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State of the Union Tonight, Controversy Over Free Speech on Twitter, 'Audit the Fed' Vote Fails: P.M. Links

Robby Soave | 1.12.2016 4:30 PM

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  • Ted Cruz

    Yes, tonight is the night of the dreaded State of the Union. Reason will live-tweet it, though most of my colleagues would like the whole sorry spectacle to be abolished.

  • Twitter de-recognized Breitbart writer Milo Yiannopoulos last week, touching off a debate over whether the social media platform should be more conscious of harassment or more apt to protect its users' expectations of free speech.
  • Should Jackie, the subject of Rolling Stone's gang rape debacle, be named? The Washington Post still won't do it—in part because the paper promised to avoid doing so in exchange for an interview with her—while The Daily Caller's Chuck Ross has begun writing her full name in articles.
  • Speaking of Jackie, the extent of her catfishing scheme was recently revealed in court documents relating to UVA Dean Nicole Eramo's lawsuit against Rolling Stone. Jackie also lied to friend and crush Ryan Duffin about suffering from a terminal illness.
  • Paul's Audit the Fed bill was rejected by the Senate. Sen. Ted Cruz didn't show up for the vote.
  • Watch Liz Mair battle Ann Coulter over the latter's insane advocacy of Donald Trump.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Reason will live-tweet it, though most of my colleagues would like the whole sorry spectacle to be abolished.

    You can't have a drinking game on a work night.

    1. Los Doyers   9 years ago

      Citation needed, teetotaler.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

        I'M SAYING THAT'S WHY THEY WANT IT ABOLISHED, THEY'RE A BUNCH OF LUSHES.

        1. Los Doyers   9 years ago

          As a lush myself, even an excuse to *not* drink is an excuse to drink, DUH DOI

          1. Wasteland Wanderer   9 years ago

            Shouldn't that be "DUH DUI"?

    2. Anomalous   9 years ago

      I wonder how the invitees feel about being human props.

      1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

        And who can forget when Mattress Girl was a distinguished guest?

        That's some high standards those props will have to live up to.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

          Empty chair might top her

          1. BigT   9 years ago

            Empty chair was quite popular at the Heffalump fest in '12.

    3. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

      Hello.

      1. Quixote   9 years ago

        How interesting to learn, in the linked article concerning a Twitter "free speech debate" (ha-ha), that Milo Yiannopoulos doesn't recognize the line separating "ridicule and criticism" from criminal conduct. That line has been very clearly defined by the courts, as any reporter should know. See the documentation of America's leading criminal "satire" case at:

        http://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/

    4. Clich? Bandit   9 years ago

      hmmm....5 min late for ME!

      I guess Colorado is only allowed to get the lynx on time once a quarter.

      1. coloraDOOM   9 years ago

        You're in CO too?

    5. Ted S.   9 years ago

      I'll be listening to an exciting hockey game, anyway.

      1. R C Dean   9 years ago

        You lost me right between "exciting" and "hockey".

        1. Ted S.   9 years ago

          Soccer is exciting, too.

          1. Wasteland Wanderer   9 years ago

            Hockey is exciting because there are occasionally fights to watch.

            What's soccer got? Watching the flops?

  2. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    ...whether the social media platform should be more conscious of harassment, or more apt to protect its users' expectations of free speech.

    Are they being conscious of litigation?

  3. Pat (PM)   9 years ago

    Councilman-elect seeking pardon owes thousands in fines

    MCKEESPORT, Pa. (AP) ? A newly elected Pennsylvania city councilman says he should be sworn in because he's paid his debt to society for a 1993 felony drug conviction ? but he really hasn't.

    Corey Sanders, 45, still owes more than $36,000 in fines and restitution, according to court records.

    The McKeesport councilman-elect has been seeking a pardon from Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf to take office after he was prevented from being sworn in with his colleagues Monday. The Democrat pleaded no contest to two felony drug counts 23 years ago and was sentenced to four years in prison.

    Sanders said he addressed the fines and restitution in his pardon application, but referred further comment to his attorney, Rachel Morocco, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported (bit.ly/1PLS5ja). She didn't respond to requests for comment Wednesday.

    The Board of Pardons recommends to the governor whether to grant a pardon and has a backlog of about 1,500 cases, said Gary Tuma, spokesman for Lt. Gov. and Board Chairman Michael Stack.

    1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

      Restitution? Did he rob his dealer or something?

      1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

        Note to Rachel Morocco - I was simply speaking hypothetically about your client.

      2. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        Restitution to the state to help cover the cost of incarceration would be my guess. The state makes you pay for the billet they use to execute your sentence, don't ya know.

        1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

          I did some checking, and the situation looks like it might get awkward -

          (a) The guy is black.

          (b) Some white politician recently pled guilty to some stuff, but the plea involved only misdemeanors, not felonies.

          (c) Persons convicted of "infamous crimes" are ineligible for public office in Penn and the courts say felonies are infamous crimes.

          (d) The governor can't act on the pardon application until the Board of Pardons has a public hearing and makes a positive recommendation (if it chooses to do so).

          (e) The guy's supporters are angry and want Justice Now.

          Soooo...I suppose this issue will be resolved by handshakes and kisses all around and everyone will move on. /sarc

    2. Agammamon   9 years ago

      'Restitution'? To who? The king who lost face when one of his subjects showed public disrespect by deliberately disobeying an order?

      On the one hand - he's a politician and we all like to laugh at them when they get embarrassed.

      OTOH - what he did shouldn't have been a crime in the first place, let alone require 'restitution'.

    3. R C Dean   9 years ago

      I kinda like the idea of pre-convicted politicians.

  4. rts   9 years ago

    Syrian refugees in Canada to hit 10,000 under Liberal plan as Toronto, Montreal flights arrive

    According to the latest data on the Immigration Department's website, a total of 9,562 Syrian refugees have arrived in Canada since Nov. 4, when the new government was sworn into office.

    Of that, 4,744 are government-assisted refugees, compared to 4,201 who have been privately sponsored. Another 617 have arrived in Canada thanks to a mix of support from the federal government and private sponsors.

    1. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

      Trudeau will have a meet and greet. He and James Taylor will sing and be barefoot while they receive new immigrants.

      1. rts   9 years ago

        "Congratulations on being the 10,000th refugee! Here's $5 in Canadian Tire money"

        1. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

          $5?!?! Look at this la-dee-dah guy.

      2. Rhywun   9 years ago

        "This fries and gravy junk is boring. Let's go find some chicks at Union Station."

        1. RAHeinlein   9 years ago

          Well, that's what happens when you mispronounce poutine...

          1. Rhywun   9 years ago

            Somehow Canadian MasterChef was on my TV the other day.... and I heard at least 3 different pronunciations for it.

            1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

              I usually pronounce it 'poon-tang'

    2. Los Doyers   9 years ago

      Are outdoor rape gangs even a thing in Montreal at this time of the year?

      1. jesse.in.mb   9 years ago

        As if they didn't already have good reason to layer.

      2. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

        Who the heck wants to rape in -25c degree weather?

        1. Los Doyers   9 years ago

          Uh, yeah, who?! Not me, of course!

        2. Wasteland Wanderer   9 years ago

          Pretty sure the answer to that is STEVE SMITH. He's a yeti, remember?

    3. Ted S.   9 years ago

      Resettle them all in Nunavut.

      1. Pro Libertate   9 years ago

        Or the Yukon.

        My tiger friend has got the sled,
        And I have packed a snack.
        We're all set for the trip ahead.
        We're never coming back!

        We're abandoning this life we've led!
        So long, Mom and Pop!
        We're sick of doing what you've said,
        And now it's going to stop!

        We're going where it snows all year,
        Where life can have real meaning.
        A place where we won't have to hear,
        "Your room could stand some cleaning."

        The Yukon is the place for us!
        That's where we want to live.
        Up there we'll get to yell and cuss,
        And act real primitive.

        We'll never have to go to school,
        Forced into submission,
        By monstrous crabby teachers who'll
        Make us learn addition.

        We'll never have to clean a plate
        Of veggie glops and goos.
        Messily we'll masticate
        Using any fork we choose!

        The timber wolves will be our friends.
        We'll stay up late and howl,
        At the moon, till nighttime ends,
        Before going on the prowl.

        Oh, what a life! We cannot wait,
        To be in that arctic land,
        Where we'll be masters of our fate,
        And lead a life that's grand!

        No more of parental rules!
        We're heading for some snow!
        Good riddance to those grown-up ghouls!
        We're leaving! Yukon Ho!

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   9 years ago

          Something Under the Bed is Drooling had a better opening poem.

      2. WoodchipperPatriarch   9 years ago

        Assyria?

    4. Citizen X   9 years ago

      Syrian refugees in Canada to hit 10,000

      And why isn't Reason reporting on those 10,000 victims of assault and battery? Hmm?

      1. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

        Quotes around the arrival gate:

        'Hi you! So...where the hummus and women at?'

        'I don't get mad. I get rapey.'

        'I demand Gore-tex if you want me to be good.'

        1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

          This is cute and all, but this is a wholly different population from the migrants in Europe. These people have been stuck in refugee camps for years IIRC.

