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No, American Taxpayers Shouldn't 'Compensate' Israel for the Iran Deal

The Obama administration, of course, is amenable.

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In The Joys of Yiddish, Leo Rosten defined chutzpah as "that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan." Today we have a new paradigm for chutzpah: the Israeli government's demand for "compensation" from the American taxpayers for the Iran nuclear agreement.

Israel's Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon told the Times of Israel that during U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter's visit the Israeli government would discuss "the compensation that Israel deserves in order to maintain its qualitative [military] edge" over Iran. The Obama administration of course is amenable.

Why does Israel deserve compensation (in addition to its $3 billion in U.S. aid every year)? If anything, Israel should compensate American taxpayers!

Iran is not—and was not going to become—a nuclear threat. American and Israeli intelligence have said so repeatedly. 

But even if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu were right about Iran's intentions, he should be rejoicing at the agreement, under which Iran will get rid of nearly all of its enriched uranium and two-thirds of its centrifuges. Its nuclear facilities will be open to even more intrusive inspections than they have been under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Even its non-nuclear military sites will be subject to inspection, an intrusion no other government—particularly the United States—would accept. And that is just the beginning. Uranium-enrichment research will be restricted, and construction of a heavy-water reactor, which would yield plutonium, will be scrapped.

The term for these various restrictions will begin at 10 years and lengthen from there, but this does not mean that Iran will later be free to do what it wants. As an NPT party (unlike nuclear monopolist Israel), it will always be subject to inspection by the International Atomic Energy Agency, which certifies that Iran has not diverted uranium to military purposes. 

What did Iran get in return for those concessions? Iranian money frozen since the 1979 Islamic revolution will be released and the economic warfare perpetrated by the United States and the rest of the world—euphemistically called "sanctions"—will eventually be ended. In other words, Iran can rejoin the world economy—its people relieved of cruel economic warfare—if it gives up a weapons program it never had, never wanted, and did not plan to pursue. Those crafty Iranians! They acquired thousands of centrifuges as bargaining chips to be traded away for peaceful commercial relations with the world.

Israel's rulers, like their American supporters, say they have another reason to hate the agreement. (For my own far different reservation, see this.) "Giving" Iran all that cash (it belongs to Iranians) will let the Islamic Republic pursue its aggressive aims in the Middle East, which include helping Israel's enemies, Hamas and Hezbollah.

Balderdash. Iran is not pursuing an aggressive policy in the Middle East, and it is sheer projection for an American or Israeli to make that charge. George W. Bush handed Shia-majority Iraq to Iran when he overthrew Iran's nemesis, Saddam Hussein. Barack Obama is siding with Iran against the Islamic State in Iraq. Iran's ally, Bashar al-Assad of Syria, is under assault by ISIS, al-Qaeda, and the United States. And the Houthis in Yemen, who get some Iranian help and are fighting al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, have long struggled against the central government for self-rule, in response to which U.S.-backed Saudi Arabia is waging a bloody war of aggression. 

Iran has supported Hamas, although the Palestinian group (like Israel) opposes Assad. But Hamas exists to resist Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands. Likewise, Hezbollah arose to resist Israeli occupation of and periodic attacks on southern Lebanon. While some of Hamas's and Hezbollah's tactics have indeed been atrocious, their raison d'être is opposition to Israeli aggression—not terrorism.

There is no Iranian imperialism. Nuclear Israel faces no threat. In the current turmoil it sides with Sunni Arabs, including al-Qaeda affiliates, against Iran, because turmoil serves Israel's interests and Iran is a ready-made bête noire. Why does Israel need a manufactured threat? Because if Americans knew the truth, they might focus on the Palestinians' plight. Israel and its Lobby cannot have that.

This piece originally appeared at Richman's "Free Association" blog. 

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  1. Yeah, but the goobers have yet to figure out that
    1) Israel already has nukes
    2) Our military force is to assure that Israel remains the sole nuclear power in the region.
    3) But of nobody else has nukes, why does Israel NEED them, except for more aggression, say the ISIS recruiters.

    Obviously, Israel’s Defense Minister is channeling Donald Trump!
    As George Custer continues devising our military strategy.

