be illegal to pay for sex and 46 percent said it should be illegal to accept payment for it. 

The gender divide in prostitution views was also stark, with men significantly more likely than women to say that both buying and selling sex should be legal. Half of male respondents said paying for sex should be legal, a position shared by just 29 percent of female respondents. Just 37 percent of male respondents said it should be criminalized, while 52 of the women surveyed did. 

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The breakdown was similar for accepting payment for sex: 51 percent of men said it should be legal and 36 percent said it should be illegal, while just 30 percent of women said it should be legal and 50 percent said it should be illegal.

Those who thought paying for sex should be illegal were asked about appropriate punishments. The largest block were in favor of community service (42 percent), followed by "small fines" (22 percent) and prison (20 percent); 16 percent weren't sure. Answers were nearly identical on desired punishments for people selling sex. 

Ideas about punishments for prostitution were not strongly gendered, but those under 30 were much more likely to say prison was appropriate. Thirty-three percent of 20-somethings want to throw people in jail for paying for sex, a sentiment shared by just 24 percent of the next oldest group, 11 percent of 45- to 64-year-olds, and 12 percent of those over age 65.

Twenty-somethings were also the most likely to say prison was an appropriate punishment for sex workers, with 24 percent in favor. Just 15 percent of the oldest cohort believed prison was the answer. 

And the kids were only slightly more likely than those 65+ to view buying or paying for sex as "morally acceptable," too. Those in the 30- to 44-year-old range, meanwhile, were least likely to see a problem with it. Overall, 57 and 56 percent of people said it was "morally wrong" to offer or receive money for sex. 

Republicans were more likely than Democrats to have paid for sex (seven percent versus four percent), but also much more likely to say that doing so was immoral (70 percent versus 54 percent). Democrats were also more supportive of legalizing the buying and selling of sex, with around 40 percent of them in favor, compared to just 30-32 percent of Republicans.

Democrats were also more likely than Republicans to have been paid for sex, at eight percent versus five percent. Overall, people in their thirties and early 40s were the most likely to have accepted payment for sex, at nine percent, while eight percent of 45- to 64-year-old respondents had been paid for it. 

Unsurprisingly, those in the lowest and middle-income brackets were the most likely to have been paid for sex, but they were also more likely than richer respondents to have paid for sex themselves. The regional split was pretty even for sex buyers, although there were more people who had been paid for sex in the Midwest. 

Whites were more likely than blacks to say they had purchased sex (7 percent versus 5 percent), but less likely to say they had been paid for it (four percent versus 10 percent). Blacks outpaced whites in support for the criminalizaiton of prostitution but were less likely to see prison as an appropriate punishment, especially for those on the selling end. Just eight percent of blacks supported prison time for those who sell sex, compared 23 percent of whites and 25 percent of Hispanics. 

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230 responses to “Six Percent of Americans Have Accepted Payment for Sex

  1. What’s the numbers if you include non-cash renumeration?

      1. I can certainly testify to the truth of that stat in my case.

      2. If you exclude virgins. Those still exist, right?

        Cynical bastards.

        1. There are plenty of young libertarian men playing D&D, so yes, virgins exist.

        2. Cynical bastards.

          You rang?

        3. I took that to mean, “of people that have had sex, __% said they paid for it.”

          1. Yes, I was being excessively literal.

            1. Technically correct is the best kind of correct, Zeb.

              Point to Zeb.

          2. Virgins have neither paid for nor been paid for sex, and if any responded to the survey, presumably answered those questions accordingly. They certainly weren’t screened out of taking the survey.

    1. Yes, exactly! In today’s society where men and women are supposed to be completely equal, men are still expected to pay for dinner and entertainment on “dates”. You stack up a few of those dates with the same person, and you get sex. How is that not paying for sex? Don’t get me wrong, I have no issues with the current arrangement, I just have an issue with pretending that it’s anything other than paying for sex on an installment plan. The only real difference is that a professional won’t allow installment payments, they require cash up front.

  2. Those who thought paying for sex should be illegal were asked about appropriate punishments. The largest block were in favor of community service…

    Handies for free.

    1. Their punishment for prostitution is to have the prostitutes walk the streets.

      I don’t think they’ve thought this all the way through.

    2. Not for free. You give a handie for expungement of your record. In other words Handi-wipes.

      1. I assume you’re proud of yourself for this.

        1. I live for Swissy’s disapproval.

          1. You will NEVER time a comment that well…ever again.

            1. * dog with a shitty diaper grin *

      2. *narrows gaze*

        *throws in bonus scowl*

        1. Perfect posting coordination!

  3. I have accepted payment to not have sex.

    1. I actually gave a woman some cash to stop hitting on me once. “Here, sweetheart, buy yourself a nice girly drink and leave me alone.”