          1. Restoras   9 years ago

            So, in these refugee camps they magically lost all their cultural identity and indoctrination?

          2. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

            I thought it was.

            This is true because Canada is pretty strict with who it lets in.

            AND THROWS CYTOTOXIC .25 CANADIAN TIRE MONEY TO BUY HUMOR.

            1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

              Canada is less strict than America. It's easier to immigrate into Canada.

    5. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

      MOAR

    6. Krokko   9 years ago

      A bit short of the 25,000 they had promised to have accepted by this point...

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        They're taking longer but we'll get them all-and maybe more!

  5. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Jackie also lied to friend and crush Ryan Duffin about suffering from a terminal illness.

    Someone dodged a bullet.

    1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

      Oh. I was going to say that she does not have to be outed because she is a mentally disturbed person who needs help, but, if she was just lying to everyone I guess it doesn't matter.

    2. Ted S.   9 years ago

      It would have been better if Jackie's crush had been on Manti Te'o.

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        THIS IS WHAT VICTORY LOOKS LIKE.

        TED WINS.

  6. Gojira   9 years ago

    My favorite author, Chuck Tingle, is at it again, with the topical, Oregon Patriots Occupied My Butt.

    The follow-up to his timely classic, Slammed In The Butthole By My Concept of Linear Time.

    1. RBS   9 years ago

      Leonard Delaney writes from the heart instead of wasting time with research or experience. Living a clean lifestyle has allowed him to focus on doing good in school, honing his writing, and tinkering with technology. He lives well outside of Toronto with his mother and her cat while maintaining a long-distance relationship with his girlfriend, Misty (aka ?owyn16), who no longer responds to his direct messages, but he remains hopeful for a future with.

      Your favorite author is Cytotoxic?

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        I am all research and no cat. Fuck cats.

        1. Los Doyers   9 years ago

          Fuck cats.

          Just be careful of their barbed penises!

          1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

            DAMMIT

    2. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

      Speaking of the Oregon affair, there was a letter-to-the-editor in our local paper, the Contra Costa Times (sister of the San Jose Mercury News and the Oakland Tribune -- all combined they're the largest circulation newspaper in the Bay Area), in yesterday's edition. Thought you'd want to see this:

      A rundown on those terrorists in Oregon

      You may have heard that a group of heavily armed terrorists have taken over a federal building in Oregon. There's a lot of conflicting information on the Internet, which I have combed through to present you with the following summary.

      Ammo Talibundy, YeeHawdist leader of the Moonshinehideen group #VanillaISIS, and son of rancher-squatter Cloven Talibundy, is forming a cowliphate in eastern Oregon, and has asked for help from YallQaida and BubbaHaram in their effort to enact Shania Law.

      They have asked supporters to send snacks and socks, because apparently the welfare and disability checks they're all getting from the federal government are barely enough to buy the ammo needed to overthrow the federal government.

      Thomas K. O'Keefe
      Walnut Creek

      Imagine instead he had done this wacky letter about 'those Negroes in Ferguson' or "those homos and their gay marriage'. It would, of course, never have been printed. But it appears that even in the super-'tolerant' Bay Area, you can still make fun of rural white men as much as you want.

      1. Gojira   9 years ago

        People from dense urban centers are simply a superior form of life to the rest of us. You should know that by now. They always have the correct, forward-looking opinion on all things. It is the lot of the rest of us to shut the fuck up and provide them with food and timber, while they decide how we live our lives since we clearly can't be trusted to make the correct decisions for ourselves.

        Why just yesterday I was about to string up a negro for whistling at a white woman, but thank God a yankee from Chicago with a masters degree was on hand to stop me.

        I still went out and killed a few faggots afterward, though.

        1. Los Doyers   9 years ago

          Did you even let him tell you his family secret? His grandmother was Dutch!

          1. Mad Scientist   9 years ago

            Git on that handcart!

      2. Heroic Mulatto   9 years ago

        Thomas K. O'Keefe

        1. Wasteland Wanderer   9 years ago

          Education: The Ohio State University

          Of course.

      3. Agammamon   9 years ago

        #YallQaeda is hilarious. This . . . this is *trying too hard*.

        I do like BabbaHaram tho -

  7. Pat (PM)   9 years ago

    David Bowie: Italians petition God to 'send him back to Earth'

    Italians are petitioning God to stop David Bowie from being dead.

    The petition, started by Andrea Natella on change.org, was started with just a single signature and now has 820 supporters.

    The statement on her change.org petition is simple: "Letter to God. Say NO to David Bowie dead."

    At least he spared Lou Reed.

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      Lou Reed was actually given 20 years as a zombie.

      1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

        That would explain the Metallica collaboration.

    2. Agammamon   9 years ago

      Is there anything more pathetic than people who make and sign *online petitions*? I mean, say what you will about ISIS - but they're out there every day *making a difference*.

  8. Pat (PM)   9 years ago

    Girl dumped for being 'fat' gets revenge by sending her ex a bar of soap made from her liposuctioned FLAB

    A girl dumped by her boyfriend for being overweight has had her revenge - by sending him a cake of soap made from her fat.

    The young woman, known only by her online nickname Xiaoxiao, had liposuction after being dropped by the shallow fellow.

    In an unusual step, she used the matter that was extracted from her to mould her own payback cosmetics.

    Xiaoxiao then posted a pic of herself holding the soap to the Chinese social networking site Sina Weibo, according to the Shanghaist .

    In an accompanying message to her ex-boyfriend, she said: "Since I cannot go home with you this year, I've made a piece of soap from my own fat to give to your mum for washing up.

    1. Florida Man   9 years ago

      How is that revenge? Hey, free soap and also rid of a crazy person. Win-win brother.

      1. jesse.in.mb   9 years ago

        Depends on what she scented it with.

        1. Florida Man   9 years ago

          Placenta?

          1. jesse.in.mb   9 years ago

            As long as it isn't lemongrass. I'm so over lemongrass scented EVERYTHING.

            1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

              *quietly puts away bowl of Vietnamese Lemongrass Soup he was going to offer jesse*

              1. jesse.in.mb   9 years ago

                I like lemongrass. There was just a brief period of time where everything was lemongrass scented.

                I've made ~1.5 gallons of tom kha gai in the past couple of weeks. I have fresh lemongrass stacked in my kitchen now.

      2. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

        This isn't revenge, it's an honest thank-you gift for motivating her to do something about being a disgusting buffalo.

        Her complexion seems to have some kind of problem, though.

        1. RBS   9 years ago

          She must have a penis on her face.

    2. Brett L   9 years ago

      Well, I guess its better than dating van Gogh. Barely.

      1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

        Can you explain what you mean? I'm all ears.

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          Lend me an ear and I'll tell you.

    3. Lee G   9 years ago

      He ducked a bullet

      1. Rhywun   9 years ago

        And with the lady-shortage there, she must have been a real piece of work.

    4. IndyEleven   9 years ago

      You know who else made soap from marginalized groups?

      1. Private Chipperbot   9 years ago

        According to Reason, I'm guessing Trump.

        1. Wasteland Wanderer   9 years ago

          According to Nick it's Ted Cruz.

      2. Sapient Mulch   9 years ago

        Ahab?

        1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

          Whales aren't marginalized. You're thinking of the Welsh.

          1. Los Doyers   9 years ago

            Even then, it's those poor sheep that get it hard.

      3. Anomalous   9 years ago

        Tyler Durden?

        1. Overt   9 years ago

          I think you mean Jack. Tyler, and every other character (including the girl) were split personalities of Jack.

          1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

            SPOILER ALERT?!?!?!

      4. Suthenboy   9 years ago

        Mexicans refer to Jews as 'Soaps'.

        True story.

    5. Always a Carl, Never a Clyde   9 years ago

      From the source article:

      However, some netizens for unknown reasons came to the defense of the fat-phobic misogynist, accusing Xiaoxiao of being "ugly inside" and suggesting that "he really didn't dump you because of your looks."

      Yeah, for "unknown reasons".

    6. Ted S.   9 years ago

      Fat-bottomed girls make the rockin' world go round.

    7. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

      EW. Isn't that a potential biohazard?

    8. OO=======D   9 years ago

      The young woman, known only by her online nickname Xiaoxiao, had liposuction after being dropped by the shallow sensible fellow.

    9. GILMORE?   9 years ago

      Wow, I bet he's really kicking himself. She was a real keeper.

    10. DWC   9 years ago

      Yeah, wanting to be able to find your mate sexually attractive is shallow.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    The Washington Post still won't do it?in part because the paper promised to avoid doing so in exchange for an interview with her...

    They did an interview with her?

  10. rts   9 years ago

    Wisconsin HS students banned from chanting harmless phrases

    In an email sent out to students in December, which was obtained by the Post-Crescent, the WIAA banned "chants by student sections directed at opponents and/or opponents' supporters that are clearly intended to disrespect."

    The following words were reportedly included as examples:

    ? "Fundamentals"
    ? "Sieve"
    ? "We can't hear you"
    ? "Air ball"
    ? "You can't do that"
    ? "There's a net there"
    ? "Scoreboard"
    ? "Season's over" (during tournament play)

    1. Ted S.   9 years ago

      Can they still sing "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"?

