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• Ahmed Mohamed, the Texas 9th grader arrested after the homemade clock he brought to school was mistaken for a bomb, is reportedly thinking about transferring to a different school.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

TVThe leading Republican presidential candidates debated for three hours last night at the Ronald Reagan Library in California.

My favorite CNN moderator last night? Trump.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Hello.

South Park was great last night. They nailed it with the PC Principal.

Woo-woo!

[UnCivilServant]

Wait - they're still on the air?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE.

Looks like the roid raged PC principal is here to stay. Will this form their main story arc for this season?

[RBS]

You PC Bro!?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

/dons Oakley sunglasses.

[WTF]

"He's more energetic tonight, I like that."

[Florida Man]

I don't understand why they don't make the mics cut off at 30 seconds instead of letting them yell over each other. Seriously, don't pretend you want serious debate. Hell, just put one mic in the middle of the room and make them fight for it. Then you can wax philosophical the next day how sad it is decorum has faded from American politics. Asses.

[Rich]

This. They lay down the ground rules and then fuck all. No wonder people text while driving.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I say only cut them off at 30 seconds if they're not answering the question or if they're rambling. There were a few times they were giving rare substantial answers only to be cut off in the middle to give Trump time to respond.

[Florida Man]

I also hated the "he said his name rule rule" So 2 people could dominate the night, unless they fucked up and said Paul.

[RBS]

I don't watch debates, I listen to enough idiots at work, what is this rule?

[Rhywun]

Made up out of thin air.

[Florida Man]

If your talking and you say "Ted Cruz has no tax plan...", they would then immediately give Ted Cruz a chance to respond. Unfortunately if you say Trump is a clown, he would also get 30 seconds so it turned into a ping pong match at times.

[Rich]

Good thing no one invoked "SATAN!"

[Florida Man]

I did but no one listens to me...
*sad trombone*

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

We talked about Satan in the comments last night, but it was in regards to an OT ramble about the Steelers and Patriots.

FYI: Satan is NOT a Patriots fan; he is their coach.

[GILMORE?]

""I don't understand why they don't make the mics cut off at 30 seconds instead of letting them yell over each other."

But isn't that how all talk shows these days work?

[Florida Man]

Yes and I hate it.

[Carston]

Because it is the moderators and CNN's intention to allow them to talk over each other and make the candidates seem un-cordial and lacking decorum.

[Lord Humungus]

7-Eleven offers 'Date Night' delivery of ice cream and condoms

The convenience store chain, which earlier this month announced a delivery service in some markets in partnership with startup DoorDash, rolled out its first delivery "convenience pack" options, including the "Date Night Pack."

The Date Night Pack, which costs $20 plus a $2 delivery fee, includes a container of Ben & Jerry's chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream, a Hershey's chocolate bar, a can of Red Bull, an 18-pack of Trident gum and three Trojan Ultra Thin condoms.

Another convenience pack offered by the chain, the "Hangover Pack," contains extra-strength acetaminophen, a fruit punch Gatorade, a large pepperoni pizza and a sandwich containing smoked turkey and pepper jack.

[Monty Crisco]

YOU POSTED THAT YESTERDAY!!!

[greasonable (was sthgrau)]

Perhaps LH is trolling for a date?

[PM]

Hey now, credit where it's due, that was me

[Lord Humungus]

Did not!

[Monty Crisco]

OK, PM did. But you need to pay attention in the future!

[Lord Humungus]

busy day back from the conference ---- and don't tell me what to do!

[Monty Crisco]

I'll tell you what to do and you'll like it!!!

[Lord Humungus]

awww man... *slinks off to bedroom, slams door*

[gaijin]

the "Hangover Pack," contains extra-strength acetaminophen

I will await the first lawsuit of liver failure...they should be sending Ibuprofen...every drunk knows this.

[WTF]

Yeah, acetaminophen on top of alcohol is very dangerous in terms of liver damage.

[Florida Man]

If your liver can't handle it, you're weak and deserve to die.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

But it feels really good.

[The Last American Hero]

I knew a guy that claimed eating a banana preemptively cured or lessened a hangover the next day. It worked about as well as the stimulus. You don't know how bad it would have been without the banana. The hangover was worse than anticipated. I should have had 2 bananas. That sort of thing.

[Lord Humungus]

Best hangover cure is sleep... after steak 'n' eggs, water, and aspirin.

[Citizen X]

Steak 'n' eggs with sriracha plus a frosty glass of kombucha.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Pho. Beef pho.

[Citizen X]

Holy crap yes, how did i forget the pho. WITH SRIRACHA.

[bacon-magic]

Tried pho for the first time...tasted like dishwater. I talked to the Vietnamese lady that served it to me and she instructed me on how to dump Hoison(sic) sauce and Sriracha sauce into it, not bad, still not as good as Tom Kha soup from a Thai place.

[blighted non millenial]

+1 a 24 hour pho joint has saved my life at least once.

[Florida Man]

Hydration is the key to avoiding hangovers. I've only had one hangover and it was a serious bender on a hot day in full sun.

[commodious spittoon]

Beer has water value but water has no beer value.

[Swiss Servator]

"I've only had one hangover"

YOU AREN'T TRYING HARD ENOUGH!

[Florida Man]

You're more than welcome to come down here and try to drink me under the table.

Navy rules, first man to die loses.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

You have no idea what you just did.

[Florida Man]

If I'm to die tell everyone I said "I REGRET NOTHING!!!".

[Lord Humungus]

one hangover

the first time I've ever been disappointed with Florida Man 🙁

[Florida Man]

It's not for lack of trying. They say it is a risk factor for alcoholism because you don't have the negative feedback of a wicked hangover to make you back off your drinking.

[ScoobaSteve]

This only indicates that he stopped drinking once.

[greasonable (was sthgrau)]

indeed

[Crusty Juggler]

Hydrating works for me. Drinking a 32oz sports drink and taking a few 200mg of ibuprofen before I sleep keeps the headaches away.

[BigT]

I thought rough sex was the cure. No?

[Crusty Juggler]

I am too uncoordinated for that after drinking, plus I am fragile.

[Bubba Jones]

Vomiting the night before was always the cure in college.

I no longer drink enough to vomit. And I get more hangovers.

Hmmm.

[Zeb]

I used to be able to say that. I must be getting old.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Presidential guard officers have staged a coup in Burkina Faso.

At least their agents weren't drunkenly whoring it up.

[Drake]

I had to look the place up on Wikipedia. $28 billion economy, 17 million people. Not good.

[Princess Trigger]

Half of them are planning to emigrate to Germany, so it's all good.

[Rich]

*Love* the name of their capital: Ouagadougou.

[commodious spittoon]

1930 Ouagadougou is kinda neat.

[Anomalous]

Is that anything like Ungabunga?.

[Rhywun]

Does this mean we don't have to call it "Burkina Faso" anymore?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

The Peoples Democratic Republic of Upper Voltan Burkina Faso?

[Lee G]

I used to know a guy from BF. Really nice person in general.

[Bee Tagger]

Are Democrats starting to get nervous about Hillary Clinton's chances in 2016?

Yes, regardless of whether those chances are good or bad.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A Seattle police officer has been fired after she arrested an elderly black man for refusing to drop a golf club that he was using as a cane.

I wonder if she has any plans for her eventual back pay.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

30 foot boat.

[Antilles]

Why aren't cops like this arrested, and not just fired? If it hadn't been for the dashcam video that old man would have been sent to jail for 'assaulting' an officer. We peons get jail for filing a false police report--but cops never get punished, even when they clearly lied.

[Monty Crisco]

Martin O'Malley: I REALLY don't want to be President, so here is my electoral suicide note to disgust every legal gun owner in the country!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/.....index.html

What the fuck?!!? Most of the shit he is proposing is ALREADY LAW.

"I would set a national age requirement of 21 for all handgun purchases and handgun possession."
It was already 21 in the state I lived in. Probably true for a lot of states.

"Under my plan, a background check would be required for each and every gun purchase."

Where can I buy a gun without a background check? I keep hearing about this yet every time I buy a new gun I have to go through another background check.

"?so I would take steps to require safe storage of guns at home."

Good luck with that. Wonder how enforcement is effected?

"I would fight to close loopholes that allow domestic abusers to own and purchase guns. "

Pretty sure the Lautenberg Amendment already does this. You can't fucking join the military if you have a domestic abuse CONVICTION on your record, FFS!!

"And to shut down the pipeline of illegal guns that flow from states with weak gun laws to states with strong ones..."

Ah, I think I see where he's going with this?Everything FEDERALIZED. End states' rights?.

"By establishing a national firearms registry?"

Well, just by writing these words, I'm pretty sure his chances of being elected spiraled down to NEGATIVE zero.

[Just say Nikki]

Where can I buy a gun without a background check? I keep hearing about this yet every time I buy a new gun I have to go through another background check.

Come on, you know that's only true if you by from an FFL.

I mean it might cover the vast majority of purchases but we don't have to pretend private sales don't exist.

[Florida Man]

Also you don't have to be 21 to buy a handgun unless you go to FFL.

[Zeb]

Don't most states require handgun sales to go through a FFL?

[Florida Man]

Maybe, but not here.

[Zeb]

Neat.

[db]

You still are legally required to do the background check, at least for handguns in Pennsylvania.

[Florida Man]

Not here. You wanna buy some gunz.
*opens trench coat*

[Restoras]

*whispering*
You gotta .357 magnum with a 4 inch barrel?

[Florida Man]

Actually I do. Ruger GP100. Fantastic weapon.

[Restoras]

I was looking at the S&W 586. Have you ever shot one? What's the recoil like on your Ruger?

[Florida Man]

The Ruger is built like a tank so most of the recoil is soaked up. I had a SW model 14 that was very nice as well. The rule of thumb is SW are more refined while Rugers are more rugged, so if you want a house/range gun the smiths are great. If you want a hunting/hiking gun I say Ruger.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

The 586 is a fine weapon, nice to shoot.

You can fire .38 out of it for cheaper and less recoil, but gun will hold up fine unless you start firing +P+ ammo out of it with regularity (the frame can stretch).

[Riven]

I love my SP101--so handy!

[Florida Man]

I have 3 of those. .1 in 22 and 2 in .327 mag. I'm sad the .327 mag didn't really catch on.

[Riven]

.357 mag FTW. I call it my home defense model. 🙂

I did not even know there was a .327 mag, so I'm thinking I'm part of the problem.