      Man, was she pissed at me. She still took the cash, though.

      1. Man, that sort of thing would *bankrupt* me!

        1. Just because your net worth is $6…

        2. You get hit on by that many undesirable women? Perhaps a different cologne would help.

            1. I was gonna laughingly suggest Axe? Body Spray, but then I remembered it’s basically Cthulu’s mosquito repellent.

              1. My roommate (although I think she poached it from a comedian): “Not all men who wear AXE are date-rapists, but all date-rapists wear AXE”

                  1. C. O. Bigelow is a 2nd rate Geo. F. Trumper.

                    1. Tabac FTW, at least for soap.

              2. Cthulu’s mosquito repellent

                STOLEN.

                1. It’s nice to be appropri… er, appreciated.

        3. Eddie doesn’t have sex since he’s not married. His religion even forbids him to masturbate.

          1. Poor Onan. He just didn’t want to be responsible for children who would be considered the heir of his oldest brother, and now he’s a synonym for rubbing one out.

            1. This. Of all the stuff religious Christians and Jews do and don’t do, this one is so wrong. Onan was specifically commanded to give his dead brother’s wife a child. And he didn’t want to. It had NOTHING to do with generally having sex and pulling out, and certainly nothing to do with masturbating. The Hebrew word that is used for seminal emission is not differentiated n the Bible (Keri) whether “appropriate” or “inappropriate”. Though Orthodox Jews always refer to this as inappropriate.

          2. C’mon, T. It’s Friday….lighten up a bit.

  4. “Thirty-three percent of 20-somethings want to throw people in jail for paying for sex”

    Man, those Millennials just keep proving Gillespie’s libertarian moment thesis, don’t they?

    1. Well, that still says a majority of them don’t want that. Of course, we are always left with the question of whether those opinions are connected to age or cohort.

    2. But, but, they support gay marriage! Surely that’s the result of approaching the issue from a principled libertarian perspective, and not just going along with what’s trendy!

      1. Now, now – Millennials strongly support Bernie Sanders, are the most likely age group to want to throw johns in prison, and many of them applaud when city councils infantilize them by raising the smoking age to 21.

        “Robert Davis, 19, said he would welcome the restriction on his peers. Davis, a nonsmoker, said he thinks it would cut down the number of classmates and friends that smoke ? and, as a result, cut down on how many times he’s forced to walk through a cloud of smoke to get to class.”

        THE MOST LIBERTARIAN GENERATION EVER

        1. All that public school indoctrination is really paying off.

        2. I don’t have terribly high hopes for millennials. Young people are always more likely to believe in the ability of government and laws to solve problems. Maybe they’ll get over it.

          Also, “most libertarian generation” is kind of a tallest midget sort of competition.

          1. Liberty just isn’t/wasn’t a valuable commodity during human evolution. Belonging to a tribe meant food and safety. Going alone made you leopard chow. Face Zeb, we are the freaks.

            1. *unfurls freak flag, loads musket*

            2. we are the freaks.

              Oh, I’ve come to terms with that. I’m just saying that no generation is all that libertarian and that a good number of people tend to move away from their faith in good government as they age. So “most libertarian generation” doesn’t mean a very libertarian generation. Though I’m also not sold on millennials being the most libertarian generation.

              1. I think the unavoidable problem is that most people are stupid and want to be taken care of by others because they don’t quite trust their own judgment. But those same stupid people don’t want some fancy pants smart person telling them what to do, so they give that task to one of their own.

                Classical liberalism may see it’s best days when enlightened despotism makes a come-back, because it sure is hell isn’t consistent with democracy.

    3. Millennial commandment #7 – No sex outside of gay marriage

    4. Prudish Puritanism is so hot right now.

  5. White, millennial women are the worst.

    1. well, 94% of them, at least.

    2. Nikki is a millennial?

      1. Nikki is white?

  6. ENB is a Reason treasure (mostly). While other writers are focused on Trump pearl clutching, she just keeps sticking to the tried and true by providing us a healthy portion of the sex component of butt sex, Mexicans, and pot.

    1. Mexicans are Dalmia’s beat. The only time ENB gets into Mexicans is when Mexicans are getting into hookers.

      1. What about Messican hookers? Or Messican hookers with weed?

        1. The Mexicans hookers in “whore’s Glory” weren’t the most depressing. That honor when to India.

          1. Wouldn’t a hooker in India be mostly “rapefodder”?

            1. If you want to feel better about your life, but dysphoric at the same time, watch “Whore’s Glory”. The brothels in India are depressing. One of the “johns” they interview said he thinks brothels are great otherwise more men would be rapist.

