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The GOP Primary Race Demonstrates How Little Republicans Care About Governance

Trump has turned his lack of political experience into a virtue.

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One striking lesson of the 2016 GOP primary race so far is how little governance seems to matter. Indeed, proven experience crafting, passing, and implementing policy increasingly looks like a liability in the Republican race.

Donald Trump, who has never held elected office and seems to regard policy mainly for its expressive value, leads the race by a significant margin. Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon who also has also never held political office before, has fallen to last place in the polls, but is also the only candidate in the race to ever come close to equaling Trump's standing in national polling.

The two most likely candidates to beat Trump, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, are first-term senators with little in the way of legislative achievement. Indeed, Rubio now says his most prominent legislative initiative, the immigration reform plan he co-sponsored as part of the gang of eight, was never even intended to pass. Cruz's most significant act as senator, meanwhile, was an act of anti-governance, when he rallied Republicans around a doomed plan to stop Obamacare by shutting down the government.

All of the GOP governors in the race—Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, Chris Christie, and Jeb Bush—have dropped out save for one, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who has little to no path to the nomination. Kasich's supporters, meanwhile, are running ads that explicitly downplay policy and governing experience in favor of an emotional appeal. The first line spoken in the new ad, "The Hug," put together by a pro-Kasich Super, is, "Being president is more than the economy or health care." The ad centers on a moment in which Kasich hugged an emotionally bereft supporter at a campaign event, and pitches Kasich as someone who could figuratively embrace the nation in the same way—not as an executive, but as a hugger in chief.

Out of all of the GOP candidates, Trump has taken this approach the furthest. He argues that his utter lack of connection to or experience with the political system is what will help him reshape it. In effect, he has made his lack of political experience or policy knowledge into a virtue.

It is often true in elections that governance and legislative records play secondary roles. And Democrats are not exactly celebrating candidates with long records of governing or policy success; neither Bernie Sanders nor Hillary Clinton are particularly known for their major legislative achievements, and the one governor who entered the race, Maryland's Martin O'Malley, barely made a blip. 

But the disregard for governance and legislative effectiveness is most evident on the GOP side of the aisle, and in the campaign of its frontrunner: What Trump's success has made clear is that for many GOP voters, governance is not just a non-factor, it is a liability.

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  1. That debate in the Reagan Library seems like it happened so long ago. I had forgotten that Bush was next to Trump at one point…

  2. *Looks at writer name*

    JOHNBAIT

    1. Suderman: Trump’s hair looks a little wispy and fake.

      John: I don’t know why people keep talking about Trump’s hair in the same language they use when talking about Jeb’s hair or Hillary’s hair. Trump’s hair didn’t win its supporters by being like the hair you can find on any other politician in Washington. His hair’s supporters don’t care that it’s fake and wispy like Sudderman seems to think they should. They’re tired of hair that’s fake but pretends to be real, hair that’s bad but pretends to be good. Trump has bad hair and he knows it and people respond to that.

      Now I’m no Trump supporter, but you have to respect hair that doesn’t play the same bullshit game as the rest of the hair in Washington, but apparently Superman doesn’t care about the message the American people are trying to send. Suppermint just hates that Trump’s hair doesn’t give a shit what the media elite or the Washington insiders think about it, and that it’s had so much success without going through traditional channels.

      I certainly don’t support Trump’s hair’s policies, but you have to admit that his hair is getting a lot of response by saying things that other politicians’ hair is too politically craven to say. And Southernman is either too stupid or too stupid and cowardly to admit that those issues are the ones people care about, not his precious libertarian agenda dreamed up by beltway insider hair… [etc etc six more paragraphs]

        1. Everyone needs fan boys. Suderman has Hugh.

      1. Hugh: “Leave Suderman alone”

        You should do a youtube video.

        1. But you have to admit – that’s pretty damn funny.

          1. Thus the youtube video.

      2. +1 Spoonerman

  3. It seems like only yesterday the one term senator from Illinois who passed a grand total of two bills during his three years in office was practically a political veteran in comparison to the other senator he was running against.

    Good times.