[Florida Man]

The idea was to deliver 6 shots instead 5 in the SP 101 but with same energy as the .357. I really like it because you can shoot .32 short, .32 long, .32 mag and .327 mag. Only Ruger, charter and smith picked up the cartridge but it never really found a market.

[Riven]

Ooh, gosh, it really would be nice to have that extra shot. I mean, I can still run .38 specials through it, so it's still not too economically debilitating to take to the range, but I would never carry it even though it's relatively compact and reliable.

Then again, my prospective carry gun only has 8 rounds, so maybe I shouldn't even be complaining.

[Florida Man]

Realistically, most gun fights are 3 rounds, 3 seconds and within 3 meters. The odds of needing those extra rounds are slim, so I say the most important factor of a carry gun is how likely are you to carry it. If it's too big or uncomfortable to carry it doesn't matter how many rounds it carries.

[Riven]

You make a good point. I'm at the point where I'm considering off-body carry (in my purse) because body concealment doesn't seem feasible.

I got the shield thinking I might be able to thigh carry or something, but now that I'm considering carrying in my purse, I feel like I could get away with a full-sized handgun instead of the compact shield.

... I briefly considered a chromed out, pearl gripped, .50 desert eagle... Now I'm considering a double stacked 1911, but I figure I'll try out a few at the local range before I go making any decisions.

[Florida Man]

They make purses designed with carry in mind. The only issue with that is I know many ladies like to match their purse with their outfit, so that means buying multiple carry purse or using a standard purse which is less than ideal. Also you will need to be mindful of purse snatchers and keeping your purse close to you at all times. It's definitely more of a challenge for women to carry because your clothes are more form fitting than guys.

[Riven]

Psh--I have one single purse at a time. It either matches or it doesn't, but IDGAF. The main reasons I'm considering purse-carrying are: 1) I always have my purse. Always. I almost feel nekkid without it. And B) my wardrobe consists almost entirely of body conforming dresses with the occasional skirt/blouse combo.

So... yeah... challenging, for sure.

[Florida Man]

Then your choice of sidearm is nearly limitless and it sounds like purse carry is a great option for you.

[Restoras]

my wardrobe consists almost entirely of body conforming dresses

Go on...

[Restoras]

Now I'm considering a double stacked 1911, but I figure I'll try out a few at the local range before I go making any decisions.

I have two pistols, a Remington 1911 .45ACP and a Sig P226 with .40SW and .357 Sig barrels.

I am a significantly more accurate shooter with the 1911 than the P226, regardless of the caliber.

Sig makes a .45 ACP with an 8 round magazine and a 4" barrel that I think would make a good carry firearm, at least for me, but I am still a novice shooter.

[Riven]

I've not had a lot of experience with Sig myself, but I've heard a lot of good things. I did have the opportunity to shoot a pretty stock/simple .45 acp 1911, and I found it was fairly accurate for me--even if it barely fit in my hand.

I'd say I'm definitely still squarely in novice territory, but the more I learn and the better I get, the more inclined I am to think I still belong there. Then again, I spend my weekends watching USPSA or IDPA competitions, so maybe I'm being too harsh.

[Florida Man]

I own multiple Sigs. Great guns. One of the things I consider is how a gun fits in my hands. If it's not comfortable I move on. I carry a walther PPS in 9mm because it's comfortable, concealable and I can shoot it both accurately and rapidly.

[Riven]

That's the hard part for me--finding a full-size gun that feels good in my tiny woman hands.

It's too bad that I haven't heard more good things about Kimber; their guns are just so pretty

[Florida Man]

Lol. I have a kimber. I like it but it is over priced.

[Riven]

Every time I go to Scheel's to look at guns... I lust after the Kimber display. Ugh. Everything is just so shiny and beautiful.

[Restoras]

They are pretty but you can get a stainless Sig that's pretty too. The 220 might fit in your hand nicely - better than the double stacks, check it out!
http://www.sigsauer.com/Catalo.....nless.aspx

[Restoras]

Thanks, all.

Re: +P ammo, are you referring to .38+P, or .357+P (if there is such a thing and forgive my novice question...)

[Florida Man]

.38 +p. Although most ammunition manufactures make reduced recoil .357 mag defensive loads, I recommend buying 3 different defensive loads and doing a range day and see what you are most accurate/comfortable with. Hornady, federal, Speer, really any American company make a plethora of choices.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Any round can be loaded to +P or +P+, although I don't know of any manufacturer that sells .357 in a +P.

In a .38 +P means up to a 9% increase in cylinder pressure over standard .38.

A +P+ .38 round exceeds standard pressure by up to 29% and can be hard on the frames of most guns.

I believe +P+ can be a lot harder on the gun than magnum loads because the peak pressure spikes higher from the shorter cartridge.

[Restoras]

Interesting. What is the advantage to using +P ammo over standard ammo - is it simply greater muzzle velocity and energy on the target? Are wound cavities larger?

[Florida Man]

Higher energy. The design of the projectile is going to determine cavity size. I think shot placement is more important than anything, so choose something you are comfortable with. If you blind and deafen yourself with the first shot, follow up is going to be more difficult. Comfort is personal though, so your choice might be different from me or Riven or Bob's.

[Suthenboy]

How would one enforce private sellers conducting background checks?

[Monty Crisco]

Same way you enforce "safe storage" gun laws.

Random house-to-house inspections with SWAT teams!

[Zeb]

You been talking to Tulpa again?

[kbolino]

LAW AND ORDER

[db]

You can't. But if someone gets caught committing a crime and the gun can be traced back to you...then you have little hope.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Easy... You owtlaw private sales.

[Restoras]

It's just more magical thinking.

Progtards do truly and honestly believe that by passing just the right law, properly worded and crafted, they can change human behavior. Criminals will suddenly and magically stop being criminals and society can progress forward.

[Antilles]

It's not about stopping criminals. It's about using the law as a cudgel to punish the people they don't like. In this case, anyone who wishes to exercise their 2nd Amendment right to own a gun.

[Drake]

Has he ever read the Constitution?

[Citizen X]

No, why?

[Restoras]

That old thing? No way. To Progtards that damn thing is the spoiler of all their fantasies and they all do there level best to ignore it whenever possible.

It's almost as if the Framers looked at the past, saw human nature for what it really is, and crafted a document that would thwart authoritarian government of any kind, no matter how prettily it dresses itself up.

[Monty Crisco]

"It's almost as if the Framers looked at the past, saw human nature for what it really is, and crafted a document that would thwart authoritarian government of any kind, no matter how prettily it dresses itself up."

You might be on to something. Hmmmm...
I find your ideas interesting and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter...

[Citizen X]

Too bad it's so easy for authoritarians to just ignore the thing completely.

[Elspeth Flashman]

Sniff. You made me think of simpler times.
On a side note I volunteered for Constitution Day today. It was fun. I am not sure a fifth grader can really grasp separation of powers though.

[Restoras]

I am not sure a fifth grader can really grasp separation of powers though.

Maybe some can but most can't. The nuances of checks and balances, and why they are necessary to begin with, have been challenging to explain to my kids when they have asked me about them fro their school assignments.

[Brian]

Progressives are the kind of people who would love to tax churches, and would squeal with glee if religious freedom was removed from the constitution.

Then, when they found themselves governed by their free choice of either Christian or Muslim theocracies, they wouldn't be able to connect the dots.

[Restoras]

"?so I would take steps to require safe storage of guns at home."

I'm in the middle of dealing with this right now.

In NY, when you own five or more handguns, the state requires an inspection of the home to ensure there is safe storage. Meaning, a safe that is bolted to the floor/wall. You have to call the county and make an appointment for the inspection - which will be several weeks wait and require you to take a day off from work. Then, after you get the sign off, it'll be another several weeks wait for your amended license to arrive in the mail - at which point you can go to y our FFL and take possession of your property.

If I had know there was a five handgun threshold I wouldn't have bought the fifth one. Fucking tyrants.

[Monty Crisco]

"In NY..."

There's your problem right there...

[Restoras]

Yup.

[Bee Tagger]

Ahmed Mohamed, the Texas 9th grader arrested after the homemade clock he brought to school was mistaken for a bomb, is reportedly thinking about transferring to a different school.

What time is it? Time to get a new school.

[WTF]

Ahmed Mohamed? Well, if he didn't want to get arrested, he shouldn't have gone around with a terrorist name!

[Fist of Etiquette]

It's an interesting dilemma for the new school. Support their sister school in looking like racist reactionary fucks to all the world or come off as an enlightened alternative.

[Old Man With Candy]

Meet the new school.
Same as the old school.

[Lord Humungus]

Shut up and sing syndrome: Why do fans hate it when pop stars get political?

Indie rock band Speedy Ortiz recently set up a phone hotline that fans can call if they feel unsafe at a show or experience harassment or intolerance. "If your idea of fun is making a bigoted joke at a show, like, maybe you deserve to be policed a little bit," frontwoman Sadie Dupuis told Noisey. "I just don't see how presenting an option to help keep people safe subtracts from fun in any way, unless your idea of fun is to oppress the other person." Both Janelle Mon?e and Prince released powerful protest songs paying tribute to victims of police brutality; the former referenced the Black Lives Matter movement on NBC's Today Show, before (distressingly) seeming to be cut off. (A spokesperson clarified later this was not the case.) And then there was D'Angelo's striking Saturday Night Live performance, during which he memorialized both Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner.

[WTF]

Saint Trayvon of the Purple Drank! Another innocent black child gunned down by a racist white Hispanic!

[PM]

Ask the author his opinion of Toby Keith.

[Atanarjuat]

Toby Keith is a lifelong Democrat, and I saw an interview where he was kind of dismayed at all the hate he gets from fellow celebrities.

[Medical Physics Guy]

I'm triggered by shitty imitation-90s-indie-band-guitar. Should I call their hotline?

*goes back to listening to drill music*

[Monty Crisco]

SJWs in porn and porn's "race problem".

"Top performers, including James Deen, say female stars routinely avoid or charge more for scenes with black men."

http://www.vocativ.com/news/22.....e-problem/

HOW DARE THEY!!!!

I wonder if James Deen ever stops to consider that the SJWs (that he apparently wants to be) are FAR MORE opposed to free expression than, say, the religious conservatives that he probably thinks want to put an end to porn.

And then at the end, one of the main guys bitching about racism sums it up with "?thing is, porn is a fast food model. We wouldn't make the things if people weren't buying the things," Mod says. "When people want highly problematic racialized content, people make those scenes?and they do really well."

Jesus, some people who get it STILL DON'T GET IT!!!