    2. Private Chipperbot   9 years ago

      Went to a private school and we used to chant 'Your house has headlights' when playing public schools.

      1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

        How about when losing, did you do this chant to the public school?

        That's all right
        That's O.K.
        You're going to work
        For us some day

        1. Private Chipperbot   9 years ago

          That was also in the repertoire.

        2. Mickey Rat   9 years ago

          Mine did, the faculty told us to cut it out.

    3. BigT   9 years ago

      At my high school the favorite (later banned) chant was:

      Pain! Destruction! Total annihilation!!

      Which was taken verbatim from a pep talk from the basketball coach.

    4. a better chipper   9 years ago

      I played Football and Basketball for a WIAA team. Lot's of drunk, ruthless kids at every school you go to. I see no way that they'll be able to enforce this.

      The bed-wetters who oversee the WIAA don't surprise me though. During the Girls State Basketball tournament, we had to tell officials to fuck off repeatedly for asking us to stop our chants in the stands.

      Nothing egregious either, just yelled out "BOUNCE!" "PASS!" and "SHOT!" each time the opposing team dribbled, passed, or shot the ball. Well, that and "MOOO!" when their portly center lined up for free throws.

  11. Pat (PM)   9 years ago

    Teen Mom Photo Stirs Controversy, Banned From Yearbook

    Anderson Bonilla, yearbook editor at Mount Vernon High School in Alexandria, Va., wanted to represent different groups of students at the school and feature them in a two-page spread in the yearbook, including teen moms like 17-year-old Hannah Talbert. "We want to show the real world of what Mount Vernon is," Bonilla told the Washington Post. "We wanted to report something worth knowing."

    In the spread, Bonilla used selfies from Talbert's Instagram account, including one of Talbert (above) standing in front of her bathroom mirror while visibly pregnant.[...]

    But Esther Manns, the principal of the high school, told Bonilla and Talbert that the controversial topic and photos weren't allowed in the yearbook. Bonilla considers this a violation of his First Amendment rights and is seeking legal representation from the Student Press Law Center.

    1. OO=======D   9 years ago

      So tired

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1g6fRJN06E

  12. Los Doyers   9 years ago

    Watch Liz Mair battle Ann Coulter over the latter's insane advocacy of Donald Trump.

    So making America great again is insane?

    1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

      Watch Liz Mair battle Ann Coulter

      Mud, jello or oil? Otherwise Crusty and I will have a sad.

    2. WoodchipperPatriarch   9 years ago

      Is this a serious question?

    3. WoodchipperPatriarch   9 years ago

      Is this a serious question?

      1. Lord Rollingpin   9 years ago

        The Squirrels have a sense of humour.

  13. Ra's al Gore   9 years ago

    Saturday 17 January 2009: President 'has four years to save Earth'

    1. Ra's al Gore   9 years ago

      The above from James Hansen, from NASA at the time.

    2. Pro Libertate   9 years ago

      He meant to save earth, as in dirt, soil.

    3. B.P.   9 years ago

      Well, evidently he saved the Earth. He should probably talk about that during the SOTU address.

    4. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

      WE'RE THREE YEARS BEHIND SCHEDULE!??!

      1. Lee G   9 years ago

        Get your tattoo quick!

  14. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Paul's Audit the Fed bill was rejected by the Senate. Sen. Ted Cruz didn't show up for the vote.

    Leadership.

    1. WoodchipperPatriarch   9 years ago

      Cruz thought it was a bill to give Audis to the Fed. Foreigners sometimes have trouble with English pronunciations, after all.

  15. DEG   9 years ago

    Detroit Auto Show cars

    The Lexus looks interesting.

    Hyundai is spinning Genesis off into a separate division.

    I wonder why the CNN/Money reporter thought the Volvo was cool.

    1. Florida Man   9 years ago

      The ridge line looks like a truck this year.

      1. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

        It actually seems to be a very useful vehicle for 80% of people buying trucks.

        Of course, I read an article where in the comments the truck guys came out shitting all over it because of things like UNIBODY IS NO TRUCK, and THE SPARE IS HARD TO REACH, WHAT IF YOU WERE HAULING MULCH AND BLEW A TIRE!?

        1. Florida Man   9 years ago

          I think it is a great vehicle for people in the suburbs that like to do gardening or diy stuff.

        2. coloraDOOM   9 years ago

          I always loved the unibody argument. I'd call an old landcruiser or suburban a truck.

    2. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

      The Lexus looks interesting.

      Super sporty looking as it is, it still has essentially the same engine as my Lexus LS 460. I wonder how my old-man sedan would do racing against it.

      1. DEG   9 years ago

        I've read that new cars are getting heavier due to safety requirements, so maybe you'd do better.

  16. Ra's al Gore   9 years ago

    For the hell of it, can anyone run down the (on the hypothetical he wasn't born in Hawaii) difference between Obama's and Cruz's claims to be natural born citizens?

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      Cruz has two citizen parents who were aborad at his birth but returned to America and took up as citizens in good standing, making him a citizen. Obama's mother was a natural born cirizen and he was born in Hawaii making him a natural born citizen.

      1. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        I have heard that if Obama were born abroad to a citizen mother and a non-citizen father, the law at the time he was born stipulates that the citizen parent must have resided within the US for at least 5 years after the age of 15 and therefore his 18 year-old mother would not qualify. I have not searched to verify this but the law adopted in 1994 carries such a provision, with the stipulation that the citizen parent must have resided within the US for a total of 5 years, 2 years of which must be after the age of 14.

        Of course, I've also heard the reason Obama's college record is sealed is because he claimed falsely to have been born in Kenya on his admissions application. He may or may not have claimed to be Cherokee Indian on his grandmother's side.

        1. Agammamon   9 years ago

          Its actually ridiculously confusing - par for the course with US law - where the *marriage* status of the parents actually has an effect (of making it *more* difficult)

          http://www.uscis.gov/us-citize.....gh-parents

          In general, a Child Born Outside the U.S. is a Citizen at Birth when the Child's Parents Are *Not Married to each other at the Time of Birth*...IF

          The genetic or non-genetic gestational legal mother is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth, and the birth date is after December 23, 1952

          *AND*

          The mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of at least one year.

          So, if his parents *weren't* married - bam! Its a shoe-in and he's a natural born citizen.

          1. Agammamon   9 years ago

            http://www.uscis.gov/policyman.....pter3.html

            3. Child of U.S. Citizen Parent and Foreign National Parent?

            ?A child born outside of the ?United States? and its outlying possessions acquires citizenship at birth if at the time of birth:?

            ?One parent is a foreign national and the other parent is a U.S. citizen; and?
            ??The U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States for at least ?5 ?years, including at least ?2 ?years after 14 years of age.?

            ?Time abroad counts as physical presence in the United States if the time abroad was:?

            ??As a member of the U.S. armed forces in honorable status;?
            ??Under the employment of the U.S. government or other qualifying organizations; or?
            ??As a dependent unmarried son or daughter of such persons.?

            In all case - he's a 'natural born' US citizen.

            1. Agammamon   9 years ago

              And the same applies to Cruz.

              So much so that its amazing the amount of ink spilled over Obama's birth certificate. Even if you found the certificate that said 'born in Kenya' - he's still born to an American citizen parent who spent more than 5 years of her life inside the borders of the US, including at least 2 of those years after age 14.

              That is, literally, the only sticking point - the only place for a gotcha! - in his whole Birther 'scandal' - how much time did his mother spend in the US prior to his birth. And its pretty obvious that it was more than 5 years.

              1. grrizzly   9 years ago

                As I pointed below you completely ignored the fact that both Obama and Cruz were born before 1986 when different requirement were in place.

                In other words, if Obama had been born in Kenya he would NOT have been a US citizen at birth. Since he never naturalized, he would not have been a US citizen even today.

    2. kinnath   9 years ago

      One is a black liberal. The other is a hispanic conservative.

      1. Ted S.   9 years ago

        You mean a mulatto liberal.

        1. kinnath   9 years ago

          well . . if you want to get all technical and stuff

        2. BigT   9 years ago

          And a white hispanic conservative.

    3. Ted S.   9 years ago

      One is Team Blue; the other is Team Red.

    4. grrizzly   9 years ago

      You can read about it here.

      Obama was born before 1986 to married parents, and his father was an alien. Thus if it were an overseas birth, his mother would have to have lived in the U.S. for 5 years after age 14 in order for her child to be a natural-born American. Mrs. Obama was only 18 when Barack was born, so she had not even lived 5 years after age 14.

      Cruz's mother, on the other, was older (in her early 30s or late 20s) and could pass the US citizenship at birth to her son.

      1. Agammamon   9 years ago

        That's a complete misreading of the regulations.

        Its 5 years in the US, *including at least 2 after the age of 14*.

        http://www.uscis.gov/policyman.....pter3.html

        1. grrizzly   9 years ago

          I'm afraid it's you who completely misread it. The condition that you cite applies to children born on or after November 14, 1986. Between 1952 and 1986, when both Obama and Cruz were born, the law was different.

          Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock
          A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)

  17. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Watch Liz Mair battle Ann Coulter over the latter's insane advocacy of Donald Trump.

