Clinton, Sanders Think Feds Should Save Flint. Here's Why They're Wrong.
A state matter, not a federal one.

During the New Hampshire Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders agreed that the federal government should do everything it can to alleviate the water crisis in Flint, Michigan. But the suffering people of Flint don't need a bailout from the feds—the state has a moral responsibility, and more than enough funds, to handle the matter.
"If Michigan won't do it, we need to move forward and make them pay," said Clinton, implying that she wants the federal government to authorize funds and then bill the state later.
"When you have one of the significant public health crises in recent years, of course the federal government comes in," said Sanders. He also called for Republican Gov. Rick Snyder's resignation.
It's true that Snyder's people made a colossally bad call in deciding to use the Flint River as a water source. And it's true that regulatory agencies—like the EPA and Michigan's Department of Environmental Quality—royally screwed up. State and local officials are ultimately culpable.
As Reason's Shikha Dalmia noted earlier today, the state of Michigan can and should make Flint whole again:
None of this is to suggest that Uncle Sam ought to feel compelled to hand Michigan extra cleanup dollars as some are suggesting (although the EPA has a hand in poisoning Flint residents too by staying mum when it knew that city water wasn't being treated for lead corrosion). That'll only create a moral hazard and make state leaders less accountable for screw-ups in future. Michigan Republican Rep. Justin Amash is entirely right that the state needs to take responsibility for the residents it poisoned and up its $28 million contribution. For example, it can divert the $30 million it spends on a totally useless Pure Michigan ad campaign to pay their medical bills.
In the meantime, corporations—that's right: greedy, unfeeling, profit-grubbing corporations—are donating millions of bottles of water to the people of Flint.
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Yeah, wife caught that earlier today and was chuckling; we need suicide bombers who kill themselves and no one else!
It's a shame s/he caused any damage to the plane at all, but, we'll take it.
I've heard conflicting reports. The guy who got vacuumed out might not have been the suicide bomber.
I'll save my ha ha has until we know for sure.
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"I've heard conflicting reports. The guy who got vacuumed out might not have been the suicide bomber."
Damn!
'...the man was able to "bypass rigorous security screening in Mogadishu...."' Wait, are they using "rigorous" in the way that most people use it? Because it doesn't sound like it.
Somalia? You mean the Libertarian paradise with no ROADZ!1!1!1!!!!?
No they were using the word 'rigorous' as it applies to the TSA.
Apparently this airport opening was a big deal, so it probably actually was rigorous. The fact of the matter is that you just can't stop a determined person, though. Hell I have titanium rods in my back. I wear and electric device strapped to my leg. They've never caught the rods, and it's fifty/fifty that they will catch the walk aide. Short of strip searching and body cavity searching everyone they will never catch everything.
Short of strip searching and body cavity searching everyone they will never catch everything.
Don't give them ideas.
Are there any Dems who actually believe in federalism?
Without states, you can't have the racist state's rights, racist!
Hello, sir. What is your regular handle? I'd like to buy you a drink or 10.
In League with the Dark Ones was my previous one.
I want to haunt the Buttplug but it has made itself scarce lately.
Can't imagine why...
I'm sure they'll start rooting for states' rights as soon as we have a Republican president who is stopping a Democrat-majority state from doing something.
"Here's Why They're Wrong."
Uh, because the feds were the *cause* of the problem?
Wait, haven't we established they chose the Karegnondi Water Authority as the source and the Flint River was the backup?
"Wait, haven't we established they chose the Karegnondi Water Authority as the source and the Flint River was the backup?"
I've lost track of which agency chose to do what when the other agency did something else.
What I do know is that a government agency decided to supply water without making sure the delivered water was safe to drink, and the federal government FDA passed on it.
And Mikey Ds is to blame.
That's what I know about it,
I would drink McDonalds water without hesitation. Did it today, in fact.
Don't you know that Ronald puts mind control drugs in everything, to make you crave it fortnightly?
I only seem to crave it when I'm in a huge hurry.
Don't you know that Ronald puts mind control drugs in everything, to make you crave it fortnightly?
No, that was the colonel.
The EPA discouraged the use of orthophosphates to correct for the corrosiveness of the water.
The regional EPA manager has already fallen on their sword.
"The regional EPA manager has already fallen on their sword."
I'll take your word that it has happened, but that leaves the question of why and how a single individual has authority to approve poisonous water for a city.
And by 'falling on sword', are we to presume that might be, oh, a paid vacation?
With benefits no douvt.
Not a vacation but resigned because a reporting indicating Flint water was contaminated was leaked to the public.
I'd prefer a literal falling on their sword, personally.
OT: I just watched five minutes of Pharma Bro telling Congress to piss up a tree and found it very amusing. The guy is an ass but the way he takes the Fif was brilliant.
"The guy is an ass but the way he takes the Fif was brilliant."
From all I've read, this is 100% true, and the fact that he gamed the 100% fucked-up FDA rules has yet to be admitted in any interview I've seen.
BTW, Suell, see this?
"San Francisco artist is evicted from his rent control apartment after 34 years"
http://www.sfgate.com/technolo.....807971.php
Both the article and the comments are NOT sympathetic...
If you have not watched the highlight reel it is well worth a watch. Dude is a major dick, but the congress critters are worse. Did you ever see Dee Snijder versus Al Gore in a congressional hearing back in the PMRC days? Reminds me of that.
Yes, I saw that one. Poor guy only had decades of under market rent to help him out. I guess his art could not do the trick.
Thanks for this OT discussion. I too found Shkreli's responses to the Senators freaking awesome, even if the guy is an over-the-top sociopath. He shut down the Senators' repeated attempts to get on a soapbox and posture and pose to their constituents and deftly brushed aside all of Gowdy's attempts to goad him.
I also found the SFGate and Business Insider stories awesome--especially finding out that rent control eventually harms the tenants who exploited it when they are dumped out into a market priced far higher than they had built their life around. That there is the equal and opposite reaction to their initial gain by locking in a below-market price ceiling.
Good lord, his rent is better than mine and I live in the DFW area (not downtown). Apparently he turned down a 100,000 buy out offer too.
Gee. Too bad Rodham doesn't know someone who controls a large charity that sits on hundreds of millions of dollars.
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