Cal State Says Free Speech Means Conservative Event Must Be Balanced with Liberal Speaker
Delaying Ben Shapiro's talk is a brazen act of censorship.

Not to be outdone by Williams College—a private institution that recently prohibited students from bringing a controversial conservative to campus—California State University in Los Angeles has taken the brazen step of forbidding its students from hosting conservative journalist Ben Shapiro.
Shapiro was invited by the campus's Young Americans for Freedom chapter, but Cal State administrators have delayed his appearance—so they can find a liberal speaker to debate him, they claim.
CSULA President William Covino justified the decision on the grounds that he was actually honoring the university's "dedication to the free exchange of ideas":
After careful consideration, I have decided that it will be best for our campus community if we reschedule Ben Shapiro's appearance for a later date, so that we can arrange for him to appear as part of a group of speakers with differing viewpoints on diversity. Such an event will better represent our university's dedication to the free exchange of ideas and the value of considering multiple viewpoints."
This is pure Doublespeak. The free exchange of ideas on campus is best served when people are, um, free to exchange ideas. Students should feel welcome to invite additional speakers if they wish, but must be free of institutional pressure to share the platform they are providing.
Covino's suggestion that a conservative speaker must be balanced by a liberal speaker is also stunningly hypocritical. As The Daily Caller's Blake Neff points out, on Wednesday—one day before the planned Shapiro event—CSULA will have an event featuring Angela Davis and Tim Wise. Davis is a far-left feminist and member of the Communist Party. Wise is best described as anti-racism activist who thinks all white people are, to varying degrees, racist. The subject of their lecture is "the U.S.'s uncritical embrace of individualism, myth of meritocracy, unchallenged white supremacy, and entrenched institutional inequity in our society." I can't imagine there will be much diversity of thought at this event. Does this not violate Corvino's supposed dedication to "multiple viewpoints"?
Shapiro has vowed to go to campus anyway. In a piece for Breitbart—where he is a senior editor—he described CSULA administrators as "fascists" and "jackbooted thugs." I disagree with Shapiro on plenty of things, but in this case, the hyperbole seems well-deserved.
It's enough to make college students root for anti-PC warrior Donald Trump.
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In before, "Robby's a signaling cosmo for saying he disagrees with Shapiro, blah blah blah, whine wine whine." Seriously, it's getting old.
You can't let them get to you Robby, otherwise everyone will call you a racist for like 3 weeks.
To be fair, that is Irish saying it.
But Robby, how else will people signal that they *aren't* cosmos? You're not the only one that needs invitations to parties.
I approve of this signaling that signalling isn't approved of.
It's signaling all the way down.
whine wine whine
Is that complaining while drinking a glass?
I don't know who Ben Shapiro is but I'm sure I disagree with him. I mean .... why not? In the infinite universe of ideas, the odds are infinitesimal that we would agree.
Hair of the dog, Robby! Hair of the dog!
I want him to talk so I can show up and have Shapiro sign my copy of Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism Is Corrupting Our Future.
Well, I certainly did not see you say you disagreed with the communist and the anti-racist racist. /overlydramaticvoice
Robby might disagreewith Angela Davis but he has far too much social intelligence than to signal such.
I think Trump-mania is starting to get to us all. The comments section has been especially... caustic today.
Make H&R great again!
WHERE MY H&R GONE
Long time passing. Where has all my h&r gone, long time ago. Where are my h&r gone, gone to racists, everyone. When will they ever learn. When will they ever learn.
+1
FWIW, I think some of you may be good people.
Trump HaiR FTW
Your face is caustic.
Crusty is so loooooow energy.
Sad. What a loser!
It should be a hate crime to make fun of another man's low-t.
Trump makes H & R classy.
UNDANK MEME DETECTED
Seriously, this.
Also, why the hell is YouTube recommending Anna Akana videos to me? Ugh.
There could be several reasons.
Maybe YouTube Red and RedTube actually are related...
Woah.
That explains a lot actually....
Is it weird that I now have a frog fetish?
No...it's all according to plan.
Dammit, HM.
*sighs, clicks "Forget" button in browser toolbar... again*
Same reason Reason recommends Sammy Dress to me. Because I love da ass.
That phrase has grown beyond a meme and into the common internet parlance. Of course you knew that and were just looking for an excuse to link to a video, presumably of women shaking their butts.