[Lord Humungus]

I've uh, heard that any number of call girls/escorts refuse black men too.

[WTF]

Because they're bad tippers?

[Monty Crisco]

JUST THE TIP!!!

AMIRITE?!?!?

[Florida Man]

In "whores glory" the Thai girls didn't like the African customers. They said they were too rough.

[Just say Nikki]

Actually it sounds like he gets it perfectly well. He thinks the consumers of porn are racist/race-fetishist dicks.

in monetary terms, these agents, performers and producers are saying that simply having sex with a black man is about 43 percent more difficult?or more taboo, or both?for the actress in the scene than it is for her to have two penises inside her at the same time.

I mean...that is ridiculous.

[Monty Crisco]

Yeah. Crazy how people want what they want.

"What most people really object to when they object to a free market is that it is so hard for them to shape it to their own will. The market gives people what the people want instead of what other people think they ought to want. At the bottom of many criticisms of the market economy is really lack of belief in freedom itself."
? Milton Friedman, Wall Street Journal, May 18, 1961

You can apply all the quotas, sensitivity training and oversight you want to PORN, darling Nikki, but people are still going to want what they want. The black chick in the article that says that it "seems" like some people think blond women are more marketable than black women? Well, its because THEY ARE.

[Just say Nikki]

And why does that make it wrong for the people who work on it not to want to serve racist interests?

They don't need sensitivity training. Some of them are already more sensitive than their audience.

[Monty Crisco]

I'm all for people working on what they want to work on with no coercion for anyone. That includes not badgering women into sleeping with people they don't want to sleep with or trying to shame them by calling them racist.

I'm also not a believer in the perfectability of human nature. Or accountability for tastes.

And porn is all about personal preferences, and - as the gentleman noted in the article - what sells.

[Just say Nikki]

That includes not badgering women into sleeping with people they don't want to sleep with or trying to shame them by calling them racist.

None of the women in the article were named?none of the agents were even named, and they got way more of the shaming. You're just prohibiting activism in this space. Is something special about calling people "racist," or are you not allowed to call someone's work practices unethical under any circumstances? Can't call an industry corrupt? Can't complain that some industry players are pandering to base instincts? Give me a break. Any of that shit is allowed and there is zero coercion happening here.

[commodious spittoon]

Maybe it's a racial issue, but it's also not just watching people fuck. To some extent consumers project themselves into the scene. And as a white man that's easier with white performers than with black. That could well be a racial issue, but I'd be very surprised if racial preference is any different for black consumers. And since white consumers likely make up a bigger market share in absolute numbers and relative spending, it behooves actresses to produce scenes with white actors. Deen can denigrate racist white men for their sexual proclivities if he likes, but it seems like tilting at windmills.

[Monty Crisco]

"Can't complain that some industry players are pandering to base instincts? "

Well, what the fuck do you think the purpose of PORN is? I'm all about it!

[Just say Nikki]

Enjoying sex is morally equivalent to enjoying negative racial stereotypes about black people?

Why should only some porn performers' morality be respected?

[commodious spittoon]

Absent the arguments against racial cuck crap (which I find pretty nauseating, tbh), is there a specific argument against white performers responding to market demand from white consumers? Because it seems like Deen conflated the former with the latter to improve his argument.

[Just say Nikki]

You can't imagine specific moral arguments against creating media in which black man-white woman sex comes off as more taboo than double penetration?

[commodious spittoon]

If you're calling on me to defend consumer preferences, well, de gustibus and all that. It seems pretty inevitable that the people with the greater number and more disposable income will tend to predominate the market, and pretty innocent to suggest that ethnic groups prefer fantasies involving their own ethnicity. And evidently there's some bleedover that exoticizes interracial coupling, but it's not as popular. But it all seems pretty incomparable.

[The Shrubber's Woodchipper]

You can't imagine specific moral arguments against creating media in which black man-white woman sex comes off as more taboo than double penetration?

I used to think the 'Nikki is the worst' was just some running gag.

Here you want to use the SJW's tactic of hierarchy of victimization in order to determine one's position on a specific issue. Are you really trying to claim that there is some moral significance where one pegs their taboo meter when comparing interracial sex and DP?

If it makes you think any better of me, I'm white and have had sex with black women. I've never engaged in DP, mostly because I'm not interested in a Devil's Threesome. I don't know where you would want to rank me in your sexual taboo scale, and frankly don't care.

[Just say Nikki]

I'm not talking about a "hierarchy of victimization." I think it's perfectly reasonable to criticize porn based explicitly on negative racial stereotypes of black men.

[The Shrubber's Woodchipper]

It's an analogy, not a simile. You think there's some moral significance to one's taboo ranking of interracial sex. Or that some people may use race in their consideration.

You have obviously given this topic more thought than anyone else here thinks it deserves.

[Monty Crisco]

Why the fuck do you care how other people enjoy sex? I can enjoy masturbating to burning crosses if I want.

And if the guy didn't want to do the scene, then HE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

And take your morality and shove it up your ass. I don't give a fuck about other people's "morality" (especially SJWs) and sure as fuck don't want it forced on me.

[Just say Nikki]

Why the fuck do you care how other people enjoy sex? I can enjoy masturbating to burning crosses if I want.

And if the guy didn't want to do the scene, then HE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

And take your morality and shove it up your ass. I don't give a fuck about other people's "morality" (especially SJWs) and sure as fuck don't want it forced on me.

You clearly do care about other people's morality, and about SJWs' specifically, because you posted this story. Why did you post it?

The guy didn't do the scene and that's an integral part of what you are bitching about.

[Monty Crisco]

"You clearly do care about other people's morality, and about SJWs' specifically, because you posted this story. Why did you post it?"

I posted it because I don't want them foisting their morality on me. That was the point, that you so CLEARLY missed. THEY are the ones doing the condemning here - not me. They are the ones lobbing epithet because of people's preferences - not me.

I will reiterate this quote that you apparently didn't even glance at:

The market gives people what the people want instead of what other people think they ought to want. At the bottom of many criticisms of the market economy is really lack of belief in freedom itself.

[Just say Nikki]

I posted it because I don't want them foisting their morality on me. That was the point, that you so CLEARLY missed. THEY are the ones doing the condemning here - not me. They are the ones lobbing epithet because of people's preferences - not me.

So...you are condemning them because you disagree with their morality. That is how it works.

I will reiterate this quote that you apparently didn't even glance at:

The market gives people what the people want instead of what other people think they ought to want. At the bottom of many criticisms of the market economy is really lack of belief in freedom itself.

Producers also have freedom. Not everyone needs to mindlessly create whatever the market wants just because there's money in it.

Guess what? There's a lot of market demand for the state. I think we should stop condemning anyone who works for the state, because after all, they're just providing the slaving services that other people want.

[Monty Crisco]

You are off your fucking meds on this. How the fuck does "morality" enter into it unless their "morality" is to try to coerce me to like something I don't like? Which is exactly what they are doing by calling people racist and exactly what you are supporting. How the fuck does appealing to someone's "morality" even come into play in a libertarian world?!?!

"Not everyone needs to mindlessly create whatever the market wants just because there's money in it."

Yeah, kinda can't believe you could type this with a straight face and think it is a valid argument. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THEY ARE PRODUCING PORN FOR?!?!? To help the homeless?!

Call me when the shuttle lands, Nikki...

[Tonio]

Well, black man on white woman porn is said to be very profitable. I suspect because that violates a long-standing taboo, particularly in the South. I seem to recall stats of porn search terms being posted here and black-on-white was particularly popular in the South.

[Bubba Jones]

I think it's about the ENORMOUS COCK stereotype.

Same reason they make the mega dildos in black.

[Monty Crisco]

I would hate it if people stereotyped me as having an enormous cock.

Must be horrible.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Yeah, but it's 2 white dicks.

[Rhywun]

highly problematic racialized content

Wut?

[Just say Nikki]

Cuck porn where they want the white guy to shout, "I don't want you to have his black babies!"

[Rhywun]

I'll be in my bunk.

[Florida Man]

It's fantasy, who cares. Do you think in FemDom the girls go apologize later for all the mean things they said?

[Just say Nikki]

It's fantasy, who cares. Do you think in FemDom the girls go apologize later for all the mean things they said?

The performer cared. He didn't want to do it.

[Florida Man]

Then he shouldn't have done it.

[Monty Crisco]

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

Take THAT, Nikki!!

[Just say Nikki]

He didn't do it.

And when someone wrote an article about it, everyone here jumped all over it because YOU CAN'T CALL PEOPLE RACIST.

[Monty Crisco]

You shouldn't call people racist when it comes to sexual preferences is the actual argument, I believe. He was trying to SHAME women into sleeping with people they didn't want to sleep with. How the fuck can you support that?

[Just say Nikki]

You shouldn't call people racist when it comes to sexual preferences is the actual argument, I believe. He was trying to SHAME women into sleeping with people they didn't want to sleep with. How the fuck can you support that?

Check your premises. There's no evidence any of this has to do with the women's "sexual preferences." There's no evidence they want or don't want to "sleep with" any of the people involved. There's evidence they want more money to have performative sex with certain other performers because the industry has put actresses' careers on a trajectory where having sex with a black guy is the "worst" thing you can do. Whether that's a market-driven effect or not, some performers and creators think it's racist and distasteful. They're trying to change things.

And you have a huge problem with that.

[Florida Man]

The market creates a demand and it gets filled. Trying to stop racial preference in porn seems to me to be the same moral crusade as trying to get people to stop eating fast food.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

It gets filled....

[Florida Man]

Yeah it does Pl?ya! Woo!

[Monty Crisco]

"The market gives people what the people want instead of what other people think they ought to want. At the bottom of many criticisms of the market economy is really lack of belief in freedom itself."

You're a fucking idiot and maybe you should check your premises. Like, start with refuting the statement above.

"They're trying to change things.

And you have a huge problem with that."

I could give a shit about that. I wish them good luck. There is no accounting for taste and people are going to like what they like.

[Just say Nikki]

I could give a shit about that. I wish them good luck. There is no accounting for taste and people are going to like what they like.

Right. That's why you posted the article.

[Monty Crisco]

Maybe you should have posted the article in order to talk about how RIGHT they are and that porn DOES have a race problem. After all, you agree with the fucking SJWs and their "morality"...

[Crusty Juggler]

Cuck porn

Way to light the "Trump suppoter" signal. SMH.