    1. It’s a doomsday device. Remember Masada?

  2. Yeah, but the goobers have yet to figure out that
    1) Israel already has nukes
    2) Our military force is to assure that Israel remains the sole nuclear power in the region.
    3) But of nobody else has nukes, why does Israel NEED them, except for more aggression, say the ISIS recruiters.

    Obviously, Israel’s Defense Minister is channeling Donald Trump!
    As George Custer continues devising our military strategy.

  3. A post and thread that is the perfect balance of derp.

  4. The crazy is strong in this one.

  5. All foreign aid is welfare.

    To be coerced to give is immoral, no matter for what reason.

  6. “Uranium-enrichment research will be restricted, and construction of a heavy-water reactor, which would yield plutonium, will be scrapped.”
    ?
    Is this the reactor Rouhani referred to in his speech?
    On the heavy water reactor at Arak: “[T]hey would say: ‘The reactor will remain but the heavy water [facility] is null [sic, apparently meaning that the Arak reactor will stay, but not as a heavy water reactor].’ This is an absolute red line for us. Today the terms were agreed; according to them, the Joint Comprehensive Plan Of Action explicitly notes the Arak heavy water reactor. This reactor will be completed with the same heavy water nature and with the characteristics noted in the agreement.”

    1. Yes. I suspect we will soon find other wall-paper covered holes in the treaty, and then any move to force compliance will be met with “what, do you want war?”

      Supposedly the deal about missiles now only “calls upon” Iran to not develop them.

      I hope the deal works, and even if it does, in 10 years we are back to square one.

      The idea that Iran’s young population will rise up and change Iran is a possibility, but Obama didn’t support them when that happened before, so why does he think its sure to work this time?

      Egypt has the same demographics, and the MB were only stopped by a coup.

  7. Once again Richman shows his anti-Israel bias. Should we stop giving foreign aid? Absolutely. We can stop sending Israel aid as soon as we stop sending money to:
    Egypt
    Jordan
    “Palestinian” Authority
    Pakistan
    Afghanistan (remove our troops and let those stone age goat fuckers go to hell)
    et al

    And the reason that Israel says Iran won’t get nukes, is because they won’t let Iran get nukes.

    It isn’t anti-Semitism to criticize Israel. It is anti-Semitism to expect Israel to live up to something that no other country is expected to. Does the UN give even 10 percent of the vitriol dedicated to Israel for the following: to Russia for invading Crimea? For China and its occupation of Tibet? How about for Saudi Arabia and its cruelty towards women? Iran for executing homosexuals? Pakistan for anti-blasphemy laws? The Palestinian Authority for executing people for selling land to Jews?

    1. So your an anti Semite if you hold Israel to higher expectations than their backward neighbors. got it.

      1. Russia and China are backward? And neighbors?

        That’s how you spot anti-Semites.

        1. this is about Iran isn’t it? What compensation does Israel want for ‘Russia’ and ‘China’? How about ‘Luxembourg’, ‘Eire’ and the evil that is ‘Muscat’?

          1. The non-sequitur makes my head spin.

      2. Russia and China are two of the most powerful nations on the planet.

      3. It’s pretty obvious that Israel is largely good on balance and the Iranian regime is evil. Pretty simple when you get down to it.

    2. Dingdingding! You just won the “Pathetic Ignorant Shitstain of the Week” Award.

      Anti-Semite/Anti-Semitism – the most ignorant, racist braindead-pathetic crap ever spoken or put in print.

      If one says or does anything against blacks, they’re racist.
      If one says or does anything against Mexicans, Asians, {Insert non-white person here} – they’re racist.

      If one says or does anything against Jews – suddenly they’re “anti-Semitic” – like Jews are, somehow, better than EVERYONE ELSE ON THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET – which is patently false, in addition to being the very definition of ignorance and racism.

      In honor of Godwin’s Law, I call this corollary, “Draco’s Law.”

      Now. . . be off with you! There’s an education out there waiting for you to figure out what one is.

      1. “Mexicans” are a “race”?
        “Jews” are a “race”?

        *puts fingers to temple, a la Colombo…*

        “Help me understand this…”

        1. I guess I missed the memo, declaring that calling someone a wetback, chili-choking pepper-belly was no longer racist.

          Oh, wait – it still is!

          Sorry, fuckwit, you’ll have to try better than that.

