National Service

To Destroy ISIS, Conscript Millennials, Says Baby Boomer Journalist

I am a millennial, get me out of here!

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National Journal's Ron Fournier has come up with a frightening, ageist approach to defeating ISIS: enslave the millennials! He explains:

I know a better way to fight ISIS. It starts with an idea that should appeal the better angels of both hawks and doves: National service for all 18- to 28-years-olds.

Require virtually every young American—the civic-minded millennial generation—to complete a year of service through programs such as Teach for America, AmeriCorps, the Peace Corps, or the U.S. military, and two things will happen:

1. Virtually every American family will become intimately invested in the nation's biggest challenges, including poverty, education, income inequality, and America's place in a world afire.

2. Military recruiting will rise to meet threats posed by ISIS and other terrorist networks, giving more people skin in a very dangerous game.

The tone of Fournier's column suggests that he considers mandatory national service a compromise in light of political realism—he would clearly prefer to restore the draft outright. This "compromise" idea is less horrifying than the draft, but not by a whole lot.

Disclaimer: I'm a millennial. I'm 26-years-old. I'm married and have a surprisingly steady job writing about why the government sucks. I'm supposed to just set all that aside for a year to work for causes I either don't support, or actively oppose?

There are so many things wrong with this idea. For starters, it violates the principles upon which this nation was founded—that all men and women have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. While the Supreme Court has never held that mandatory national service violates the Constitution, the language of the Thirteen Amendment seems pretty clear to me: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States."

At the root of Fournier's plan is a more insidiously evil notion: that millennials aren't doing anything worthwhile with their lives right now, and their time would be better spent in Teach for America, or the Army. There's some anti-market thinking at work here, since typically, the activities that free people choose for themselves are more productive and profitable than the ones totalitarian governments assign to them. This is why the comparatively less meddlesome U.S. government is generally in better shape than, say, Venezuela. Fournier is essentially saying that in order to defeat our enemies, we have to mimic their levels of disrespect for individual freedom.

In the October 2014 issue of Reason, Elizabeth Nolan Brown wrote about all the interesting entrepreneurial things hipster capitalists are doing:

The very things seen as most portending of millennial doom-their overinflated sense of self-esteem and the stagnant economy-may have, when taken together, inspired a new paradigm. For millennials, when life gives you lemons, you make artisanal, small-batch beef jerky. Or start a cargo-bike delivery service. A yoga studio. A craft brewery. A combo cocktail and pie bar. An app-based laundry pickup service. Depending on which survey you consult, 30 to 80 percent of millennials aim to be self-employed at some point in their careers.

I suppose one could possibly justify forcing people to give this up and join the military if the U.S. were facing an imminent end-of-the-world conflict. But ISIS poses no threat to national security; it's a problem for the Middle East—a region that has never benefitted from heavy U.S. involvement in its affairs. In fact, ISIS arose from the ashes of the previous U.S.-sponsored war to sanitize the Middle East. Our record suggests that a concentrated effort to destroy ISIS would only produce Super ISIS.

This goal is worth the mass conscription of millennials? Hell no. I have a better idea. Let's deploy tired, lazy, out-of-touch Baby Boomer journalists to fight ISIS. That would free up some jobs for younger, harder-working writers who actually have novel ideas about productively improving the country. And we wouldn't have to read any more of these lazy columns about the need for involuntary national service!

Any takers?

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  1. Conscripting our youth into slavery is surely a great idea that should be supported by all, says idiot.

    1. You know who else was a big proponent of National Service?

      1. JFK?

      2. The answer is always Mao, isn’t it?

      3. Bill Clinton? (He plainly thought that Monica was performing a national service)

      4. Obama!

      5. Cliff Claven? Errh, sorry I thought you said POSTAL service

      6. Charlie Rangel

    2. That’s ultimately why the US was defeated in the Vietnam war. An army of slaves is no match for an army of free men.

      1. The tank columns of the NVA rolling into Saigon were comprised of “free men”?

        South Vietnam had conscription too – it was a battle of slave armies, and the Soviet equipped one won.

        1. “South Vietnam had conscription too”

          Yes and they were allies with the slave army from the USA. The NLF on the other hand did not conscript. It was voluntary, I would have thought that Libertarians could appreciate the difference.