[commodious spittoon]

You know, for a group who's obsessed with the Strong Leader-type who'll lead America out of the morass and into the sunlit uplands, the Trumpaloes seem like they may be projecting just a wee bit with the cuck obsession.

[GILMORE?]

Someone get Chris Rock in here to explain

[GILMORE?]

""charge more ""

Why do you make them sound like whores, James?

Its not that they charge more... its that producers pay more because producers can sell it for more.

Apparently they sort-of-understand that, but still call it ""highly problematic racialized content""

I insist that James Deen do a gay scene with a midget to atone for his stupidity.

[GILMORE?]

Scratch that, midget DP/spit-roast. He can handle it.

[Antilles]

Haven't you heard it's racist to not be attracted to someone of another race? Just like not being attracted to your same gender is homophobic. Keep up, people!

[SugarFree]

It is also racist to be attracted to someone who is not your race.

[Antilles]

Yes, I've heard of this too.

Bottom line: white people can't win no matter what they do.

[Free Society]

White people just need to castrate themselves and jump off a cliff. The survivors will have been purged of their racism and once all the white people are gone, the world will be free of racist bigotry. That's the only way we can proceed and not be racists.

[Certified Public Asshat]

I know Gillespie is furiously typing up his next "Why South Park is the Most LIBERTARIANEST TV Show Ever" article, but last night's was pretty good.

[Monty Crisco]

UNDERRATED LIBERTARIAN MOVIE: The Penguins of Madagascar

Sample dialog:
Private: A vending machine?
Skipper: Well, not just any vending machine, Private. The last remaining home in America's nanny houses for the remaining of those succulent and chemically-hazardous bits of puffed heaven called...
Private: [gasps] Cheesy Dibbles!

Kowalski: This plane may be headed to France...
Skipper: France?!? Not with their tax rates!!!

[Florida Man]

Nice. I'm assuming the cheesy dibbles is an allegory to heroin, right?

[Monty Crisco]

Maybe butt sex.

[Florida Man]

How are you going to put butt sex in a vending machine?

...seriously how uh, how do we do that?

[commodious spittoon]

Why pay when you can have it free?

[Florida Man]

Pass.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Heh. I watched that movie at the theater with my kid.

[Monty Crisco]

I make weekly viewings of it on Netflix a priority.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The United States has agreed to talks with Russia over Russian military support of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

How dare they fight against ISIS?

[WTF]

More foreigners doing the jobs Americans won't do.

[GILMORE?]

Well, the subtle distinction is that they're fighting alongside the Syrian Army...whereas, in theory, we were trying to aid the "Syrian Rebels" that aren't ISIS, to help them eliminate ISIS, so they can go back to fighting the Syrian Army....who we were were pretending not to be fighting ourselves, even though we were arming the rebels....

you're basically right at this point = Russia is going to convince the US that Assad is in fact the better of the viable options at this point. The US will pretend that this was the idea all along, and throw the FSA and other 'rebels' we've supported to the wolves. because that's how we roll.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Well to be fair, Assad is a dick, but he was a stable dick.

See RPs comments last night about Iraq for context.

[Bee Tagger]

The leading Republican presidential candidates debated for three hours last night at the Ronald Reagan Library in California.

And you idiots watched it.

[Medical Physics Guy]

The two most talented communicators were, I thought, Fiorina and Rubio. I thought either of them are sure to smoke Hillary in the general.

I wish the two most talented candidates were not two of the most paternalistic, but they would still beat a Democratic administration.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I agree. Fiorina has to smile more though.

[WTF]

She has a bad case of Resting Bitch Face.

[Medical Physics Guy]

It's a scary world out there. She's gonna need that face if she's veep or prez someday.

[commodious spittoon]

There's no reason to shame her. It's a legitimate condition.

[allie]

Nah. If she comes off as too feminine or happy, the progs will be writing story after story about how she's not a #RealWoman the same way well-spoken black Republican men aren't true blacks.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Fiorina yes, but I didn't see that with Rubio.

[Raven Nation]

Not me. I read the awesome 1k+ comment thread at Reason but not a second of the debate.

[PM]

Porn's Race Problem

The last four times porn star James Deen tried to cast a black male performer in a scene for his website, the female star or her agent refused. In one case, an agent using the shorthand for "interracial" texted him to say that his client "does not do IR yet." In another, Deen asked up front via text message whether a female performer had "issues with black dudes." She wrote back, "Personally no. Sexually, I'd rather not at this time lol." He responded: "Racist," then added, "I will find someone else for this scene." She tried to save face, writing, "I'm only 5 months in. Havnt done IR yet."
...
"It's gross and racist, and I'm just sick of it," says Deen. "It's rampant shit that's making it really difficult to actually get any sort of interesting scenes or to actually have a diverse group of performers because what ends up inevitably happening is every scene just turns into a bunch of white people and it's getting really frustrating."

[Illocust]

So why doesn't he cast from the start saying what he wants? Instead of picking the actress then telling her what you want, advertise what you want and pick the actress from those who apply. Seriously man, who doesn't tell people what they are auditioning for.

[Just say Nikki]

He is telling people what they're auditioning for, and they don't want to audition.

[Illocust]

Ah, nvm then.

[Suthenboy]

My impression is that they hire a batch of actors and then do marathon filming making multiple movies in one go. Those different movies all call for different things.

But yeah, he should give them a list of all of the requirements beforehand. Somehow though, I don't think we are talking about a brain trust here.

[Illocust]

It does seem a bit like he's purposefully trying to set up a gotcha moment by not letting them know ahead of time. A lot of people will go along with things that they wouldn't normally because they are already there and agreed, but from the article it seems porn actresses are a different breed in that aspect (apparently they'll call a halt to things even if they've already shot a couple scenes).

[Florida Man]

My respect for porn actors just went up.

*cross legs, leans forward*

[Illocust]

I know you were probably joking, but my respect for these women did go up when I read about them doing things like this. That kind of spine is something I wish I saw more of.

[Florida Man]

I was serious. I just like to make with the jokes too. I like strong, competent women. I never got the acting stupid to attract men thing. I find it irritating.

[Just say Nikki]

Yes, the kind of spine it takes to maintain the taboo against interracial sex. It's even naughtier than DP! Now that takes backbone.

[Illocust]

The spine to tell someone who's paying you that they can take their money back, you don't want to do what they want you to do? Yes, that is spine Nikki. This is what 'my body, my choice' actually looks like.

As I'm sure these women would tell you, they don't owe you or anybody else sex. If you want black man on white woman porn you can either pony up enough to make it worth their while or put your ass on camera.

[Just say Nikki]

They didn't tell anyone to take their money back, because no matter how many times you say it, they weren't misled about anything. They simply chose not to take jobs.

And no, that really doesn't take a lot of spine, and it's also not about owing anyone sex. I'm glad you managed to turn an industry critique into a made-up story about feminism though.

[Illocust]

In the article, they quoted a black male actor talking about how in the past he had female actresses call a halt to a shoot after several scenes had already been shot, because they didn't realize he was going to be black until he actually showed up (they thought he was latino).

[Red Rocks Rockin]

They simply chose not to take jobs.

"White porn actresses set their performance rates and job choices based on their personal preferences. Here's why that's a problem."

[ant1sthenes]

By "maintain the taboo", you mean, not want to have sex with people of other races?

'"Personally no. Sexually, I'd rather not at this time lol."' doesn't sound like someone deliberately choosing to maintain a social tradition, it sounds like someone who doesn't really want to do something for reasons of personal preference. It might be racist, but by the same logic, being gay is sexist.

[Just say Nikki]

What ever gave you the impression there were people who didn't know ahead of time? He's talking to people's agents while casting movies, and they charge higher rates for scenes with black men when they're willing to do them at all, because the whole industry is set up with black man/white woman as the biggest taboo--bigger than double penetration.

[GILMORE?]

I don't do DP either. Does that make me elitist as well as racist?

[Tonio]

It's the industry responding to the culture in which it operates (also, 9:36 above).

[Old Man With Candy]

There seems to be a rather extensive knowledge here about casting practices for porn. You are The Worst, so we expect that. Illocust's observation is more of an open question.

[UnCivilServant]

He sounds like scum who needs to be driven from the business.

There needs to be transparency in business transactions. You can't change the terms after an agreement, or drop surprise information regarding work conditions after things start.

[Tonio]

So, if I hire an actress for a project I represent as a childrens bible story, and it later turns out to be an anti-muslim screed there's a problem?

[Old Man With Candy]

Does she have to fuck a black guy? That's the key question.

[UnCivilServant]

Yes, Tonio, you misrepresented the work, so there is a problem.

[Just say Nikki]

And James Deen didn't misrepresent the work. That's completely made up.

[Crusty Juggler]

Why is everyone so confused by this?

[Illocust]

Because the article doesn't make it clear how far along in the process Deen was when the actresses found out it was IR. It's not helped along by him saying that later on he asked one of the girls 'upfront' if she was willing to do this, which implies he had waited to tell the others what was expected.

A little bit of confusion might also be from the other person being interviewed who is a black male actor, and he's telling a couple stories where the actresses didn't realize his race until he got to the set (not his fault, he sent a picture of himself, he just can be mistaken for latino).

[Monty Crisco]

HAHAHA. Beatcha to it!!!

[PM]

That's what she said?

[The Shrubber's Woodchipper]

It's racist for a white woman to refuse sex with a black man. He should use that as his defense for why he raped her - He was fighting racism!

[Illocust]

That's another thing. Haven't feminists been trying to make the case that pressuring (asking more than once) is equivalent to rape recently. How come Deen is getting a pass for trying to publicly pressure women into having sex with men they don't want to?

[Crusty Juggler]

Fun fact: James Deen starred in a mainstream (as in not pornography) movie co-starring Lindsey Lohan, which was written by Bret Easton Ellis and directed by Paul Schrader. Note that I am not sharing the title of the movie, because I care about all of you.

[Tonio]

Just because it wasn't sexually explicit doesn't mean it wasn't porn...

[GILMORE?]

It was also terrible

[Not a Libertarian]

It's gross and racist, and I'm just sick of it

OK James Deen, to prove how important this issue is, why don't you have sex with a black guy in a scene?

[gaijin]

cause he is a homophobe

[Monty Crisco]

LMFAO

[Rhywun]

BURN

[Tonio]

Well done, NaL.

[Rhywun]

James Deen sounds like a dick. And pretends not understand that most people like to stick with their "own".

[The Shrubber's Woodchipper]

Maybe porn actresses expect to be paid by the inch. Or do they use some (length) x (girth) formula to determine compensation?