    1. Sure. We could have elected Hillary. She had a lot of “experience” or maybe John Edwards. I would love to hear how that would have worked out any better.

      1. Edwards/Biden?

        That would have been hilarious.

        1. Man, imagine Hillary/Edwards!

          We wouldn’t have enough late night talk shows for all the material that would’ve been available.

          1. *imagines Edwards knocking Abedin up and Hillary’s resulting globe shaking tantrum.*

            1. “YOU SLEPT WITH HIM IN THE ROOSEVELT ROOM???!!???? WHAT ABOUT YOUR HUS-oh….well, WHAT ABOUT ME???!!??”

        2. It would have been that. I will give Edwards credit, he was a sleezy lawyer but he was a wildly successful one. Edwards accomplished a hell of a lot more in life than Obama ever did.

  4. Forget Trump for a moment. How on earth could anyone who doesn’t have their head up their ass think that given the current state of affairs that “experience in government” is some of an asset? The entire government is run by delusional, dishonest morons. There may be lots of reasons to hate Trump, but the fact that he has no experience as part of the worst political and media class in American history is not one of them.

    I would love to know how Sudderman thinks anything is ever going to change if “experience in government” continues to be a requirement for high office. If your goal is to change the system, perhaps refusing to elect anyone except people who are a part of that system is not such a good idea?*

    *Yes I know Trump is really an insider and yadda yada yadda. That is not my point. Suderman acts like he is not an insider and thinks it is a bad thing.

      1. *throws down cash and walks away mumbling*

        “Damn game’s rigged…”

        1. AND THAT’S WHY YOU NEED ME NOW MORE THAN EVER! THE GAME’S RIGGED BY WASHINGTON ELITES – AND I, THE DONALD, AM NOT A WASHINGTON INSIDER. I’LL GET THE BEST NEGOTIATORS IN AND THEY’LL FIX THESE RIGGED GAMES!

          LET’S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! FIX THE RIGGED GAMES! ONLY ONE PERSON CAN DO IT – ME. THE DONALD.

          /Trump voice off

    1. Yahtzee!

      I um…don’t actually know what game we’re playing.

      1. What do you mean?

        1. 2nd comment.

    2. The entire government is run by delusional, dishonest morons.

      I’m not so sure.

      The entire government has become Leviathan, and those that become part of it (whether elected, appointed, or hired) do so out of self-interest. The first rule of self-interest is self-preservation and all we are seeing is the elected, appointed, and hired portions work with each other to grow Leviathan and ensure self-preservation. These people are very intelligent at using the system to enrich themselves.

      …the fact that he has no experience as part of the worst political and media class in American history is not one of them.

      I believe this is exactly accurate and well-stated by you on an earlier thread. This observation scares the shit out of clowns like Suderman – I think because all of a sudden the masses are rearing their (to Suderman) ugly heads. He fancies himself of the senatorial class in Rome and the Plebs are revolting to him and to all others that like to think of themselves as “elites” – especially if they paid a shitload of money for a fancy BA, MA.

      1. They certainly have a feral intelligence for self enrichment. No question about that. But they believe insane and stupid things.

        1. It’s worse than that. Most of them don’t actually believe the things they say.

          1. That would make me feel better. I think they actually believe that shit. And that is terrifying. I honestly think they mean well. I wish they were lying opportunists.

            1. Just think of Hillary v Bern. The Bern seems to be a true believer. Hillary will say anything to get more power. That is the difference. And I think above a certain level, say city council, the majority of politicians are more like Hillary than Bern. Otherwise they wouldn’t make it that far.

          2. I think whether or not thats worse is debatable. Who would do more damage an honest socialist, or someone pretending to be one to get elected?

            1. Let me put it another way. A parasite should at least have enough brains to know not to kill it’s host, while an honest socialist does not.

              1. A parasite steals its host’s energy to live. It may be destructive, but it, like any other living thing, is striving to survive. A socialist steals its host’s energy because the idea that someone could gain more energy than the socialist by their own merits makes the socialist angry. Socialism has much more to do with hating the successful than helping the unsuccessful. Witness the left turning on Bono en mass when he woke up and realized that the way to help Africa was to free the markets not dump free stuff on the poor.