    How could one be generally anti-immigration and not support Trump?

    1. John   9 years ago

      And there is nothing insane at all about Reason's advocacy against Trump. I mean it is not like Ronald Bailey equated him to Hitler or Reason doesn't run like five stories a day obsessing on him or anything.,

      Nope. Coulter is the crazy one.

      1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

        Coulter isn't crazy. She's playing a part, and making a shitload of money doing it because people are idiots.

        1. John   9 years ago

          I don't even thing people are idiots. She is entertainment and her readers know it. What she mostly gets paid to do is troll people like the Reason staff. Needless to say, she is very good at it.

          1. jesse.in.mb   9 years ago

            her readers know it

            I think that might be really optimistic of you to believe. I've had enough people start sentences with "Ann Coulter points out..." and end them with "and I think she's on to something." enough times that I don't believe they're in the on the joke.

          2. Los Doyers   9 years ago

            I don't even thing people are idiots.

            lolwut

        2. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

          Exactly. Coulter is basically a professional troll and has made bank driving liberals into a frenzy. Trump is the same way. Their shtick is so transparent that it's embarrassing how worked up people get over them.

          1. TheZeitgeist   9 years ago

            People love them or love to hate them, but everyone loves something about them either way. Paul Krugman is a lefty gadget of similar social function.

      2. robc   9 years ago

        It can be both.

      3. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        Equating Trump to Hitler is not that outrageous, although comparing him to Chavez would be more apropros.

    2. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

      Mair is a libertarian republican and a serious intellect from what little I read. Basically the opposite of the wailing harpy she will be debating.

  18. John   9 years ago

    Iran seizes ten American sailors.

    Remember how the Iran deal was the only alternative to war? Remember that line of horse shit? And lets add in how not electing some evil war monger but instead electing someone who bows down to every enemy at every opportunity was the only way to stay out of a war. Yeah, because weakness doesn't cause wars by emboldening our enemies or anything.

    1. Ra's al Gore   9 years ago

      Iran holds two US Navy boats in Persian Gulf

      1. Ra's al Gore   9 years ago

        Carter, part II, Electric Boogaloo.

        1. John   9 years ago

          When does Obama invade the country with two helicopters?

          1. Sapient Mulch   9 years ago

            I was an off watch helo controller (OS) on an ASW frigate at that time. We sat in the Gulf of Oman, 28 miles off the coast of Iran and listened on the radio. We launched rescue helos from the task force, but were called off. Damn that sucked.

          2. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

            Much frowned upon cadence when I was a young soldier:

            "C-130 rolling down the strip
            Hit a helicopter and ruined the trip"

    2. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      Nations like Iran only understand power and strength. Negotiating with them, in general, is a sign of weakness. Getting railroaded into a pathetic deal that gives the Iranians everything they want, including lifting the arms embargo, while getting nothing in return beyond THE LEGACY OF A HISTORIC DEAL indicates to them that they can do whatever they want and America won't stop them.

    3. TheZeitgeist   9 years ago

      The Iranians are aiming for maximum comedic timing/embarrassment of the Lightworker.

      There are hasty edits to SOTU speech being made as we speak axing the Love My Iran Nuke deal shit.

    4. MJGreen - Docile Citizen   9 years ago

      When there are only two choices, and one is an evil war monger... you are kinda stuck.

    5. Grand Moff Serious Man   9 years ago

      Uh, the Pentagon has admitted that the boats were in Iranian territorial waters, meaning Iran has a legal right---if not obligation--to seize the ships to protect their sovereignty.

      Of course that could be a lie to cover up an embarrassing truth but can we not jump to conclusions here?

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        The state of Iran is a rights-abasing dictatorship and therefore has no rights.

        1. kbolino   9 years ago

          Is there any time you feel that ignorance of a subject is sufficient reason to avoid commenting on it?

      2. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        But...but I got the mat and everything!

  19. Rhywun   9 years ago

    Twitter de-recognized Breitbart writer Milo Yiannopoulos

    I wonder if they've ever de-recognized Barbra Streisand.

    1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

      No; her name is easier to spell.

    2. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      In Twitter's defense, I don't recognize the name either.

      Seriously, who is that guy?

      1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

        Derp outs himself as a non-Breitbartian.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

          It's true. Also a non-Twitterer. *hangs head in shame

  20. Always a Carl, Never a Clyde   9 years ago

    Amiga source code, vintage 1994, leaked.

    1. Lee G   9 years ago

      oh noes

    2. robc   9 years ago

      Umm...how does that prevent future development? I dont think Hyperion understands how things work.

      1. Lee G   9 years ago

        It might be the best thing that ever happens to that company.

      2. Always a Carl, Never a Clyde   9 years ago

        The idea is that Hyperion is using the code under license, and the leak may constitute a breach of contract. Whether it actually does, or whether it would result in losing their license, I don't know.

  21. Pat (PM)   9 years ago

    This Day in History

    1879 - The British-Zulu War begins. British troops ? under Lieutenant General Frederic Augustus ? invade Zululand from the southern African republic of Natal.

    1908 - A wireless message is sent long-distance for the first time from the Eiffel Tower in Paris.

    1932 - Oliver Wendell Holmes retires from the Supreme Court at age 90.

    1940 - Soviet bombers raid cities in Finland.

    1943 - Soviet forces raise the siege of Leningrad.

    1973 - Yassar Arafat is re-elected as head of the Palestinian Liberation Organization.

    1991 - The U.S. Congress gives the green light to military action against Iraq in the Persian Gulf Crisis.

    1998 - Nineteen European nations agree to prohibit human cloning.

    2010 - An earthquake in Haiti kills an estimated 316,000 people.

    1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

      1991 - The U.S. Congress gives the green light to military action against Iraq in the Persian Gulf Crisis.

      Huh? Since when is that necessary?

    2. robc   9 years ago

      1932 is the not.

      It was his son, OWH, jr.

      1. B.P.   9 years ago

        1943 is the not. The siege wasn't lifted until January 1944.

    3. rts   9 years ago

      1879 - The British-Zulu War begins.

      I really liked that movie.

    4. GILMORE?   9 years ago

      Most racist day, ever

  22. GILMORE?   9 years ago

    Nothing quite ends the day like Robby's news-free links.

    It totally changes your outlook on life to think that "Someone being un-personed by Twitter" was among the most significant global events of the day.

    that said....

    England = The Wonders of Single-Payer (not?) at Work

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

      It totally changes your outlook on life to think that "Someone being un-personed by Twitter" was among the most significant global events of the day.

      White people problems of the highest order.

      1. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

        What is this "Twitter" thing that you speak of?

    2. Juice   9 years ago

      Can't really call the NHS a "single payer" system. It's just a top-to-bottom run-by-government system.

      1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

        Pick your nits monkey.

        The point was basically that there'd be no point to this "Strike" if people could pay for treatment directly.

  23. GILMORE?   9 years ago

    Norks = Totally Faking It

    1. John   9 years ago

      That is both good and bad news. Good news that they don't have an H bomb. Bad news in that if the idiot son over there is getting desperate enough to make up shit like that, it might not be long before the place implodes.

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        The place isn't imploding though. Limited reform has been implemented that has lifted Nork living standards. The place is almost self-sufficient in food.

        1. jesse.in.mb   9 years ago

          It's been a few years since I was playing close attention, but 7 years or so ago the only reason people were only mostly starving was because ROK was shipping enormous amounts of rice into DPRK. As soon as it would cross the border the norks would repaint the trucks and tell the people it was a gift of food from the glorious leader. Oh, and the amphetamines. I mean, maybe enough people have died from permafamine that they can feed those left a bit better, but unless something crazy has happened recently, they aren't food self-sufficient.

          1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

            It's changed in recent times. The New Boss is actually better-if you're not an insider. He loves killing the regime insiders. Libertarian Moment?

        2. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

          The'll be allowing emigration soon.

          But why would anyone ever leave paradise?

    2. Rich   9 years ago

      + 5-year Plan 9 from Outer Space

  24. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

    She also told Duffin that she had a terminal illness and was "dying." But her biggest lies graced the pages of Rolling Stone in a Nov. 2014 article entitled "A Rape on Campus," which was written by Sabrina Rubin Erdely.

    I'm telling you, campus administration should have orientation classes that skip all the 'tolerance' bullshit and teach young, dick-first thinking males to watch out for this level of crazy.

    1. Drake   9 years ago

      What good would it do? She destroyed a frat and damaged the entire system without a single confirmed dick entering her.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

        Hence the obvious need for training.

        Make it like a 1950s vd film.

    2. WoodchipperPatriarch   9 years ago

      Duffin didn't stick it in her. He specifically 'politely declined' to do so, in fact. This bitch was just Godzilla-level destructive in a more compact package.

  25. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

    Speaking of Jackie, the extent of her catfishing scheme was recently revealed in court documents relating to UVA Dean Nicole Eramo's lawsuit against Rolling Stone. Jackie also lied to friend and crush Ryan Duffin about suffering from a terminal illness.

    You know, at this point I don't even blame "Jackie". This woman has some blatant mental issues. I blame the fucktards at Rolling Stone for seeking out and then basically encouraging her to formulate the most outrageous story she could, and I blame the rest of the media (present company excluded of course) for going along with it.