[Just say Nikki]

If you RTFA, you would know that's not the issue.

[The Shrubber's Woodchipper]

It's a joke. And I'm failing to understand your position or passion on this thread.

[Warty]

I don't want to put words in Nikki's mouth (sex joke), but I think she's mostly pissed about how the the yokel crew doesn't read articles but still indulges in emotional overreaction.

[Lee G]

Now that's tilting at windmills

[PM]

That's fair. If you're going to hysterically whinge about the racial proclivities and moral rectitude of porn starlets, you should definitely take the time to read the article first. If Nikki can do it, so can you!

[Red Rocks Rockin]

I think she's mostly pissed about how the the yokel crew doesn't read articles but still indulges in emotional overreaction.

Engaging in emotional overreaction herself is a great way to call attention to that.

[Monty Crisco]

^ THIS +1001

And by all means, invoke "morality". That is a surefire winner on libertarian threads!

[ant1sthenes]

Do people here generally read articles?

[bacon-magic]

I thought this was just a comment site?

[Number.6]

It makes perfect sense for a (female) performer to discriminate in this way.

A newbie performer can charge a premium when they do their first Interracial, first DP, first anal scene etc. Ones with competent agents will promote the shit out of "Anya Cuck in her very first DP feature". The timing of these events is carefully planned and managed, and really, being scolded into it by a manslut like Deen would be the LAST reason to do it.

As noted above. If he was prepared to pay a premium, he could get some female talent to 'give up their same-race partner card pretty easily. If he understood business.

[Just say Nikki]

He does understand business. The whole point of the article is that some performers and creators want to change the whole "carefully planned and managed" set of events, because it's set up to make white woman-black man sex the "naughtiest" thing you can do in porn.

[The Shrubber's Woodchipper]

One you go black you can never go back.

[Monty Crisco]

THIS NEEDS MORE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD!!

Good luck with that...

[Lord Humungus]

Snakes in toilets of Townsville houses as search for water gets creative in north Queensland

Townsville volunteer snake catcher Elliot Budd was called to a house in Mount Stuart earlier this month after a tradesman working on a house found a three-metre python in a downstairs loo.

Mr Budd said when he received a call a week later from a woman with the same problem, he thought it was a joke.

"At first I thought it was a friend having a go at me but she was very serious about it," he said.

"I went out and there was a snake curled up in the toilet."

Mr Budd said the carpet python required some coaxing to come out.

[Tonio]

"volunteer snake catcher" So, a failure of government?

[Rhywun]

"We got it!"

[SRVolunteer]

Going there (Sydney, Townsville, Cairns) for a visit in November. Talked my wife into going to the land of the Drop Bears for part of our honeymoon.

[Mickey Rat]

The day was not saved by the Powerpuff Girls.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Ahmed Mohamed, the Texas 9th grader arrested after the homemade clock he brought to school was mistaken for a bomb, is reportedly thinking about transferring to a different school.

So he's invented a school choice machine?

[gaijin]

And the winning choice is....Madrasas!

[Bee Tagger]

A Seattle police officer has been fired after she arrested an elderly black man for refusing to drop a golf club that he was using as a cane.

To be fair, it was too much club for the distance he needed.

[Florida Man]

I'm not even a golfer and I thought it was funny.

[PM]

Oregon artist to sell image of Trump painted with menstrual blood

An Oregon artist who used menstrual blood to paint an image of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Wednesday she would sell posters as well as the original, created in response to remarks by the billionaire about Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly.

[Citizen X]

Painting with her... wherever

[Rich]

The image

[Crusty Juggler]

Ew and it looks good. And ew.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Why did I click...*throws up in trashcan*

[Crusty Juggler]

Putting her diva cup to good use.

[Citizen X]

I wonder how much cat hair ended up stuck to the painting.

[Elspeth Flashman]

You mean furtata.

[Citizen X]

[vomits]

[Antilles]

I just got an idea! I'm going to paint a portrait of Hillary on black velvet with my semen! You think the media will be knocking at my door to talk to me?

[Number.6]

What about on a blue dress?

[Antilles]

Brilliant!

[Elspeth Flashman]

It depends on what you call "media." But yes, I think they will.

[Antilles]

Doubt the coverage would be as fawning as it is for the woman who painted Trump. But I feel an obligation to fight against semen-shaming.

[Citizen X]

I'm sure he could get an interview in Vice.

[Lord Humungus]

Russian woman drags tram car weighing nearly 19 tons

Irkutsk native Oksana Kosheleva set what is believed to be a national record for Russia by dragging the 18.7-ton tram car after being unable to secure her intended target -- a 22-ton plane.

"I was preparing to move a plane but eventually ended up with a tram car. It was not hard, actually. It should be longer, next time we will make it longer," Kosheleva told reporters after her accomplishment. "We may make it two tram cars or three, or four."

Kosheleva said she is hoping to drag the plane next year to attempt a Guinness World Record.

something something pulling a train

[bacon-magic]

And deeper.

[PM]

Man spends 6 months, $1,500 making a sandwich from scratch

MINNEAPOLIS, Sept. 16 (UPI) -- A YouTuber spent six months and $1,500 making a sandwich truly from scratch -- including growing his own vegetables and making his own cheese.

Andy George, star of the "How to Make Everything" YouTube channel, posted a video to the site titled, "How to Make a $1500 Sandwich in Only 6 Months."

"I spent 6 months and $1500 to completely make a sandwich from scratch. Including growing my own vegetables, making my own salt from ocean water, milking a cow to make cheese, grinding my own flour from wheat, collecting my own honey, and killing a chicken myself," George wrote in the video's description.

Interesting take on the I, Pencil concept.

[Jordan]

But, but, middlemen always increase costs!

/economic illiterate

[Rhywun]

He should open up a branch in Williamsburg.

[Zeb]

There was that guy who tried to make a toaster from scratch too. I think it is a cool demonstration of the power of voluntary economic cooperation and specialization, though I'm sure lots of people get completely the wrong message from it.

[Antilles]

Well, at least that's better than giving $5 to a disgusting Capitalist.

[PM]

The pop star and the prophet

Musicians aren't likely to get rich from selling records today, unlike their 20th Century predecessors - and one man saw it all coming a long time ago. So singer-songwriter Sam York went to ask him if the future will be better for musicians, or worse.

Back in 1976, the music business looked indestructible.

ABBA, the Beach Boys and Rod Stewart were selling mountains of records and things were only going to get better. Sales grew almost unchecked until 1999 - the most profitable year in the industry's history.

But at the turn of the century the arrival of the internet and the MP3 file saw revenues collapse, a seismic shift that no-one had seen coming.

No-one? Well, not quite.

Also in 1976, a French polymath called Jacques Attali wrote a book that predicted this crisis with astonishing accuracy. It was called Noise: The Political Economy of Music and he called the coming turmoil the "crisis of proliferation".

[Rich]

When Ahmed Mohamed brings his clock to the White House, will it be checked by security?

[gaijin]

No, but if he brings a coffee mug they might go on lockdown..

WH on Lockdown after unattended package scare

[Elspeth Flashman]

Odd thing I saw yesterday in the hallway near another law firm: Anonymous Mail container from the USPS. It was labeled "anonymous mail" and looked all weird. Someone else had already retrieved the package, letter, whatever, but it still looked creepy.

[Pope Jimbo]

Wait, what?

Oh, you said clock. I guess that is OK. For a minute though, I thought you were getting a bit risque

[Lord Humungus]

You've gotta get in on the love train: Cornel West stumps for Bernie Sanders

Following his Atlanta trip on Friday, Sanders spoke at three South Carolina events alongside veteran civil rights activist and academic Cornel West. First came his event at Benedict College, a small historically black college in Columbia, South Carolina, where he spoke to an audience of 1,000 people, roughly half white and half minority, according to local media.

"Bernie Sanders is calling for a political revolution predicated on a moral and spiritual awakening. We've got to straighten our backs up. Come together across color, across class, across sexual orientation, across region. That's what Bernie Sanders' campaign is all about," thundered West, as the audience gave him a standing ovation. "You've gotta get in on the love train. That's what Bernie Sanders' campaign is. It's a love train. Do you love working people? Do you love poor people? Do you love the declining middle class? We love rich folk too, but we can't stand greed. We can't stand avaricious activity. We can't stand injustice."

[gaijin]

we can't stand greed.

Get back to me when you address envy...

[tarran]

but we can't stand greed

What's so pathetic about redistributionists it how they project their greed onto other people.

[Marshall Gill]

Yep, they define greed as not wanting to have your money taken from you.

[Rhywun]

"Your money". Good one.

[Antilles]

Yes, wanting to keep more of the money you've earned is greedy. Forcing others pay for your bad choices in life, not so much.

[Rasilio]

I think West should run for President with Sanders as his VP.

Then we could all vote for the Cornel - Sanders ticket

[BigT]

Swiss we need a narrow gays.

[Zeb]

What's wrong with greed as long as it doesn't involve fraud or coercion?

How do these people still talk about wealth as if it is a pie to be divided up?

[Lord Humungus]

Charting the Markets: The World Awaits the Fed

After much anticipation, today the world will learn if the Fed is going to raise rates or not, as most traders and economists think. It's day two of the Federal Reserve's two-day meeting on interest rates and at 2 p.m. Washington we'll get the word. Fed chair Janet Yellen will speak 30 minutes later.

A narrow majority of economists think the Fed will keep rates on hold. Traders seem more certain the Fed won't act. The probability of a rate hike stands at just 34 percent, according to futures contracts.

[TwB]

I don't think the Fed will announce that it's raising rates today, and they may not even do it in December, either. But I think they should. The Fed cannot keep the interest rates near zero forever, it's just not a healthy economic position to take. And if another major correction happens, they wouldn't be crazy enough to introduce negative interest rates, would they?

[Jordan]

And if another major correction happens, they wouldn't be crazy enough to introduce negative interest rates, would they?

When it happens, not if. And never underestimate central banker stupidity.

[TwB]

True, there will be another big correction, it is inevitable. But negative interest rates? They'd be insane.

[Restoras]

They'd be insane.

Or just stupid. I have seen nothing to suggest it isn't just stupidity.

I suppose you could chalk it up to hubris but these people are supposed to be smart, and theoretically able to see past that. The fact that they can't means they are just stupid. So we are back to just stupidity.

[Marshall Gill]

The Fed cannot keep the interest rates near zero forever, it's just not a healthy economic position to take.

But look how well it has worked for Japan.