            2. Oh, I just meant “worse” in an intellectual sense. You’re certainly right that the outcome for us is equally bad.

      2. I can’t say they are all delusional morons, there are guys like Amash, Paul, Gowdy and Pompeo for example. And whilst they are far from perfect they are most definitely light years better than their co-leaders.

        I realize they are in a very small minority, but there are a handful who aren’t complete teat-sucking scumbags with zero principles beyond getting elected.

      3. The entire government has become Leviathan, and those that become part of it (whether elected, appointed, or hired) do so out of self-interest. The first rule of self-interest is self-preservation and all we are seeing is the elected, appointed, and hired portions work with each other to grow Leviathan and ensure self-preservation. These people are very intelligent at using the system to enrich themselves.

        That’s where the delusional and dishonest comes from.

        Its what allows DEA agents to get up in the morning and go to work. Its what lets the CBP agent man the Arivaca checkpoint. Its what allows the sheriff’s deputy to rob drivers on I-40. The Dept of Ed ‘cop’ in their SWAT team, the FDA, DoA, on and on and on – all these people do what they do because they delude themselves. One that what their agency does is for the greater good and two, that *they* aren’t one of the bad ones.

        1. I mean, this sort of thing is how you get government agencies constantly expanding welfare programs – they tell themselves its for the benefit of the recipients but it also, conveniently expands the power, scope, and prestige of their agency with benefits for those inside.

  5. Still deciding between Rubio and Cruz.

    Trump only gets my vote if he can win the primary with out it.

    1. Trump only gets my vote if he can win the primary with out it.

      Huh?

  6. Actual attempts to do anything have been vilified over the last 8 years by both sides. This is just a race to see who can bleed the system some more before it collapses.

    1. “Actual attempts to do anything have been vilified over the last 8 years by both sides. This is just a race to see who can bleed the system some more before it collapses.”

      Don’t you mean 90 years?

  7. the disregard for governance and legislative effectiveness is most evident on the GOP side of the aisle

    Really? Hillary and Bernie’s records are better? What legislative effectiveness can they point to? What successes in governing? Especially from a libertarian point of view? Oh, it’s Suderman.

    1. Yeah. how exactly is voting for Bernie, a guy who called himself an Independent and did nothing in the Senate but yell at office doors about the evils of the corporations, showing a high regard for governance. Did Suderman type that sentence with a straight face?

    2. Yeah no kidding. Trump’s record in politics is better simply because he doesn’t have one. Hillary on the other hand has a long record but it’s total shit.

  8. *shrug*
    How many experienced champions of small government are there? Once they get their fingers in the pie, shrinking the pie isn’t very appealing any more. I don’t see how we’re really supposed to lament that the current inexperienced statists are worse than the good old statists we all know and love.

  9. Indeed, proven experience crafting, passing, and implementing policy increasingly looks like a liability in the Republican race.

    Given the performance of the “experienced”, “seasoned”, “veteran” lawmakers on this front, why on earth shouldn’t it be a liability?

    The only more or less lifetime politician who might not be disqualified by his actual performance as such would have been Walker. He didn’t catch on, for whatever reason, but c’mon, Reason parrotting the GOP establishment party line? Because they’ve been such stalwart libertarians?

    Give me a break.

    1. Amen, R C Dean.

  10. This is a big “so what”?

    Is there a correlation between time in government and good president?

    1. Yes, but it is inverse.

  11. “”… Democrats are not exactly celebrating candidates with long records of governing or policy success; neither Bernie Sanders nor Hillary Clinton are particularly known for their major legislative achievements, and the one governor who entered the race, Maryland’s Martin O’Malley, barely made a blip.

    But the disregard for governance and legislative effectiveness is most evident on the GOP side of the aisle”

    I’m not sure what the real argument here is.

    “In a choice between incompetent government action, or contempt for government action – Choose Incompetence!”?

    That’s the sort of half-assed thinking that gave us the ACA.