I was referring to the Irish meme, actually.
If you'd bother to read the links, you'd have realized it was a link to young Leonardo DiCaprio in one of his finest on-screen moments.
Your face is an undank meme.
Waah.
I would like to see at least forty-three links, as well as three paragraph summaries explaining your disagreements with each link, otherwise I am just going to assume you not only watch Girls, you enjoy Girls.
*supporting* links. Sometimes even the coolest commenters make mistakes.
And you do, too.
Is it wrong that I watch Girls just to enjoy Adam Driver being a butthole?
That's why you never ever every read the comments, Robby. I certainly never do.
'but in this case, the hyperbole seems well-deserved.'
How about, IS well deserved, get off the fence.
Now you've done it, now there's blood in the water.
*pops bag of popcorn*
Then maybe don't put the disclaimer?
I mean, seriously, just because you mention someone in an article doesn't mean you endorse their viewpoints, so constantly putting them makes you look like you are just trying to curry favor with the cocktail party crowd...
Robby has explained multiple times that he sells these articles to multiple outlets, not just reason. He doesn't want to have to change them for each outlet, so they are not as tailored to "reason sensibilities" (as if there is such a thing) as they might be if they were only for reason.
Remember that you get these for free.
Remember that you get these for free.
Oh there's a cost...
I am still subscribed to the print version of this periodical.
If the product is free, the product is me.
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Thanks Epi, I didn't know that. I've learned something new today, I can bask in ignorance for the rest of the day.
Remember that you get these for free.
You also get the comments from Robbie's critics for free, so you can't criticize those either, right?
So he self-censors, in a way to capitulate to powers that be?
Well that makes it OK then. Deftly played.
This can't be Robby's real handle.
He knows better.
You people have a way of getting to a guy. Weigel didn't go apeshit in a vacuum.
I had no part in that. I wish I did. I could have even given him some free dermatology advice.
Apeshit in a vacuum? Didn't the Soviets try something like that in the last century?
Spoiler Alert: It turns into ape farts. PV=nRT, after all.
Explosive farts. It's science.
Is this the real Robby Soave?
I don't think so. He wouldn't do such a thing. Unless he missed what Irish caused.
Was it Fist's comment about phoning in the links from your Aztec that put you on full tilt? 'Cause man, I thought he nailed you with that one.
I keed, I keed. Buck up, man. I think you got a long way to go before the commentariat start treating you like Sheldon Richman and just start ignoring the articles altogether.
I've been trying to nail down his ride. At first I had it pegged as a veedub, but then I was thinking Prius. Today I tossed the Aztec at the wall to see if it would stick. Hell, maybe he takes public transpo. He's that ironic.
Dude. He obviously drives a Nissan Cube.
GAY
Goddammit, Robby. If I'd read this before my comment it would've been way more of a troll instead of in 100% agreement.
I fucked up.
You'd only call a conservative controversial!!!11!!
😉
Don't let the faggot cookies win.
The problem isn't so much this--
As it is this--
Because what you're 'signaling' is that, in some cases, the fascistic censorship might be warranted.
This seems like an attempt to ban him without having to say they are banning him. They are probably hoping he just won't show up.
Seems? Is. They'll never get that panel together. I'm sure all the people they ask to be on it will refuse, most likely because Shapiro is using "hate speech" or something. And they know this.
But Shapiro's one of the Chosen! Wasn't there something in the '40s that happened to the Chosen that one would think intersectional (spellcheck STILL hates that word) progressives would be afraid to touch? How do you "out-victim" that one thing that happened in the '40s?
Easy, The Chosen are now a Designated Oppressor because of that thing that happened in 60s (or was it 40s? 80s? 2000s?), so you can fuck with them as convenient. Thing that happened in 40s (not that one, the first one) is handy if you need to beat someone over the head with it, but it doesn't change the fact that they are no different from You Know Who Else when necessary.
Just ask Sheldon.
I like that he's showing up anyway. What are they going to do if a speaker just says 'fuck you' and refuses to let them keep him off campus - especially at a state school like Cal? What are they going to do, have their own cops drag students away for attending a speech?
I think right-wingers and libertarians need to engage in some civil disobedience. Get some nice pictures of clean cut 19 year old Republicans getting dragged away by cops and maybe the university will back down.
Oh that won't make the left back down -- that's exactly what they think should happen.