      2. Nah It’s Guatemalans and Syrians now, the Mexicans have been leaving lately.

  7. I would say it is closer to 100% percent. Who hasn’t promised to take his girlfriend out to dinner, or to take out the trash, for some nookie? Even taking explicit exchanges out of the equation, is not a promise of exclusivity good and valuable consideration?

    1. Someday your girlfriend will take you out to dinner so that she can get deep into your britches.

      1. Aw, thanks, Crusty. Would, because I value empathy.

        1. Would, because I value empathy

          Awww!

    2. But isn’t that more of a reputation grind than straight-up transaction?

      1. sounds like too much work.

        1. I just need 40 more stacks of runecloth, and I can get the blue item! ALMOST THERE!

          1. My purples shit all over your blues.

            1. Especially if they are made from Runecloth, that is like 4 expansions back.

              1. I pity the fool who plays on anything that isn’t Nostalrius.

              2. jeebus I am out of the loop. WotLK was the last time I played…and 40 stacks is a ton.

                1. Ha, WOLTK – I was referencing the Fucking Tunnel of Fucking Furbolgs from Vanilla.

                  And you don’t make shit out of Runecloth – you give them stacks to get rep to be allowed to buy items.

                  1. Oh god I remember that rep grind.

    3. You know, a lot of people in sexual relationships actually like each other and have sex because it’s what they both want to do. Not everything is a transaction like that.

      1. weirdos.

      2. well, everything can be viewed as a transaction like that. Take for example helping someone who fell down get back up. You did not get paid materially but you did get a sense of self worth, righteousness, emotional stimulation, and if they said thanks you even got social status improvement.

        1. *stealthily trips Cliche Bandit*

          “Hey there, friend….need a hand up?”

          1. FUCK YOU!

            – 1 social standing

          2. And swissy, with all that gazing I am not sure you can improve your social status, that and commenting here guarantees a life at the bottom.

            WOOO HOOO DRINK UP!

            1. I…I…do comment here. Damn…

              *leaves work for bar*

      3. Zeb, you make it sounds like an either or proposition. You can love someone and still approach things from a trade (mutually beneficial) perspective. I would argue that this leads to healthier relationships in the long run, because no one feels like they are getting taken for granted or unappreciated.

    4. Who hasn’t promised to take his girlfriend out to dinner, or to take out the trash, for some nookie?

      Me.

      My wife doesn’t do it either.

      1. So the trash just accumulates?

    5. That’s why women hate prostitution. Prostitutes are the scabs. They provide sex for cheaper (when you factor in all the shit you go through to get it for ‘free’ it is indeed cheaper, hence why it’s more commonly purchased by poor men). They want the scabs and those who hire them punished to keep the market value of their wares high.

  8. …just one percent of the women said they had paid for it themselves, while 12 percent of the men said as much.

    Only 12% of men are married? Ba dum CHHH

  9. Six Percent of Americans Have Accepted Payment for Sex

    A GLIMPSE INSIDE THE MIND OF EVERY MAN

      1. Puh-leez.

        Single-malt or don’t bother.

        I could also be persuaded with 20-year-old port. Offering me the 10-year-old stuff’s just insulting.

        1. Good! More 10 year Graham’s for me!

          1. Ugh. That stuff’s cat’s piss.

          2. jesus man, have some self respect, this is a prostitution thread after all.

    1. Is the beer part even necessary at all?

      1. You slut

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          And how do you do that reason Amazon thing?

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  10. “For those ages 30-44, it rises to almost 10 percent. But most Americans still think prostitution is “morally wrong.”

    Yeah, well, ethics isn’t a popularity contest. I suspect 100% of the American people have told a whopper at one point or another in their lives–yet most of them probably think lying is wrong, too.

    That people who’ve failed still cling to their morals isn’t an indication of anything other than that people are imperfect and human.

    Jesus loves you, anyway, Elizabeth.

    1. Good point Ken. The lack of 100% application does not negate the truth of a principle.

      BTW, prostitution should be legal, even if it is immoral. Sloth and gluttony are sins, but we don’t outlaw slobs and the obese. We recognize these are human failings, which most of us, at one point of the other, have given into to. What’s wrong with pointing out something is wrong, while refusing to prohibit it? Life isn’t perfect, but we have free will and we need to work on ourselves, not control the behavior of others.

