Rape

Male Student Had Drunken Sex with Female Non-Student. Her Dad Called It Rape. Expulsion Imminent.

University of Texas-Austin requires accused student to prove his innocence at due-process-free hearing.

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The University of Texas at Austin has recommended expulsion for a male student who was found responsible for sexual misconduct by the university's Title IX bureaucrats. But the woman he supposedly raped didn't formally accuse him—they remained friends and even flirted via text messages subsequent to the encounter. 

In fact, it was the woman's father who initiated the Title IX proceedings against the male student, "John Doe," who is suing UT-Austin to prevent the university from expelling him. 

The woman, "Jane Roe," is not a UT-Austin student, which raises an important question: Should a university really have a responsibility to meddle in students' private sex lives when parents of non-students file complaints? 

The Title IX bureaucracy at UT-Austin evidently believes so. 

The details of Doe's case are in many ways similar to dozens of other disputed rape cases, with one crucial difference: after some initial confusion, both parties eventually came to the conclusion that their sex was consensual, according to Doe's lawsuit. 

The College Fix reported on the circumstances of the encounter. On March 6, 2015, Doe met Roe and her friend, "Jennifer Smith," at a party near campus. They headed back to Roe's apartment: Smith and Roe went to sleep in the bedroom, while Doe took the couch. Roe was reportedly very drunk. Soon after, Smith invited Doe into the bedroom, where they had sex while Roe was passed out. 

Later, Roe woke up and initiated sexual contact with Doe. Smith noticed, and left the apartment to give them more privacy. They then engaged in sex. Both Smith and Doe believed Roe was fully conscious and capable of giving consent—she was awake, talking, and willing, according to the lawsuit. Doe left the apartment in the morning. 

Afterward, Roe couldn't remember what had happened, and sent a text to Smith berating her for leaving Roe alone with Doe. Smith responded, "I'm sorry, I thought you wanted to have sex with him though." 

Roe also contacted Doe, accusing him of taking advantage of her while she was unconscious. But Doe explained that she wasn't unconscious. Importantly, he explained that she had shared private information about herself—that she had appeared in pornographic films—during the encounter. This led Roe to concede that although she couldn't remember having sex with him, it "sounded passionate." She ceased accusing him, and even began exchanging flirtatious texts with him. On March 16 and 27, she even sent him sexy pictures of herself. They agreed to get together, though they never did. 

But on April 8, Roe's father called UT's police department and told them Doe had sexually assaulted his daughter. His complaint was forwarded to UT's dean of students, who initiated a Title IX investigation, "despite the fact that Ms. Roe was not a UT student and despite her not personally making any claim that she had been sexually assaulted at that point," according to the lawsuit. 

UT's Title IX investigators interviewed Doe, Roe, and Smith, and decided that Doe was guilty. On November 5, they recommended his expulsion. 

Doe has the right to appeal that determination, and was granted a hearing with a panel of university employees. But this hearing lacks even a semblance of fairness. He is not afforded a lawyer—he must argue his case himself. Most notably, he has no power to compel witnesses to appear at the hearing: in other words, he can only cross-examine Smith and Roe if they choose to attend. In fact, UT's rules bar him from questioning the "complainant" even if she does show up (it's not precisely clear to me who the complainant even is, since Roe's father initiated the proceedings). 

In summary: Doe has already been found guilty by a team of Title IX investigators. The responsibility now rests with him to prove he is innocent of sexually assaulting a non-student who never formally accused him of wrongdoing until her father initiated the complaint. Doe is equipped with no tools to achieve this task, since none of the relevant parties are members of campus—nor would they have any obligation to participate, even if they were. 

I've read the text messages and other documents relating to the case. They paint a clear portrait of a messy, drunken hookup that led to hurt feelings between Smith and Roe, and Roe and Doe. But drunken sex is not illegal, and hurting someone's feelings should not be grounds for expulsion. 

Doe's lawsuit alleges gender discrimination and abridgement of due process. I'll be watching this one closely. [Related: Students Had BDSM Sex. Male Says He Obeyed Safe Word. GMU Agreed, Expelled Him Anyway.

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  1. She was previously a porn actress? It’s a little late for her old man to get into the parenting game.

    1. Daddy should check out his daughter’s video resume before pointing fingers.

    2. Pics would be good right about now.

      1. And streaming video. Don’t forget about streaming video.

    3. That was my first thought as well: “Look old man, clearly you dropped the ball, father-wise, long before now. It’s a little to late to try and protect your daughter’s innocence now. Seems that ship sailed a long, long time ago*.”