Colleges have cops, so--they can empty a can of pepper spray in his face and then beat him unconscious.
Get some nice pictures of clean cut 19 year old Republicans getting dragged away by cops
...for the mainstream media to completely ignore.
I'll be in my bunk.
I didn't know you were a bow-tie man like Nikki.
She got that fetish at a strip club. It has nothing to do with republicans.
Tucker Carlson started as a stripper? I would have never guessed.
Chippendales are all Carlson impersonators.
Carlson? More like Matt Smith.
Tucker as a stripper? May be as group treatment for a Sexaholics Anonymous meeting.
sexaholics unanimous?
Not all Republicans, but these are all the "hot" presidents when they were younger. My, uh, *top* choice is Reagan.
I laughed at "Rutherford B. Heeeeeyyyyy!"
I'm sort of disgusted with myself but Teddy Roosevelt....
Careful, his bad asthma means you'd be doing all the work, if you catch my drift.
*winks copiously at Krabappel*
Oh come on, politics aside, I'm sure Roosevelt would be a hoot to hang out with. And he struck me as a guy who could be counted on to leave politics at home when it's time to hunt, drink, fight or just bullshit.
Can we all agree that young FDR looks like a tool, though? Very punchable face.
Libertarians agreeing? What is this, Somalia?
Apparently that is actually FDR's son?
Because would. With extreme prejudice. Raawr.
Hayes - dayum
Christ. First Williams College makes me defend John Derbyshire, and now this asshole's making me defend Ben Shapiro. I swear. If the next article about censorship makes me defend RooshV I'm going to be pissed.
Haven't they already put up an article, like last week or the week before, doing exactly that? Regarding him speaking internationally? Or do I have my PUA douchebags mixed up?
Haven't they already put up an article, like last week or the week before, doing exactly that?
Yep.
Dammit. That was while I was on vacation, so I choose to ignore it.
You are forgetting your Voltaire, sirrah. "Something I don't like you sweetie, but speak your mind," or whatever.
This IS a government institution. Aren't they wide open for a first amendment smackdown?
It's an open and shut 1st amendment case. Which means they spend a bunch of student and taxpayer money, lose, and then whine about it while asking for donations.
They will get Peyton Manning to rub his rectum and testicles on the man's face if he shows up (AKA Omaha).
So that's what that means!
It's Cal State LA. It's where the democrats do a great job of serving the community.
This would fall under Trope Five
"Davis is a far-left feminist and member of the Communist Party. Wise is best described as anti-racism activist who thinks all white people are, to varying degrees, racist."
See, both sides! A Commie and a pinko.
It's like the old Texas joke about their 2 favorite sports: Football and spring football.
Tim Wise is to racism activists as Hugo Schwyzer is to feminism.
Yeah, but wasn't Schwyzer basically putting on airs to get his dick wet? I'm not familiar with this Wise guy (ha!), but is he a true believer?
Well, from Wikipedia:
Score one for PA!
Sorry: That point correctly goes to Irish. If he'd like to share, I'll leave it up to him.
Judge inches toward subpoenas in Clinton email server case
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Best part of the article
And two paragraphs down
I've actually managed to find video of Steven Myers
One of the emails explicitly makes it clear that it's to thwart FOIA. Clinton refuses a State department phone with her server goes down.
*when
Hillary for Prison 2016.
You mean a Fairness Doctrine for speeches? Of course. And you can be sure the people who promote such a thing have the same nice motives.
And you know they are also insisting that when a progressive speaks at an event that it is balanced by a conservative speaker, of course. Right?
Angela Davis spoke at my school a couple years back, and I recall a bunch of people on the event page on Facebook getting into it with the Campus Republicans, who criticized the decision to invite her (although they did not, from what I recall, demand it be cancelled or anything like that). At the time, I only had a very vague knowledge of who she was, so I looked her up. The woman was unapologetically praiseful for decades of totalitarian dictatorships like the USSR, Cuba, and East Germany, and spent a lot of time in these countries, meeting with their leaders, and whitewashing their atrocities. That's not even getting into anything she did or may have done. She's apparently a no-brainer to allow on campus, but anyone right of center is too dangerous and evil?
She'd be a no-brainer for any professorship too, but proggies are hypocrites, news at 11!1!1ty.