[Medical Physics Guy]

The World Awaits the Fed

So much that is wrong with the world, encapsulated in one small sentence.

[Lord Humungus]

Report: Intoxicated man at Hooters 'meows' at Rock Hill officers

Officers received a report about someone in a Mercedes-Benz driving recklessly through the parking lot of Hooters on Riverchase Boulevard about 11:30 p.m. Saturday, according to a Rock Hill police report. The vehicle was not occupied when they found it, and witnesses described the driver as intoxicated.

Officers then received a call about the same intoxicated man harassing customers in front of Hooters, police said. They located the 25-year-old man, who was "heavily intoxicated" and smelled of alcohol.

The report states that when an officer asked for the man's name, he responded, "Meow." The officer then asked the man's real name, to which he again responded, "Meow."

[Citizen X]

... Warty?

[Old Man With Candy]

No, I recognize it. Riven.

[Riven]

Meow just what do you mean by that??

[Old Man With Candy]

Nothing. Now show me your tits.

[Riven]

You asked for it

[Florida Man]

Meow? Watch out for these guys. Hell, I'd of called him a chicken fucker.

[Crusty Juggler]

"There was a time when we'd take a guy like you in the back and beat you with a hose. Now you've got your God-damned unions. "

[TwB]

"I swear to God, I will pistol whip the next guy who says shenanigans!"-Chief Grady

"Hey Farva, what's that restaurant you like w/ the mozzarella sticks?"-Mac

"You mean Shenanigans?"-Farva

"Oooohhhh!!!"-Mac and Co (offer Grady a pistol)

"Put that away!"-Chief Grady

[PM]

That's not a crime, that's their business model.

[lafe.long]

The vehicle was not occupied when they found it, and witnesses described the driver as intoxicated.

whut?

[UnCivilServant]

Clearly, it was being driven by Spirits.

/end bad pun.

[Lord Humungus]

Scott Walker For Labor Secretary

Now, naturally, most candidates would probably avoid picking this kind of fight with labor in a general election. Yet this kind of restructuring would be tremendously popular with conservatives and with many business leaders. As Walker proved in Wisconsin, they also have some traction with independents and Democrats. Walker could put to use his formidable experience fighting off union bosses. Having already dealt with the pressure of facing a well-funded special interest, and winning (on numerous times), Walker is more qualified on this front than anyone else running. If he wants to make a difference, it might be his best chance.

Because he's not going to be president.

[UnCivilServant]

If the entire stage were to be cast into cabinet posts, where would everyone be most useful?

[Citizen X]

I'd respond with where i think all of 'em would be most useful, but i don't want to get Reason investigated by the feds again.

[UnCivilServant]

That's not a Faux Cabinet post.

[gaijin]

off stage?

[db]

Paul: Treasury or Attorney General
Trump: Interior
Fiorino:
Rubio:
Christie: Agriculture
Kasich: who?

Ah, Fuck it, there are too many cabinet positions. Might as well abolish them all.

[Illocust]

Are you insane. You put Christie in charge of a pork program. The man needs to be contained not given free reign.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Well, yeah, but anyone in that position is going to do that. May as well put him in the one where he can do the least amount of harm.

[Illocust]

That's what the VP position is for. All the power and ability to do harm of a pitcher of spit.

[db]

I like to think of it as making him free range.

[Illocust]

Trump for Press Relations.
Paul in charge of the Fed.
Walker on the National Labor Relations Board.
Fiona in the State Department.
Christie as VP.
Santorum (or whoever is representing the religious right) heading up the Education Department.

And I don't know who else is running.

[Florida Man]

Carson for Surgeon General.

[Lord Humungus]

Rubio: I'd Rather Spanish Speakers Hear Me Convey Conservatism Directly, Not Through a Translator

My grandfather instilled in me the belief I was blessed to live in one society where even I, the son of a bartender and maid, could aspire to have anything and be anything I was willing to work hard to achieve, but taught me that in Spanish because it was the language he was most comfortable in and he became a conservative even though he got news in Spanish.

I believe that free enterprise and limited government is the best way to help people who are trying to achieve upward mobility and if they get their news in Spanish, I want them to hear directly from me, not from a translator at Univision.

[Florida Man]

I thought Rubio did well myself. He spoke forcefully at times. I wasn't impressed with Carly's public speaking skills myself. Also for a lady she has a mighty big war boner.

[Lord Humungus]

Carly Fiorina Dares Clinton and Obama to Watch Planned Parenthood Videos

"Anyone who has watched those video tapes ? I dare Hillary Clinton [and] Barack Obama to watch these tapes," she said, her intense delivery drawing the largest applause of any line to that point in tonight's GOP presidential debate. "Watch a fully-formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says 'we have to keep it alive to harvest it's brain.' This is about the character of our nation."

Her remarks were an apparent reference to the seventh video released by the Center for Medical Progress exposing Planned Parenthood's apparent sale of body parts taken from aborted babies. In the video, a former employee of then-Planned Parenthood partner Stem Express named Holly O'Donnell described how a Planned Parenthood employee tapped the chest of an aborted baby "and it starts beating."

[Illocust]

Wait, so did the videos show the baby or did the videos show someone describing the situation, because I'm pretty sure if there is a live birth that it is a crime in most states to start hacking on it.

[Monty Crisco]

Ask Kermit Gosnell!!!

[Mickey Rat]

Obama thought it should not be, and voted that way. I do not remember if the bill passed in Illinois though.

[Monty Crisco]

Didn't. It was a bill about making it illegal to NOT give aid to a fetus that SURVIVED AN ABORTION.
Not like those little fuckers need the help!

[Rich]

The White House briefly went into lock down on Wednesday afternoon after an 'unattended package' was discovered in the park across the street. The object inside the package turned out to be a coffee mug

Emphasis added. FFS, there's enough litter in DC to keep the White House locked down *constantly*!

[Not a Libertarian]

At least it wasn't a clock

[TwB]

"Wall Street is skeptical that the Federal Reserve has room to raise short-term interest rates Thursday, underscoring persistent doubts about the health of the global economy and financial markets following seven years of easy policy."-Wall Street Journal

Ok, let me get this straight: Wall Street is afraid of the Fed raising rates by .25 or .50%. If the Fed can't raise rates to those measly levels without causing Wall Street to shit itself, then the economic state of this country is actually in dire straights, and not improving as some of the pundits, and the Lightbringer, have been saying for 6 months.

[Jordan]

Wall Street and the Fed are clueless clowns. It doesn't matter what rate the Fed sets; the crash is already baked in.

[Derpetologist]

spot the not: military etymologies

1. The word sniper comes from marksmen who could shoot small, quick birds called snipes.

2. Shrapnel is named after its inventor, a British general.

3. The bayonet is named after its place of origin in Bayonne, France.

4. The word grenade comes from the Spanish word for pomegranate.

5. Tanks got their name from a WWI ruse. To keep the Germans from finding out about the new weapon, the British put them in crates labeled "tank", as in a water tank.

6. The word bomb comes from the Turkish word for boom.

[UnCivilServant]

I thought it was the french word for Pomegranate.

I'd go with #6 as the not. I know 1,2,3 &5 are true.

[GILMORE?]

Grenado

"'Pomegranate" is the French word for Pomegranate

[Derpetologist]

The Spanish word for pomegranate is granada. It is also the name of a city and region in Spain.

[GILMORE?]

Ah, oh, eeey yai yai

[WTF]

#6

[Monty Crisco]

Imma say 6...

[db]

1.

[Illocust]

1. Seriously, you used snipe hunt?

[Monty Crisco]

Ah, IIIocust...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe

Camouflage may enable snipe to remain undetected by hunters in marshland. If the snipe flies, hunters have difficulty estimating a correct aiming lead for the bird's erratic flight pattern. The difficulties involved in hunting snipe gave rise to the term "sniper", referring to a skilled anti-personnel military sharpshooter.[3]

"Going on a snipe hunt" is a phrase suggesting a fool's errand, or an impossible task. It is often used as a practical joke upon campers, and those unfamiliar with hunting, by those more experienced.[4]

[Derpetologist]

Let me reveal the answers, damn you!

[Monty Crisco]

Sorry...

[Illocust]

Huh, what do you know. I thought a snipe was a type of hunter target. Learn something new every day.

[UnCivilServant]

I thought a snipe was a type of hunter target.

Technically it is, the same way a quail, duck, or lawyer is.

[UnCivilServant]

Sorry, Illocust, but that is actually where both came from (sniper and snipe hunt)

[Monty Crisco]

HAH!!! Beatcha to it!! And with a reference!!

[UnCivilServant]

While I Admit the timestamp show you correcting Illocust first, the reference is a point against.

[Monty Crisco]

How dare you question Wikipedia!! They have PICTURES!!!

[UnCivilServant]

No, It's a "Spot the Not", you're not supposed to look up the answers.

[Monty Crisco]

I already KNEW it, I just wanted to SUPPORT it...

[Mickey Rat]

I seem to recall some sitcoms using "snipe hunt" as a practical joke on the basis that there was no such creature. That maybe is how where the confusion comes from.

[Monty Crisco]

Cheers is the one I remember doing it most prominently.

[Derpetologist]

6 is the Not. The word bomb comes from the Greek word for boom or hum. It later migrated into Latin and from there into French and Italian. Its modern use comes from the word bombard, a kind of early cannon.

Snipes are real birds and they do live in North America. However, they only live in a few places, so you are unlikely to see one unless you go to a swamp near the border with Canada.

[Rich]

Weiner starts firm after release

[gaijin]

A soft launch

[Lord Humungus]

Should have said "Weiner pulls out, enters another"

[Crusty Juggler]

Public relations?

His advice: "Hey, uhhhhhh, don't send photos of your dong to a skank on the internet when you are semi-famous and married. But, if you do send photos of your dong to a skank on the internet, make sure you use a sweet nom de plume, like Carlos Danger."

[Lord Humungus]

This is for a certain sometimes commentator:

A Bioethicist Explains All the Important Lessons We Can Learn from 'The Golden Girls'

Why do you like the show so much?
[Unlike] other 80s and 90s sitcoms, right off the bat in the first season, Blanche's sister Virginia comes and asks her for a kidney. They didn't wait for the show to get popular until they started coming out with these bigger issues. It's something that was inherently integrated in the show from the very beginning, which was interesting. They didn't shy away from LGBT issues at all, which was unusual for the time, and it wasn't just a punch line.

In the episode where Gil Kessler is running for city council, and, like, Sophia knew something was off with him and in the end they found out he's transgender. So that wasn't great [laughs], but there were regular gay characters and in that way it was pioneering.

