School Principal Bans Dancing, Blames Form of Entertainment No Living Teen Has Ever Used
Did teens learn about grinding from illicit VHS tapes?


Kids these days: always watching VHS tapes and dancing provocatively and getting into mischief. Thank goodness we have educators like high school principal Chris Record to keep them in line. Record has cancelled the dances at Gorham High School in Gorham, Maine, due to an epidemic of "grinding"—i.e. back-to-front dancing—according to CBS Boston:
Record details to parents exactly what grinding entails, and says it's making dance chaperones uncomfortable.
"Grinding basically involves a girl having her back and buttocks pushed up/pulled up against the boy's groin with the boy's hands on her hips and other places," he writes [in a letter to parents].
He also says younger students have complained about being pressured to participate in grinding. Last year, most students walked out of a homecoming dance after being reminded that grinding was prohibited.
"The following week, GHS was disrupted by an uprising of sorts by the seniors and juniors, demanding that grinding should be allowed," the principal writes.
I admit that the moral panic over grinding has always confused me. Is back-to-front dancing really more suggestive than front-to-front dancing? Why is the latter preferable? I don't get it.
But at least I'm not as out of step with youth culture as Principal Record, who blames grinding culture on a bizarre trio of entertainment ills:
"It is by no means the students' fault, but the dancing they have witnessed on MTV/VHS/movies involves primarily only sexually suggestive grinding," Record writes.
VHS? As in, this? No, I don't think very many kids picked up grinding from VHS tapes. I doubt seriously that a significant number of teenagers has ever seen a VHS tape. It was old technology when I was in high school, and that was 10 years ago.
I presume Record was referring to VH1, a sister channel to MTV, but the mistake does not inspire great confidence that his decision to ban grinding is well-supported by the evidence.
I say let the kids dance. Prohibiting a form of expression that many of the teens clearly want to engage in will only create distrust between the teens and the adults. High schoolers aren't children; in the state of California, they are going to be educated about the proper way to consent to sex. Grinding seems fairly tame by comparison.
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The kids these days. Everyone knows you play chicken with tractors before you dance in protest. SMH.
Mad gif props, Robby.
+1 Men At Work T-Shirt with Ripped Sleeves
Ha!
Trump is on the prom planning committee.
Grinding is what makes dancing fun...
Nothing makes dancing fun.
Dancing is one of the most boring, tedious things in life.
That's why there's alcohol.
I feel the same way, but I wish I didn't. People who are into dancing seem to enjoy it quite a bit.
Well then I won't be asking you out to prom!
That's fine, I didn't want to go anyway!
::runs away crying::
Because everybody knows that chastity belts protect the front and not the back. Duh.
They could start teaching the proper way to consent to grinding. What if the girl never said "yes"? The horror!
By the way, in Mexico, rubbing your junk against a woman's butt is something weirdos do in public buses and the subway. We call it "Llegue" (Yeh-geh) which can be translated to "approach" (from the verb "llegar" - to arrive, arrive to, or approach) and also "hit from behind" (i.e. hitting someone's car from behind.) I see no difference, except in the case described in the article, the females are not going to defend their honor by whacking the weirdos in their heads with their heavy handbags.
It's the girls doing the grinding, I'm told. The guy mostly stands there looking faintly ridiculous while his junk gets twerked.
And the guys don't carry handbags to defend their honor with, so this outrage goes unpunished!
I laughed.
*covers mouth, titters*
Wait, how do you cover your mouth and your titters at the same time?
*swats Hugh with handbag European carryall*
OM, consent is the difference, I think.
I'm reasonably certain no teen has learned anything about dancing or music from watching MTV since MTV hasn't shown anything remotely related to music in 20 years. It is pretty much all reality tv these days.
VH1 is just as unlikely since they rarely show music and 90% of what they do show is targeted at Gen X nostalgia rather than contemporary music.
No, the kids are learning the dance moves from Youtube, Vivo, and a host of similar online sites.
Hell, for the most part my kids don't watch tv any more. Outside of the younger 3 watching My Little Pony that is. They watch Youtube and they binge the occasional series on Netflix (last year it was Arrow and Once Upon a Time, this year it is Supernatural, and Dr Who is a constant)
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I - Love - The - 80's! ?
I'm a Gen Xer and VH1 was already for old people when I was a teen in the late 80's.
I learned how to grind by watching you dad!
I learned it by watching YOU!!!
*runs out of room sobbing*
eww /teenage girl
Can anyone send me a VHS of this 'grinding' dance? I promise to rewind before returning.
Isn't a grinder like a sandwich or something? *cues Jared joke*
*cues narrowed gaze*
When does Jared report?
Where will the federal BOP place him?
If he's at a club-fed, he won't have to worry about sharing space with Jamal and Jesus.
I thought it was for gay dudes looking for casual sex.
Well, on my planet, we have a legend about people like you. It's called Footloose. And in it, a great hero, named Kevin Bacon, teaches an entire city full of people with sticks up their butts that, dancing, well, is the greatest thing there is.
+1
We'll be playing this on VHS at the Student Union.
VH1 still exists? Kids still watch MTV?
Yes. No.
If I'm not mistaken, MTV is watched by desperate parents who think it will help them get in touch with their kids.
It does and they do not.
Why do I suspect that the Principle was expected to chaperone the dances, and it interfered with something he wants to do? Like visit his underaged mistress, or smoke crack?
Look, it's hard to watch some 17 year old douche bag grind on your underage mistress.
Canceling something because being there is a pain in the ass is something that happens a lot, I bet.
I doubt they get paid extra for staying up late on a Saturday night to chaperon a dance.
