State Judge Says Alabama Death Sentence Law is Unconstitutional
"Hijacked by partisan interests and unlawful legislative neglect."
The death penalty sentencing law in Alabama was ruled unconstitutional by Jefferson County Circuit Judge Tracie Todd after four capital murder defendants challenged its validity. From AL.com:
"There is a time and place for diplomacy and subtlety. That time and place has been expunged by the dire state of the justice system in Alabama," Todd wrote in her ruling, issued Thursday afternoon. "It is clear, from here on the front line, that Alabama's judiciary has unequivocally been hijacked by partisan interests and unlawful legislative neglect."
The attorney for Stanley Chatman, one of the capital murder defendants, argued that Alabama's death sentencing law was similar to Florida's, which was ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in January 2016. In the short term, Todd's ruling means that she won't allow the death penalty to be used in cases before her court, but other judges can decide whether to follow her in this regard or not.
While the death penalty is sold as a medical procedure, it actually causes enormous pain and suffering. For more, click below to watch "The Battle for Death Penalty Transparency:"
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"""While the death penalty is sold as a medical procedure"""
I never considered it a medical procedure. I though it was an execution procedure.
"""which allows judges to override jury recommendations of life without parole and instead impose the death penalty, is unconstitutional.""
This I agree with, I don't think judges should be allowed to increase the penalty that the jury has decided
While the death penalty is sold as a medical procedure, it actually causes enormous pain and suffering....to the murderer. This is clearly a statement in support of the death penalty.
Yeah, I agree: it's totally okay to torture people if they're bad people. /sarc
Seriously, though, what if the person was wrongfully convicted? I guess the pain and suffering s/he undergoes is worth the cost to satisfy your basic animal desire for revenge.
Unless you are a pacifist and don't believe in jail or any other punishment but kumbayaa I can't see how you have a point. All punishments bring suffering.
And if they just excited them with a really big bullet to the back of th head, not much actual pain. Just instant death.
Im not sure why states can't get their shit together on painless execution. Pre-medicate and induce anesthesia as you would for any surgery, then give a huge overdose of barbiturates. We do it for pets all the time. I get government incompetence and all, but this is just baffling to me.
Why is it baffling? These people are cruel. It's that simple.
Inert gas asphyxiation
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation
"...In April 2015, Governor Mary Fallin of Oklahoma signed a bill allowing nitrogen asphyxiation as an alternative execution method..."
You don't even need to go the pharmaceutical route, we dispatch millions of livestock each year, humanely. A nice bonk on the noggin and then let'em bleed out.
I still prefer the guillotine.
Tree
of
Woe
http://conan.wikia.com/wiki/Tree_of_Woe
Come clean. You just want their quickenings.
Meh. The only reason I'm against the death penalty is that the government is too corrupt and too incompetent to ensure they have the right person.
Fuck this pissing and moaning about being humane to pieces of human garbage. If you could prove without a shadow of a doubt the accused are truly guilty...I'm good with lighting up old sparky or giving them the 5 gun salute.
People have been wrongfully accused "beyond a reasonable doubt" in our system, though. While I hope that the vast majority of people on death row actually unlawfully killed somebody, we all know that isn't the case. Just lock 'em up for life just in case there was a mistake.
You're saying tha majority of people on death row didn't actually unlawfully kill people?
Right. I do think there should be evidentiary requirements at the very least though to even try it as a death penalty case
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OT- Facederp today says the daily show totally exposed gun nuts. Apparently the CDC should do gun studies to make less gun deaths. Because research is science, and they fucking love science.
Guns are apparently a disease. Why isn't the DMV doing gun studies?
Wanting to own a gun is a mental disease, the only people we allow to own guns should be those that don't want one.
Excellent point, but science could make guns that don't shoot people. Then all the gun nuts could still have guns but we would all be safe and there would be less shootings. That's what science says.