    1. Peter just doesn’t want America electing any government hating nihilists Gilmore. Is that so wrong?

      1. If my government isn’t hating nihilists, it’s doing something wrong! Down with filthy Neutrals!

  12. If anyone does care about experience in governing, there’s former New Mexico Governor, Gary Johnson, running for the Libertarian nomination again. Two terms, then term limited, reduced government’s size and spending, vetoed a ton of bills, and more practical experience as a chief executive than the likely D & R nominees combined. (As was true in the 2012 race as well.)

    But if you prefer to vote for the lesser of two evils/lunatics/narcissists/criminals (pick any or all), *sigh* go right ahead.

    1. Sure. But if Johnson were a CEO and had never been in government, would you still support him? I would hope you would support him more not less.

      1. Johnson was advised to run for state legislature before governor but he jumped the gun too. Not sure in New Mexico even exists anymore.

    2. If Clinton and Trump win their noms, and Johnson manages to get the Libertarian nom and into a main debate, he will have the strongest showing since Perot. Those are a lot of big ifs I know. I have such little faith left in Americans after this primary season that I have no false illusions of him winning the whole thing, though.

      1. “, and Johnson manages to get the Libertarian nom and into a main debate”

        That doesn’t seem very likely. Ben Carson’s national polling numbers are higher.

      2. I think debate or no debate, Johnson has the LP’s best performance to date if Trump is nominated and Bloomberg stays out. Unfortunately, I think “best to date” means 1.3, 1.4 percent instead of 0.99 percent.

  13. Alternate phrasing: The most popular candidates are the ones who haven’t already proven themselves to be lying, incompetent, power hungry sacks of shit.

    Just a thought.

    1. …Trump?

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  15. Out of all of the GOP candidates, Trump has taken this approach the furthest. He argues that his utter lack of connection to or experience with the political system is what will help him reshape it. In effect, he has made his lack of political experience or policy knowledge into a virtue.

    This statement by itself is not an indictment of that quality.

    1. No kidding. Jonathan Gruber has all kinds of experience and policy knowledge. Peter’s wife Megan McArdle has often talked about how Gruber is a really smart and well meaning guy. Yet, putting Grube in charge of health care policy didn’t work out so well did it?

      Alan Greenspan is absolutely one of the kind of top men serious people Suderman seems to like. How did putting him in charge of monetary policy work out?

      Peter just can’t accept that the technocratic class has completely failed and is destroying the country.

      1. It’s understandable to want someone with governing experience when you’re putting them in charge of a nation of 320,000,000 people. But you see that right there is the problem, the president ISN’T SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE of 320,000,000 people, and perhaps if we had more neophytes plucked from the masses, we’d be more respectful of that fact.

        1. I think it was Orwell who said some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them. Suderman and a whole lot of other people in his class seem to be intent on living that idea.

        2. Unfortunately, it needs to be the right kind of neophyte. Say they picked the President out of the phone book and my brother won. He’s a good guy and would try to do well, but I have no doubt that leviathan would have extreme influence on his policy. All it takes is some guy showing you pictures of destitute families or a probable terrorist training camp and the next thing you know he’s reinstating the New Deal programs or launching another war in the Middle East.

          1. Bernie Sanders is probably a good guy trying to do well. I actually believe his mammoth incompetence would leave him relegated to back room and no one would let him out when company was over.

            Given the awful list of choices we have currently leading in this presidential race, I would choose Sanders over Trump or Hillary in a kind of game of chicken gambit.

      2. Didn’t she also say Gruber was, like, the toughest guy in their chess club too?

        1. By ‘toughest’ did she mean most capable at fisticuffs or difficult to beat in chess?

  16. Rand Paul is a one term senator who has done about as much as Cruz and Rubio but if he still had a chance at the presidency, Reason would be praising him to the rafters.

    No love for Rubio or Cruz but Reason writers absolutely don’t care about amount of time in the senate. It’s dishonest to pretend this is about experience when you just disagree with their politics.

    1. Exactly. Say what you will about American voters (Hell, I’ll say what I will about American voters) but I seem to detect strong grass root support for outsider candidates. That it’s Trump in the GOP says a lot about celebrity and personality, but the underlying desire to get an outsider as our President as opposed to an entrenched technocrat isn’t by itself a negative feature.