      1. but we don’t outlaw slobs and the obese

        *hrumph* Well, *hrumph* we should! *hrumph*

      2. Amen. Immoral =/= Illegal.

  11. Wow, that gender breakdown is disappointing. Surprised to see so many women are “anti-choice.”

    1. Well, if the guys can pay some willing slut, they lose their leverage.

      1. Sluts are like scabs who dare to cross the Pussy Union. And like scabs they will be looked down on by the good union members.

        1. “”the Pussy Union””

          #1 google-image (on SafeSearch) result

          the non-safe version… was colorful.

          1. Not clicking unless it’s a set theory joke….

    2. As described in Cryptonomicon it is just a feature of the world spanning “Ejaculation Control Conspiracy”

    3. Are you also surprised when cab drivers oppose Uber, or public school teachers oppose charters?

    4. Women see other women as competition, more so than men.

      Guys walk into a meat market, and they look at all the women–see who they find attractive.

      Women walk into the same place–and they look at all the competition. See where they stand.

      They don’t want more competition. They want less.

      I hardly even notice other guys in a bar–although I’ll notice the girl they’re with.

      Gets me into trouble sometimes.

      1. Ken, stop pretending like you don’t crotch-watch dudes.

        1. If he left it at just watching he’d be fine…

      2. So I can brazenly hit on other guys when I’m with mine in public because he’ll be too busy looking at girls to notice? Good to know

        1. No, if you’re beautiful, he’ll be guarding you. Unless you annoyed the living hell out of him, recently.

        2. He’ll be noticing you and what you’re doing, but we might not notice him–until it’s too late.

          The “conversation” usually goes something like:

          Dude: “Stay away from my girlfriend!”

          Ken: “I didn’t know she was your girlfriend”.

          Dude: “?!”

          Ken (Silently to himself) “Why would I notice she was your girlfriend?”

          Since I was 16, I’ve never met a desirable female who didn’t have anyone interested in her and no attachments. It really is a zero sum game. But I’m not necessarily trying to start something with your girlfriend, and my friend’s girlfriends are certainly off limits . . .

          But I’ve gotta know she’s YOUR girlfriend, and that information isn’t always obvious. Desirable women come up and start talking to me–yeah, she’s somebody’s girlfriend. They’re all somebody else’s girlfriend initially.

          What’s the survey say, 70% of women admit to having a backup plan and the other 30% are lying? The other saying I’ve heard women use is that, “Men are like software, you should always upgrade”. The competition for desirable females is never over so long as they remain desirable. There’s a word for guys who rest on their laurels, and that word is “divorced”.

          1. We’re talking biological imperative, here, and it’s all about female companionship.

            When Paris judge between Aphrodite, Athena, and Hera as to whom is most beautiful, knowing that he can have what he wants depending on whom he chooses, it’s no wonder that he chooses Aphrodite and the most desirable woman in the world. Athena can make him a great general to conquer the world, but what use is that if someone else still has the world’s most desirable woman? Hera can make him the father of a great nation and wealthy beyond his dreams, but what difference does any of that make if he still can’t have the woman he wants?

            This is the world of men.

            1. Ken:

              Athena can make him a great general to conquer the world, but what use is that if someone else still has the world’s most desirable woman?”

              Dispossession. Whoever rules the world does not only the most desirable woman, but all of them. Whoever takes “biological imperative” seriously should notice the path to polygamy, and to harems. The world you describe is the world of an idiotic man. Read the story, and it even tells you that. Due respect for your willingness to take risks, to the extent that it’s not embellishment. Due respect for the folly it entails.

              1. *Whoever rules the world does not only [have] the most desirable

                1. “Whoever rules the world does not only [have] the most desirable woman, but all of them.”

                  We can’t resolve the dilemma by denying its existence, and we have to accept Greek mythology within the context of its own rules.

                  Dischordia throws a golden apple between the Goddess of Nations (Hera), the Goddess of Love (Aphrodite), and the Goddess of Martial Logic (Athena). The golden apple has written on it, “To the most beautiful”, and the three of them start arguing about who it was meant for. They go to Zeus to settle the argument, but Zeus is no fool–not even Zeus will dare to say which one of them is the most beautiful! So they go to Paris, and to entice him to rush in where Zeus fears to tread, they tell him, “Tell us which one of us you think is the most beautiful, and the one you pick will give you an ultimate gift”

                  So, Paris picks based on what he wants–because each of those goddesses has something they can give him that the others can’t. Athena can give him ultimate success as a conquering general if he picks her. Hera can make him the father of a great nation–she’s the Goddess of Motherhood like “natal” is the root of “nation”. But Aphrodite can make Helen fall in love with him.

                  It’s a no-brainer.