          1. The US Army was long gone when the T-55s and T72s rolled into Saigon. The draft, thankfully was doomed too.

      2. The US was not defeated by an army of Free Men.

        In fact the US military was not defeated in Vietnam. We literally won every single battle of significance and when we left had forced the North into a negotiated peace accord AND effectively trained the ARVN to actually be a credible fighting force capable of holding it’s own territory against what was left of the VA and NVA in the South. 2 years after that North Vietnam invaded the South in a very conventional invasion using more armor and vehicles than Germany used to invade the Soviet Union and still the massively outnumbered and outgunned ARVN held the line for several days until the US Congress voted to not send the aid we had agreed by treaty to provide to help stop that invasion and then their spirit broke and the South Fell.

        The US was absolutely politically defeated and a LOT of problems with our conscript army were exposed but Neither North Vietnam or the Viet Cong ever defeated our military

        1. “We literally won every single battle of significance”

          The American slave army also had more attractive uniforms. None of that’s enough to win a war though.

          1. None of that’s enough to win a war though

            Seems correct, of course. We didn’t win because we chose to not win. You win a war by utterly crushing your enemy and destroying their will and capability to fight. We could have done that, but we didn’t, so we lost.

            1. “You win a war by utterly crushing your enemy and destroying their will and capability to fight”

              You seem determined to learn the wrong lessons from the war. The Vietnamese won without utterly crushing and destroying their enemy. In the end, as at the start, their determination to win was clearer and stronger than their enemy, a dope addled army of slaves.

              1. The South Vietnamese weren’t crushed and destroyed? Odd, I seem to remember some Boat People settling around my town that might beg to differ.

                The US lost its will to keep fighting and left. Then they lost the will to even send $ instead of forces.

                1. Those who clung to notions like there ever was a nation called “South Vietnam” were defeated, and their dreams shattered to be sure. It was Vietnamese nationalists who were victorious.

                2. you are both wrong…there was one real winner…the military contractors and bankers who made loans and sold weapons to both sides of the war.

                  1. ok maybe that is two winners…fuck

              2. The Vietnamese won without utterly crushing and destroying their enemy

                Yes, they did utterly crush and destroy their enemy – the South Vietnamese Army. After we left, the NVA invaded and overran them. They were utterly destroyed and the NVA won.

                1. “Yes, they did utterly crush and destroy their enemy – the South Vietnamese Army”

                  Yes, but it wasn’t necessary to utterly destroy the slave army of the US. That’s what I meant when I earlier wrote: “The Vietnamese won without utterly crushing and destroying their enemy.” The ARVN was a paper tiger. Utterly crushing and destroying it was a foregone conclusion. It was a colonial army without the colonists.

                  1. I understand what you are saying. As long as the US Army was in the fight there was no way that the NVA would win. Since the US didn’t want to do what it would take to win (i.e. – destroy the NVA) it was a stalemate and with no real strategic reason to stay all the North had to do was inflict enough casualties and we would eventually leave – which we did. Once we left, the NVA was free to go ahead and do what it would take to win the war – crush the ARVN.

                    I am against conscription but the slave armies of Russia, the US and the UK did defeat the slave armies of Germany, Italy and Japan. Just sayin’… Thankfully I think conscription armies are unlikely to be employed in the the future – at least the near-future.

        2. As the saying goes “War is politics by other means”. If you didn’t acheive your political objective, you didn’t actually win the battles, regardless of how tactically dominant you were.

        3. I was no fan of either the Vietnam War nor the thesis that the US lost militarily. But stuff like this

          using more armor and vehicles than Germany used to invade the Soviet Union

          just smacks of hyperbole, so I will follow up in the only way possible:

          [Citation needed]

        4. “We literally won every single battle of significance ”
          If you won all of them and you still lost the war, they were not battles of significance. In fact “you” lost all of them, because at no time did you gain what you needed to gain without losing what you needed to avoid losing.

  2. I’m supposed to just set all that aside for a year to work for causes I either don’t support, or actively oppose?

    Look, Robby, do you want to have skin in this game, or not? If the answer is no, too bad.

