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The Dying of the Poor White Americans

Rising white mortality is associated with increasing rates of opioid overdosing, suicides, and alchohol abuse.

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In modern countries mortality rates for all age groups have generally been falling as average life expectancy increased. Princeton University scholars Anne Case and Angus Deaton have recently reported that these mortality trends have apparently reversed for poor middle-aged American whites during the past decade. I reported other data showing that mortality rates have also been going up for younger white Americans, too. Increased white mortality is associated with rising rates of opioid overdosing, suicides, and alchohol abuse. In contrast, mortality rates continue to fall for black and Hispanic Americans.

Today, Johns Hopkins University sociologist Andrew Cherlin has an op-ed in the New York Times in which he asks, "Why Are White Death Rates Rising?" His analysis focuses on reference group theory. Basically, he argues that many whites with high school educations or less are losing heart because they do not feel as though they are doing as well as their parents did. Cherlin suggests:

And here is one solution to the death-rate conundrum: It's likely that many non-college-educated whites are comparing themselves to a generation that had more opportunities than they have, whereas many blacks and Hispanics are comparing themselves to a generation that had fewer opportunities.

When whites without college degrees look back, they can often remember fathers who were sustained by the booming industrial economy of postwar America. Since then, however, the industrial job market has slowed significantly. The hourly wages of male high school graduates declined by 14 percent from 1973 to 2012, according to analysis of data from the Economic Policy Institute. Although high school educated white women haven't experienced the same major reversal of the job market, they may look at their husbands — or, if they are single, to the men they choose not to marry — and reason that life was better when they were growing up.

In my column, I speculated that government welfare policies are making the situation worse:

Perhaps dependence on the paltry alms doled out by the welfare state encourages rural recipients to stay out in the boondocks where they have few opportunities for improving their lives. Not being as cautious about speculation as Case, I'll guess that lots of poor rural whites have come to believe that the modern world is leaving them behind and are seeking solace in mind-numbing substances and suicide. Bribing people to stay poor can kill them.

The whole op-ed is worth a read.

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  1. Women and minorities hardest hit.

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  2. And here is one solution to the death-rate conundrum: It’s likely that many non-college-educated whites are comparing themselves to a generation that had more opportunities than they have, whereas many blacks and Hispanics are comparing themselves to a generation that had fewer opportunities.

    So it is a zero-sum game. I knew it!

  3. I’ve watched rural folk in Kentucky put mountain dew in their baby bottles. If you didn’t know any better you’d swear they were doing everything they could to offset all the gains modern medicine has given them. A depressing thought experiment is to imagine the modern world without all the prescription drugs that are basically artificially boosting lifespans.

    1. 50 years ago, these choices weren’t available to them.

      1. Yep, the real tragedy. But why should they care when someone else is picking up the tab.

        1. The real tragedy is that people will fuck themselves up and our humanity will not let them perish from their own choices. What can be done? Are we really gonna let a mountain dew guzzling diabetic die becaue he can’t afford insulin? I don’t think so. Such are the costs of our humanity and I don’t mind sharing in the cost. What I do mind is being forced into it.

          1. What these people tend to do nowadays is disappear piece by piece, because we’ve gotten so good at keeping them alive as they ruin their kidneys and vasculature.

  4. So a demographic that the government now specifically discriminates against (via affirmative action/quotas for anybody but them) is dying sooner. Gosh, what a mystery.

    1. That doesn’t hold. Educated whites aren’t dying sooner, and I am pretty sure the quotas apply to them more than the hicks. The welfare explanation holds better.

    2. The data discredits the blanket statements which portray all white people, particularly all white men, to be super privileged. I’ve been wondering how long it would take for something to come of this.

      Women for example, have been doing been than men in many metrics for some time; http://www.bu.edu/today/2015/p…..you-think/ but you can bash men publicly and get thunderous approval.

      Can I soon expect the government to be enacting fairness programs on the behalf of formerly “privileged” groups?

      1. *doing better*

      2. Can I soon expect the government to be enacting fairness programs on the behalf of formerly “privileged” groups?

        Isn’t that what Trump is campaigning on?

        1. Whatever he’s campaigning on, I know it will be great!

        2. Namely what? Telling the left the left to shut up?

          1. Sorry for the double tap.

  5. “I’ll guess that lots of poor rural whites have come to believe that the modern world is leaving them behind and are seeking solace in mind-numbing substances and suicide.”

    Don’t city dwellers use drugs more though? Maybe the kind of drugs differ.

    1. Don’t city dwellers use drugs more though? I don’t know what the stats are but I know there is major drug use going on in Appalachia.