                  1. Women read that story in college and say Paris was thinking with his dick. Meanwhile, “Thinking with your dick” is what makes heterosexual men go to college and seek careers and fortune in the first place. If it weren’t for women, I’d go build a cabin and live in the woods. Have you seen the women that think that’s a great idea? If you’re lucky, they’re like a hot, like, Rainbow Family chick. Generally speaking though, you’re talking about some really gnarly women that will put up with that. Salmon swim against current for hundreds of miles to get up stream, and do you know why?

                    It’s because that’s where the women are, and they’re thinking with their fish sticks.

                    1. Thanks, Ken. I have the book. Even your extended summary doesn’t rival it.

                      “We can’t resolve the dilemma by denying its existence, and we have to accept Greek mythology within the context of its own rules.”

                      You’re mistaken. That’s neither contested, nor relevant. Paris’s choice is not a rule of mythology, it’s an event in mythology. It’s warning, illustration, whatever you make of it. The same goes for the stuff Odysseus does – not another Paris, by the way -, and which opens up other lessons. Such as “see danger coming, and get yourself tied to a mast”. I agree with you that mythology matters. I might add that the girls in mythology are more fascinating than the men. Nonetheless, you continue to get this wrong.

                    2. “But Aphrodite can make Helen fall in love with him.”

                      With Paris as your archetypal man, apparently men are all about true love. Somehow, you neither chose Zeus, nor Odysseus. You should understand that these are different men, different aspects of men. Perhaps Paris shouldn’t be your role model. But whatever is attainable.

                    3. “With Paris as your archetypal man, apparently men are all about true love.”

                      I’m not sure the biological imperative is necessarily about true love. We’re talking about drive.

                      Some people want to be rock stars just because they love music.

                      Some people want their children to be doctors and lawyers just becasue they care about helping the sick and they care about justice.

                      To some people, a cigar is just a cigar.

                      But for most guys, being wealthy, powerful, successful, etc. has something to do with being attractive to women.

                      Women sell cars and beer and shaving equipment. There’s a reason for that.

                      That reason is attested to from classical literature, through the Medieval period, from all sorts of different cultures, through modern literature, contemporary film, and music.

                      Women are why we do all sorts of important things. This shouldn’t be so hard to understand.

                      You aren’t Tulpa, are you?

                    4. Ken, you need to start thinking. And stop assuming that your “insight” that men do things to get women is novel. Way past that. You don’t even understand what criticism is directed at, due to a combination of stupidity and excitement about repeating your “wisdom”. This, so far, is the most pathetic thing I’ve read in Reason’s comments section. The incorrigible idiocy is astounding. You think you have discovered something, when everyone already knows it. Then you fail to see any complexity, fail to grasp written texts, and believe the problem lies in others’ not-knowing the obvious. At least frame your uncalled-for babbling in terms of proximate and ultimate cause, means and end. It’d make you seem like less of a simpleton, albeit not for long.

                      This shouldn’t be so hard to understand.

                      Hilarious.

                    5. Hi Tulpa!

                      Have you ever wondered why everyone can easily pick you out of a crowd–using nothing but a few of your sentences?

                      Have you ever been formally diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome?

                      Have you ever sought treatment for your poor social interactions?

                      You really should. I’m sure this board isn’t the only place you’ve had the same problems. It probably impacts all the other areas of your life, too.

                      Has anyone at work ever suggested you might have trouble getting along with others, and when they did, did you find the suggestion baffling?

  12. It depends on how you define “sex.”

    “Oh yeah, Sarah. Scrub that dirty, dirty car good.”

    1. go on….

  13. Also, you could have close to half of the population buying and selling sex. It wouldn’t matter. How many people have tried drugs? Given them out to a buddy? Does that stop most people from blithely telling others they agree they can’t be legalized? At most you get people who will make a pot exemption.

  14. One of the most notable findings is that twenty-somethings are much more likely than their elders to think buying and selling sex should be illegal and to recommend prison as an appropriate punishment.

    Indeed. Must be one of the iron laws of sex. Present in affluent societies, linked to monogamy, and status differences. In short: wherever there is a marriage market.

    1. What I would like to know is whether the “elders” were once – in their youth – as restrictive as the current youth. (Note that the “elders” are out of the market for sex/marriage, as providers and customers.)

  15. six percent of respondents said they have been paid for sex in the past […] Men and women were equally likely to have accepted payment for sex

    Six percent of men have been paid for sex? In money? Bullshit.

    1. Armed forces.

      I have no idea how many enlisted guys are stationed overseas, but I bet their numbers are considerably higher.

      1. I have no doubt that many guys in the armed forces have paid for sex, I just don’t believe that so many have been paid for sex.