    1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

      I referred to her mental illness up-thread. She has real problems, and her actions did not cause anyone to go to jail, at least. Her enablers are the bigger issue. They should be ashamed. Jackie should just be receiving a lot of treatment.

      1. John   9 years ago

        I agree. If anything Rolling Stone took advantage of her. I don't think she deserves national sham. She is clearly a nut and Rolling Stone took advantage of that.

    2. Irish ?s ESB   9 years ago

      What evidence is there of a mental illness? Is being a serial liar obsessed with manipulating people into loving you a mental illness or just a ridiculous character flaw?

      1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

        There's a fine line there, it's true. But everything about this girl just screams mental illness. Whether it's a personality disorder or something more.

        1. Irish ?s ESB   9 years ago

          I have a problem with defining people who do immense harm to other people as mentally ill unless there is actual evidence of some sort of brain imbalance. What the fuck does mental illness even mean when you're using it to mean "someone who does something crazy and ridiculous?"

          She's a serial liar. Is a desire to constantly make things up for attention a mental illness now? If that's the case, then what bad behavior can't be classified as an example of a brain imbalance?

          1. PBR Streetgang   9 years ago

            It sounds like Munchausen Syndrome, no?

            1. Irish ?s ESB   9 years ago

              I'm not convinced Munchausen Syndrome exists. How is it a syndrome? It's you lying for attention. You aren't compelled to lie for attention. Even if you'd like to lie for attention you could choose not to.

              Barring actual evidence that this is a compulsion people can't control, in which case it would be a disease or syndrome, I'm going to continue on the assumption it's just people engaging in bad behavior which modern society has chosen to pathologize for some bizarre reason.

              1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

                I'm not convinced Munchausen Syndrome exists. How is it a syndrome?

                Syndromes are things we use to describe things we don't fully understand.

                I'm going to continue on the assumption it's just people engaging in bad behavior which modern society has chosen to pathologize for some bizarre reason.

                I'm pretty sure that mothers that have ... 'suffered' from Munchausen Syndrome are in prison which I agree is where they belong.

                1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

                  By the way, I'm talking about Munchausen By Proxy.

          2. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

            I would think her mental issues contributed to her lying so frequently.

            1. kinnath   9 years ago

              I was ward over a teen girl one time. She would open her mouth and blatant untruths would fall out. On most days she actually believed what she was saying. She was terrible at lying on purpose.

              It can be difficult to sort out mental illness as a source of falsehood versus intent to deceive as a source of falsehood. There is a fundamental difference between someone that seriously struggles to keep track of reality and someone that is a compulsive liar.

              1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

                I see no evidence in 'Jackie's case that her problems stem from an ability to discern reality (actual mental illness). All evidence seems to point to her being an inveterate and skilled compulsive liar.

                Erdley completely failed at her job, but the extremity of Jackie's story was such that real mental instability would have derailed this train much sooner.

                1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

                  I see no evidence in 'Jackie's case that her problems stem from an ability to discern reality (actual mental illness).

                  To be fair, clarifying my 'assertion' below, Jackie would probably be diagnosed with a Neurosis, not a Psychosis.

                2. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

                  She went to rape survivor meetings and told her story countless times. She told a friend she was dying. She did not just lie about the rape to Erdley. She lied about the rape to a rape survivors group, the dean, and probably everyone else who would listen. She was living that lie in an environment that not only allowed it to happen, but encouraged it.

                  I think she is more than just someone who tells tall tales.

                  1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

                    I once caught a fish this big?

                    (makes vague gesture with hands)

                  2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

                    I think she is more than just someone who tells tall tales.

                    She's someone who tells tall tales because of... who knows why for sure, but she was encouraged and rewarded at every step of the way.

                    1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

                      She's someone who tells tall tales because of... who knows why for sure, but she was encouraged and rewarded at every step of the way.

                      I agree. My assumption is the reason she lied was because she is mentally disturbed. It should not absolve her of responsibility, of course.

              2. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

                Is Tommy Flanagan still President of Pathological Liars Anonymous?

                1. Rich   9 years ago

                  Yes, along with the wife of that small Chinese man.

            2. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

              Also, personality disorders are not like serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia. They are more extreme personality types which still should be fully accountable for their behavior (whereas a schizophrenia patient might be so psychotic as to be unable to stand trial, due to severe confusion, delusions or hallucinations). Personality disorders include sociopathy, narcissistic, and borderlines -- who can all have their issues, but none could use their diagnosis to get out of criminal charges.

              1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

                C. Anacreon|1.12.16 @ 5:41PM|#

                Also, personality disorders are not like serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia. They are more extreme personality types which still should be fully accountable for their behavior

                This. I think Irish is thinking that I'm suggesting that you get a pass because of your personality disorder. You don't, and if people were better equipped to recognize them... THEY'D STOP FUCKING REWARDING THE DISORDER.

                I think the problem is kind of the opposite of what Irish is suggesting. No one wants to recognize a personality disorder, so every fucked up behavior is considered "valid" and should be given equal time. Had people looked at Jackie and said, "Huh, crazy bitch..." and stayed away from her, the messes she created for so many people would have been mere annoyances.

                1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

                  I share C. Anacreon, Paul's view.

                  In my firsthand experience with people in the loony bin, there's a big difference between 'clinically ill' people and the so-called "BPD's"... who mostly seem like they were just 'developmental' problems rather than 'disease'.

                  i.e. people who are "Sick" (mentally ill) are basically 'otherwise healthy' individuals who get stricken by some chemical bolt of lightening that fucks their gourd (*to be technical)

                  BPD's, or whatever that category of behavioral disorders is called... they're people who never got their shit straight to begin with. they were never normal, they are "normally"-fucking-crazy

                  apples, oranges.

                  1. WoodchipperPatriarch   9 years ago

                    +1 grab its leg.

                  2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

                    BPD's, or whatever that category of behavioral disorders is called... they're people who never got their shit straight to begin with. they were never normal, they are "normally"-fucking-crazy

                    Fun fact, the "borderline" in BPD was called as such because it was often so completely fucked up that initially researchers considered it on the 'edge' of a full blown psychosis: schizophrenia.

                    1. Je Suis Reason (Fmr. AuH20)   9 years ago

                      Yeah, and to add: most of these disorders are adaptations to incredibly shitty home enviroments.

                      Basically, BPD forms out of childhood abuse and neglect. BPD behavior is a great way to get attention, which kids need to get if their caregivers dont give a shit in order to have basic physical/emotional needs met.

                      As adults, this stops being adaptive, but shit like this gets wedged in your subconscious as a go-to strategy- because at one point, very early, it worked and was the strategy you learned to go to again and again.

                      BPDs and other PDs are fucking annoying, at best, as adults, but some of this shit is a bit less "controllable" than you think because so much happens on an unconciouss or subconscious level.

      2. Drake   9 years ago

        Or the only requirements necessary to be the front runner for the Democratic Presidential nomination.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

          Hey, that's not fair. Hillary also has a demonstrated commitment to selling favors to special interests

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

        What evidence is there of a mental illness? Is being a serial liar obsessed with manipulating people into loving you a mental illness or just a ridiculous character flaw?

        My guess is, from what I've read about her, most mainstream mental health professionals would probably diagnose her with actual Borderline Personality Disorder. I'm not going to get into a knock-down dragout debate about the veracity of the Mental Health Industry-- or the pop-definitions of BPD, but that's where I'd put my money.

        1. Irish ?s ESB   9 years ago

          "Most people who have BPD suffer from:

          Problems with regulating emotions and thoughts
          Impulsive and reckless behavior
          Unstable relationships with other people."

          Cool. We've now declared that all flighty assholes with relationship problems are suffering from a mental illness.

          This is how you end up in a situation where virtually every person on the planet could be described as mentally ill. Think you're uglier than you are? Body dysmorphia. Really arrogant? Narcissistic personality disorder. Kleptomania is in the DSM-V so people who steal a shitload are apparently mentally ill. 11% of people between 4-17 have been diagnosed with ADHD.

          Apparently all negative personality traits are now mental illnesses instead of just facets of humanity.

          1. Sapient Mulch   9 years ago

            Just another aspect of some humans needing to control others.

            1. gaoxiaen   9 years ago

              NEEDZ MOAR ELECTROSHOCK!

          2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

            Having some experience with this, what you cut and pasted is pretty surface level stuff. Most mental health professionals are looking at people who have all of those things you pasted, but at some point those 'unstable relationships (to name one example) get so unstable they somehow always automagically involve the police.

            You know, the girl that is perpetually being 'date raped' by every partner she's with-- and every personal relationship she's in somehow rises to the level of the entire university system across the country having to come up with emergency policies to rectify the epidemic of campus rape, and she gets invited to the white house SOTU with a mattress on her back and is getting dramatic writeups in national news magazines. That type of thing.

            Sorry dude, but that behavior "ain't normal", to borrow a quote.