  6. Those privileged whites are just dying to get out of paying their fair share, because racist.

  7. I also suspect that much of the mortality is due to mental illness and addiction indoctrination that requires they admit they have a lifelong brain disease. Many people who get a DUI, for example, are required to attend AA where they can be bullied and abused by the old-timers. The suicide rate in the 12 Step cults is off-the-charts, and yes this is proven. Of course, you have to admit that what’s killing people is not ‘addiction’ but intentional suicide. That’s the first step, and many are in denial.

    1. It’s not intentional suicide, it’s depression. alcohol can get help add color to an otherwise gray world for some individuals.
      Court said my minor in consumption self to AA, I learned that most people there are addicts period. They switch to coffee and cigs.
      I also learned it is a place for storytelling and one upsmanship. These old folks did so many crazy idiotic things while drunk, things I could not have even fathomed.

      1. “…things I could not have even fathomed.”

        Like voting Democrat-Socialist or maybe Trump-Fascist, for example?

      2. “It’s not intentional suicide, it’s depression.” You are an idiot. (Or are genius making a crazy statement I cannot even fathom.)

  8. The hourly wages of male high school graduates declined by 14 percent from 1973 to 2012

    What has happened to their taxes in that time? And the percent of income going to government rent seeking?

  9. Is “murdered by niggers” a category?

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  10. It’s the economy, stupid. In times of economic transformation, the most vulnerable to dislocation or dispossession often meet with early avoidable deaths. During the Yeltsin years in Russia such people died in their millions, even giving Stalin a run for his money.

    1. ” During the Yeltsin years in Russia such people died in their millions”

      Citation?

      1. In times of economic transformation, the most vulnerable to dislocation or dispossession often meet with early avoidable deaths

  11. dependence on the paltry alms doled out by the welfare state encourages rural recipients to stay out in the boondocks

    I live part time in one of the most rural parts of West Virginia. There are some pretty poor people around here, and I suspect they probably get welfare in one form or another. If so, it enables them, I’m sure, to stay here. But I don’t think they need “encouragement” to stay. They like it here, and I completely understand why. It’s beautiful and a tight-knit community (if a little suspicious of outsiders sometimes). Subsidies may enable them, but it’s enabling them to live in the place they want. Not everyone yearns for the city or suburbia.

    1. “The place they want” is also driving them into a circle of despair and suicide. They need to up and move for their own good.

      1. Maybe a minority. Most people aren’t killing themselves. They just have different preferences than people who like less rural areas.

  12. I don’t think these people ever felt like they had opportunities. A lot of them probably felt like meth is a fucking fun time, though.

    I have relatives in rural Missouri. Poverty is just the norm. You start talking about not-poverty, you get blank stares, if not overt hostility. I never minded, because the freshly-killed fried chicken was the fucking bomb.

  13. It is a tragedy of what’s happening to white males in this country.
    Between the Narcotics, Alcohol, DUI, suicides, and illnesses, we are losing a big chunk of America.

    The regular non-elitist White American man was a privileged individual that had a guaranteed retirement, a job until 62 or early disability.

    Now, the white man has been turned into a Mexican, and they are not liking it.

    Look at Trump, you know why he’s so popular with these guys (and pretty much, these guys only), because Donald Trump is the Barack Obama of the White Man. Trump will bring change and bring back American and white privilege…or so he claims.

    If there’s anything I learned from Barack Obama is that the President of the USA is not King. Trump can promise all he wants. He’ll be ineffective in bullying the congress/courts to get what he wants.

  14. “Perhaps dependence on the paltry alms doled out by the welfare state encourages rural recipients to stay out in the boondocks where they have few opportunities for improving their lives. Not being as cautious about speculation as Case, I’ll guess that lots of poor rural whites have come to believe that the modern world is leaving them behind and are seeking solace in mind-numbing substances and suicide. Bribing people to stay poor can kill them.”

    Whew. That’s some big jumps in logic! If that’s the case though, maybe we shouldn’t make those sums so paltry? However, I doubt the story. The thing I’ve heard from White rural conservatives is that Welfare money pretty much all goes to Black people– and they’re doing fine.

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  15. There are millions more white people living in poverty than Hispanics or Blacks. It’s just a sheer numbers game. The difference is that the poor blacks and minorities tend to live in urban areas close to liberals (and run by liberals), and the poor white people live in rural areas that are looked down upon by said liberals. Everything conservatives say about poor minorities that liberals consider racist is exactly the same thing liberals say about poor white people. They’re lazy, their culture shuns education, they’re bigoted, they have stupid names like Bobby Jo, they’re drug addicts, they blindly vote for one party against their interests, etc. Thomas Sowell wrote a book about how urban blacks took up white redneck culture, and although I’ve never read it, the concept does seem plausible at face value.

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