    2. It is so transparently dishonest. Forget Paul. imagine if there were some tech billionaire who was a no shit Libertarian and were pulling votes like Trump. Does anyone believe Reason would publish an article like this about him? That suddenly Suderman would stop and say “but this tech guy has no experience”?

      Yeah. I am sure. It is just pathetic.

  17. We haven’t had governance in a long time. Hire many years did we go without a budget because of Reid?

    1. Funny how we could go that many years without a budget and yet leviathan’s regulatory reach and power didn’t shrink one iota. That right there tells you just how much autonomous momentum this government has.

      1. And that is it in a nutshell. The government is a vast and self perpetuating entity that is not going to shrink without a significant political revolt. A revolt that is not going to happen because the voting populace appears to be functionally retarded and only interested in what everyone else can be forced to do for them.

        Trump is just an expression of that retardation but otherwise no worse or better than his competitors.

    2. Funny too, how Reid’s nonsense wasn’t a “stupid tactic that backfired on the Democrats” yet the government shutdown was “silly showmanship that blew up in the Republicans’ faces.”

  18. sorry Sudes, people ain’t eating the dogfood anymore. and you are a terrible terrible human being.

  19. Experience is consistently overrated, vs. potential. Potential is riskier- but potential rewards are greater.

  20. The chickens have come home to roost in the GOP.

    For a few decades now it has been right wing media that has driven the GOP and their public pronouncements. And Trump is simply the “illogical” conclusion.

    From the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, Malkin and so many more you get stridency, bombast, accusations, and fear mongering. And above all showmanship along with saying anything that maintains ratings.

    And the establishment genuflected at that altar. They should have heeded the warning that Tea Party popularity seemed to show.
    And they’re surprised Trump is popular? What’s surprising is that it’s taken so long.

    They deserve it.

    1. I’m not sure this is entirely incorrect. For the same decades the Democrats have had national socialists and other various anti-capitalists and totalitarians nipping at the heels of the party. The logical conclusion is Sanders, ultimately endorsing Hillary after the primary.

      Funny that.

    2. Joe why are so angry? It is because you are short? Is that why?

      People don’t like you because you are an asshole. Being short has nothing to do with it. So buck up.

    3. Hey Joe, remember how you loved Hugo Chavez? Was that because supporting a big strongman in a military uniform made you forget you’re 5′ 3″?

      1. Dammit, Irish, Venezuela would be a worker’s paradise right now if it weren’t for those damned meddling capitalist pig-dog bloodsuckers, and you know it!

        1. Everything was fine when Comrade Chavez lived. Things only went bad when the CIA cancer killed him. Maduro is a good man but a mere man can only do so much against the might of USA. Or he’s a CIA plant. For sure one of the two.

        2. That and the lack of toilet paper.

    4. You could say the exact same thing about the incoherent nonsense Sanders and Clinton spew.

      1. Actually I couldn’t. Neither were “creations” of media, which the popularity of Trump is. You might disagree with both, but both have policy proscriptions, and both have experience in governance.

        Not even close to being the same as Trump.

        1. “stridency, bombast, accusations, and fear mongering.”

          That sounds exactly like Bernie.

  21. “That government is best which governs least”

    Maybe Republicans are just taking Thoreau seriously… in a peculiar way.

      1. As long as he’s an old dead white guy.

  22. *strolls into comments to join queue of people waiting to kick Suderman in the balls*

    Huh. Damn. This line’s longer than I thought.

  23. One striking lesson of the 2016 GOP primary race so far is how little governance seems to matter. Indeed, proven experience crafting, passing, and implementing policy increasingly looks like a liability in the Republican race.

    wat?

    Have you been paying attention to the Democratic race?

    Or the 2012 elections?

    Or the 2008 elections?

    or the 2004 elections?

    How about the elections in 2000?

    And ’96 . . .

    Look – *no one* who comes out with even moderately detailed policy plans before getting into office has a chance in hell of getting elected. They end up being called ‘kooks’ at best.