    1. How much skin will you have after you step into a roadside bomb or a landmine?

      1. I think at that point it’s just that all your skin is in the game. Instead of being on you.

        1. You have to admit it is an interesting tactic to change voter demographics.

    2. The state owns him. It’s about time he starts paying dividends before settling down and paying off the national debt.

  3. “Require virtually every young American?the civic-minded millennial generation?to complete a year of service through programs such as Teach for America, AmeriCorps, the Peace Corps, or the U.S. military, and two things will happen:”

    No, three things. #3 will be that most kids will choose to work at the local soup kitchen rather than go to a sand-intensive country to get shot at.

    Wait, *four* things – they’ll vote against the people who messed with them. Or I hope they will.

    1. Does Fournier shill for “Big Casket” all the time or is this a new development?

      the last words an advocate for conscription should hear (over the whine of a motor) are “no, I said feet first!”

      1. the last words an advocate for conscription should hear (over the whine of a motor) are “no, I said feet first!”

        Great, now I’m getting weird looks from coworkers who are wondering what I’m laughing at. Nice one though.

    2. They become Mormons to go on Missions. Yup. Ask Mitt

    3. dead ones don’t vote….the rest will be on government funded unemployment and medicare when they get back and support moor big government titties…..as a the kids on mtv say “booom you just got punked”!!!

  4. Nothing is ever worth conscription,* sorry.

    *Not even scUM graduates that serve no legitimate purpose other than cannon fodder.**

    **Just kidding, I never would condone someone be used as cannon fodder. Especially when they could be delivering pizzas or pouring coffee.

    1. Whats the difference between a philosophy degree and a large pizza?

      1. I don’t know, Idle Hands, what is the difference between a philosophy degree and a large pizza?

        1. A large pizza can feed a family of four.

          1. *[rim shot]*

  5. What is it with the most draft-dodgingest generation in history and their obsession with drafting other generations?

    1. They are old enough to not be drafted anyone more. They also desperately want these problems solved but don’t want to pay for them so what better way than forced servitude?

    2. It’s just one manifestation of their rank hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness

      1. You think it’s boomers specifically or does this happen to every generation? (Like how having kids makes you forget what being a kid was like)

  6. This is why I think the word “hate” needs to be rehabilitated.

    Millennials, it’s okay to hate someone for wanting to conscript you and send you off to some God forsaken country to be shot at, wounded, killed, and generally bossed around.

    1. In fact, it’s probably the right thing to do.

      1. He should be taken out [to lunch] and [persuaded].

        1. Before Ron Fournier wants to force me into killing people, he should probably think about who my first target would be.

          1. I hate Stalinists, the Klan, and Nazis, but just because I hate them doesn’t mean I can’t reason with them.

            Hate isn’t the same thing as violence–although that’s what seems to have been preached to Millenials. Accusing someone of “hate” anymore is almost like an ad hominem attack.

            They call you a “hater”, but there’s nothing wrong with hating someone because they want to force you into the military against your will to go fight in Syria and Iraq.

            Accusing people of “hate” is totalitarian in a way. It’s one thing to condemn people for what they do–quite another to condemn them for how they feel. Social workers have a term for trying to control how other people feel–they call it “psychological abuse”.

            1. I’ve been called a “hater” for saying that I don’t care for Taylor Swift’s music. I’ve come to regard “hater” as the ad hominem of choice for those whose intellectual age is about 12.

            2. “but there’s nothing wrong with hating someone”

              Not a Christian, I take it.

              1. Even from that standpoint, it’s okay to hate the sin–if not the sinner.

                And if God hates anybody? Suffice it to say, I wouldn’t want to be a conscription enthusiast war-pig come judgement day.

                1. “Even from that standpoint”

                  You could just convert to Islam or Judaism. Then you could hate all you want.

                  1. “You could just convert to Islam or Judaism. Then you could hate all you want.”

                    So you don’t believe God really exists? You think his characteristics change if you change religions?

                    P.S. Congratulations–you’re a bigot.

                    1. ” Congratulations–you’re a bigot.”

                      No, I just know a little something about Christianity, the only religion of any size to put love above all else.

                      “So you don’t believe God really exists? ”

                      I lean towards atheism, and I believe that believers of different religions have different ideas about what (their) god is and is not.

          2. JUVENILE BLUSTER!

      2. Without question. Stand up for your Liberty, millennials. Tell people like Fournier that if they try to conscript you there will be blood in the streets.