[UnCivilServant]

Since "Bioethicist" means "Soulless, Evil Person", why should we listen to anything they spew?

[OldMexican]

Since AT&T opened the Hallmark Channel in Uverse, my wife and I watch re-runs of The Middle every night (right after Kennedy). What Hallmark shows after The Middle is the Golden Girls. The moment the Golden Girls start I switch the channel to something else because the show is known for emasculating men if exposed to it for more than 30 seconds.

[Rich]

Agencies Say They Need Access to Americans' Emails Without a Warrant

"The bill ... poses sig?ni?fic?ant risk to the Amer?ic?an pub?lic by im?ped?ing the abil?ity of ... law en?force?ment agen?cies to in?vest?ig?ate and un?cov?er ... un?law?ful con?duct," said An?drew Ceres?ney, dir?ect?or of en?force?ment at the Se?cur?it?ies and Ex?change Com?mis?sion.

But, enough about the Bill of Rights.

[Derpetologist]

The Throne of the Third Heaven, an artwork made from cardboard and aluminum foil

The artist was a reclusive and deeply religious civil servant. The artwork was discovered in his garage after his death.

http://americanart.si.edu/coll.....t/?id=2052

[UnCivilServant]

I'm impressed by the workmanship and the amount of time that would have to be devoted to such a project. All the more so because he decided not to share it.

[Derpetologist]

He died before he finished it. He spent 14 years making what you see in the picture.

[Derpetologist]

I saw it in person in DC. It really looks like a bunch of gold and silver. I highly recommend going to see it if you get the chance.

[Tonio]

I believe it's all made of cardboard, foil of various sorts and uses a lot of found materials. Nobody knew about this until after he died. It almost got dumpsterized until someone recognized it as outsider art.

[SugarFree]

"Your husband's work is what we call 'outsider art.' It could be by a mental patient, a hillbilly or a chimpanzee."

[Number.6]

No riven skulls?
No fractured femurs?

What kind of a throne doesn't have those?

[Lord Humungus]

When Teenage Girls Find Out They're Genetically Male

Nature deals teens a pretty tough hand: Your face explodes in zits, hair appears all over the place, and your body starts to mutate like the High School Musical version of An American Werewolf in London. But some teenage girls?roughly 1 in 80,000 to be precise?never go through this. They never develop breasts or start their periods. They'll usually be much taller and broader than their peers, and have much larger feet. Thanks to a medical condition called Swyer Syndrome, these girls have been genetically male their whole lives without knowing it.

Bethan from Swansea, Wales, can relate. She encountered bullying throughout her school years as a result of her condition. "I was called names like 'man beast,' 'man boobs,' and 'Shrek,'" the 23-year-old said. "It was a very difficult time." This kind of schoolyard abuse is sadly (but predictably) the norm.

[OldMexican]

This kind of schoolyard abuse is sadly (but predictably) the norm.

You can bet your sweet patootie that the blame for that sorry state of things will never be placed on the true villain --compulsory schooling-- but on "society" or some other conveniently squishy and vague term.

[Derpetologist]

Whenever I hear someone yap about learning social skills in school, I tell them the skills you learn are the same ones you learn in prison.

[Derpetologist]

There are rumors that Jamie Lee Curtis and Bea Arthur have Swyer's Syndrome.

[sarcasmic]

DON'T TALK ABOUT... Oh, wait. Carry on.

[lafe.long]

I don't care.. I still freeze frame "Trading Places" and that one scene in Maude.

[sarcasmic]

and that one scene in Maude.

This one?

[Irish ?s ESB]

The Guardian Guardians harder than they've ever Guardianed before.

"Femen's topless condescension towards Muslim women only helps sexism"

"The latest antics of Femen at a French Muslim conference allegedly discussing wife-beating and proper womanly pursuits are a case in point. Running on stage in front of the two shocked male speakers after tearing off the abayas they had worn as a disguise, they stripped to the waist with slogans such as "I am my own prophet" and "no one subjugates me" scrawled across their naked torsos. They then shouted at the crowd until they were forcibly removed by security.

What is most troubling about this event is not the outrageously condescending attitude of Femen, nor the reported appalling sexism of the some of the Muslims involved: it is that these two voices are once again propped up as the only two in the conversation. It is as if one can only be either a Muslim who loves misogyny as a religious duty, or an orientalist feminist who hates Islam. There is no other option."

Clearly feminists protesting a debate about whether or not you can beat your wife isn't something feminists should be doing. They should be worrying about manspreading instead of something so blase and irrelevant as spousal abuse.

[Lord Humungus]

So - in PC/Lefty land - Muslim trumps feminism. Where do the gays fit in? Or the Lesbian Muslims?

so confusing.

[Juvenile Bluster]

The Privilege List changes daily. Sure, white straight men are always more privileged than everyone else. But otherwise, it changes. Sometimes the Muslims are on top, sometimes the Jews, sometimes women, sometimes homosexuals, etc.

[ant1sthenes]

Once upon a time, Communists posed a greatest threat to the West, so they were the darlings of PC/lefty land. Now Muslims do, so they are the darlings. Feminism and LGTBBQWTF rights serve only an auxiliary role, helping to promote social arrangements that lower breeding rates (the true goal, which is why the central issue of left-wing "feminism" is always abortion). Left wing economic policies do for the economy what left-wing social programs do for the population.

If you assume that the only goal of the left is to destroy their own societies and eradicate their own peoples, their behavior is perfectly consistent.

[Irish ?s ESB]

"Aisha, the prophet's wife, lacerated her male contemporaries with, "You make women worse than animals?!" for believing (wrongly) their prayers were nullified if a woman walked in front of them during worship. It was a woman who challenged, and beat, the second Caliph in a debate in the mosque about women's financial rights in marriage. And today, lawyers like Asifa Qureshi use blisteringly strong sharia arguments to fight against rulings that punish rape victims in Pakistan and call for the stoning of women in Nigeria."

Sure Islamic courts allow rape victims to be punished and sometimes women might get stoned to death, but there are some lawyers arguing that we shouldn't do that, so what's the big deal?

[Irish ?s ESB]

Meanwhile, the actual feminists in actual Muslim countries have more pressing concerns than Guardian writers.

"Sevinc Karaca, a Turkish anarchist and feminist, describes the fine line that Muslim women must navigate between Islam and the West. "In all Muslim countries, women had to wait until the 1970s and 1980s for a feminist movement that questioned the practise of religion and its role in the oppression of women. As Feminists in the West beat around the bush with an air of multi-culturalist political correctness and go out of their way to show respect for exotic religions, there is a growing number of feminists in countries like Turkey and Iran and among the diaspora in non- Muslim countries whose policies and strategies for feminism do not take the route of Western Liberal Feminism. The majority of feminist ideologies and activism in the developed world today do not address and support the struggle of their Muslim comrades openly, directly or sufficiently.""

[Just say Nikki]

I thought it wasn't about whether you can, but about how hard.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Go on...(?)

[Irish ?s ESB]

Nicole's just well trained and doesn't even complain when I hit her, so long as I don't leave a serious enough bruise.

[OldMexican]

"Shh! Children! Children! Stop fighting amongst yourselves! Remember who the true villain is and who we fight against: western individualistic civilization!"

[Illocust]

Protesting the debate is stupid. The people for beating your wife can point out the window and tie the people against it to the women doing things all the debaters and audience members consider wrong and offensive. Protests can backfire and do in fact do so all the time. Just look at PETA.

[Just say Nikki]

You know, most people here don't RTFA, but you have a truly special ability to make comments that could not be less relevant to what actually happened.

For example, you think the protests were outside for some reason.

[Illocust]

Work computer. I never go to the article until I get home.

[Illocust]

Well not never, I just don't generally start that way.

Also, you'll notice a very large portion of my single comments are questions for other Reasanoids or statements with caveats built in for if the summary is missing information.

[Just say Nikki]

We appreciate the time you can devote to spreading baseless rumors through the comments section.

[Illocust]

I'm really surprise Crusty or OldMan hasn't jumped in to yell catfight yet 😛

Also, the only part of my comment that was off was saying pointing out the window.

[PM]

Sounds like somebody has blood shooting out of their, you know, whatever...

[Just say Nikki]

No, the part where you said "protesting the debate was stupid" without knowing shit about the debate, the protesters, or what happened was also "off." How could you possibly know?

[Old Man With Candy]

CATFIGHT!

Happy now?

[Monty Crisco]

You think that is the most Guardianest thing you can find?!?

How about how we are all going to turn into Hitler due to climate change?

http://www.theguardian.com/wor.....o-far-away

Trumped ya!

(SEE WHAT I DID THERE?!)

[Irish ?s ESB]

Normally I like Timothy Snyder too. He's a good historian who lets his political views run away with him.

And no, obviously it wasn't really the most Guardian thing I could find. The article by Lucy Mangan about how she agrees with Helen Miren that it's sexist to put your arm around a girl is the most Guardian thing, but I decided to spare your sanity because it contains paragraphs like:

"Men are ? I think quite genuinely, and almost reasonably ? confused. Those who came of age before all internet hell broke loose and started fragmenting opinion and the world, or who are blessed with greater than average common sense or natural chivalry (the latter in its true sense more nearly synonymous with grace than sexism) still know that it is quite all right to open a door for a woman, to give up their seats to pregnant women and so on. (The former, incidentally, because "person being polite to other person" is always fine and the latter because "person being kind to other person even if kindness needed because of gender-specific condition" is too.) And from those certainties flows a veritable river of unimpeachably egalitarian behaviours. For the rest ? all is chaos."

You can thank me later.

[Monty Crisco]

I'll thank you now!!

[Trump's Grenzmauer]

I have to ask this question after watching the debates last night, but why do we want Russia out of Syria? If the Russians are supporting Assad then aren't they by default fighting ISIS?

So a foreign power is using it's money, and it's blood to fight one of our enemies, and somehow this is a bad thing?

[Auric Demonocles]

The leading Republican presidential candidates debated for three hours last night at the Ronald Reagan Library in California.

The 20 minutes I saw while I was preparing the crockpot for today involved no debate (it also involved no Paul).

The officer claimed the man swung the cane at her at one point during in their encounter, but dashboard video failed to support her statement.

This sentence is as passive as the alt-text.

[Lord Humungus]

This Father Pulled Out His Daughter's Wobbly Tooth With A Drone

A little girl has her first tooth yanked out by a drone.