            1. Pat (PM)   9 years ago

              Yeah, I too have know people diagnosed with BPD, and it was definitely more... pervasive, I guess you might say, than just general assholery. Everyone can exhibit those behaviors, but exhibiting them in specific ways over and over again in a repetitious pattern across the course of a lifetime despite horrendous personal consequences and despite recognizing the destructive behavior is... well, it's something. I wouldn't say it's an illness per se. But there's something there beyond just conscious behavior.

              1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

                Another thing to remember is that diagnostic manuals like DSM are not intended to be used by the general public to determine pathology, any more than you should feel you know what medical diagnosis you have by going on MedScape. There's quite a difference between what a typical person might think when they read a line like 'problems with regulating emotions' compared to how a clinician with years of training and experience would interpret it. And no, this is not a 'top men' situation, far from it -- but everyone has terminology in their professions that might be interpreted differently by lay people.

                Further, DSM is mostly nothing more than a manual to help you determine codes to enter on a patient's billing document. It's like a Chilton Manual for mental health professionals. Lay people give it far too much authority (which the publisher exploits when they say it is 'the bible of psychiatry', when it is anything but). It really isn't much of a part of the average mental health clinician's practice, which is almost all derived from experience and training.

                1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

                  There's quite a difference between what a typical person might think when they read a line like 'problems with regulating emotions' compared to how a clinician with years of training and experience would interpret it.

                  Exactly this. Exactly. "problems with regulating emotions" is a header to an entire subchapter describing marker behaviors etc.

          3. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

            Wait...arrogance and narcissism are bad?!?!

      4. BigT   9 years ago

        Is being a serial liar obsessed with manipulating people into loving you a mental illness or just a ridiculous character flaw?

        It is the fastest way to the White House circa 2008.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

          Exactly.

    3. GILMORE?   9 years ago

      "Monahan ? whose existence as a UVA student has been disproven ? and Duffin texted about Jackie. Duffin initially presented himself as a female student named "Brianna" and flirted with Monahan to redirect his attention away from Jackie."

      Ok, i completely lost the plot already. WTF. There's real people in there somewhere?

      1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

        None proven, as yet, but sone corners still insist on referring to her as the victim.

  26. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Liz Mair is pretty cool, but there is no way I am going to watch that.

    1. Irish ?s ESB   9 years ago

      I still remember the time Bo flew into a tizzy because I found some of Liz Mair's tweets funny and they were SO VULGAR, OMG HOW UNPROFESSIONAL.

      I'm glad that guy appears to be gone.

      1. Florida Man   9 years ago

        I hadn't noticed he left until you mentioned it.

        1. Clich? Bandit   9 years ago

          Bo was MNG. C'mon poeple. I pointed it out day one. It is easily confirmed by the shear amount and quality of elitist bull shit spewing forth from his gaping maw.

          1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

            He could have been MNG.

            1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

              I'm not sure he had it in for John enough to be MNG.

        2. Pat (PM)   9 years ago

          Warty pretty much went off the deep end with the socon/crypto-Republican paranoia right after Bo left, taking SF with him, so we didn't get much time to miss him. Unlike Bo though, they're usually content to end a conversation with a scatological reference or personal insult after a couple of posts instead of shitting up multiple threads with hundreds of posts over a day or more. Which is nice.

  27. rts   9 years ago

    Powerball jackpot hits $1.5 billion

    That's enough to like, pay off the national debt and have enough left over to give each American a Ferrari, right?

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      I'll bet I could rent whore island for long enough to kill myself with the winnings.

    2. Los Doyers   9 years ago

      You ain't gettin shit until you buy your ticket. No free handouts.

      1. rts   9 years ago

        Powerball dreams, Canada? A U.S. law could get in the way

        U.S. law does not forbid foreigners from buying tickets or winning the lottery, and according to the Powerball website, "You do not have to be a citizen or a resident to play the game. You can be a tourist."

        But if a Canadian buys a ticket, takes it home, and then tries to bring it back into the United States, they risk violating a law that forbids importing "immoral articles."

        According to the law, "all persons are prohibited from importing into the United States from any foreign country any ? lottery ticket, or any printed paper that may be used as a lottery ticket, or any advertisement of any lottery."

        1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

          violating a law that forbids importing "immoral articles."

          Rufus could be guilty just from visiting here.

    3. Pro Libertate   9 years ago

      It's enough for me to retire on, I think.

      1. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

        IT WON'T MAKE YOU HAPPY

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

        Barely. And given your recent prolific commenting (which has been missed by...*looks at list* me), I would suggest you're already retired.

    4. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

      I said last week that if I won, I was buying an island and seceding from the United States. I've found the island. As a bonus, it has its own power-generating capability.

      1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

        You'll have to kick the Professor, the Skipper and the Howells off the island first.

        Then you and Gilligan have Ginger and Mary Ann all to yourselves.

      2. WoodchipperPatriarch   9 years ago

        That is waaaay too close to Florida.

      3. Mr Drew   9 years ago

        Ok, and just where do I plant the crops?

    5. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

      I'd buy precious metals with 100 mill right off the top.

      1. Juice   9 years ago

        Why?

        1. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

          Insurance. Even if gold and silver are overpriced, $100 million dollars worth will ensure I'll be wealthy no matter what happens to currencies or markets.

          1. Florida Man   9 years ago

            Where are you going to store it?
            /takes out pen and paper

            1. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

              Someplace no one would ever look. Hillary's vajaja?

              1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

                *carefully folds ski mask, gloves and puts them back into bag with pistol and duct tape, returns bag to closet*

    6. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

      Well, maybe not a *new* Ferrari, but a servicable pre-owned one.

      I mean, let's not get ridiculous here.

  28. GILMORE?   9 years ago

    New York City = Not satisfied with total gun ban, creates "Gun Courts" to create impression the State is extra-special-sauce-surrious about things that go bang

    I have no doubt their special-efforts will be as super-successful as their special "Getting Guns off the Streets"-policing, which has sometime-ironic side-effects

  29. GILMORE?   9 years ago

    Climate Change Lobbyist = PLEASE OBAMA, PLEASE GIVE US MORE MONEY BEFORE YOU GO, YOU'RE THE LAST CHANCE WE HAVE BEFORE PEOPLE CATCH ON

  30. waffles   9 years ago

    Goldman Sachs has way spiffier millennial infographics than you , Reason.

    But I'm not sure it's helpful or hopeful. Fuck it, let's go skiing.

  31. Irish ?s ESB   9 years ago

    You can find Jackie's name all over the place. It's stupid major news organizations won't use the name of an obvious liar, but it's also stupid to behave as if she's still anonymous. Her name's been known for basically a year now.

    Jackie Coakley, Jackie Coakley, Jackie Coakley...

    1. waffles   9 years ago

      But how many jackies are out there than haven't been outed yet? We need common sense coed control now!

    2. Ted S.   9 years ago

      Any relation to the evil Martha?

    3. Adans smith   9 years ago

      This is a warning to all men. A public service.

    4. PapayaSF   9 years ago

      She put on weight and got married (in that order).

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        Gubbler Chechenova ? 3 days ago
        Was Haven Monahan the best man?
        7 ? Reply?Share ?

        OK, I laughed at that.

    5. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      Haven Monohan is currently one of the fake names i use when buildings make me sign in

  32. Always a Carl, Never a Clyde   9 years ago

    Trigger warning: Gawker Media

    McDonald's Cosplay Stunt Backfires in Taiwan

    According to Next Mag, there were complaints about this cosplay, namely that the bloodied nurses undermined the image of health care professionals, and that the fake blood made the food appear unsafe.

    The Taiwanese military had to call out one branch in Tainan. At the restaurant, the staff wore military uniforms. Were the armed forces lovin' it? Not exactly.

    According to LiveDoor and ETToday, the country's Defense Ministry is thinking of taking legal action for not only harming the armed forces' reputation?as their function is to protect and not serve fast food?but also for breaking the law.

    1. Ted S.   9 years ago

      Aw, somebody isn't sufficiently deferential to the military.

      1. Adans smith   9 years ago

        You know who........

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

      It's damn near impossible for a cosplay stunt in the Asian world to go wrong.

      1. C. Anacreon   9 years ago

        Do you think, based on the kind of play Bill Cosby was apparently into, they'll change the name of Cos-play?

  33. perlchpr   9 years ago

    Paul's Audit the Fed bill was rejected by the Senate.

    Damnit.

    1. Lee G   9 years ago

      Audit them? Right as they're preparing for another round of bailouts? Are you nuts?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

        QE4... just to get things going again.

  34. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

    In Hong Kong the Yuan overnight borrowing rate has surged BY 53 percentage points to 66% SIXTY-SIX PERCENT

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....ed-to-know

    Shit's going off the hook yo.

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      This is actually a return to normal practices. It probably means that Chinese are mostly lending to Chinese with international banks exiting the immediate market.

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        Interesting, and a bit terrifying. Feels like 2008 before Lehman imploded.

        1. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

          That's what they said

          http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/1.....index.html

  35. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

    Suspected ISIS bombing kills German tourists in Turkey.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35290760

    Somehow, I'm sure a wall/secure border would have saved them. Walls are magical.

    1. Irish ?s ESB   9 years ago

      Cyto, I'm not sure pointing out Turkey's problems with bombings is going to convince people you're right about allowing lots of immigration from that part of the world. Turkey's the least fucked up country in the region and they can't go a month without bombs going off in their capital at this point.