      2. So you hate Jews, nicely done, trolling is not for you.

        1. I don’t hate anyone except for intentionally ignorant shitstains – congrats, you won.

    3. Further, how much of that “aid” is buying stuff from Israel?

  8. “Iran is not pursuing an aggressive policy in the Middle East.” Cute…

    1. Yes. That is not true. He should have said…’compared to the United States, Iran is not…’

      1. Compared to the United States, pretty much only ISIS qualifies as aggressive.

        1. Wow. We haven’t invaded nor military intervened in:
          Jordan
          Egypt
          Lebanon (at least not since Reagan pulled our marines out)
          Saudi Arabia
          UAE
          Yemen
          Oman
          et al

          SInce the 50s and the whole Iran fiasco with the CIA, we have intervened militarily:
          –Lebanon we had peacekeepers. And in gratitude Hezbollah killed over 200 US Servicemen
          –Kuwait we liberated from the invasion of Iraq
          –We invaded Iraq and yes liberated people from one of the worst dictators in the world. But I guess you don’t remember all the purple fingers from millions of Iraqis who got to vote in free election for the first time in their lives. We were also still technically in a state of war with them
          –We invaded Afghanistan (not technically the middle east, but what the hell) because the govt of Afghanistan (Taliban) was responsible for the training grounds for the group who attacked us on 9-11 and was harboring Osama bin Laden. The fact that we try to help the poor villagers and the fucking stone age goat fuckers don’t give a shit is a different issue.

          1. You left out Lybia and Syria (although I guess arming proxies doesn’t count in your evaluation).

            I was just riffing out of jester’s comment that Iran isn’t aggressive compared to the US, by saying that’s a pretty low bar and nearly everyone passes that test, especially looking at the last 2-3 decades.

            And yes, we invade with the best of intentions. If intentions translated to results, I’d agree with your relatively positive take on things. Unfortunately our achievements don’t stick, and that’s one of the many reasons we, at the very least, shouldn’t stick around for 5 years hoping to nation-build. It doesn’t work.

            1. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you that nation-building generally doesn’t work. Particularly with backwards fucks like Afghanistan. Although, we did help with Japan and Germany after WWII. And I think we may have had some success at Iraq if allowed to continue. Whether or not it would have been worth the thousands of dead US troops and billions spent is a completely different argument. But I just get very riled up at any argument that even approaches “well we interfered over there so no wonder they attacked us”.

            2. The last time Iran began a war or invaded another country was over 200 years ago.- 1798, to be exact.

              There aren’t many countries as non-aggressive as Iran.

            3. Yep, go in, grease the assholes and GTFO of there.

              If the worst actors are off the table there is a chance of a positive result when they are off the table. We were stupid enough to think hanging around was a good idea.

          2. “Liberated Iraq”

            You still believe that, don’t you? That’s adorable.

            1. It’s cute that you attempt to be condescending. Yet it is! Who’s my cute ll’ condescender? You are! Yes you are!

          3. I think the operative word should have been “interfered,” not “invaded.”
            Unless you really want to stretch the definition of “invasion.”

            On the other hand, I can not argue that pretty much every US “interference” has been a failure, both for the US and for the countries involved. Success rate ~0.00.

            Yes, But Reverend Draco’s assertion here is that “Iran hasn’t invaded anyone for over two centuries.”

            What’s missing from that ‘argument’ is that, by several measures, WWIII has already begun, but it’s not between any flag-carrying, national-military-uniform-wearing single “country” and another. So until people realize that This Time It IS ‘Different’ and some new terminology needs to be used, sure, it ain’t Iran… it’s a shitload of Islamist Fundamentalists from all around the world… with no particular national allegiance, but a to-the-death “allegiance” to the policies of the radical imams.

            Until that light goes on, the ‘let’s all sing kumbaya’ apologists will have the last (wrong) word.

    2. How do you define ‘aggressive’? There are no Iranian troops stationed outside Iran. The Iranians aren’t actively bombing large areas of South Asia – or the Americas. The Iranians haven’t had to launch their army into any rocket-firing enclaves or even put down an armed resistance or rebellion. So, who’s aggressive, again?

      1. What a selective analysis. Instead they spend all the money not spent developing a nuclear arsenal bankrolling terror around the world. And funding the bad guys in places like Yemen.

        1. “And funding the bad guys in places like Yemen.”

          The Shia in Yemen are fighting al Qaida. Does that make them bad guys or did you have something else in mind?