    2. Do you think the number is higher or lower, and why?

      1. I vote higher. Stationed temporarily in a foreign land, often without a desire to form a permanent attachment to some gal whose family is 6,000 miles from yours, sometimes not wanting to form attachments knowing you could be redeployed or shot dead in a few months, and yet still needing certain biological needs to be met.

      2. That’s way too high. Very, very few heterosexual men ever get paid for sex.

        1. I’d suggest that gay-for-pay is surprisingly lucrative, but I’m assuming you’ll discount everyone who has ever had sex with a dude for any reason as gay even if all of their non-work sex is straight.

          Craigslist is hilariously rife with big-dicked, ostensibly straight men who are looking to get their dick sucked and make money at the same time. A chunk of those people are clearly working out gay fantasy, but some of it seems genuine.

    3. Six percent of men have been paid for sex? In money? Bullshit.

      Assuming statistically heteronormative sex, the paid *and* accepted numbers would be roughly normal between men and women.

      The only way to get an order of magnitude difference between the genders is to play fast and loose with definitions of sex, large amounts of homosexual sex, or both.

      So, do you think the number of men who’ve been paid for gay sex is close to 6% and/or do you think the number of women who’ve been paid for lesbian sex is close to 6%?

      Additionally, there’s the age old adage(s); You don’t pay the hooker for sex, you pay them to leave/keep their mouth shut.

      1. Assuming statistically heteronormative sex, the paid *and* accepted numbers would be roughly normal between men and women.

        The only way to get an order of magnitude difference between the genders is to play fast and loose with definitions of sex, large amounts of homosexual sex, or both.

        …or if you assume that the women who work as prostitutes see many clients, and that many of the male clients only visit sex workers once or twice…

        1. …or if you assume that the women who work as prostitutes see many clients, and that many of the male clients only visit sex workers once or twice…

          Assuming strict definitions (which may not apply), this doesn’t exactly jive with the roughly equal numbers of men and women accepting payment.

          But I acknowledge your point and cede the difference in a ‘a little from column A, a little from column B’ fashion.

          1. I assume the vast majority of male prostitutes have male clients.

            1. I also assume that respondants lied to the pollsters.

            2. Right, this is where I believe PapayaSF to be mistaken or misinterpreting the 6% number. ~6% of men have been paid for sex overwhelmingly by other men.

              That number or idea doesn’t seem outrageous or bullshit to me.

              1. Male homosexuals are not 6% of the population. It’s more like half of that. And not all of them have been paid.

                1. Male homosexuals are not 6% of the population.

                  Whoever said they were? Sex work is a job, not necessarily a paid hobby.

                  1. I think the idea that 6% of men get paid for sex work must be nonsense. The number of male heterosexual escorts for women is miniscule. That leaves gay escorts and “gay for pay.” Which means, if the 6% is to be believed, that every gay male in the US has accepted money for sex, plus a roughly equal number of (nominally) heterosexual men have accepted money for gay sex. I just don’t believe those numbers.

                  2. Good thought, but men are pretty rigidly heterosexual. As a side note, I heard that it’s not uncommon for heterosexual porn actors to do homosexual scenes, because those pay much better.

                    1. Lot of faggot cookies on the sets of those gay porn shoots…….

                    2. “Lot of faggot cookies on the sets of those gay porn shoots…….”

                      Is “faggot cookies” some kind of technical term that’s based on your intimate familiarity with the field, or are you stating the obvious in a dull way?

  16. I’d accept payment for sex, but the bottom appears to have fallen out of my market price.

    1. Then stick a ham in it and pull out the bone!

      Wait, different bottom.

  17. As an unscientific poll, how many of you have either paid for sex or been paid for sex? Or know a person who has?

    1. I have a friend that hired a Canadian “escort” during a rough patch in his early 20’s and paid a stripper to blow him in his late 20’s.

    2. Both. I’ve net about $150 depending on the Euro exchange rate in January 2014.

    3. Paid in cash? No. Paid in drugs? Yes.

      And I know people who have been paid in cash.

      I don’t think I know anyone who has told me they paid for it.

      1. “Paid in drugs? Yes.”

        So…how you doin’?

        1. mf sober

          1. Nicole, if you’d told me about your drug induced sexcapades, I might not have stood you up that one time.

            LOL, jk I still wouldn’t have showed up because I’m a loose cannon who doesn’t play by the rules.

            1. Um…literally my entire nonwork life is drug-induced sexcapades.

              Well and Melville. But that’s related anyway.