      3. Growing up, I remember being chastized about diction, “You’re not starving.” “You don’t hate anything.” etc.

        Why do they other hate? Sometimes it really is the right thing to do.

    2. Millennials, it’s okay to hate someone for wanting to conscript you and send you off to some God forsaken country to be shot at, wounded, killed, and generally bossed around.

      Its also OK to hate someone for wanting to conscript and put you into forced labor advancing their pet causes.

  7. I suppose one could possibly justify forcing people to give this up and join the military if the U.S. were facing an imminent end-of-the-world conflict.

    In all seriousness, Robby, don’t ever give an inch on your principles. Slavery is NEVER justifiable. Never, never, never.

    1. Slave armies suck – in principle and practice. Anyone may choose one, or both reasons to oppose them.

      I get reeeealllly pissed off even hearing about slave-service.

    2. If defending your society requires enslavement, then maybe it’s not worth saving.

  8. If they’re off fighting ISIS they can’t be here rabble rousing and occupying things and raping each other. I say it’s a solid plan.

    1. You just want to keep all the rape for yourself selfish bastard.

      1. I’m told there’s plenty to go around.

        1. “You said rape twice.”

          “I like rape.”

  9. Maybe we can send them to war against micro-totalitarianism.

    http://humanevents.com/2015/06…..tarianism/

  10. We live in a world where you can be hounded out of your career and public life for making lameass jokes about having female coworkers, but not for making dead-serious proposals to enslave millions of people.

    1. Ron Fournier first – nothing stopping him from joining the good fight/works.

    2. Not quite the world you’d pictured yourself growing up in, eh? Looks like the joke’s on you.

    3. But it’s a SERIOUS PROPOSAL from a SERIOUS PERSON…

      Seriously retarded person, that is.

      1. Come on, man, comparing Fournier to a retarded person is just hurtful. None of the retarded people i’ve met have EVER proposed enslaving an entire generation.

    4. A damn good point.

  11. “This goal is worth the mass conscription of millennials? Hell no. I have a better idea. Let’s deploy tired, lazy, out-of-touch Baby Boomer journalists to fight ISIS.”

    For that, I will forgive the misplaced hyphens.

    Of course we’d save a lot more money if we conscripted *all* SS-eligible types who are sucking down Medicare funding. That Golden Oldies would die in greater numbers than millennials due to their relative enfeeblement would be a boon to our economy, as we could repurpose all the national wealth squandered on keeping these leeches alive toward more important goals, like socializing the cost of advanced kitchen robots capable of preparing Spaghetti Bolognese from scratch via remote command as we leave work.

    I’m beginning to understand the allure of all this “we” talk that collectivists seem to enjoy so much. Time for a national conversation about conscripting old farts into shooting wars. For the greater good.

    1. *not misplaced in the quotation provided

    2. The National Elder Conscription Act of 2015…

      Wasn’t it in The Forever War they had the “Elite Conscription Act” where they drafted all these science PhDs and such to go fight?

    3. Reminds me of this great read:

      http://www.amazon.com/Old-Mans…..0765348276

  12. I really don’t understand why everyone is so scared of ISIS, they’re just starting a country the old fashioned way. In fact judging them by who their enemies are they can’t be more than 75% evil.

    1. Isis Isis baby

    2. Not only this, but the imminent threat that ISIS poses is to the countries that it is busy carving up. Maybe those countries should fucking deal with it.

    3. Well I think it’s partly to do with how Mallory is a bitch and Archer is the world’s biggest douchebag.

  13. So Ron Fournier = Cytotoxic?

    1. Wouldn’t he have mentioned drone bombing everybody within 2500 miles of Mecca as part of the solution as well?

      1. In Cytotoxic’s defense global genocide might be a solution to middle eastern problems, but may lay tad on the immoral scale.

    2. I was just thinking that. The Cytotoxic Strategy.

      In case anyone missed it yesterday:

      Brochettaward|6.16.15 @ 5:10PM|#

      A day when Cytotoxic could go off and fight his own wars under his own flag? I’d like to see it…

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      Cytotoxic|6.16.15 @ 5:14PM|#

      Nope. My place is thinking. Fighting is someone else’s job.