        2. What a selective analysis. Instead they spend all the money not spent developing a nuclear arsenal bankrolling terror around the world. And funding the bad guys in places like Yemen.

          And that magically makes them different than the United States and Israel, who have been doing the same goddamn things, how? I have to ask, were you born with your head shoved up your ass or did it take you time to learn to cram it in there?

          1. Here’s the deal asshat, israel and the us at least pretend to respect the rule of law and spend a lot of money trying to mitigate the disaster that is Gaza, though it’s pointless when assholes like you seem to dominate the debate.

            Your pals in Gaza allow no freedom, are happy that they have lots of cannon fodder in their civilian population that can be used in conflict as human shields.

            That’s despicable, shitstains like you should be drummed out of humanity.

            I take that back, you should be mocked by anyone that is concerned about liberty, as a lot of innocent people have died on your altar. Fuck off.

            1. israel and the us at least pretend to respect the rule of law

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh wait, you’re serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

              Your pals in Gaza allow no freedom, are happy that they have lots of cannon fodder in their civilian population that can be used in conflict as human shields.

              Ah yes, if I am opposed to the United States and Israel doing their fuckery it MUST mean I support Hamas, Hezbollah and the Statists in Iran! God, I do so love the stupidity of binary-thinking assholes. Fuck, you would think morons like you could have figured it out by now that you cannot win unless you either give some ground or complete the destruction and make a desert of any place with resistance (paraphrasing Tacitus).

              I take that back, you should be mocked by anyone that is concerned about liberty, as a lot of innocent people have died on your altar. Fuck off.

              That word, liberty, I do not think you know what it means. Not surprisingly as you sound totally TEAM RED!!!!!!

      2. There are plenty of Iranians in Iraq and Syria, you fucking idiot.

        1. Yes, they happen to be the native population in the southern half of Iraq (a fictional State carved out of the territories of 3 nations: Sunni Arab, Shia Persian and Kurdic peoples).

  9. From USAID ‘Greenbook’ (2012)
    Millions of dollars:
    1,135 to Jordan
    1,404 to Egypt
    1,940 to Iraq
    457 to West Bank
    298 to Sudan
    444 to South Sudan
    388 to Dem Rep of Congo
    354 to Uganda
    749 to Kenya
    419 to Somalia
    335 to Nigeria
    225 to Lebanon

    Total USAID: 48,426

    Yep but we better cut off Israel because those Jew bastards have the balls to put up a fence to stop terrorism. And the temerity to try to stop rockets from being sent from Gaza. Jews were alot better when they just behaved themselves and got onto the damn railcars without putting up a fight.

    1. It’s very telling that you left off Israel in your comparison.

      Considering they take 3,100.10 million, more than any other country besides Afghanistan (Where we just had an active war). Also Israel’s GDP is $286.840 million, whereas somewhere like Jordan is only $83.338 million. Why does a country that is relatively rich need 2x the amount of aid money?

      1. I left it off because Richman stated the 3 billion in his article. Because Jordan (nor any of the other countries on the list) doesn’t have millions of people (and several governments) in other countries that either have the stated goal, or at least an unstated but obvious desire to wipe them out.

        1. Actually, you have to compare apples to apples. The idea that we’re stuffing $3B into suitcases and handing it to Israel is purely a perfervid hallucination, generally restricted to crackpots like Hihn and retarded Jew-haters like Richman.

      2. Israel’s GDP is $286.840 million

        Ummm…. really? Less than the GDP of Vermont?

      3. Hint: its all military aid that comes right back as orders for our military products.

        Now…why would Israel need more military aid than Jordan?

        Hmmmmm, i’m not sure. Its not like Israel has ever fought wars with its neighbors.

      4. Israel is actually an ally, and are good. Not evil. I doubt yo can recognize that.

      5. Because “anti-semitism!”

      6. And I would suggest that the table be expanded to indicate the GDP’s of those countries as well as their R&D expenditures in the areas of science, technology and stuff they might actually export to other countries (other than terrorists.)
        Companies in Israel have had a continual flow of inventions and discoveries that have been of great benefit to the US (and I DON’T mean just to the congressional districts of congressmonkeys with defense contractors in their gerrymandered areas, either.)

        Apples to apples, sure! and peaches to peaches, strawberries to strawberries, integrated circuits to integrated circuits, irrigation technology to irrigation technology….