      *NTTAWWT

    4. This statement, relative to the lauding of women’s agency, animus for slut-shaming, and impugning of conservative family values that runs rampant around here, is blowing my mind;

      (Not that a rape occurred but) If she didn’t want to get raped, her father’s parenting skills shouldn’t have been asking for it!

      1. It’s like any one of those Scooby Doo parodies where the mask slips and, upon pulling it off, it goes go through any number of other characters.

        1. What “mask”? You make it sound like people are ashamed of their views. I have no qualms telling you that I think drunk sex is like drunk driving: it is your voluntary choice to incapacitate yourself and go out in public, and it’s your responsibility to deal with the consequences. If you get too drunk to even remember whether you were raped or had consensual sex, the legal system should not waste resources on your case, period.

          1. What “mask”? You make it sound like people are ashamed of their views.

            There are lots of reasons people wear masks.

            Fist’s was pretty funny.

            Yours is sad.

            1. You really can’t get your accusations straight, can you?

      2. I’m not a role model… Just because I dunk a comment doesn’t mean I should raise your kids.

      3. She wasn’t raped, so the rest of what you say is irrelevant.

        1. She wasn’t raped, so the rest of what you say is irrelevant.

          *Dons uber-meta-gossamer dissection mask*

          I wasn’t commenting on her rape. I was commenting on Fist’s comment.

          *Pulls off mask*

          Okay, and if she was raped, suddenly her Father’s parenting skills are clearly bad and exceedingly relevant?

          1. Okay, and if she was raped, suddenly her Father’s parenting skills are clearly bad and exceedingly relevant?

            Her father’s parenting skills are relevant because her father initiated the Title IX proceedings, evidently either unaware or deluded about the sexual proclivities of his daughter. If she had actually been raped, she herself would have gone to the police and we wouldn’t be talking about her father at all.

    5. I’m going to need to see some proof of this “porn actress” thing.

    6. This could be a windfall for the guy. I would sue the holy shit out of that school. And possibly the chick’s dad.

  2. “Nobody can fuck my daughter but me!”

    1. I was thinking the same thing!

    2. Ivanka’s going after college kids now?

      1. If so, where do I enroll?

          1. Tramp U

        1. Get in line buddy.

    3. There’s probably something to that.

  3. Should a university really have a responsibility to meddle in students’ private sex lives when parents of non-students file complaints?

    Let me answer that question by posing another: Should a university really have a responsibility to meddle in students’ private sex lives?

    1. Those students are really kids, except that they are legally adults, unless they go to college, then they are just kids. This is confusing.

      1. People will call them kids, but the are young adults, with all the rights and responsibilities. What’s confusing is the university taking a claim of rape from a complainant who wasn’t involved in the act, who’s complaint conflicts with what all parties actually involved with the act say wasn’t rape. This is a no-brainer that the university’s counsel should have told them they will lose in a real courtroom.

  4. Due process is a patriarchal construct. Also, the woman obviously had so much false consciousness that she only thought she had consented. It is therefore perfectly acceptable to use rules of procedure devised by the Inquisition enlightened bureaucrats.

    1. Was she lighter than the goose?

  5. Should a university really have a responsibility to meddle in students’ private sex lives when parents of non-students file complaints?

    Hell no. They shouldn’t even meddle in their sex lives when it involves another student. Either it’s warrants a criminal investigation and the police should be involved (if that’s what the alleged victim wants) or it’s a private matter between individuals.

  6. “They paint a clear portrait of a messy, drunken hookup that led to hurt feelings”
    So… college.

  7. So, Title IX is being used as a tool by a father to assert his ownership over her daughter and punish trespassing college students.

    That’ll teach the patriarchy.

      1. *xe, or something.

    1. Eh, I just figured xe was very gender-fluid.

      1. ewwww….fluids!!!

  8. All of this could be easily simplified. If you’re arrested for a felony you’re suspended. If you’re convicted you’re expelled. Done and done. None if this Title IX bullshit.

    1. But then how do useless bureaucrats with delusions of adequacy expand their power? Plus, all those Victims Studies majors have to get jobs doing something. Would you rather those fuckwits be unleashed on the private sector?

      1. there’s a new canal that needs a digging down Panama way…grab a shovel boys and girls, it’s going to be a 2 ton day and no breaks

      2. I would rather have them die homeless. Starving in the streets. Like the democrats say poor people do in this country.