And, seriously, I'd rather do just about anything than chaperon a high school dance. Can you imagine if they expected you to do that for free?
The fear over grinding has been going on for a long time, too.
Here's a story from more than ten years ago about a school vice principle chaperoning a dance. She took it upon herself to look and check to make sure that everyone was wearing underwear.
http://legacy.utsandiego.com/n.....75890.html
It isn't just the grinding; they just go all River City over anything having to do with high school kids and sex. That's what the sexting thing is all about, too. Wasn't there a moral panic about high school kids and BJ parties a while back?
All that seems especially weird when you get older. When I was in high school, my folks were obsessed with keeping me from getting anyone pregnant. Now that I'm older, the pressure is all to have kids. Screw anybody fertile, for goodness' sake. But why don't you go ahead, get somebody pregnant, and give us some grandkids already?
Just curious: How did the right to a state-sponsored dance at a coercively funded, government-run school become a libertarian issue?
Highlighting that public schooling subjects children to the absurd whims of bureaucrats is an excellent reason for people to support cutting off the funding for such institutions.
Do you want more Trump articles? Because complaining about Rico's fluff stories is how you get more Trump articles.
http://i.imgur.com/2Z1hazS.png
+1 Absurd
On another angle?
Private school dances are generally much more restrictive--because parents want it that way.
I suspect one of the reasons things go on at high school dances that parents don't like is because of the bureaucracies that manage such things. It's just like everything else. School bureaucracies are much less responsive to their constituents than entrepreneurs are to paying customers.
And they're completely arbitrary. One school bans grinding, the school my brother played against last week had their cheerleaders twerking at halftime.
School bureaucracies are much less responsive to their constituents than entrepreneurs are to paying customers.
Wrong. School administrators are already off the ground when the Teacher Union says, "Jump!"
Oh, those constituents.
I thought the article was more about making fun of old fuddy-duddies who don't appreciate teens performing simulated sex acts in the high-school gymnasium.
I thought it was .more about how Soave is a naive moron.
He can say he does not agree with getting upset over grinding, but claiming to not get why someone might think it too risque? Come off it.
That too.
Grinding: nuts to butts on the dancefloor!
I don't get the mechanics of that... Are the butts pre-threaded or is the arrangement self-threading (AKA force-threading)? If not, how do you hold the nuts onto the butts? And do you use Loctite and/or washers, and if so, how many?
I think Principal Senile got VHS confused with VH1.
In other news, doctors, engineers, and other professionals are fleeing ISIS territory in droves
Perhaps they should put up some kind of wall.
Also, for no reason in particular, here is an amputee with a clever tattoo:
http://geekologie.com/2011/06/.....mputee.jpg
Oopsy, Robby noted the confusion. Well, that's what I get for skimming the article instead of reading it.
If you start reading the articles, people will start lumping you in with Hugh and Nikki. You don't want that, do you?
Nobody wants that.
I say let the kids dance. Prohibiting a form of expression that many of the teens clearly want to engage in will only create distrust between the teens and the adults.
Okay. I bet there are a lot of students who wish to "express" their objection to a particular teacher's request by telling her to go fuck herself.
John Lithgow, call your office!
If students really are angry about this Footloose-esque behavior, they should do an angry dance en masse.
Is the Alt-Text referring to "Austin Powers" or the Macarena?
Yes.
Because dancing is meant to me a vague, romantic precursor to sex someday down the road, not a direct imitation of doggy style?
That's apparently what the principal thinks. Many other people seem to disagree.
Prude.
So now we can add Puritan to racist and violent. Nice combo. Seek therapy.
Oh for fuck's sake
Wait, are you pissed because he is too young or to old for you?
Obligatory
I admit that the moral panic over grinding has always confused me. Is back-to-front dancing really more suggestive than front-to-front dancing?
Really Rico? Must I draw a diagram?
needs more youtube
I am afraid to youtube videos for him while at work.
*Makes hand gestures instead*
"It's not the Missionary Position, the way God intends us to do it!"
I am guessing VH1 was autocorrected to VHS.
I think if we spent more time chaperoning high school dances, we'd probably just cancel the damned things. If the kids are going to get naked and rub against each other, I shouldn't have to watch it.
And if I *do* have to watch it, I want some sort of immunity from voyeurism charges.
http://history-is-made-at-nigh.....anned.html
"the waltz is a main source of the weakness of body and mind of our generation"
I learned to dance by watching Soul Train. True story.
RIP, Don Cornelius (pours a sip of Rusty Woodchipper for my homey).
I learned by watching Fred Astaire, and thinking, It will be so cool when I do that.
It wasn't.
Sooooooooul Train !
Cuz I'mma soul train! De-da do-da, de-da d-da!
Wait wait. Nevermind.
I learned to dance by watching national geographic documentaries about african tribes that worshiped anteaters
+1 Mc Dreamy
I never understood why schools had anything to do with dances. How is this relevant to the mission of education? It's almost as stupid as PE. Fuck dancing.
I understand it, I just think it's stupid. In the US, "school" is basically where kids are expected to learn *everything* needed to be a proper member of society. So, anything and everything that could possibly interest a kid is intimately tied to schools - this includes things like sports, clubs, and dances.
Never went to a school dance. Fuck those assholes.
Same.
It was old technology when I was in high school, and that was 10 years ago.
I am a veteran of the VHS/Betamax wars... Get off my fucking lawn!
If he's disturbed by grinding, wait until he finds out about daggering.
(Yes, go ahead and google it.)
I find it hard to care about this story. What does it have to do with free minds or free markets?