Footage that's going viral online shows her father attaching dental floss to her wobbly incisor.

He then sends the gadget soaring up into the sky, before it painlessly whips out her ivory.

The dad whoops in excitement as the youngster scrambles around on the ground and finds the molar.

[Illocust]

I never got people needing help to get loose teeth out. The second one of my teeth started to get loose, I would mess with it constantly until it fell out.

[Medical Physics Guy]

Here's a link for Lenore et al. Not sure if this has been fully verified, but popehat is already on the case as you can see in the discussion:

So Cal Woman Threatened With Lawsuit Because Her Kid Told Other Kids There Was No Santa

The letter has 8 kids names that were "traumatized" by my son's "negligent actions" and demands that he stay away from them at all times, he is to never interact with them.

Here is the icing on the cake, in lieu of suit: the letter states that I need to pay for a fully interactive "Santa Experience" whereby a hired Santa will be hosted at one of the kids houses for a "Santa Experience" where he hands out presents (at my expense), sings songs with all 8 kids, and offers general Christmas cheer. The purpose of this is to "reverse the damage my son caused and re-spark the child like wonderment that surrounds the holidays."

They have given me until the 15th of September to "rectify this unfortunate situation."

[PM]

Any judge that would allow that suit to go forward should be [redacted] into a [redacted].

[Mindyourbusiness]

[redacted] first.

[Tonio]

So, these people are trying to force this kid to express religious/supernatural beliefs they find acceptable.

[tarran]

My guess is that it's a hoax.

[Tonio]

While I don't condone publishing the kids names I hope she publishes that letter with the kids' first names redacted.

[Antilles]

I never told the other kids that Santa wasn't real, only that I was skeptical about his existence since too many aspects of the legend didn't add up. I was resoundingly ridiculed for failing to believe something that everyone else did. I get a similar reaction these days whenever I bring up the subject of religion...

[Lord Humungus]

Mystery Soda Machine

On the corner of John Street and 10th Avenue East, in the heart of Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood lies the world's most mysterious soda vending machine. Nobody knows the true history of the rusting machine, which looks like it was spat straight out of the Seventies, but locals continue to plunk down their change and the machine never seems to run out of stock. Who first installed the outdoor machine, who stocks it, and who collects the money are all a mystery.

The modern antique offers a comparatively limited selection of drinks with yellowed plastic buttons offering Coke, Mountain Dew, Pepsi, and Barq's, but the intriguing button marked "Mystery" generally produces none of these. According to one report, after spending five dollars in change on the mystery button, the machine produced six different brand of soda, none of which had their own button on the machine.

[Rhywun]

I thought the "Mystery" button would spit out random girls with self-confidence issues.

[Warty]

Ken White on the clock notbomb thing

American lives are controlled by the thuggishly mediocre. The best measure of their control is this: when called out on their mediocre thuggery, they can comfortably double down.

Ahmed Mohamed, a bright and curious ninth-grader in Irving, Texas, learned that to his regret this week.

[Rhywun]

But this week he found out that he actually lives in a different world, a grim real world controlled by school administrators and cops who are deeply suspicious of individuality, if not openly hostile.

Most school kids already know this. Ahmed probably doubly so.

[sarcasmic]

Turned on the radio to listen to some of the debate last night and that fucking fuck Hannity was on. I've got a physical reaction to that asshole's voice. Almost broke the damn radio. No local stations carried the debate, and I sure as fuck wasn't going to sit down to listen to it. I can stand listening to that shit while I'm puttering around in the basement, but not just sitting in one spot. Oh well.

[Lord Humungus]

I mixed myself a tall gin & tonic, played some video games, watch some "Enemy At the Gate", and spun some records. I made a point of not watching the debates since I know any president we "get" is going to be a shitshow.

[Sevo]

"2 ex-California governors come out against teacher tenure laws"
[...]
"Former Govs. Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger and constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe joined the legal attack on California's teacher tenure laws Wednesday, telling a state appeals court the job-security and seniority statutes leave some of the state's neediest students in the hands of incompetent teachers."
http://www.sfgate.com/educatio.....509583.php

that's "ex", as in "don't have to worry about getting elected again", but it's worth something

[Restoras]

If your entire understanding of the economy comes from headlines about the latest economic data, you would be forgiven for thinking these are the best of times. The unemployment rate is down to 5.1 percent, after all!

If your entire understanding of the economy comes from what is going on in financial markets, you would be forgiven for thinking the same. The stock market, its recent dip notwithstanding, is still not far from all-time highs!

That's what makes the latest annual data on incomes, released by the Census Bureau on Wednesday morning, an important corrective.

The median American household in 2014 had a lower income, in inflation-adjusted terms, than it did in 2013.

From the NY Times, no less.

[GILMORE?]

This tale of woe will only increase as we get closer to Obama's exit. He did so much! but the evils of capitalism nevertheless served to undermine American prosperity.

[Crusty Juggler]

Further evidence of the conservative media's predilection for conspiracy

Trigger warnings: Charles Johnson, Charles Johnson, and Charles Johnson. He has the screenshots, though.

[sarcasmic]

Princess Leia's ?77,000 bikini: Gold outfit worn by Carrie Fisher in Return of the Jedi among selection of Star Wars memorabilia going under the hammer

Gold bikini worn by Carrie Fisher in Return of the Jedi is to be auctioned
Fans are expected to pay ?77,000 ($120,000) for the Princess Leia costume
It is among more than 50 lots of Star Wars props to be offered for sale
The auction is on October 1 at Californian auction house Profiles in History

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....ammer.html
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ramusient, aberdeen, United Kingdom, 9 minutes ago

There's one item of clothing that will never see the inside of a washing machine again.

[Galactic Chipper Cdr Lytton]

1400 comments in last nights debate thread? Wow.

In other news, 30th anniversary Farm Aid kicks off today.

[Certified Public Asshat]

What am I missing here?

Every Single GOP Candidate's Proposed Secret Service Code Name Is Unimaginably Hilarious

Here are the candidates' real, actual answers, each of which delivers such a perfect morsel of conservative id:

Chris Christie: "True Heart"
John Kasich: "Unit One"
Carly Fiorina: "Secretariat"
Scott Walker: "Harley"
Jeb Bush: "Ever-Ready"
Donald Trump: "Humble"
Ben Carson: "One Nation"
Ted Cruz: "Cohiba"
Marco Rubio: "Gator"
Mike Huckabee: "Duck Hunter"
Ron Paul: "Justice Never Sleeps"
Cohiba! Duck Hunter! Justice Never Sleeps! Secretariat!!!

I swear this is the funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

[Crusty Juggler]

You have better taste than that person?

[commodious spittoon]

They cannot conceive of politicians with whom they disagree having a humorous side, so rather than being the punchline to a joke question given by moderators they treat it as the set up to their own Jon Stewart-style punchline: pretend incredulity and spastic hand-waving. Don't forget to tap the pen on the desk.

[Warty]

Carly Fiorina: "Secretariat"

Don't you stop running, and don't you ever look behind you. There's nothing for you behind you. All that exists is what's ahead.

[Riven]

Think it would be insensitive to get Fiorina to watch this?

[Warty]

A Vespa is not a motorcycle.

[Warty]

Running for president: it gets easier.

[commodious spittoon]

Holy hells

The show is designed by the cartoonist Lisa Hanawalt, who had previously worked with Bob-Waksberg on the webcomic Tip Me Over, Pour Me Out.

I used to read that. I didn't think anyone knew about it. Weird.

[Just say Nikki]

I wonder if this means Rubio is an Archer fan.

[Brett L]

I would have to dramtically alter my world biew if that were true.

[sarcasmic]

Had Chris Christie answered "Fat Bastard" he would have won the debate right there.

[sarcasmic]

Get in my belly!

[BigT]

Chris Christie: "True Heart" =Tubby Fart
John Kasich: "Unit One" = Eunuch One
Carly Fiorina: "Secretariat" = Horseface
Scott Walker: "Harley" = Dells angel
Jeb Bush: "Ever-Ready" = inbred
Donald Trump: "Humble" = Loudmouth
Ben Carson: "One Nation" = uncle Ben
Ted Cruz: "Cohiba" = Roboto
Marco Rubio: "Gator" = Smarmy
Mike Huckabee: "Duck Hunter" = Jeebus
Ron Paul: "Justice Never Sleeps" = Liberty

[0x90]

Funny as hell: words commonly used on twitter, by the right & left.

Republican/right wing words (some are word stems)

- Obama
- tcot (Top Conservative on Twitter)
- Will
- God
- Obamacar...
- America
- Liber...
- American
- Benghazi
- Tax
- Conserv...
- Run
- State
- Countri...
- Govern...
- Obam...
- Illeg...
- Lie

Democrat/left wing words (some are word stems)

- Love
- Lol
- Just
- Feel
- F***
- Like
- Realli...
- Watch
- ...n't
- Got
- Happi...
- S***
- Worldcup
- Amaz...
- Work
- Women
- Day
- Know
- Much
- Life

[Illocust]

Wait, we now have proof Dems are all about the Feelz this is a day to celebrate!

[0x90]

I only took it to mean that the lion's share of left-wing tweeting is actually done by jezebel writers.

[GILMORE?]

Is the humor that conservatives prefer nouns, whereas liberals use adjectives, curses and "feelings"?

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[PM]

DYEL?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

I'd figure a golf cart to tool around on the elderly black man's new golf course that the city buys him.

[GILMORE?]

Yep. Basically Russia is saying that they will do for real what we've been *pretending to do*... they will intervene to defend Assad, knowing that we will never fight them directly.

whereas we were never willing to intervene to get rid of Assad, but rather just try and engineer a rebellion from afar which spiraled out of control and turned into an unholy mess.

The people who think Obama is a Grandmaster chess player in foreign affairs have a lot of explaining to do.

[Colonel Slanders]

"The people who think Obama is a Grandmaster chess player in foreign affairs have a lot of explaining to do." - Only if they are called on their bullshit and we know that they never will be.

[UnCivilServant]

The people who think Obama is a Grandmaster chess player in foreign affairs have a lot of explaining to do.

You kidding? This one is easy to spin "he got the Russians to fight ISIS for us". You clearly haven't dealt with as many rationalizing self-denialists as I have.

[Crusty Juggler]

Excellent is right.

[Colonel Slanders]

^^^This

[GILMORE?]

I guess you're right about the post facto rationalization-making. Reality is only as old as the previous explanation.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Has anyone called you a hero yet today? The fake handle thing is just so brave.