Can Sheriff Arpaio's Dirty Endorsement Clean Trump's Illegal Immigration Problem?
Trump relied on undocumented workers to amass his non-fortune
Just when you think that this Republican primary can't sink any lower, it does. The latest low point came during last

night's brawl when Donald Trump proudly proclaimed that he had been endorsed by Joe Arpaio.
Arpaio, H&R readers will recall, is Arizona's notorious sheriff who terrorized undocumented workers and abused prisoners for fun. His draconian shenanigans have cost Maricopa County taxpayers $142 million in legal expenses, settlements and court awards and included: dressing male inmates in pink underwear, forcing a pregnant undocumented woman to deliver in shackles, instituting the world's first juvenile chain gang, serving fetid food in jail, and packing thousands of prisoners into a hastily constructed "tent city" ("concentration camp" in his own words) in 145 degrees.
Yet there was Trump touting his tough-on-illegals bona fides by whipping out his inner Valley Girl and boasting that Arpaio has "totally endorsed me." (He's probably saving up David Duke's endorsement for the next debate.)
But Trump maybe hating on illegals now, yet he has been far from averse to using them to build his own (non) fortune (there is some credible evidence that his bank balance estimated worth may be $250 million, no bigger than what he inherited, his constant paeans to his own wealth and success notwithstanding). And even Arapaio's dirty endorsement may not be enough to clean up Trump's sordid record.
As Rubio pointed out last night, Trump relied on 200 illegal Polish workers to build the Trump Tower in midtown Manhattan. This saved Trump a bundle in union wages and benefits that he would have had to pay had he hired American workers.
But that is not even the worst of it. He refused to pay this Polish brigade — as it came to be called — even the meager wages he had promised. How meager? $4 to $5 an hour for 12-hour shifts with nothing extra for overtime.
With the help of unions, the workers launched a $4 million class action lawsuit that lingered in courts for decades until finally The Donald, after vowing to never settle out-of-court, settled out-of-court for an undisclosed amount.
Trump says that he should not have been held responsible given that his contractor hired those workers not him. But a similar defense didn't work for poor Mitt Romney when he tried to justify the undocumented workers tending to his lawn.
What's more, this was hardly Trump's only foray with foreign workers. As The New York Times has reported, Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida, which is "one of the most highly regarded private clubs in the world," is teeming with foreign labor:
Since 2010, nearly 300 United States residents have applied or been referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there. But according to federal records, only 17 have been hired. In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries.
[Trump] pursued more than 500 visas for foreign workers at Mara-Lago since 2010, according to the United States Department of Labor, while hundreds of domestic applicants failed to get the same jobs. The visas are issued through one of a handful of legal and often debated programs through which employers can temporarily hire foreign workers when American labor is not available. As part of its applications for the visas submitted to the Labor Department, Mr. Trump's Mar-a-Lago attested that in the vast majority of cases, it was unable to fill the positions with American workers, or, as he told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" in September, "getting help in Palm Beach during the season is almost impossible." Asked why his club must seek so many foreign workers when Americans have applied for the same positions, Mr. Trump said in a telephone interview from Mar-a-Lago this month: "The only reason they wouldn't get a callback is that they weren't qualified, for some reason. There are very few qualified people during the high season in the area."
There would be nothing wrong with this, except for the rank hypocrisy: A man whose whole presidential campaign is based on demonizing American employers who hire foreign workers and allegedly deprive Americans of jobs is trying to hang on to his fortune, such as it is, by hiring foreign workers and depriving Americans of jobs.
But the candidate who is truly pathetic on immigration in this election cycle is not Trump. It isn't even Cruz who thinks that Trump's anti-amnesty screeds don't go far enough; no one expected any decencey from him any way. It is Rubio. Instead of proudly sticking to his high-minded, pro-immigration rhetoric, he has gone Trump-lite by: trying to distance himself from the Gang of Eight reforms, especially the provision relating to the legalization of undocumented workers; huffing-and-puffing about securing the border instead of creating a guest worker program to solve the undocumented worker problem; saber-rattling against Syrian refugees after once making a noble case for taking more Middle Eastern refugees because that's what "America stands for." (Say what you will about Jeb Bush's sad candidacy, but at least he stuck to his guns on this issue.)
Last night was undoubtedly Rubio's strongest performance. It was heart warming to watch him smack Trump around and expose him for the con man he is. Whether this will translate into any victories for him on Super Tuesday remains to be seen.
But even if it does, they'll be pyrrhic victories given that they'll come at the price of accepting Trump's ugly terms.
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Question: Will Arizona's new Libertarian Supreme Court judge have any effect on the reign of Joe Arpaio?
I suspect age will end that reign sooner rather than later.
"Born: June 14, 1932 (age 83)"
So Maricopa County's libertarian moment is strictly dependent on the increasing mortality rate amongst uneducated white males?
Well, one of them...
But the candidate who is truly pathetic on immigration in this election cycle is not Trump. It isn't even Cruz who thinks that Trump's anti-amnesty screeds don't go far enough; no one expected any decencey [sic] from him any way. It is Rubio.
Ah, the heretic or apostate is always worse than the infidel, eh?