                1. Yes, literally.

              1. So is posting here work? Or are we all unwitting players in a drug-fueled orgy?

                1. Cause the prose style here seldom hits Melville level

                  1. If you take the first letter of every one of my posts, I’m slowly typing out the entirety of Billy Budd.

                    1. That would be the most awesome trolling in the history of the internet.

                    2. Then what in God’s name is SugarFree writing out?!?!

                      the Necronimicon?!

    4. either a) paid for sex or b) been paid for sex?

      a) no, but came close in amsterdam on 2 occasions. both times rediscovered how depressing it was and was revolted.

      b) does accepting beer count? I once responded to a late-night knock on my door where 2 women arrived with a six-pack and demanded i sleep with both of them. I don’t think i would have refused sans-beer… but it sure didn’t hurt. I felt at least somewhat beholden.

      1. Why are you pitching your beer-commercial ideas here?

        1. neither here nor there…. but it *was* Dos Equis

          i dont know what that suggests about either the brand, or me. I think it was mostly to do with what the bodega on my corner had in stock. that wasn’t in cans.

    5. Or know a person who has?

      Is there a box for; “I know someone who got a massage at 2 a.m.”?

      1. Yes. There’s obviously a box for someone that gets a massage at 2 am.

    6. nevah… sadly 🙁

      1. though my best friend got a prostitute at the ol’ Bunny Ranch in NV.

        Another friend of mine has done “tours” of Cambodia & Thailand, along with some hook-ups in Dubai and Kenya.

        and yet another has used prostitutes in Germany and gotten an escort here locally.

    7. I know a guy who’s bought hand jobs in Thai massage parlors in Thailand. That’s about it.

    8. a) no
      b) no
      c) have known dudes who have paid for sex. Haven’t known any women who have paid for sex.

    9. Neither.

      Must admit, had I been in Germany when single – Frankfurt would have been a temptation.

      1. One guy in my unit must have been whoring every other weekend the whole 8 months I was there.

    10. Paid once, and what sold me is when she offered me a discount.

      I know a few people who have.

    11. 1) one way or another
      2) oh, they pay, one way or another. Mwahaha

    12. I once gave a guy a blowjob for a pack of cigarettes in high school.

    13. Does a chubby girl buying me dinner for sex (or so I assume) count? If so, check both boxes.

  18. I’m confused about why the comments section didn’t turn into a show of hands for who has bought and sold sex.

    1. Hey, I just asked. Let’s see who is willing to discuss it.

      1. Well I know that now!

        1. I’m just glad we’re on the same page.

    2. sloopyinTEXAS|3.11.16 @ 2:23PM| block | mute | #

      As an unscientific poll, how many of you have either paid for sex or been paid for sex? Or know a person who has?

      Just say Nikki|3.11.16 @ 2:26PM| block | mute | #

      I’m confused about why the comments section didn’t turn into a show of hands for who has bought and sold sex.

      Love the timing and juxtaposition.

    3. Oh, we’ve paid Nikki, we’ve all paid. Dearly.

      1. Wait, you all paid Nikki?

        1. Group discounts.

          1. “But Yelp said she was ‘the worst’?!”

            1. I treat yelp like movie critics whenever micheal bay makes a movie, and the those stupid critics pan it for being a splodie fest … one doobie + 4 pints = awesome movie experience… same goes for nikki.

  19. Men and women were equally likely to have accepted payment for sex, but just one percent of the women said they had paid for it themselves, while 12 percent of the men said as much.

    So, 10X as many men paying for a service provided by an even split of men and women? Even when it comes to prostitution the gay-for-pay patriarchy is holding women down!

  20. “Twenty-somethings were also the most likely to say prison was an appropriate punishment for sex workers, with 24 percent in favor. Just 15 percent of the oldest cohort believed prison was the answer”

    Sad to see millenials showing their statist inclinations, throw them in prison to stop them from doing what they want with their bodies. Fuck them. Having attended high school and college in the 80’s I am truly saddened by how far we are backsliding when it comes to freedom… Inch by inch they are tossing basic freedoms out in favour of “safety”. and they are picking up speed….Ben was right they deserve neither, but I sure as hell do.

    1. I’m not even sure what prostitution has to do with safety. You’d think Millennials would be more in favor of legal prostitution, like they are with weed.

      1. You’d think Millennials would be more in favor of legal prostitution, like they are with weed.

        Not enough potential tax revenue from prostitution?