        California is just now beginning to wake up to the desalination solutions Israel has been practicing for decades.

    2. I have an idea. Let’s cut off aid to All of them, and then let them sort each other out?

    3. Those ‘Jew bastards’ got a lot more USAID that the sum total of all the Arab states. Toss in Afghanistan for good measure. 3 100 million to be precise – compared to 2 500 million the total for the list cited above.

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  12. Should the US stop all foreign aid – yes.

    Is Sheldon Richman a lying sack of shit – yes.

    1. I like your journalistic style.

  13. As increasing comes out day by day, much of the actual detail of the Iran agreement is pushed forward to be detailed by the UN. Not a promising development since the UN is primarily interested in seeing the Israeli’s killed and the land given back to the “proper” owners, ie, the Palastinians.

    1. Which land is that, the land it’s settlers are illegally squatting on instead of attempting a real peace agreement?

      1. Talking points are so much better than reality.

      2. The land the Israelis rightfully claimed after Muslim aggression.

      3. You lose all credibility with deliberately obtuse statements like that.

      4. How about Gaza where in 2005 the Israeli government forcibly removed every fucking Jew. Did the people there say “Thank you Israel for making what was an obviously very painful step towards peace. We shall endeavor to show the world what a wonderful we can Gaza.”? Ah no. Just vote in Hamas (which in their charter STILL states destroying Israel is one of their main goals), build tunnels to smuggle terrorists in and send over thousands of rockets.

        1. “How about Gaza where in 2005 the Israeli government forcibly removed every fucking Jew.”

          That was over 10 years ago, and it should be obvious by now, that gesture was not enough. If the Israelis want peace, they’ll have to do better than that.

          1. I know, right? What have you done for me lately?
            They should probably just line up 1 out of every 10 Israelis and gun them down. At least that would be a good first “gesture”.

            1. “They should probably just line up 1 out of every 10 Israelis and gun them down.”

              You still don’t get it, do you? This comes down to a squabble over land. Israel can gun down all the people it likes and it won’t change that.

            2. Let’s not forget that it was the allies after WWII who arbitrarily gave Israel to the Jews. No one asked the Palestinians about it. And the allies did it because none of them wanted the post-WWII migrant Jews in their countries either, those nice, diversity-loving fellows.

              If Russia took a bunch of Mexicans and then proclaimed that California now belonged to them, gave them billions in defense funding for cutting edge hardware, would we Americans just sit back and allow ourselves to get fist-fucked?

              Seriously, where did all these neo-cons come from all of the sudden? Go crawl back to team red. None of you would ever piss away your votes on a LP presidential candidate anyways. You’re all less-of-two-evils voters. Stop deluding yourselves and just accept you are: Republicans.

              1. Yea, they seem to literally have crawled out of the woodwork for this one….

          2. You mean when Israel left Gaza and an infrastructure of greenhouses that could have been used to develop agricultural exports and a real economy… which Hamas immediately destroyed? Yeah… those ‘lousy Jews’…. Moron.

            As for land ‘ownership,’ there is only ONE thing that defines ‘land ownership’…. Can you defend it from someone who wants to take it from you and occupy it.

            Always been that way and always will. If the current “owner” can kick your ass out, you can’t ‘have’ their land. Tough shit. Go complain to the UN, which will pass a resolution condemning the guys who CAN defend their land from the thieves and moochers.

            Or you can deny the rationale of my statement. Give it a try. Give us some examples.

          3. mtrueman hates the joos, I wonder why?

            1. “mtrueman hates the joos, I wonder why?”

              mtrueman hates normal people too. Don’t take it personally.

  14. The agreement on site inspections is pretty meaningless in that Iran was required to do this before and simply refused the inspectors access or delayed inspectors access.

    In general, this agreement is unenforcible except by returning to the same measures that we are not relaxing. Measures that took decades to crank up and will again. So what exactly is taking place? Iran gets real relief in exchange for promises of future “good” behavior.

    The effective alternatives are few;

    We could go to conventional war with Iran. So long as our objectives were limited to eliminating the nuclear facilities and capabilities we could do this, but we certainly lack the will to do this considering the US casualties involved.