The woman was unapologetically praiseful for decades of totalitarian dictatorships like the USSR, Cuba, and East Germany, and spent a lot of time in these countries, meeting with their leaders, and whitewashing their atrocities.
Is AmSoc her? Hmmm...
Spike Lee quoted her approvingly in an earlier link today, and I had to look her up too. Something about how he has to re-program his kids after a day of being filled with white-devil lies at one of NYC's finest private educational institutions, and now his kids are like all Angela Davis "truth to power!" and isn't that so cute.
*plotz*
and whitewashing their atrocities
You're worse than Irish.
Thomas Sowell was a black Marxist at one point too, around the time of Angela Davis.
Then he educated himself and saw the forest for the trees. "His experience working as a federal government intern during the summer of 1960 caused him to reject Marxian economics in favor of free market economic theory."
What's her excuse?
Huh, I did not know that.
I believe this was after his first year at the University of Chicago. "I came in a Marxist. After Milton's Friedman's course. I was still a Marxist. " He interned for the Dept. Of Labor, studying minimum wage laws. He found that everyone at the Dept. of Labor were self interested actors looking out for their own interests - their power and security. Bureaucracies act in the interest of Bureaucracies.
Thomas Sowell - From Marxism to Capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiYH66HznW0
Frankly, I'd say that makes her worse than Roosh V. Why don't countries try to ban her from entering?
Shameless.
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Well, I see you there with a rose in your teeth, one more thin gypsy thief. Well, I see Jane's away; she sends her regards.
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Guess what being opposed to the idea that all white folks are racist is. Six letters, begins with an R.
Rabbit? Rocket?
Robbie?
+1
No no --
Riiico!
It was actually Ricola. Those things are better than candy. Good guesses though.
Ritler?
Ruh-roh...
You owe me one embarrassing outburst of laughter at an inappropriate time. You just never see it coming.
Watching TotalBiscuit's channel taught me that you can never expect the Secret Ritler.
Another day, another campus censorship story...
Conservative students perambulating the halls of a humming leftist facility churning out streams of progressive ambrosia are required to understand the goddamn value of motherfucking multiple viewpoints?
Covino just made fucking dumpster face of the year.
I can't decide whether they're scared Shapiro might convince someone or if they just want to indulge their authority boner against some people they really don't like.
Probably both.
Blasphemy must not be allowed in the sacred halls of academia.
I have an idea.
Since the university wants more than one side represented, invite a libertarian speaker to balance out the conservative speaker.
Force the university president to explain why that's not balancing it out. Insist on details.
FYTW
"It's the same thing."
"In what way?"
"In all ways."
"Name one."
"Now you're just arguing to argue. This conversation is over."
Force the university president to explain...
Force him how, sweaty? Tickle him with a feather or mail him a box with a close relatives's amputated finger?
both?
Let's find his number and publish it here. Everyone calls his office tomorrow. That will be fun.
Here's the somewhat-irony of the thing =
Colleges are making 'conservatives' (if thats what we call Brietbart people these days) cool, and socialists "the lame establishment".
You were being 'counter-cultural' if you were a militant-lesbian communist back in the day.
Now that person *has their own university department*.
Now, a boring fucking right-winger is "too dangerous to consider", while the campus has mandatory re-education sessions on Social Justice for incoming students.
Apparently none of this seems odd to anyone.
Being a compliant, mindless jackass is the thing now. All the cool kids are doing it.
When you say "seems odd to anyone" do you mean here at H&R, or at campuses and in newspapers? Because I think a lot of us here aren't even remotely surprised that as soon as the "counter-culturals" got the power, they morphed into the oppressive douchebags they were fighting against. And this is seen time and time again in history.
I mean, I expected this. Years ago. I just had no idea it would take this form. But I knew it would happen in some way.
you are the exception of course. You were hip to that jive before the band even got together.
Look, I hated Zoidberg before it was cool.
At last, Zoidberg is famous!
I detect that you are a white male, even if you are a tad Italian. You are an oppressor. There's no such thing as race but I can smell yours over the Internet. Imagine being a college freshman and hearing this right out of the mouth of a dorm resident adviser who can actually see your face.