    Because everything has trade-offs and as soon as concrete policy proposals are available those people who might feel the sting band together to scream their heads off about how ‘unfair’ it all is. Politics is about pretending that nothing you want to do has a downside, ever. That its not only possible to achieve your stated objectives but that there will be no losers and no ‘unforseen consequences’ from changing the incentive structure.

    1. This. The people don’t want to think. They want to be reassured.

    2. Or there is the Obama method. Pass laws, and then campaign against the very effects created by your laws so no one ever blames you for it.

  24. For all the time Bernie has been in office, I don’t think he’s had a single bill he’s proposed passed into law.

  25. This “but he has no experience!” meme should be mercilessly and ruthlessly mocked until it dies of shame.

    No experience in bringing the national debt to unprecedented levels? No experience in messing with people’s health insurance? No experience in keeping possibly helpful medicines out of the hands of mortally ill people? etc., etc., etc.

    Put a stake through the “no experience” meme, bury it in a crossroads with a stake through its heart, and make sure it earns so little money that nobody will dare bring it back for a sequel.

    “No experience,” indeed.

    1. its funny how they mocked R’s when they trotted out the idea that a two term senator might not have sufficient experience to be president.

      Its funny how they mocked R’s when they trotted out a state governor and city mayor – both executive branch positions – as not having sufficient experience to be president.

  26. Cruz’s most significant act as senator, meanwhile, was an act of anti-governance, when he rallied Republicans around a doomed plan to stop Obamacare by shutting down the government.

    Did you let your wife ghost write this post, Peter?

    1. I don’t even think he wife would write something that stupid.

    2. Careful, P Brooks, or he’ll tell Megan and she’ll come beat you up.

  27. No, really – i don’t get it.

    It sounds to me like the joke about the jewish ladies in the catskills resort, only replaced with “D.C. Libertarians”.

    Libertarian #1 = “UGH! Look at the range of civil-liberty-erosion, endless expansion of authority, and mammoth waste that our government engages in on a daily basis!”

    Libertarian #2 = “Tell me about it! *And so poorly run*!

    as though what Leviathan needs is ‘better managers’

    1. That is awesome.

    2. You could have said “and such small portions” and the joke would have still worked.

      1. EVERYONES A CRITIC

        and really, would it? no one thinks of Government coming in small portions. Or at least I dream of the IRS being reduced to a tip-jar.

        1. and really, would it? no one thinks of Government coming in small portions. Or at least I dream of the IRS being reduced to a tip-jar.

          It was more of a tangent-joke about voters complaining about all of the above, but demanding more of it at election time.

        2. “there’s too much money in politics… MAKE IT MORE LUCRATIVE!”

  28. . . . proven experience crafting, passing, and implementing policy increasingly looks like a liability in the Republican race.

    Hey, I remember this thing. What was it called? Oh yeah, PPACA. You know, that thing some completely inexperienced politician said we had to pass to find out what was in it.

    That thing that required semantic trickery to ‘deem’ it passed when it looked like it would fail in a straight up vote?

    The one that even after it was ‘carefully crafted’ no one is sure quite how to accomplish its requirements and this administration has said, with a straight face, that they need the courts to give them the freedom to ‘wing it’ to make it happen?

    That proven experience crafting, passing, and implementing policy?

    You know Suderman, I don’t always agree with you but, unlike other posters here I generally found your reasoning solid. But to actually come out and say that the R’s suddenly don’t care about careful policy crafting is . . . I don’t know.

    The R’s have *never* cared about that. They care about getting elected. Same thing as the Democrats. NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE AT ALL BETWEEN THE EXPERIENCE AND INEXPERIENCED IN GOVERNMENT.

    1. I don’t always agree with you but, unlike other posters here I generally found your reasoning solid.

      You don’t always agree with a Suderman, but when you do, you prefer Peter?

  29. Trump is indicative of what 33% of registered Republican primary voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina think about governance.

    33% support indicates what 67% of registered Republicans in those states think about Trump.

    1. Except that Trump’s lead has grown since Jeb dropped out.

      http://www.rasmussenreports.co…..f_the_race

      What you are saying just isn’t what is going on Ken.