    We could just use our ground penetrating nukes to eliminate the Iranian capabilities, but we are unwilling to do this for a variety of reasons. Widespread international condemnation, internal politics, and even exposure of our actual capabilities. (or lack of)

    We could maintain and expand the current measures, except they rely on cooperation of our European allies, and that is iffy at best.

    We could tell the truth and admit that there is nothing we can do that we will do and mind our own business. Clearly we CAN’T do THAT, so we get this line of BS from Sheldon trying to cover a toxic dump site with a baby blanket.

    1. I’m glad you have the full faith of your own government. I don’t as much. I’ve found that they are capable of some douchiness that I can’t always sign on to.

    2. Spot on

  15. I don’t get all the Sheldon Richman hate and I’m glad Reason posts his views. All of these Middle East experts should be reminded that even really super smart people like Henry Kissinger and Paul Wolfowitz occasionally get things wrong. Enough said…on with your hubris.

    1. Well his policy prescriptions are usually reasonable (though tilting strongly on the non-interventionist side, not that there’s anything wrong with that). He just insists on pretending the US (and Israel) are the only nations with aggressive foreign policies:

      – His take on Russia/Ukraine is that we’re at fault for encouraging the protestors, and that offering Russia’s neighbours to join NATO is the sole reason (and sufficient justification) for Russia invading them.
      – There’s his article comparing the guy in American Sniper to Adam Lanza.
      – And his history vis-a-vis Iran still treats them as essentially innocent of all charges.

      Now mind you, I think that staying out of Ukraine, Iraq and Iran are good ideas, regardless of whether the people involved there are angels or not. But Richmann disregards a lot of his own advice about reaching out to the other side when he insists on casting everything in Manichean terms, with the US as the bad guy. He’d have a much easier time convincing people if he didn’t do that.

      1. When it comes to the middle east we absolutely are the bad guys, sorry. We’re constantly overthrowing and sponsoring a multitude of governments, we bomb 2-3 ME countries per year even between pointless wars, we decide who gets what and why, we’ll arm one group in country A while we’re actively fighting them in country B even if they’ve committed an act of war against us in the past.

        It’s a region prone to sectarian violence, surely, but let’s not pretend that we haven’t schizophrenically destabilized dozens of countries there for decades and decades and decades. Virtually every beef active in the ME is easily traceable back to some hegemonic decree we made.

        Iran being the perfect example. Either openly or clandestinely we’ve destroyed their national government numerous times in the twentieth century and then all of Matlocks here sit around and wonder why they want nukes and get super lippy the second we stick our dicks in their soup.

        Yeah, what mysterious and irrational bad guys. If only we knew what made them tick!

        1. You seem to think Zinn is some sort of authority when it comes to history.

          You are wrong, brocahco…

        2. Virtually every beef active in the ME is easily traceable back to some hegemonic decree we made.

          Very late comment, but you’re utterly historically illiterate if you think every problem in the Middle East is caused by American hegemonic decree. The collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the emergence of Arabic nationalism, the Paris 1919 Peace Conference and the general plans of the major colonial European powers up until the late 60s has a lot more to do with it.

    2. Sheldon’s sole contribution is that his articles are often like a punchline to a joke.

  16. Funny thing,the U.S never gave aid or weapons to Israel till they were given help during the Yom Kippur war.And ,even though it was known the arab countries were going to attack,,the King of Jprden told them so,,with soviet,help,Kissenger warned them not attack frist or they would recieve ‘not one nail’. The money they recieve now was part of the deal Jimmy Carter made between them and Egypt.Let’s just cut off every country. Israel has a very good defense industry,the only one in the Middle East and better in quality then even Russia and China. .

    1. Spot on. Even Israeli hawks I know would be fine with US stopping foreign aid, as long as it was evenly cut off, and as long as the US butted out of the “peace negotiations”.

      1. Even Israeli hawks I know would be fine with US stopping foreign aid, as long as it was evenly cut off, and as long as the US butted out of the “peace negotiations”.

        So why do they come to the US begging for more money and political support?

        Fact is that Israeli hawks like to posture and brag about Israeli self-sufficiency and manliness, but at the same time, they keep asking for US support. To maintain the fiction of their own prowess, they construct these elaborate fictions about “compensation” and obligations. It’s pathetic.

        The US should call their bluff and pull out of the Middle East: no more financial support for anybody in the region, no more military support, no more political support. The problems in the Middle East are the result of European imperialism and European genocides, let Europe pick up the tab and deal with the fallout.