I once had a run in with some pencil neck RA when I attended WA State U. From the hallway, he saw a beer bottle sitting on a shelf f (my door was open to provide airflow as it was one of the warmer months). He told me he was going to close my door since some students might be intimidated by the fact that I was drinking alcohol. I told him I wasn't drinking, and that if he looked closely he would see the flower sticking out (it was being used as a vase). He said he would just go ahead and close the door anyway. I then explained if his arm entered my room, he would draw back a bloody stump. The little worm scurried away whining and bleating.
I heard from the hall director the next day. As we were both Army vets, we got along fairly well. I explained the situation. He said he would straighten the kid out, and that I would not be bothered by such nonsense again.
One can imagine how that might have gone in the alternative,if the hall director were some little faggot cookie pussy progtard.
"When Hell is full, the dead will walk the Earth become Republicans."
Good....good...........
Well I grew up in a nominally Communist (well, Revisionist, according to some) country, so it's pinging my childhood instincts.
You mean nostalgia?
I wouldn't say I'm exactly nostalgic, but "right-wingers unmasked by socially conscious students" is a sentence that I read and go, yup, sounds about right.
Actually, everyone is trying to out-left each other to be the coolest one. The cool kids distinguish themselves from the lam-o Democrats by being socialists. Once everyone's socialist, they go full Maoist. Conservatives, on the other hand, are less cool than ever.
College tuition loans should be dischargable through bankruptcy. That small legislative tweek would save Western Civilization.
I think you'd also have to outlaw federal loans at the same time, otherwise they would happily continuing to pour money into America's money hole.
The government-educational industry complex is too big to fail.
And too important to the DNC as well.
If the chamber of commerce types really wanted to do something to take back their party from trump, they would start a blacklist of schools that discriminate worst against conservatives, and treat those degrees as invalid. Openly, I mean, not in secret. Let those students know they're possibly cutting off major opportunities by associating with those schools, and let alumni know that until the school changes its policy, they will also suffer by association. If only one side is willing to fight a war, their victory is inevitable.
5 minutes later, "Look at this new protected class the SCOTUS found! We need to protect people who went to liberal colleges from discrimination!!!"
The Rs could indulge them, but write the law broadly enough that all political ideologies are protected. Then, since all progressive-controlled institutions openly discriminate against non-progressives whenever they can (and even if you can't prove deliberate discrimination, disparate impact is trivial), sue the fuck out of them all and burn the whole system to the ground.
+1
A Title IX for everyone else.
Bit of a shame that sometimes we have to stand up for cunts like Shapiro sometimes. It'd be nice if "no one" in "no one should be forced off the public square for words" and "no one should trade swords for words" didn't include shriveled up nancyboys with pent-up frustrations up the wazoo. Illinois Nazis, Socialists, hipsters with Yoko Ono-quality music on their playlist -- we could keep counting up the sordid cunts I've no interest in listening to all day long.
But there's a good reason those aren't censored: Step 1 in understanding whether something's a bad idea is hearing out a case for it. Those ideas that are banned are the ones which will be completely untainted once the banning government screws up (which it will), and they'll be tested without being thought through. Free speech is our safety hatch as much as it is our right. Mind what government bans. They might be doing it because they want to help you. Or, it might be the next big thing that takes away their power. Don't be surprised when people confuse the two.
nancyboys
I am feeling a bit unsafe.
Does this mean that when a liberal speaker is invited to speak, that they must counterbalance with a conservative speaker to debate him? Because that would probably move campuses in a much more conservative direction.
Of course not. Although since they opened this can of worms wee should bombard the administration with phone calls insisting on just that arrangement.
Don't forget the actual classes should be balanced as well, with a conservative to teach half of each class after the Marxist professor has its turn.
All Progressive arguments are merely rationalizations for power, to be used when convenient, and denied when not.
I'm waiting with bated breath for all the conservative and libertarian professors you're going to hire to give students "the value of considering multiple viewpoints."
You're missing the point Robby. Liberals, (I really hate this MIS attribution of that term) progressives, socialists and communists are right. Anyone with a different POV is wrong. So, we'll allow him to speak, but only when we can counterbalance that with correct thinking. Sharing of ideas only matters if those ideas are within the approved framework of right thinking.
You know who else wore jackboots and didn't like people named Shapiro?
Bouncers at Augusta National CC??
The university will get plenty of donations from liberals to balance out the cost of defending against the inevitable lawsuit (which they will lose). There need to be federal criminal sanctions against public university officials who pull this shit and blatantly violate their students' rights, per the 14th Amendment.
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