  30. Suderman, not governing your way != not interested in governance.

    1. He’s just another Professional Concern Troll in the Beltway who loves the status quo and is voting for Hillary.

  31. proven experience crafting, passing, and implementing policy

    Do-Somethingism, FTW!

  32. Sure, that’s how the little Republicans feel, but what about the big ones?

  33. And for some reason this primary has given Mr Suderman cause to think that is the case? What about the last 30+ years since Ronald Reagan, no lets go back to Goldwater, for that matter. The Republican trope is that government is the problem and so therefore, why govern. In fact, being poor at the job is a way to say, government is inept. The art of governance for the Republican party amounts to tossing some bones to the base: austerity for some, obstruction for all, deregulation for the business class and, if something must be done, toss a block grant to the states (otherwise known as outsourcing governance). And then those same elected US representatives can then busy themselves with their true concern of bankrupting the country while lining their and their sponsors pockets. I cannot say that the democrats, libertarians, socialists or whomever will be any better but, they at least want to govern. Sorry, the art of governance is a requirement for any society.

    1. If you have a reason for thinking, why do you seem so poor at doing it?

    2. ^ Hey guys, look, I found a walking, talking, anti-intellectual Democrat stereotype!

      “The Republican trope is that government is the problem and so therefore, why govern.”

      ” I cannot say that the democrats, libertarians, socialists or whomever will be any better but, they at least want to govern”

      LOL. The Republican trope that government is the problem is what you think makes the Republicans suck but for some reason the libertarians (who are even more convinced government is the problem) will be okay? You don’t seem to have a very firm grasp of what you’re talking about.

      And how exactly is a block grant to the state outsourcing governance when the state government (many of which are run by Republicans!) will be handling the issue? What a block grant is is an example of federalism, which, in a society as large as the US, makes a great deal of sense since it’s ridiculous for a federal government to try micromanaging a nation that large.

    3. You forgot something about “Roads” and a mention of the social-contract.

      otherwise, i score it 3-out-of-5 on the progtard-parody scale.

    4. Social Security. Medicare. Medicaid. If that is your idea of governance that ISN’T bankrupting the country, then does Bernie Madoff have a deal for you!

    5. And your trope is that only “Top Men” in Washington are wise and smart enough to be able to make all the big important decisions on behalf on everyone.

      Unfortunately for you and your ilk though, you’ve been doing an absolutely horrendous job lately, and more and more people know it.

    6. There you go, R4T, listen to those who responded to you.

      Libertarians, like Republicans, also have no use for governance. You were correct…you should have included readership at Reason.

      Although I admit, they’re all on Team Red anyway.

  34. Yes, the Republicans look terrible because they stand in such stark contrast to Bernie and Hillary whose careers have demonstrated they are proven crafters of lasting and efficacious legislation.

    Okay…

    1. I think Suderman only writes these to serve as fodder for giggle fits after he and the Jacket smoke a few bowls.

      1. You can’t just walk into those cocktail parties. They require an invitation.

  35. Two words: citizen representatives.

    Republicans by and large do not wish to have the government run by a professional ruling class.

  36. According to public school indoctrination camps the role of the government is to make itself bigger with more taxes and regulations.

    From the time of Woodrow Wilson and Oliver Wendell Holmes on, the role of the government is to smash individual liberty so that a once free citizen is beholden to the centralized socialist state.

    Speech is free unless it’s hate
    You’re free to choose to buy some Obamacare or pay a tax.

  37. Indeed, proven experience crafting, passing, and implementing policy increasingly looks like a liability in the Republican race.

    Yeah! Like that Eisenhower guy who never held an elected position in his life! What were voters thinking? Or that George Washington dude! No legislative experience!

    The only people we should be electing are people who’ve spent years marinating in party politics and selling their souls to their party machines! Right on!

  38. Given the current preezy’s “… lack of political experience or policy knowledge…” the dhimmicrats and the vast majority of the media certainly did not consider governance to be a defining characteristic needed to be elected to the office of President.

  39. Peter Suderman like governance and thinks that passing more laws is a good measurement of political achievement and thinks “shutting down” government is a bad thing. So tell me again, why is this guy still being published a “Libertarian’ magazine?

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