      2. Safety isn’t necessarily the most acurate descripter, but related… how many laws (and regs) are designed to protect us from ourselves…. countless. Prostitution laws are no different…. “We morally superiors deem you trading sexual services to be demeaning to you, therefore we forbid it…”

      3. They think it’s “violence against women.” Taking a strong stand against prostitution used to be a good way to get into a hipster girl’s pants; now it’s a sine qua non with nearly any woman. I don’t think I’ve met a woman who I wasn’t confident would flip her shit if I so much as suggested that I though prostitution should be legal. “It’s so degrading to women, blah blah blah.” Not nearly as degrading as cleaning shit off of a toilet for minimum wage, but janitoring isn’t illegal.

        Back when men didn’t worry as much about women’s political opinions, there seemed to have been a tacit acceptance of prostitution. These days though, I’ve overheard guys pine for approval from the opposite sex by boasting how anti-porn they are.

    2. Sad to see millenials showing their statist inclinations, throw them in prison to stop them from doing what they want with their bodies.

      Not to mention that, for the majority of males who are prostitutes, this is just a change of address and cigarettes for dollars.

  21. But most Americans still think prostitution is “morally wrong.”

    Why do we need the scare quotes here? It’s either morally wrong or it isn’t.

    I know it’s morally wrong, but that doesn’t mean I use force-of-arms against it*. Whether or not it’s morally wrong isn’t even really a libertarian question.

    *I’m a Christian and Christ hung out with lots of “sinners”. Fascinatingly enough, not once did the Gospels record him saying that his followers should petition government to persecute the prostitutes. Instead, he told the adulterous woman to “Go and leave your life of sin”.

    1. It’s not scare quotes. It’s quoting the survey.

      1. No, it has to be proof of ENB’s moral relativism and depravity.

    2. Those might be real quotes. As in, most Americans would say “it’s morally wrong”. There may be an absolute morality, but that is unrelated to what Americans might say about the morality of a particular activity.

      1. Generally speaking morality is a construct, my morality tells me that telling someone what they can do with themselves while not hurting anyone else is morally wrong.

    3. Fascinatingly enough, not once did the Gospels record him saying that his followers should petition government to persecute the prostitutes. Instead, he told the adulterous woman to “Go and leave your life of sin”.

      This. That woman’s sin was between her and God, not a matter for the government or the population at large to address (not a NAP violation).

  22. But a prostitute is someone who would love you
    No matter who you are, or what you look like.
    Yes, it’s true, children.
    That’s not why you pay a prostitute,
    No, you don’t pay her to stay, you pay her to leave afterwards.
    That’s why I pays a lot for prostitutes!

    Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. James Taylor.

    James Taylor: A prostitute is like any other woman
    They all trade somethin’ for sex and they do it well.
    Chef: And that’s why I say-
    Chef and James Taylor: Prostitutes! Prostitutes! They-
    Chef: Oohhhh [sees principal]
    James Taylor, what the hell are you doin’ in here?!
    Singing’ about prostitutes to the children! Get out of here!

  23. Surprise/disappointment of the thread: sarcasmic didn’t show up to say “You don’t pay a prostitute for sex, you pay them to leave”

    1. Others seem to have covered it.

      1. It’s not the same though 🙁

        1. I’d pay you to stay and have a nice chat, Jesse.

          1. He also makes a great Irish mule.
            *holds ice pack against anus*

            1. I thought you said “more” rohypnol. You know I have trouble with “more” and “no”. They sound so similar.

              1. You calling me ESL, pendejo????

          2. That is the last time I try to be polite.

            1. I do make an excellent (99.9% rohypnol-free) mule.

  24. I know I’m throwing in late…. but sometimes I actually have to do the work that I’m paid for…

  25. I can’t believe this aspect has not yet been discussed (or did I miss it?):

    Republicans were more likely than Democrats to have paid for sex (seven percent versus four percent), but also much more likely to say that doing so was immoral (70 percent versus 54 percent)… Democrats were also more likely than Republicans to have been paid for sex, at eight percent versus five percent.

    So Reps are paying Dems for sex (and hating themselves for doing it, apparently).

    1. You’re asssuming that Repulicans are a monolithic group.

      1. That was a generalization of the trend, duh. I just thought it was an interesting dichotomy.

        1. Uh-huh. Democrats are prostitutes and want to make prostitution illegal. (“Generalizing the trend”.)

      2. Yes! He should keep in mind that there are very fine gradations to GOP racism, hypocrisy, and abetting the theft from the middle class, blue collar workers, and the working poor on behalf of corporate oligarches, dammit!

  26. Looks like young females don’t want the competition of a safe, legal and paid alternative.

    1. Makes one wonder about that 19th amendment, amirite?

  27. “One of the most notable findings is that twenty-somethings are much more likely than their elders to think buying and selling sex should be illegal and to recommend prison as an appropriate punishment. ”

    Fucking feminism.

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