    2. Its even easier to simplify – no need to suspend for an arrest, especially as it can take months to years to fully resolve a case.

      Not need to expel if convicted either – you’ll be in jail so won’t be attending classes. And once your tuition expires . . .

      Done and done. None of this ‘school sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong’ bullshit.

      1. think of the administrators, though

  9. I guess an Honorary High Five wasn’t even considered.

  10. alt text

    “Open for business”

    Runs away

    1. I thought you were Korean, not Japanese.

    2. Why are her pants still on?

  11. So, universities are basically Sharia courts for the bizarro far right?

    1. I think you mis-spelled “left”.

      Or perhaps, just end after “bizarro”. I can’t even file things on a left-to-right axis anymore.

      1. left is the new right and right is the new left.

      2. No, I think bizarro is the right word for it. Their position isn’t so much “don’t do the terrible things the right does” so much as it is “do the exact opposite”. So, superman would help his friends and fight criminals, therefore bizarro will hurt his friends and help criminals. Far right says white people are better than other races, so bizarro far right says they are the worst. Far right says rape victims are often liars and sluts, so bizarro far right says says “believe all victims uncritically, due process be damned”. Etc.

        We should just consider ourselves lucky the right no longer cares much about banning gay sex, or the bizarro right would try to make it mandatory.

        1. So much stupid in one post. Name a Major university that hasn’t caved into the vicious little SJW progtards. I’ll wait, but I won’t hold my breath.

          1. Either you misplaced your comment, or you have some superbly bad reading skills.

        2. Should point out that Carson is also from the mirror universe (note the goatee). In our universe, Carson was a promising middle class kid who got caught up in drugs and gangs and ended up stabbing a friend to death, an act which put him firmly on the path to evil. Known as the “brain surgeon” for his gory but precise knifework in the service of the Crips, he was eventually caught and sentenced to life in prison after being convicted of 12 murders, and was suspected of involvement in at least 30 more.

        3. hint: far right aren’t collectivists–racism is a disease of collectivists. Exhibiting racism means one is leftist regardless of where one places oneself on the spectrum

          1. Anyone can be a collectivist, or perhaps ‘tribalist’ would be a better word.

        4. Like the way the left helps home invaders sue homeowners who shoot them in self defense while being robbed/beaten/raped.

  12. Sheesh. What a ridiculous story. Poor John Doe.

    …Though I am envious.

    1. Dude passionately nailed a porn actress!

      1. Shortly after servicing her friend, bro! BRO!!!

        BRO!!!!!!

        1. You can’t spell slut without U-T, am I right?

          (men can be sluts too, you fucking misandrists).

          1. Man slut shamer!

  13. I wouldn’t be surprised if the headline was talking about Animal House because it would be a perfect description of a large part of the plot. When art imitates life and the art is Animal House, it’s apparent the world is getting stupider.

    Also, I hope the citizens of Texas take note of this and realize how much tax money is being wasted on this idiocy and they advocate to have Dean Wormer removed ASAP.

    1. When art imitates life and the art is Animal House, it’s apparent the world is getting stupider.

      When I saw Animal House in the theater back in the day, I was stunned.

      Because a lot of happened in that movie (not including the parade) was a story that I had already heard from my father about his fraternity career in the ’50s. Except for the story about the mule and the drunk Mexican hooker. That wasn’t in the movie.

      1. kicking you in the head means “no.”

  14. I’ve read the text messages and other documents relating to the case. They paint a clear portrait of a messy, drunken hookup that led to hurt feelings between Smith and Roe, and Roe and Doe. But drunken sex is not illegal, and hurting someone’s feelings should not be grounds for expulsion.

    Just what a martini-swilling, honkey-Cosmo would say.

    1. Impairment means consent for sex can’t be given but try to make that kind of argument after getting drunk and robbing a liquor store. These people need to make up their minds.

      1. Or, as somebody pointed out, apparently you can be too drunk to consent to sex, but not too drunk to consent to a breathalyzer.

      2. This is the standard:
        1. A woman is not responsible for her decisions while under the influence of alcohol.
        2. A man is completely responsible for any decision made under the influence of alcohol.

        Because we’re all equal, or something.

  15. How does the father even have standing in this case? She’s an adult, this isn’t the fucking middle ages

    1. “Standing”? What do you think this is, a court of law?