      1. There’s times I wonder if Cytotoxic is joking, but it seems pretty certain he’s just a blood-thirsty POS.

        1. He’s not joking, ever. He thinks of himself as a rational objectivist and they don’t joke.

      2. chuckles.

      3. The best part about that idiocy is that history itself pretty definitively proves that generals and tacticians with actual combat experience tend to be vastly superior because they actually see and understand logistical or strategic flaws that can be corrected. If we look at the Romans, the ‘thinking’ aristocrats who sat around assuming they could out wit any barbarians got stomped by the Gauls, Germans or Italians while people like Marius or Sulla with actual combat experience in lower command roles succeeded. It really hasn’t changed since then, a lot of World War 2’s expert generals were ‘trained’ by lesser positions in the First World War, Russian Civil War, Mexican War, etc. It’s just pure braggart arrogance by Cytotoxic to separate ‘thinking’ and ‘fighting’ like they’re actual separate entities when it comes to combat.

          1. Eisenhower was a politician not a General.

            He did not fight any battles himself, he directed and coordinated the actions of multiple other Generals and his biggest job was to see to it that the Generals who were doing the actual fighting acted coherently and didn’t let their own personal vendettas ad personality cults take over.

            Basically Montgomery, Bradley, and Patton won the war, Eisenhowers only job was to ensure a steady supply of troops and materiel from the US and to keep those 3 from deciding to fight each other instead of the Germans

            1. “he directed and coordinated the actions of multiple other Generals”

              And he did so without the benefit of ever hearing a shot fired in anger.

    3. No, Fournier is just in NATO’s Armchair General Division with him. Where they can ‘think’ while other people fight.

      1. I’ve fought plenty – And, as I am able to think too, I can take the Field Marshal of the Sofa spot away from the toxic one.

  14. “I know a better way to fight ISIS. It starts with an idea that should appeal the better angels of both hawks and doves: National service for all 18- to 28-years-olds.”

    WIH would that idea appeal to doves?

    1. 1. The ‘doves’ won’t have to do any of the fighting, and
      2. The ‘doves’ can feel good about doing something that makes them feel good about themselves.

      1. So, “doves” = “hypocrites”?

    2. Because the vast majority of slave labor will not be in the military, it will be advancing the pet proggy causes of the “doves”.

    3. Some doves have the notion that if everybody’s children are drafted, including the rich and influential, that there will be fewer wars. History isn’t kind to this notion of course.

      1. Those are probably the same people who have the idea that if everybody’s kids, including the rich and influential, are forced into public schools, then the public school system will finally get fixed.

  15. What’s more evil income withholding or forced conscription?

    1. Forced conscription. I can make more money, I don’t get a second life.

    2. conscription – that is total enslavement, whereas withholding is a partial theft.

  16. This “compromise” idea is less horrifying than the draft, but not by a whole lot.

    Honestly, I’m not particularly convinced of that idea. I mean, sure, I’d rather plant trees than get stuck in a war zone. But, at least on a principled level, I can see that you can kinda sorta make a half-assed argument that the government ought to have the power to fight wars and can legitimately be able to call on the citizenry to take part in that effort. It’s still a shitty idea. It’s still a horrible betrayal of what makes America a country worth fighting for. But, it’s an argument I can see being made in good faith.

    But, Teach for America? AmeriCorps? What you’re talking about there are functions that the government ought not to even be involved with in the first place. I can see enslaving the citizenry to prevent an invasion. But, for social work?

    1. Agreed.
      The ‘social work’ alternative is evil on many levels, not the least being the presumption that it’s some ‘duty’ of the populace to engage in social work at all.
      It’s like those freeway signs where X company is cleaning the area. Screw that; I already pay taxes to clean up the damn roads.

    2. Bang on, Chip.

      They might as well put an “Arbeit Macht Frei” sign over the AmeriCorp offices if this goes through.

      Expanding the remit of the slavers to include domestic as well as foreign meddling is not a step in the right direction.

      And who believes for any instant that, with this big new pool of draftees, there won’t be some kind of domestic security force put together for them.

    3. I can see that you can kinda sorta make a half-assed argument that the government ought to have the power to fight wars and can legitimately be able to call on the citizenry to take part in that effort.

      You can’t make a half-arsed argument in favor of this without making the claim that the *government* has an ownership stake in you.