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        The point is that 'secure borders' can't save you. They are a red herring essentially. This is a post-borders world like it or not.

        1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

          So, if walls don't work, what's the next solution people are likely to try? Maybe establish some sort of place where all the members of a uniquely dangerous population can be concentrated?

          Because if you think the answer people are willing to accept on this subject is "Sometimes people just explode. It happens.", I think you will be sadly mistaken.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

        Cytotoxic has posted a couple of articles now which don't do his own argument any good, which I generally agree with.

        He posted a link about how none of the terrorist attacks were by asylum seekers, because several of the attackers had had their asylum applications rejected. The argument seemed to be that the system worked, their applications were rejected, so nothing to see here, the bodies on the ground weren't cause by a refugee.

        1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

          Are you talking about the Paris attacks?

          All of the known Paris attackers were EU citizens, who crossed borders without difficulty albeit registered as terrorism suspects.[107] According to the French prime minister, Manuel Valls, several of the perpetrators had exploited Europe's immigration crisis to enter the continent undetected.[108] At least some, including the alleged leader Abdelhamid Abaaoud, had visited Syria and returned radicalised. Jean-Charles Brisard, a French expert on terrorism, called this a change of paradigm, in that returning European citizens were themselves the attackers. The Los Angeles Times reported that more than 3,000 Europeans have travelled to Syria and joined ISIL and other radical groups.[109]

          link text

          If this is wrong then it's wrong but I doubt it.

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

            No, there was a discussion a while back about the history of recent terror attacks across Europe (or shit, maybe it was Canada) in general, and the article took a tone that 'hey, only yokels say that refugees are prone to terror attacks, and here's proof'. Then the article went on to detail several terrorist attacks that were carried out by refugees whose applications had been denied. I can't remember and I'm too lazy to google it. But I remember asking why if their applications were denied they were wandering about the country? The article didn't bother with those technical details.

            1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

              Was the denial processed before they attacked? If so that's dumb they shouldn't be allowed free reign if they've been denied for a *good* reason.

              1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

                You assume the state wants to use the resources and powers it has to provide security, and not that it wants to gain additional resources and powers by failing to provide security and exploiting the resulting fear and chaos.

        2. PapayaSF   9 years ago

          Or there's the argument: "Those robbers and sex criminals weren't refugees at all! They were Muslim immigrants who have been living in Europe for years!" So much for the "Don't worry, they'll assimilate!" argument....

          1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

            There's this problem for you called "numbers". There are so many more Muslims that have been living in Europe for eons (or are descended from those that have) that the denominator washes out the numerator.

            1. PapayaSF   9 years ago

              Bull. Muslim immigrants have higher percentages of criminals and welfare recipients, even after generations.

  36. Always a Carl, Never a Clyde   9 years ago

    Our latest diversity crisis:

    Why Are So Few Film Critics Female?

    1. Adans smith   9 years ago

      Their all busy nagging a man.

      1. Restoras   9 years ago

        FTW!

        1. PapayaSF   9 years ago

          Kael and Gilliatt died.

  37. Trshmnstr, terror of the trash   9 years ago

    "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. " - T. Jefferson

  38. GILMORE?   9 years ago

    Millenial Activism

    Where - This is News
    and
    This is not

    1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

      Reality is difficult.

      As waffles posted up-thread, Goldman Sach's is obviously responsible.

    2. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

      The second item says Reuters - isn't that news? I'm confused.

    3. straffinrun   9 years ago

      Gilmore skates dangerously close to victim blaming. BTW, those guys should form a lacrosse team.

      1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

        ?

        Why do you hate lacrosse?

        I was just pointing out that Huffpo would run a big "Yay Us!!" piece about brooklyn hipsters....while gang-rapes in brownsville are backpage unmentionables.

        Maybe the contrast should have been something more topical re: "White Women Whines, World Listens".... but i thought people would appreciate the undies-shots

        1. straffinrun   9 years ago

          Running around in your undies can cause rape. Didn't you get the mayor of Cologne's memo? Seriously though, Huffpo never misses the opportunity to demonstrate a lack of ability to prioritize. Give those boys a scholarship to Duke and make them white and you'll see front page coverage.

          1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

            Ahh. I see your lacrosse joke now. That was a layer of metaphor too far for me.

            1. straffinrun   9 years ago

              Gang rape. Lacrosse. The media has burned a permanent neural pathway in my brain.

              1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

                Everyone in my family played lacrosse at the college level.
                (hides face in shame)
                except me. though i had the option.

        2. Rhywun   9 years ago

          Don't lay the no-pants thing on Brooklyn - that stupidity is worldwide.

    4. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

      WTF is up with that dude leaving his daughter. There is no fucking way. They would have to shoot me.

      1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

        Well, apparently he abandoned her to foster care and they had only just reconnected. So, it's not out of character, exactly.

        Certainly not as bad as the couple of stories I read within the past few weeks about white trash ladies who literally helped their sex offender boyfriends rape their teenage (and younger) daughters. One was in C-bus, in fact. If this is a thing now, they should call it "Merkel syndrome".

        1. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

          Yeah,the one in CBus held down her 14 year old and 8 year old daughters to be raped. Oh for an hour with those pieces of shit. WTF is wrong with people.

    5. Rhywun   9 years ago

      "Brownsville has been left behind as Brooklyn has become one of the hottest places to live in the nation," said Jeffries.

      And if Brownsville ever became nice, we wouldn't hear the end of it from this guy and Spike Lee about white people and their fancy dogs.

  39. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

    I am pretty lazy and I still can't post as much as you people by like 4x. I get that John is probably in an institute and has a lot of time with the common use computer but where do the rest of you get that time? Do you have a bag of spare time? Clones?

    1. This Machine Chips Fascists   9 years ago

      This, grasshopper, is the Great Mystery of HnR.

    2. SusanM   9 years ago

      Orphans and Korean sex-slaves save a lot of time with house chores.

  40. RAHeinlein   9 years ago

    Obama offered Biden money to assist dying son's family

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35294097

    1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

      "aint no thing, joe. Just pop on down by the Fed and help yourself. Here's a shovel."

      1. TheZeitgeist   9 years ago

        +1

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

      Weird paint-splatter article.

      The vice-president also said Bernie Sanders was more "authentic" on inequality issues than Hillary Clinton.

      The stars came out and my mother made biscuits.

  41. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

    For you car guys out there. How does the Tesla do in the snow?

    1. Florida Man   9 years ago

      Rufus, I'm concerned for you. The tesla is a car you buy to show people you have money, but no sense.

      1. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

        I wouldn't buy that. Not at that price.

        I want to buy a clown car.

        1. Free Society   9 years ago

          So a Fiat then? The country of origin for that brand makes the worst cars.

          1. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

            Yeah Zagato and Pininfarina had the WORST industrial designers. So much so the Germans ignored them.

            http://bit.ly/1RKr3uc

            And yes, I am looking at a Fiat. Unless I can find an Alfa GTV6 at the right price.

    2. waffles   9 years ago

      I have no personal experience behind the wheel but I have yet to see a Tesla driver who wasn't an absolute pussy bitch in traffic. It's like the opposite of the BMW stereotype. I imagine the AWD Tesla with reasonable tires would drive as well as a powerful Audi in the snow, which is to say, fantastically.

      1. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

        Yeh, good point. Was just curious.

        1. TheZeitgeist   9 years ago

          Tesla Model S 'D' packages have AWD; they are great in snow, electric motors are called 'traction motors' in railroad world for reason. RWD ones are squirrelly like any hi-po car with wide performance tires is going to be, however they are still better than average.

          One area where Teslas have issues in cold are impacts on battery behavior - not all of it negative. Another oddity is cabin in cold environment; think electric space heater with computer-case fans, and all the weight-savings/thin materials becoming apparent noticing how fast said heat seeps out the vehicle.

    3. Restoras   9 years ago

      If you want a car that runs on batteries, go to RadioShack.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

        Boom.

  42. This Machine Chips Fascists   9 years ago

    "Watch Liz Mair battle Ann Coulter over the latter's insane advocacy of Donald Trump."

    You're not the boss of me!

  43. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

    The end of gaming piracy? HELL YEAH

    http://business.financialpost......hats-great

    1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

      why would you care one way or the other?

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        1) Piracy is morally offensive.

        2) If PC games can't be pirated, I believe that will hasten the end of console gaming.

        1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

          Certainly never went the other way when PC piracy was easy and console piracy was harder.

          Anyway, moderate piracy has some hidden benefits -- it helps introduce people to certain series or gaming in general at low cost to themselves, causing them to try things they might otherwise have not, and to become paying customers later (or if not, at least to provide free word-of-mouth to other paying customers).

          This is particularly true of segments where the main reason for piracy is a temporary lack of money. If your broke ass teen or college student pirates or doesn't pirate, it doesn't matter for the immediate bottom line because there was no real opportunity lost. However, if losing access causes them to develop other hobbies, a lot of money might be lost in the future when they're no longer so broke; contrariwise, getting them into the scene might make loyal, paying customers of them once they're grown up.