Well, Rubio has gotten into the bad habit of saying one thing about immigration in Spanish, and something else in English. A little trick he probably picked up from Yassir Arafat.
I honestly see zero redeeming qualities in Rubio.
He hoisted the Jolly Roger as soon as he got to DC.
Predictable, really.
Arafat spoke Spanish?
*narrows gaze*
All the se?or members of his cabinet spoke Spanish, tu.
NO TONIO HE SPOKE LIES!
Cruz insists on enforcing existing immigration law . That does make him much tougher than Mr touchback amnesty Trump, but it is entirely consistent with Cruz's adherence to the constitution and should be lauded not criticized.
Honestly, if I could send one, but only one, of them to jail, I'd be hard pressed to pick between Hillary and Arpaio.
Send Hillary to Arpaio's jail?
And make him monitor her in the shower.
Holy cow, Swiss, that's stone cold. Stone. Cold.
You've been here too long, Switzy.
I....I...should have skipped reading so much SugarFree material.
It's OK. You'll be fine.
You say that to all the dungeon occupants.
Where's your Cuban sandwich with Trump pudding story at, hmmm?
Arpaio keeps getting elected so the people there must like what he's doing.
Which is why it's good to be a constitutional republic and not a pure democracy.
Zeb,
A tough sheriff that is hugely popular and so gets reelected for a long time, is much harsher than many on this site like. So he gets no civil protection and should be tossed in his clink. A proud libertarian moment!
Hillary, noted violator of law via public new about her secret server stuff, obviously yes to a prison stay for her.
Talk about con man, Rubio isn't even a natural born Citizen.
Shit. Trump just lost my vote. And I was starting to like the guy.
Don't worry, Cruz or Rubio will be along to disappoint you with something even worse before the day is out.
So, Christie will be Trump's AG. Arpaio will get Department of Corrections? Or maybe INS?
"Joe, as my new Department of Corrections boss, I expect to see a lot of hands-on, front-line management. If you aren't spending every working day in one prison or another, I'm going to want to know why."
Since 2010, nearly 300 United States residents have applied or been referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there. But according to federal records, only 17 have been hired. In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries.
Scanning to see how Trumpelos will care about his....scanning.....scanning....[bangs on scanner]...scanning...
Huh. Jack and squat, and both of them are still voting for Trump.
"A man whose whole presidential campaign is based on demonizing American employers who hire foreign workers and deprive Americans of jobs is trying to hang on to his fortune, such as it is, by hiring foreign workers and depriving Americans of jobs."
Trump supporters don't care whether that's hypocritical any more than Hillary's supporters care whether she's a crook.
Regardless of whether we agree with Trump's supporters, they want someone who will do something about immigration--Mexican, Muslim, or otherwise. In case Ms. Dalmia missed the headlines after the Nevada primary, the third of the Republicans that registered Republican, and about half of them voted for Trump despite what everyone else in Latino-American community knows about Trump's views on immigration.
The fact is that third and fourth generation Latino-Americans don't necessarily identify with illegal aliens sneaking across the border any more than Irish-Americans or Italian-Americans identify with illegal aliens sneaking across the border. What we're seeing is a result of the Democratic Party focusing on minority issues (gay marriage, Black Lives Matter, etc.) that don't necessarily resonate with a blue-collar demographic that should be Democrat.
A man whose whole presidential campaign is based on demonizing American employers who hire foreign workers and deprive Americans of jobs
Uh, this is like saying that Obama's whole campaign was based on lowering the sea level.
Ken,
Yes, this escapes many Dem leaders and pundits. Unlike the EU, our "anti-immigrant" "stronger immigration control" candidate who catches a wave of revulsion at immigration excesses isn't successfully isolated by totally PC Lib compliant parties that normally compete. Over there, they are uniting to stop thier "Trumps" as their Trumps get some electoral power and into the legislature.
Over here the same influence is trying to squash Trump, but our elites dont have the total cooperation of most media like they do over there. So our Trump can keep on pumpin.' His recent message to the EU struck quite a chord, and they are having a reverse of immigration openness start as elites finally recognise that they are screwing up.
"there is some credible evidence that his bank balance may be $250 million, no bigger than what he inherited, his constant paeans to his own wealth and success notwithstanding"
If by "credible", you mean "unsubstantiated hearsay", yes.
Also, his "bank balance" is irrelevant to his wealth. He is sitting on, literally, hundreds of corporate entities. Has he valued those properly? Who the fuck knows.
/no fan of Trump but you will not find a "gotcha" on his wealth since he is essentially a network of opaque closely-held corporate entities.
His taxes would help a lot in ascertaining his wealth, that is why he wont release them and why he sues those who investigate his wealth (forbes reporters) .
Going after Trump for being racist, xenophobic, anti-immigrant, what have you, just isn't going to work with third and fourth generation immigrants whose parents and grand parents have been here all their lives. That narrative is just missing the mark. They're as weary of the race war / class war narrative now as they were of the Iraq War back when Obama first took office.
Our mission should be showing people how integral immigrants and cheap labor are to economic growth.