      The government can certainly *declare* a war, they can certainly *ask* the citizenry to take part in it, but the citizenry holds the final, absolute, veto over those wars – the freedom to not show up.

      1. And not just the government – you’d basically be forfeiting the whole ideological battle against the leftists by saying the our fellow citizens can enslave you to ‘defend’ them.

  17. Sending millennials would be a great idea. In the span of three years, instead of bombing, ISIS would be whining about whether to get an X-box one of Playstation 4 and were to find skinny jeans They’d be turned into douchebag hipsters. ISIS already has the beards. So the job is half-way done.

    DISCLAIMER: This is just hyperbole from the elderly asshat peanut gallery at Reason. It is not meant to besmirch the fine, hard-working millennial generation or imply that they should be enslaved to kill ISIS. Plainly, millennials should only be enslaved to provide us elderly people their essence like Gelflings.

    1. Yes, but one in five of them would be sexually assaulted and make 77 cents on the dollar or something…

    2. The reasonable way to enslave the millenials would be just to rack up a huge debt in their name and then force them live the rest of their lives being ground into poverty by the state, so that granny and grandpa can get their free Hover Round scooter to ferry them up and down the isles of Wal-Mart to buy Depends so that a tax subsidized nurse can change them out of their diaper 3 times a day.

      1. I dunno. I think it would be more entertaining to drain their essence.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NcaKMkPp_E

      2. Sad but true

  18. This is a very popular meme. “Skin in the game” is good, as long as it’s not mine.
    Also, WHERE’S OUR WAR TAX? MAKE DADDY WARBUX PAY.

    1. It’s funny how people calling for “more skin in the game” always end up calling for more of other people’s skin, but never their own.

  19. Wait, I’m (probably) older than one of the Reason editors? Man I’ve been here for a while.

  20. So Robby, do you know any young, hard working journalists with novel ideas that don’t write lazy columns? I hear reason will have a spot opening soon.

  21. I’m 26-years-old. I’m married and have a surprisingly steady job writing about why the government sucks. I’m supposed to just set all that aside for a year to work for causes I either don’t support, or actively oppose?

    Don’t worry, Robby. The Ministry of Plenty will find just the right person to take your place.

  22. Maybe we need to take a poll and ask what millennials think about this proposal.

    1. Has Reason done that previously???

  23. I owe no allegiance to this government. They are the enemy of all free men. They are my greatest fear and the greatest threat to my life, liberty and property of all the threats that exist in the fucking universe. This kind of slavery law won’t pass while I’m still in my youth but I’ll be god damned if the state is going to enslave my children in service to their thoroughly evil policy objectives.

  24. I can only shake my head at the notion that forcibly conscripting people into the military turns them into uber-patriots by some magical means. It’s a popular notion in certain circles, particularly circles filled with people who’ve never been in the military but think they’re Great Captains because they were the Risk champions of their fraternity. But it’s ridiculously wrong.

  25. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that Ron Fournier is an incredibly stupid person…

    1. If you follow him on twitter, you’ll see he’s quite dense and proud of it. The consummate progressive.

    2. He identified as smart so we should probably lynch him.

      *By lynch I mean woodchip and by woodchip I mean THIS IS FUCKING JOKE.

    3. He’s a pants shitter, if nothing else.

      He’d make a fine peace officer.

  26. If only the Constitution spoke clearly on this type of thing.

    Oh wait:

    “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

    Shit like this gets me down. I would feel a bit more chipper if I had faith that the Libertarian Moment were actually coming.

    1. *There’s* the answer.

      We’ll go all ‘Starcraft’ and conscript prisoners. Just bolt them into some power armor and point them at the enemy.

      ‘Course, we’ll need to more ‘War on . . . ‘ to ensure that we have a steady supply of prisoners.

  27. “I know a better way to fight ISIS. It starts with an idea that should appeal the better angels of both hawks and doves: National service for all 18- to 28-years-olds.”

    Angels. I don’t think this word means what he thinks it means.

      1. +666

  28. that millennials aren’t doing anything worthwhile with their lives right now, and their time would be better spent in Teach for America, or the Army

    getting out of our way so we can have the jobs you’re taking from us, and you can pay our social security and Medicare

    FTFY.