      1. Kangaroo Court if there ever was one

  16. I have a nine year old son. I think I’ll start a list of necessities when goes away to college-

    Mini-fridge
    Monitor
    Computer
    Printer
    Mini-data server
    Sheets
    Blankets
    Binders
    Pens
    Pencils
    Paper (college ruled of course)
    Food
    Money on ID card
    Starting out cash
    Chloroform
    Pick Ax
    Rope
    Shovel
    Drop cloths
    Rags
    Bleach
    Ball gag
    Clothes
    Lofts
    Chair/Couch
    End Table
    Carpet

    That should just about do it.

    You look back at the early part of the 20th century, where a woman could be ruined from “good standing” for going off unsupervised. How people in general could have their lives ruined by merely the accusation creating scandal. then through the forties and fifties, things became a LITTLE looser for the average person, but there were still plenty of tightly controlled situations as far as conduct (military, the mere mention of communism). Then the sixties came, seguing into the seventies, and things got looser for more and more people across the board. Then eighties where everyone but the Pope was on coke, and into the early nineties. But over the last twenty years, even though we have an internet filled with famous people fucking, videos of people eating s#!t, degrading entertainment form one end of the “dial” to the other on TV, we now have returned to a culture where if a GUY goes off unsupervised, his life can be ruined.

    1. Was watching a Pinkerton documentary when he was protecting Lincoln against the first plot to assassinate him. Pinkerton had a female detective helping while they were in a rail car headed to Washington. She had to get off one stop earlier because it would look improper for her to be getting out of Lincoln’s rail car when his wife was not present even though there were a number of other men on the car and she had a legitimate reason for being there.

      1. I bet she did, I bet she did, wink wink nudge nudge, say no more.

        1. But everyone knows Lincoln was gay.

          1. Therefore; Lincoln was killed due to sexism
            /progderp

    2. I have a nine year old son.

      And you honestly think they’ll use paper? I imagine grading bots will be wired directly to email accounts and file sharing services at that point. That or colleges won’t even be in business.

      1. Colleges actually go out of business when direct interface replaces all other media.

        It’s amazing how quickly you learn when you can blip the source material as needed for any task.

        No more teachers, but the market for original research explodes.

      2. We should bypass students altogether.

      3. Ny then they will upload all the SJW crap directly into his brain and turn him into a progbot.

    3. Your list was incomplete – you forgot the quicklime

    4. You forgot the woodchipper…

    5. then through the forties and fifties, things became a LITTLE looser for the average person

      That’s when birth control pills appeared. Huge change.

      About 1972 I got back from Vietnam, and was stationed at Fort Hood. My wife needed two classes to finish college, and North Texas State decided she needed to return to campus for a summer session and live in a dorm. By that time my wife was 6 months pregnant.
      As her husband, NTSU required me to sign a release to allow her to leave campus overnight on the weekends.

    6. Mini-fridge, Monitor, Computer, Printer, Mini-data server, Sheets, Blankets, Binders…

      My grandkids are getting a laptop and tuition to an online university.

  17. The solution to this problem is to have a third party present at consummation. Crusty volunteers for the job.

    1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk

      Dave Chappelle solved this years ago.

    2. But the guy already did that, according to the story.

      1. So, the only question that remains is when do we shut the book on this little experiment and conclude; Democracy = Clusterfuck.

        1. We knew that going in–that’s why we set up a republic.

          I don’t think anyone imagined the insidiousness of ‘fair’.

        2. Just euthanize all the progressives. Problem solved.

  18. Yes means no?

    1. Does anyone here remember in Back to School where Sally Kellerman’s charactor kept telling the kid “no means yes”? I think he got the smackdown near the end and she said “sometime no means no” or something to that effect.

      1. “maybe you can help me straighten out my Longfellow.”

        1. “Why don’t you call me some time when you have no class?”

  19. Start losing some big money lawsuits over being the date police and that eventually has to hurt donations. Who want’s to keep giving you money to make the lawyers rich?

    1. The problem is, feminists and purported victims sue universities more often, for more money, with better lawyers, and a better chance of winning. And more media attention. So in net, the colleges have a financial incentive to screw men over like this if it means less chance of a law suit from an alleged female victim.

      I mean, who’s covering this? Reason, thecollegefix? FIRE? No one who gets any real attention. But when that girl sued Georgetown (I think?) last year because the guy she accused of raping her wasn’t expelled, even though the university followed all the rules impeccable and there was simply too little evidence for guilty verdict, got plenty of mainstream press. Hell, more people still think the UVA rape was real than will ever hear about this story. So in the end, if a male student gets accused by a female one (or nonstudent), no matter how obviously innocent he is, it’s still less financially risky to expel him than to give him a fair hearing.