          1. coloraDOOM   9 years ago

            When I can't demo a game on PC, I will tend to try it out before I buy on steam. I would love to have an hour or two demo before I spend that much money on a game that's sub-par *cough* battlefront *cough*

    2. Ted S.   9 years ago

      The idiot says health care should be free.

    3. kbolino   9 years ago

      Your stupid Canadian website won't load.

      1. kbolino   9 years ago

        So now that I can read the damn thing, it looks like they've managed to frustate, but not end, piracy for at least a month after release. Which is pretty impressive, as far as these things go, but isn't "the end of gaming piracy" practically speaking.

        However, I'll be interested to see if developers and publishers start recouping some of these legendary lost profits.

  44. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Pentagon: 2 US Navy boats held by Iran but will be returned

    1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

      They're just borrowing them. We're pals now, and pals lend each other stuff.

    2. Grand Moff Serious Man   9 years ago

      If it's true that the boats were in Iranian waters than Iran actually responded the way any nation would. Not an act of aggression.

      1. Cytotoxic   9 years ago

        The state of Iran has no rights.

        1. GILMORE?   9 years ago

          This is among the more bizarre and senseless things you've ever said.

          States either "are" (recognized) or "are not" (unrecognized). Governments choose which states to recognize and how to treat them (see: iran vis a vis israel) based on purely political relations, not based on any abstract concept of 'statehood rights'.

          People have rights, but those rights are not magically contingent upon their state of residence.

          The people of iran (to at least some degree) have willingly granted authority to the current government. If you think their government is illegitimate, that's nice - but their opinion matters far more than yours. What you said basically makes no sense.

          1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

            What you said basically makes no sense.

            So, it's a normal Cytotoxic comment?

    3. R C Dean   9 years ago

      I'm a lot less concerned with the boats than I am with the crew.

  45. Agile Cyborg   9 years ago

    A listless and empty demagogue prattling the literal inventions of twelve speech writers into the dank catchment of America's quasi-realities is so fucking unswell.

  46. lafe.long   9 years ago

    The Royal Bank of Scotland: Economists Tell Investors to 'Sell Everything' in Client Note

    "Sell everything except high quality bonds," the note said, warning that the situation is similar to the global financial crisis that occurred in 2008.

    1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

      Obama's term is about to end, so of course they're worried that the era of world prosperity might come to an end as well. /sarc

  47. Rich   9 years ago

    "[She will] not [be] Caucasian," he stressed. "I'd be open to any ethnicity."

    *** facepalm ***

    1. straffinrun   9 years ago

      "She is diverse". And suffers from multiple personality disorder, too.

    2. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

      "CBS announced in October that it is developing a new Nancy Drew series. The drama, which is in development, is described as a contemporary take on the character from the iconic book series. Now in her 30s, Nancy is a detective for the NYPD where she investigates and solves crimes using her uncanny observational skills, all while navigating the complexities of life in a modern world."

      NYPD Drew?

      Alternate joke: No, can't think of a better joke, I'm just not inspired.

      "While Geller said it was too early in the process to explain just what he meant by diverse ? whether Nancy is African-American, Asian-American or Latino"

      [insert tasteless joke here]

      "The character spawned a TV series ? The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries ? that ran for three seasons on ABC in the late 1970s"

      So what did they call themselves - the Nancy Boys?

    3. GILMORE?   9 years ago

      Ahem. "Diverse-American", please

      1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

        Diverse-American, please!

        1. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

          Think of all the check boxes we could get rid of. Are you American or Diverse-American.

  48. R C Dean   9 years ago

    President Dean would just email a SOTU memo over to Congress. What a hideous spectacle this has become.

    1. Notorious UGCC   9 years ago

      The President "shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall deem necessary and expedient..." U.S. Constitution, Art. II, Sec. 3.

      "The President shall from time to time, for the benefit of the Television Cameras, give an Eloquent but ultimately Retarded Speech in front of All the Congresscritters, in which he shall Dispense such Platitudes as he Deems necessary." - Modern gloss on the Constitution.

  49. DEG   9 years ago

    Well, that was brilliant. It's snowing so I finally started replacing the snapped speed selector cable on my snowblower. I put too much torque on a bolt on the assembly that connects the cable to the transmission, and I snapped the bolt. My snowblower is still stuck in its fastest speed. Clearing snow tomorrow morning should be interesting.

    1. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

      Had none of those problems with the neighbor kid. He shoveled and I gave him a 20.

    2. AlmightyJB   9 years ago

      Had none of those problems with the neighbor kid. He shoveled and I gave him a 20.

      1. Rhywun   9 years ago

        One on each side?

  50. sarathomas786   9 years ago

    my neighbor's half-sister makes $83 every hour on the computer . She has been without a job for 9 months but last month her payment was $17900 just working on the computer for a few hours. why not try this out

    +++++++++++++++++ http://www.Wage90.Com

  51. ammy52   9 years ago

    My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do..

    Clik This Link inYour Browser....

    ? ? ? ? http://www.WorkPost30.Com

  52. ammythomas   9 years ago

    my neighbor's half-sister makes $83 every hour on the computer . She has been without a job for 9 months but last month her payment was $17900 just working on the computer for a few hours. why not try this out

    +++++++++++++++++ http://www.Wage90.Com

  53. marybell451   9 years ago

    my neighbor's half-sister makes $83 every hour on the computer . She has been without a job for 9 months but last month her payment was $17900 just working on the computer for a few hours. why not try this out

    +++++++++++++++++ http://www.Wage90.Com

  54. GILMORE?   9 years ago

    That's pretty awesome.

    "My pointless fashion statement is like, totally saving the planet and stuff."

  55. Lee G   9 years ago

    "My first response, on reading the invitation, was to wince," Lindsay says. "I imagined the jabbing needle, hard metal on soft skin. The image that followed ... was of a vast field of oil wells, mechanical heads hammering up and down, devoid of any sense, feeling or soul. The association brought tears to my eyes and confirmed my commitment."

    That is hilariously bad.

  56. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Do you know who else thought a wrist tattoo would signify a commitment to a movement?

  57. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

    She tattooed herself with the "correct" PPM concentration of CO2, defined by the year she was born.

    Has there ever been... in the history of all humanity, a more self-centered, egocentric generation to come out of the post-legalized abortion era?

  58. jesse.in.mb   9 years ago

    You know who else tattooed numbers on people's forearms?

  59. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

    "Skin, needles, ink, rotary machine, latex, plastic, bodies, trauma."

    These materials have come together before in social movement history. From Mary Coble tattooing the names of victims of homophobic hate crimes on her legs, to Wafaa Bilal tattooing dots on his back in a map of victims of the Iraq war (red for American soldiers, nearly invisible UV ink for Iraqis), tattoo as protest ? as bodily direct action ? has painful precedent.

    This may not be the most awful thing I've ever read, but it's up there. Way up there.

  60. DEG   9 years ago

    Must have been wasted.

    That would take a lot of alcohol.

  61. Florida Man   9 years ago

    I liked the Buick from the one pic in the article. Of course nothing beats being there in person to judge the cars.

  62. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

    She's probably aware of it, but I'd bet all the way up to $25 that she's got the facts surrounding it muddled. Her idea of it probably goes something like this:

    Right wing, small-government activists clobbered the German Democratic process and came to power, drastically slashing budgets and taxes and promoting their radical so-called "individual rights" movement. Their calls for limiting the state were an obvious racist dog whistle, allowing them to herd Union Activists into camps, effectively shutting down the burgeoning labor rights movement in Germany, kicking off WWII which led to the occupation of Paris' forward-thinking Left Bank.

  63. Juice   9 years ago

    bodily direct action

  64. Rhywun   9 years ago

    painful precedent

    What a horrible band name.

  65. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    She is going to have a tattoo covering that tattoo within two years.

  66. Homple   9 years ago

    Sean Penn's Chapo article is just as bad.

  67. Rhywun   9 years ago

    I have a few friends with tatts which I presume hold some great "meaning" for them. I have never once bothered to look at them or comment on them in any way that could be misconstrued as approval.

  68. MJGreen - Docile Citizen   9 years ago

    It seems like these people don't stop crying. Everything brings tears to their eyes. Like the understudy in Seinfeld.

  69. RBS   9 years ago

    Overwrought prose is a favorite of theirs. She gets negative points for the lack of profanity though.

  70. GILMORE?   9 years ago

    meow

  71. RBS   9 years ago

    I wonder which factory in China made that pen she's writing with?

  72. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

    Speaking personally, it's not the tattoo I have a problem with, it's the self-ascribed decision that the world must return to zero hour-- the moment she was born.

  73. RBS   9 years ago

    Of course, an actual human dying wouldn't phase them.

  74. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

    FIAT's history is awesome. The body of work is legendary.

  75. Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer   9 years ago

    Sweet! This may be a repost. Because squirrels.

    "Italian cars won in the European Car of the Year annual award one of the most times among other countries (including Fiat most that any other manufacturer) and in World Car of the Year award also."

    http://bit.ly/1J1CIDW

  76. Rhywun   9 years ago

    Yeah, that's especially painful. But I'm just not a fan of "look at me!" in general.

  77. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

    Fix It Again Tony?

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