    I’m from a tiny in-between generation that used to be called “baby bust,” ~1960-1972, that got retroactively rolled into GenX. We are children of the children born just before their parents were shipped off to WWII (not technically Boomers). If you didn’t know how social security worked and who was going to be getting it, and that you were never going to see a penny of what you put in, you weren’t paying attention. I have never had a friend born in this tiny slice of time who didn’t resent/hate the shit out of the Boomers. They demanded everything from their parents and got it. They’re demanding everything from their children and getting it. Entitled brats with guns.

  29. Virtually every American family will become intimately invested in the nation’s biggest challenges

    I’m so tired of Nationalism.

    1. That is not even nationalism…”the nation’s biggest challenges” sounds like an old description of a CCCP “Hero Project”.

    1. You there, slaver, sirrah! Fuck off!

  30. Fournier’s insidiously evil notion is the basic premise behind most progressive ideas about capital, human or otherwise. When Bill Clinton told the country he was against lowering taxes because he did not think we would use our money on the proper purpose. It lurks behind Bernie Sanders assumption that a large consumer choice contributed to children going hungry. The premise that the State can put ypur resources, including your most basic resource, yourself, to better use than you can.

  31. At their advanced age and lack of experience with video games, Boomers lack the necessary hand-eye coordination required to drone strike from thousands of miles away.

  32. Why not send all to cops that want to act like they’re fuckin’ seals over there.

  33. All, the enduring appeal of slavery!

    How can anyone be against free labor? For all sorts of good causes?

    1. For all sorts of good causes?

      Them monocles don’t polish themselves.

    2. “What not to like Lana it’s free labor?”

  34. I’m 26, I’m married, have a child, a house, and a job that pays seriously good money. Fuck you Fournier, don’t you think it would be a bit disruptive to my family and my employer to zip me up in a body bag in Syria?

  35. Millenials are too lazy and would surrender en masse against any enemy they encounter.

    Clearly, the solution to this problem is to promise any Mexican national free US citizenship in exchange for one (1) ISIS scalp.

  36. I can see why it’s a bad idea, but some people need to see the world. They grow up here in the bubble of America, and know nothing of the rest of the world. TV and Internet can only tell them so much. They have to get out there and get knee-deep in it. What way would any of you come up with to help get the eyes of our youth opened?

    1. Yeah, a sentence of involuntary servitude would certainly get ‘our’ youth knee-deep in it.

  37. I make up to $90 an hour working from my home. My story is that I quit working at Walmart to work online and with a little effort I easily bring in around $40h to $86h? Someone was good to me by sharing this link with me, so now i am hoping i could help someone else out there by sharing this link… Try it, you won’t regret it!……
    http://www.freelance-cash.com

    1. Can we just conscript the spammers?

  38. Im still not sure how i feel about a mandatory service. I do think, however, that the Selective Service registration at age 18 needs to be changed and require girls to register as well.

  39. Im still not sure how i feel about a mandatory service. I do think, however, that the Selective Service registration at age 18 needs to be changed and require girls to register as well.

  40. Im still not sure how i feel about a mandatory service. I do think, however, that the Selective Service registration at age 18 needs to be changed and require girls to register as well.

  41. Im still not sure how i feel about a mandatory service. I do think, however, that the Selective Service registration at age 18 needs to be changed and require girls to register as well.

  42. Im still not sure how i feel about a mandatory service. I do think, however, that the Selective Service registration at age 18 needs to be changed and require girls to register as well.

  43. Im still not sure how i feel about a mandatory service. I do think, however, that the Selective Service registration at age 18 needs to be changed and require girls to register as well.

  44. Holy crap! That’ll teach me not to be impatient. Nothing was happening so i hit the submit button a ton of times. Refresh the page… And now theres a ton of posts.

  45. Until Millennials become more vocal and active politically, Baby Boomers and the political elite will continue to stifle them and turn the national conversation against them. Isn’t it convenient for Ron Fournier to volunteer a generation that is already saddled with funding his retirement? Even worse, 60% of Millennials believe that Social Security will be bankrupt by the time it is their turn to receive benefits. I believe that every American deserves the choice to opt out of the failing system that is Social Security. If you believe the same, I encourage you to stop by my site, http://takebackyoursixpercent.com check out the blog, and sign our petition that every American may have the choice to opt out of Social Security. -R.J. Renza, Jr.

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