    2. Donors to democrat politicians?

  20. In fact, it was the woman’s father who initiated the Title IX proceedings against the male student, “John Doe,” who is suing UT-Austin to prevent the university from expelling him.

    The woman, “Jane Roe,” is not a UT-Austin student, which raises an important question: Should a university really have a responsibility to meddle in students’ private sex lives when parents of non-students file complaints?

    So it sounds like jes’ folks are figuring out how to use the stupidity of bureaucracy to bludgeon people they don’t like.

  21. I can’t wait for the college bubble to burst.

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  23. Just once, I’d like to get more thorough insight into the thought process behind such committees. This decision seems so inexplicable that I have to believe there is some information that we don’t have. Right? There just HAS to be. Please?

    1. Nope, it’s a witch hunt. We have due process for a reason.

    2. It’s simple to understand.

      Suspend Male and no one gives a damn but him.

      Declare him not guilty, and the Progressive Theocracy likely will throw a shitfit. Stain on you personally, supervisors pissed off, identify you as a problem employee because you don’t protect the bureaucracy first, you’re potentially fired or move to a rubber room. Career in shambles.

      1. So long as schools are trapped by this logic, but also continually lose massive lawsuits by implementing it, this can only lead to the implosion of higher education. So, it’s got that going for it.

        1. Our rights are only worth as much as the lawyers we can afford to prosecute their violation and the media we can convince to publicize. As long as the Jackies and Tawana Bradleys of the world have major interest groups with the best lawyers and the biggest news outlets on their side, the witch hangings will go on.

          Sure, maybe tuition will go up to pay for the law suits. But soon we’ll all be paying for it after higher education is socialized.

      2. ..and even with that deck stacked against him, Mattress Girl’s slander victim was exonerated by the Apparatchiki, which kind of proves conclusively that Mattress Girl was a lying ho.

        -jcr

        1. And after he gets his settlement, he should wait a few years. And then have her quietly disappear.

  24. Dude.

    Nice.

    But also, that sucks.

  25. I can’t keep that shit straight. Who fucked who? Doe, Roe, Hoes, and Smith? Was it like a very-anonymous gangbang?

    1. I’m disappointed that his name isn’t John Wade

    2. It was Doe and Roe again, but this time it was just some porno with her dad, not a BDSM thing. I swear, those kids need to get their shit together or they’ll be banned from every college in the land.

      1. “get their shit together”
        Wow. BSDM is fine, but scat porn is just wrong.

  26. It seems like everyone involved here is okay with what wick got dipped where, so what’s up with the one chick’s weirdo dad? Going on a purity crusade after she’s moved out and dabbled in porn seems pretty odd and psycho-creepy.

    1. Publicize the dads personal info and lead a crusade against him for being a perverted weirdo, set the SJWs onto him for being the definition of “the patriarchy” and telling his adult daughter what she can and cant do in her free time, comon this shits gotta be a prog paradox or somthing

  27. This is what he meant when he said, “fundamental change.”

    To a progressive due process is a tool of the oppressor. Therefore it is necessary to remove due process as an obstacle to our new normal. We can’t do so in the courts, that damn Constitution thingy prevents it, buuuuutttt, look, Title 9 allows us to create our own courts. Bonus, it only tangentially needs to relate to education.

  28. Doe should approach this with a “who the fuck died and appointed you to a bullshit kangaroo court?” attitude. He should be suing every individual apparatchik with any connection at all to this, how ever tenuous, and suing for enough in monetary damages to scare the shit out of them.

    Then, he should also sue the drunken’s slut’s old man for slander, harassment and malicious litigation.

    -jcr

  29. thanksgiving is probably a lot of fun with that family.

  30. Colleges are self destructing because of their anti-male bias. When the F/M ratio goes above about 1.05 you get “Girls gone wild”. When it gets to 1.5 as it is in quite a few schools you get “Girls Gone Crazy”.

    I took advantage of that in the late 60s when a lot of men were off to war (I had already come back from the war). But I did it smart. I frequented schools as an “outside agitator”. Why waste time and money in school when what I wanted was sex?

    1. The good old days when stalking was just called “auditing”.

  31. But drunken sex is not illegal

    According to the new anti-rape crusaders, it pretty much is. Always.

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  34. So I suppose this ends with another lawsuit where the kid gets a settlement and reinstated after pissing away a bunch of money and his reputation.