    2. One reason to keep the aid flowing, and I hate to say this, but its a lever against Israel selling its US-assisted tech to our enemies.

      Israel has a bad habit of trying to sell arms that used our tech to China, etc.

      1. Come up with something to back that assertion, harun.

      2. One reason to keep the aid flowing, and I hate to say this, but its a lever against Israel selling its US-assisted tech to our enemies.

        Technology becomes obsolete so quickly that that hardly matters.

        And the US should obviously stop sharing advanced military technologies with any and all nations involved in conflicts or with dubious governments, whether it’s Israel, Pakistan, India, or Saudi Arabia.

  17. In 1948 a region was partitioned into 2 sections, one primarily Muslim and one non-muslim. These two areas have been in a state of conflict of varying levels since they were partitioned. Currently one of these regions receives 10 times the US aid that the other one receives.
    I bet you think the new state is illegitimate and should receive the vast majority of UN resolutions against it. Or at least be forced into peace negotiations with its neighbor.

    If you know that the new state that was created was Pakistan, congratulations. When Richman is willing to spend half as much time criticizing Pakistan (the recipient of $1.2 Billion dollars annually) as he does Israel, then I will take him seriously.

    1. I believe Pakistan lost part of their county due to horrible war crimes.The U.S backed them over the rebles and India ( Kissenger again } and it has not worked out well. Leaving the Afgans and Pakistan to their own devices would be the best thing for the U.S.

    2. Ah, Bear… any comments on the RESULTS of that ‘disproportionate giving of money’ to Israel versus Afghanistan?

      If that were the measure, one might logically conclude that Afghanistan, with a fraction of the money Israel received, should have demonstrated a level of economic and cultural “success” in proportion… They should be about ‘1/3 as developed’ as Israel? Or whatever ratio you’d like to provide?

      And …. they’re not. The driving force is NOT the number of dollars… it’s what they DO with the money. Planning any vacation holidays to Afghanistan soon? Didn’t think so… and why not?
      They’d probably love your tourism dollars, wouldn’t they? Cause? Effect? D’oh?!

    3. I bet you think the new state is illegitimate and should receive the vast majority of UN resolutions against it. Or at least be forced into peace negotiations with its neighbor.

      Not at all. Israel and Pakistan should be treated the same way, namely like most of the some one hundred other shithole nations that exist around the world. That is, we shouldn’t give them special aid (other than emergency humanitarian aid), get involved in their internal or external politics, or cooperate with them on defense. The US government shouldn’t sanction them, nor should it favor trade with them.

  18. If it’s such a great deal, why does anyone need to be compensated?

  19. Iran armed Al Qaeda in Iraq throughout the bulk of war there and is partially responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American troops. Al Qaeda in Iraq which became ISIS.

    1. Al Qaeda in Iraq that was being held in check by Saddam Hussein until we created a power vacuum. But whatever. Good intentions, right?

      1. Richman wants to claim that Iran isn’t aggressive. He ignores entirely the active role they took in Iraq as they gleefully fueled violence that killed Americans and Iraqis alike. All to gain what? They already bought influence with the Shiite government. What they wanted were dead Americans.

        So fuck you and fuck Richman for pretending that Iran is some peaceful, benevolent nation that just wants nuclear energy.

        1. ” All to gain what? ”

          Gaining the knowledge and experience at repelling American invaders without having to resort to nuclear weapons or threats is a chance not to be missed.

          “What they wanted were dead Americans.”

          And, believe it or not, the Americans were cooperative enough to give them what they wanted, sending soldiers voluntarily right to their doorstep, ready and willing to sacrifice themselves.

        2. The last time Iran started a war or invaded another country was in 1798. . . Painting Iran as peaceful is no stretch – it only takes a cursory glance at history.

          1. Right, dumbfuck, killing Jews in Argentina 25 years ago doesn’t count with the present group of of ayatollahs.

            You are not very good at trolling, asshole.

      2. Close, but it’s worse than that: there was no al Qaeda in Iraq until after we took Saddam out.

        1. Even then, there really wasn’t much of an Al Qaeda presence in Iraq for very long. The Insurgents killed them too (they were invading foreigners as much as the US). Too many low information people confuse insurgents with terrorists as it is….