. . . not trying to convince them that Donald Trump is a hypocritical xenophobe. As evidenced by the results in Nevada, blue collar Latinos don't even care about charges of racism against Latinos--not as much as they care about economic issues that are facing blue collar workers. Convincing Republicans that Donald Trump isn't a good progressive certainly isn't going to defeat him in the Republican primaries--and trying to convince America that Trump isn't a good progressives probably won't defeat him in the general election either.
SO, YOU GUYS (LIBS PERHAPS) WANT THE COUNTRY TO ACCEPT UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, BUT HEAVEN FORBID BUSINESSES ACTUALLY HIRE THEM? GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT.
NO! YOU GET YOUR GODDAMN SHIT STRAIGHT.
HEY, EVERYONE IN HERE, GET YOUR POOP IN A GROUP, CAPISE?!
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF HOW AWESOME I AM.
WHY ARE WE YELLING?
GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT.
MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU.
Totally using that, Swissie.
[scans calendar]
Oh, yeah. There's a couple meetings where this will fit right in.
We just want to bolster the ranks of our welfare programs.
Eh, nobody's trying to get any shit straight anymore. I think they're just desperately trying to paint Trump as a hypocrite.
Maybe if a candidate was making these points in August 2015 instead of writing him off as a joke, it might have meant something. But Trump found themes that resonated deeply (he DOES have experience building popular support, after all) and they're not going to drag Trump's hardcore base of supporters away from him at this point. They can only hope to blunt his rise and try to prevent him from reaching a majority of the delegates, making for an extremely messy convention.
Trump has lots of experience selling overpriced luxury crap and chances to lose money to the house and his mobster partners . He also has experience with business failures and suing anyone who points those failures out . . Trump Vodka, Trump Airlines, trump mortgage, Trump steakhouse, Trump magazine, Trump Steaks, trump towers Tampa, Trump the board game, Trump university. Failures and scams every one. The man has no principles, contradicts himself on everything and reveals next to nothing of his policies , all in short low vocabulary huckster talk, with copious repetitions, insults and interruptions of questioners.
Um, one person wrote the article, not "us guys".
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GORILLA?!?
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I'm stumped by Trump. So my only recourse is to make a concerted effort to get back on drugs. If you want to find me just ask Agile Cyborg.
His staying power has amazed me but I am starting to understand why.
You talking about Trump or AC?
Trump says that he should not have been held responsible given that his contractor hired those workers not him. But a similar defense didn't work for poor Mitt Romney when he tried to justify the undocumented workers tending to his lawn.
Which says nothing about the merits of the defense, of course. Try pointing to all the times you have said that the boss is always responsible, at the end of the day, for everything that his business/agency does.
You are on much firmer ground with his practice of hiring legal immigrants.
I don't see that tactic working any better than attacks on Hillary or George Soros or any rich Democrat for saying that the rich need to pay more taxes. Yes, it's hypocritical that they don't voluntarily pay more to the IRS. No, it doesn't matter to their supporters who want to "tax the rich."
"Merits of the defense"? As somebody who's done construction work most my life, I'm quite familiar with the Mechanic's Lien Law. There's no defense, the law is very clear - you hire a general contractor, it's your responsibility for making sure he's paying the subs. You give the subs' money to the general, that's on you. Even if they are illegal Pollacks you're hiring to illegally tear out the asbestos you're not supposed to be messing with.
A Pollack is a fish which nobody hires for construction work. A Polak is a person of Polish antecedents. Those work construction jobs.
He settled after trying to bankrupt the plaintiffs by dragging the court case out over many years (a frequent Trump tactic) , that says lots about his non-existent defense .
This is just uninteresting. Didn't we already know that Trump is an opportunist who says whatever gets people going? Is anyone surprised in the least that he isn't particularly consistent or principled?
Is Joe Arpaio just the wrong kind of brown?
I mean, if you've ever been to the American Southwest, you know that Arpaio is not an anglo name.
Even worse than that, Arpaio is a Masshole.
Arpaio served in the U.S. Army from 1950 to 1954 in the Medical Detachment Division and was stationed in France for part of the time as a military policeman.
So his four years in the Women's Auxiliary Balloon Corps made him the man he is today.
Even if you haven't been to the southwest...
Anglo family names tend to end in consonants. It used to be a big thing to anglicize names when immigrating to America, most notably for italians who were the first major wave of immigrants to not speak a Germanic language.
Italians are brown now?
Or are "Anglo" and "dirty Mexican" the only options now?
Huh? I wasn't even addressing the whole "brown" thing; it was just a linguistic observation about family names from germanic-speaking areas versus those from areas which speak romance languages.
Whatever, "Tonio."
Arpaio is a fat pompous A@s who likes to hear his own voice.
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I just wish all these "buy American, and no immigrant labor" proponents would have the courage of their convictions. They should live their lives by that creed. They should refuse to eat any food that was imported from another country, or produced here with immigrant labor. The same for their clothes, their cars, their TVs, their phones, and their computers. Then the rest of us can take bets whether they will die from starvation or boredom first, as they sit around their homes, naked, with nothing to eat, and no cars, TV, phones, or computers to occupy their time.