I was gonna make a "guns don't shoot people, people..." joke. Then it struck me that science probably will build a self ready-aim-firing gun, long before a gun that knows what it's pointed at.
Wanting power over others is a disease. The only people we should allow to have power are those who don't want it.
That of course is the great libertarian conundrum: how can people with no desire for power gain the political power necessary to get government to leave people alone?
My solution would be to replace elections with a lottery.
"Sorry dude, but you've been sentenced to be our representative for the next two years."
Exempting women of course.
Can't draft women.
I heard an old timey sci-fi radio show on Sirius a while back, where a colony of aliens were trying to pass themselves off as humans. They figured that they needed to have a criminal and forced the guy with the shiftiest eyes into the gig. The mayor keep accosting the guy because he hadn't killed anyone yet. I can just see your plan going that way.. "C'mon on Ted you're our state rep, start oppressing us already."
How can people with no desire for power gain the political power necessary to get government to leave people alone?
Orphan armies?
The founders addressed this problem by pitting power-seekers against one another. This way you get the people who enjoy power doing the job of wielding power while opposing one another. Otherwise you get people who don't like to wield power doing a poor job of it.
The founders didn't count on the branches colluding with each other using words like 'deference.'
Good point. Perhaps our greatest problem today is collusion. The legislative branch deferring to the executive-administrative branch (the fourth branch); the courts deferring to the executive; and both executive and legislative branches deferring to the judicial. Maybe the solution to our problems is to reinstate and strengthen the balance of power.
How do people who do not desire power gain the power to shift the balance of power?
That is the great libertarian conundrum.
" Apparently the CDC should do gun studies to make less gun deaths"
Because they think "public health" is like a backup to the commerce clause - a way to violate the constitution and pretend its for everyone's good.
Its exactly why congress banned using the CDC to regulate guns back in the Clinton administration =
"Virtually all of the scores of CDC-funded firearms studies conducted since 1985 had reached conclusions favoring stricter gun control. This should have come as no surprise, given that ever since 1979, the official goal of the CDC's parent agency, the U.S. Public Health Service, had been "?to reduce the number of handguns in private ownership", starting with a 25% reduction by the turn of the century."'
Pathologizing all human behavior has been a progressive tactic to justify state control of everything since forever. (*please, let AddictionMyth not see this and repost his copy-pasta saying the same)
Holding ideas that don't conform to the progressive narrative is a mental illness. All reality-based people know this.
Except for progressive darling causes like homosexuality and transgenderism. Those are not to be questioned.
"While the death penalty is sold as a medical procedure, it actually causes enormous pain and suffering."
That set-up was way too easy. Give me something challenging.
Not surprisingly Cruz starting out strong in Kansas. Only 8% in though
Jesus still gets votes somewhere
Speaking of Crime and Punishment, and the concept of "Rehabilitation"...
What isn't right with this account?
What isn't right with this account?
Tree vermin.
I haven't had a chance to listen, but there's a debate at Yale on whether water is wet.
Robby posted a livestream earlier this week on H&R
Yeah, but obviously it didn't work, because I didn't notice it.
/sarc
science could make guns that don't shoot people.
That wasn't much help to that kid in Cleveland.
Now, if we gave "safe guns" to cops...
science could make guns that don't shoot people
See: Westworld.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070909/
Killing people with pharmaceutical cocktails? That's terrible; that should never be done to convicts. Or anyone else for that matter. Except the elderly & depressed people because, you know, euthanasia is perfectly acceptable & never ever going to be misused. Oh, and the unborn. It's fine to kill them with drugs too.
But we should never, ever do the same thing to convicts. They get enough drugs in prison. I hear you can get just about anything you want in there. Just like you can out here.
So they should be killed with marijuana. Or bath salts. Maybe a high fat, high sodium diet. GMOs for the tough to kill.
And I wouldn't be against letting them take a ride with unregulated Uber drivers.
But not drugs. Definitely not drugs - they're too terrible.
Death by Big Mac, FTW.