  20. ‘Compenste’ Israel? For what? Israel still opposes the deal. Israel could negate the deal by unilaterally attacking Iran as it has often threatened to do.

    As Israel is so fond of claiming, in regard to Iran, nothing should be given until there is a ‘clear change of attitude’.

  21. I wonder about this deal.

    Why weren’t the Saudis and Israel at the table?

    Its like negotiating over Czechoslovakia and they weren’t at the table.

    1. Sh. We are supposed to pretend that how the major players in the region view the agreement doesn’t matter because we find them icky. As if they aren’t the ones most immediately impacted by it, and their buy-in isn’t essential to making it work.

      1. This is like the Congress of Vienna Versailles and the end of WW 2 The ‘great powers ‘ make a deal and all others should bow down to them.Isreal,Saudi Arabia ,Jordan,egypt and the gulf states should have been involved. Helll most of this mess traces back to British,French and Soviet power plays.

        1. “Isreal,Saudi Arabia ,Jordan,egypt and the gulf states”

          Nothing is stopping these nations from entering into negotiations with Iran. They just have to follow America’s lead and have something valuable to offer Iran.

          1. You fucking idiot, they won’t be negotiating with Iran, they will be buying nukes from Pakistan, since they are all Sunnis.

            Hurray, a ton of middle Eastern countries have nukes with shaky governance, what could go wrong. Keep showing us your stupidity, trueman.

            1. Ummm, why would Pakistan sell them? They have to worry about India and the idea they are just going to sell them to those states is illogical at best.

  22. Sheldon after Iran tests a nuke: “So what if Iran has the bomb, Iran has never actually used one unlike the imperialist United States, also Israel is evil.”

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  24. “Its nuclear facilities will be open to even more intrusive inspections than they have been under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Even its non-nuclear military sites will be subject to inspection, an intrusion no other government?particularly the United States?would accept.”

    So I guess you missed the little revelation today that, if Iran is suspected of cheating, inspectors won’t be allowed to go to that site and take samples for themselves. IRAN WILL PROVIDE THE SAMPLES TO THE INSPECTORS.

    Crack negotiating skills by your pals, eh, Richman?

    FFS…

  25. No shit, though I’m not sure he qualifies as a self hating jew, I ‘m not Jewish nor know if he’s a Jew.

    If he is the shoe kinda fits.

  26. Israel’s beef is with an anti-Semite B. Hussein 0bummer and his Wormtounge Iranian puppet master, Valerie Jarrett, not the American taxpayer.

  27. Balderdash? I don’t know how you can possibly deny something that is so clearly documented. Even Al Monitor talks about it. http://www.al-monitor.com/puls…..amas.html#

    Also, the fact that Israel has nuclear missiles is strictly for defense. Nobody is concerned that Israel is going to nuke anybody without being likewise provoked.

    Furthermore, Saudi Arabia is being compensated with weaponry. Why shouldn’t Israel be compensated to protect against Iran, whose leaders have said many times its intent to wipe Israel off the map?

    Your attempt to define the epitome of Chutzpah by Israel’s request for compensation is based on naivete of the deal itself and Iran’s overall intentions. True, Iran became strengthened because of Bush’s follies, but this deal is not going to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, and they’ll be all the more strengthened with steady cash flow. The President is gambling that Iran’s moderates (a large segment of the population) will be strengthened and determine the country’s future. But that is quite a gamble. Israel has reason to be very concerned.
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    1. Your attempt to define the epitome of Chutzpah by Israel’s request for compensation is based on naivete of the deal itself and Iran’s overall intentions.

      No, it is based on the fact that the term “compensation” implies a moral or legal obligation, which simply doesn’t exist on the part of the US. The US has voluntarily and selflessly spent vast amounts of money in order to support Israel.

      Ya’alon needs to understand that if we’re going to spend more money on Israel, it will be because it is of benefit to us, not because greedy little shits like him demand “compensation”. And, frankly, the political and strategic rationale for supporting Israel in any form is wearing pretty thin anyway.

  28. Do not ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for Israel

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  30. “the compensation that Israel deserves in order to maintain its qualitative [military] edge” over Iran

    The compensation Israel gets is that its neighbors won’t wipe it off the map. If that’s not good enough for Mr. Ya’alon, that’s too bad for him.

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