New Lawsuit Attempts to Fix Broken Indiana Property Forfeiture Rules
The schools are supposed to get the funds when police seize assets, but that's not happening.


Indiana permits civil asset forfeiture, where police and prosecutors are able to seize citizens' property if it's connected to a crime, but it has a catch: All the money from forfeitures is supposed to go to the school system. This is according to the state's constitution and is intended to pretty clearly avoid handing police and prosecutors a profit motive. Since they don't get the keep the money for their departments, there's less of an incentive to abuse the tools to try to take property and money from average citizens or to fight having to give it back if it turns out the accused are innocent.
But it turns out this system is not what is actually happening in Marion County, where Indianapolis is situated. A state law gave police and prosecutors permission to deduct law enforcement costs from these seized assets. You can probably guess what happened next. From the Indianapolis Star:
The state law in question is interpreted differently by each county. Some meticulously account for the investigative costs and send the remaining dollars to the school fund. Many do not put money into the school fund. In Marion County, forfeited funds are divided between the law enforcement agency and the prosecutor's office, according to court records.
According to memorandums of agreement between the agencies, the prosecutor's office gets 30 percent of forfeited funds. The remaining 70 percent goes to IMPD or to the Metro Drug Task Force, a group of officers from Marion and neighboring counties, depending on which law enforcement body is involved in an investigation. …
Indianapolis law enforcement officials say asset forfeiture is a tool that allows them to target criminal organizations, and forfeited funds are a small portion of their budgets but are an important source of revenue to train officers and purchase vehicles and equipment. The Metro Drug Task Force in Indianapolis, for instance, is funded almost entirely by forfeited dollars. In an earlier interview with IndyStar, Curry said his agency uses the money to pay for the salary and benefits of deputy prosecutors who specialize in forfeiture cases.
Officials also say forfeited funds do not fully cover their investigative costs.
If you give police permission to deduct their expenses, then they are going to expense as much as they can, aren't they? This isn't new, and it's a known problem in Indiana. Former Reason editor Radley Balko highlighted Indiana law enforcement agencies' dreadful abuse of asset forfeiture tools all the way back in a 2010 issue of Reason magazine.
Today the civil forfeiture-fighting lawyers of the Institute for Justice have stepped in. They are representing Jack and Jeanna Horner, who had two of their vehicles seized after police suspected their son, who was borrowing the vehicles, of using them to transport marijuana. The Horners were never charged with a crime (and the case against the son failed) but fought for months to get their property back.
The Institute for Justice is arguing that the law that's allowing the police to keep the money is a violation of Indiana's constitution and must be struck down:
For far too long, police and prosecutors in Indianapolis have been keeping 100 percent of forfeiture proceeds for themselves. The constitution couldn't be clearer—"all forfeitures" belong to the schools—yet the Indiana school fund hasn't seen a penny of forfeiture money from Indiana's capital since before some current students were even born. Meanwhile, police and prosecutors are siphoning off millions of dollars in civil forfeiture proceeds, violating both the Indiana Constitution and the state's Civil Forfeiture Statute and fueling an increasingly aggressive forfeiture machine.
It's a bit of an unusual angle compared to other fights against civil asset forfeiture. Typically activists are trying to end the practice entirely as a blatant Fourth Amendment violation. In this case, they're just trying to make sure Indiana law enforcement officials follow the state's constitution.That matters because the state's constitution so thoroughly defeats the profit motive for forfeiture that it would essentially be "reform" if the rules were followed properly.
Read more about the case here.
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But if law enforcement can't recoup the costs of seizing property, then they will be disincentivized to fight crime by seizing property. Doesn't the Institute for Justice understand this?
And there are kids out there sexting! How can we sleep at night, not knowing those monsters are going away for a long time!
I don't see much different between the black holes of "school funds" or "police funds" or even "general funds". It's still an agent of the state filling the state's coffers.
The difference is if Johnny Law can't get for the station a new cappuccino machine out of it, why would he bother filling out the extra paperwork to seize hapless mom and dad's car? Now, if he can find a way to funnel those seized profits into school resource officer budgets...
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+ 1 Bearcat
Incentives matter.
Maybe fucking over the little guy is incentive enough for them.
Incentives matter.
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Power attracts corruptible people.
I think that covers it. Live long and prosper.
But it turns out this system is not what is actually happening in Marion County, where Indianapolis is situated. A state law gave police and prosecutors permission to deduct law enforcement costs from these seized assets. You can probably guess what happened next.
I dunno, sounds like the forfeiture systems are working in Indiana pretty well. I would think that breaking the forfeiture law would actually be a laudable goal.
Laws without penalties for those who break them amount to mere suggestions.
People in law enforcement aren't following the law.
I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Your winnings sir.
There's no lottery for dick pics, you know. At least, not outside Chatroulette.
Good for Jack Horner, fighting for justice means he's *really* a good boy now.
says he.
"... Curry said his agency uses the money to pay for the salary and benefits of deputy prosecutors who specialize in forfeiture cases."
We have to take the citizenry's money so we afford to pay ourselves to take the citizenry's money.
Officials also say forfeited funds do not fully cover their investigative costs.
What investigative costs? We're talking about where you're seizing assets with no convictions and often even no charges. How much can it possibly cost to not investigate a non-crime? And if it's costing more than you're taking in, why don't you stop not investigating non-crimes, dumbass?
Yeah? Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man! I'd explain it to you, but I doubt your feeble little civilian mind could understand it. Otherwise, you'd be a cop!
/department's Public Information Officer
The schools are supposed to get the funds when police seize assets[.]
That's the ticket to get public support for a new fine or levy - it funds schools!
Just like the lottery !
(checks property tax bill)
Guess not.
Indiana? What does John Cougar Mellencamp think of this? Maybe he could organize some kind of concert.
There was another guy from Indiana. Played basketball or something. Wonder what he thinks?
I doubt Gene Hackman gives two shits about asset forfeiture.
Not that guy, that other guy from Indiana!
Yeah but his is really Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. They named the dog Indiana.
John Wooden?
Michael Jackson?
Axel Rose?
Kurt Vonnegut?
James Dean?
Way OT here, but, has this been mentioned today?
Talk about high-level trolling...
Why, yes. Yes, it did.
/scroll is my friend
theintercept reviews Michael Moore's latest Where to Invade Next:
It's because the core ideology of the United States isn't capitalism, or American exceptionalism, but something even deeper: People are bad. People are so bad that they have to be constantly controlled and threatened with punishment, and if they get a moment of freedom they'll go crazy and ruin everything.
The secret message of Where to Invade Next is that America's had it wrong all along about human beings. You and I aren't bad. All the people around us aren't bad. It's okay to get high, or get sick, or for teenagers to spend every waking moment trying to figure out how to bonk each other. If regular people get control over their own lives, they'll use it wisely rather than burning the country down in a festival of mindless debauchery.
The message of Moore's latest movie seems to run counter to his message in Sicko, Capitalism, and Bowling for Columbine.
You and I aren't bad. All the people around us aren't bad
He forgot the obligatory, except for Republicans.
IJ!!!!!
I guess anything that draws attention to asset forfeiture is a good thing.
Law enforcement is now a for profit criminal enterprise. Imagine being able to steal from citizens no questions asked. No one is forced into law enforcement but what other occupation allows you to murder unarmed and mentally ill and steal from innocent people. Blue privilege as they attempt to distract and divide the public. I imagine this is how the Nazi's behaved with the Jews. Stealing and killing with the blessing of the government protected by unions.
"Officials also say forfeited funds do not fully cover their investigative costs."
I wonder how investigative costs get paid in other scenarios?
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