    The point of this Title IX sex court nonsense is that under Title IX women have the right to equal access to education – so no gender based discrimination is allowed in anything education-related. Therefore they have to offer equal numbers of sports scholarships, etc. And they have to prevent “hostile environments” on campus – i.e. women can’t be sexually harassed or raped, preventing them from feeling safe and obtaining an education.

    This case makes the whole thing go sideways. The young lady in question is not a student, so is not covered by Title IX. I suppose they are operating under the idea that having the type of person on campus who gets accused of rape is something that creates a “hostile environment”….. which certainly sounds like something the EEOC would get behind if you’ve ever been through any sort of workplace sexual harassment training.

    So yeah, it does sound like the Jezebel crowd has won the day at UT-Austin. The mere accusation of sexual impropriety is enough to earn an expulsion. And under the precedent of “hostile work environment” practice, they seem to be interpreting things correctly. Of course the courts will find that they improperly expelled the kid if pushed hard enough…. but the Feds would also find that they violated women’s rights by not expelling him.

    1. Thing is, there is a serious violation of due process (as a principle of justice) coupled with disparate impact. Disparate impact is putting it mildly; it shouldn’t be impossible to argue that these university “laws” are actually designed to target men. At any rate, what you end up with is a fairly hostile environment for men, as men. (The problem is exacerbated by a lack of pluralism.) I haven’t read of the permissibility (let alone necessity) of “equal hostility”, or “equal sex discrimination”, a sort of compensatory balancing principle. Nor have I seen the explicit admission that “(sex) equality” trumps other principles of justice. (Well, apart from the occasional claim that Title IX trumps the First Amendment.)

    2. I suppose they are operating under the idea that having the type of person on campus who gets accused of rape is something that creates a “hostile environment”….. which certainly sounds like something the EEOC would get behind if you’ve ever been through any sort of workplace sexual harassment training.

      The only people relevantly covered under Title IX in this case are the University and Doe. Everyone else is 2-3 degrees of separation away from having any real standing. The University is accusing him of rape, deciding that being accused creates a hostile environment, and kicking him out.

      But, again, we’re using ideas like ‘covered by law’ and ‘legal standing’ as though, in spite of *all* the evidence *and* testimony, a rape actually occurred and, if a rape did occur, this was anything other than a kangaroo court.

  35. This is the dark side of having heroes in our lives. They can easily rob one of their agency and the dependent being depersonalized doesn’t even see it happening. There are far too many instances of such pseudo heroes acting as martyrs claiming righteousness with their dark desire to protect the rights of others when what they are really doing is robbing those others of personal agency. But when someone steps in like that, acting like the hero, its deceptively easy to fall for it. To become what they want you to be.

  36. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNFAIR!!! Why did the college get involved at all? How is Title IX even applicable?? This sounds like another macho sexist father trying to be a hero when there is no battle to fight.(aka a “white knight”) This story is proof positive of a gynocentric culture that’s completely against men of all ages. First of all, Title IX is completely unfair and should be abolished. It is a gift from President Obama to all the man-hating feminists via his “Dear Colleague” letter. Second, it sounds as though the father is a product of this gynocentric culture b/c as I stated earlier, he sounds like a white knight. The entire culture of the U.S. has been heavily shifted in favor of women ( more than it already was) b/c of Obama.I would also like to know why can’t those involved in this case be named? Let the accuser own up to his actions and let the victim, Doe, be known. Yes, Doe is the victim here.This is precisely why we need a man, A REAL MAN, like Donald Trump in the White House; not a mangina like Obama. I suspect Michelle is coaching Obama on the side to help create these unfair policies, though it is just speculation on my part.SHAME ON YOU OBAMA!!! THIS IS WHY TRUMP SUPPORTERS HATE YOU!!!! VOTE FOR TRUMP 2016!!!!

    1. John v. Johnx coming soon to a thread near you

      1. we really need an upvote system. you have won the thread sir

    2. Yes! we need a Clinton supporter and doner to beat the Democrats!!!!!!! TRUMP!!!11111eleventy!!!!!!
      Sincerely
      /a fucking moron who doesnt understand what trump is

      1. Alfred explains the Joker to Batman………….

        Batman ” I knew the mob wouldn’t go down without a fight, but this is different. They crossed the line.”

        Alfred: “You crossed the line first, sir. You squeezed them, you hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn’t fully understand.”

        Kind of applies to Trump.

  37. Did anyone else read this and wonder if “Jane Roe” is white and “John Doe” is black?

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    1. Not alone? That’s what spitroasting and DP are for. Also, DPP.

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