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Boston U. Prof 'Absolutely Knew' She Was Taunting a Rape Survivor, Survivor Alleges

'Sickened' that Dr. Saida Grundy 'gets away with it'

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Incoming Boston University Assistant Sociology Professor Saida Grundy has drawn condemnation for racially insensitive tweets—white males are a "problem population," she wrote—and for derisively taunting a critic on Facebook. That critic, Meghan Chamberlin, self-identified as a survivor of rape during a Facebook argument over Patricia Arquette's infamous Oscars speech, but Grundy mocked her anyway with lines like "go cry somewhere since that's what u do," and "#whitegirltears," according to Fox News.

Grundy's remarks were objectively nasty, but they were also grossly insensitive, given Chamberlin's situation. Still, an important question remains: Did Grundy read what Chamberlin had written before she responded, or was the professor oblivious to the fact that she was mercilessly berating a survivor of rape?

Boston.com reporter Charlotte Wilder initially concluded—based on Chamberlin's own statements—that Grundy probably didn't know, before updating her post in light of an additional statement. The post was mildly critical of Fox News:

The woman Grundy is accused of trolling told Boston.com Tuesday afternoon that she didn't think Fox News got the story right. But she called back Tuesday evening, after speaking with a Fox News reporter, to say she did believe Grundy was aware that she had been raped when the professor argued with her online.

This much is not in dispute: Grundy got in an argument online with Meghan Chamberlin, a woman who is a survivor of sexual assault. According to Grundy's friend, Frank Miller, Grundy didn't know when she argued with Chamberlin that Chamberlin had ever been assaulted. …

Grundy declined to speak with Boston.com about her response to Chamberlin's comments. Fox News and Maxim Lott, the author of the article, did not respond to requests for comment. …

But Miller says Grundy responded to Chamberlin without clicking to read her full comment, and missed the context in which Charmberlin explained that she had been raped.

Grundy wasn't trolling a "rape victim," Miller says: She was arguing with a woman she didn't know had been raped.

"It blindsided her," Miller said. "She was like what? Who was raped?"

Wilder also spoke with Chamberlin; that interview produced some bizarre quotations:

When Boston.com first spoke with Chamberlin Tuesday, Chamberlin said she believed Grundy.

"I want brains like hers not in just higher education," Chamberlin said about Grundy. "I wish we could have that open-mindedness and critical thinking in more places. I would like it my kids' elementary school."

But in her later phone call to Boston.com, she said she believed that Grundy was aware that she had been raped when the argument took place.

Even with the additional hedge from the later phone conversation, Chamberlin comes off as more pro-Grundy than one would expect after reading the Facebook exchange.

I spoke with Chamberlin myself. She said those quotes were deprived of context—making her appear inaccurately sympathetic to Grundy—and invalidated by more current information. She told me that while she believes Grundy's perspective has value, she wasn't asserting that Grundy herself was the best representative of that perspective.

Chamberlin now believes that Grundy "absolutely knew" about the rape when she made her comments. The professor has not apologized.

"She knew who she was talking to," said Chamberlin. "I'm sickened that she gets away with getting to say nothing to me."

Still, Chamberlin added: "I don't want her to lose her job."

Chamberlin wants Wilder to take out her entire quote.

Wilder told me in an email that she believes the updated story accurately reflects the state of affairs:

It's as we explained in our story—Meghan Chamberlin said one thing in the afternoon, and then called back at night to say she had changed her mind. 

The story with her original comments had been live for more than four hours at that point, so we decided the best option was to update it with her saying she had changed her mind. We also added a prominent note at the top of the story pointing out that it included additional new comments from Meghan Chamberlin.

The entire Facebook exchange between Grundy and her critics can be viewed here. Chamberlin's full comment, in which she mentions her rape, can be viewed here.

Personally, I can't be certain of what Grundy knew or didn't know—and either way, I share Chamberlin's opinion that it would be wrong for Boston U. to fire the professor. Grundy should be free to share her views, even controversial and confrontational ones, without fear of institutional reprisal.

But I can't help but wonder how effective a teacher she will be. Angrily berating anyone who expresses disagreement isn't a good approach on Facebook, and it certainly isn't a good approach in the classroom. 

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  1. HATE SPEECH!

  2. I would have though basic English literacy and grasp of English grammar would have been a requirement to be a prof.

    1. For a black woman with degrees in sociology and women’s studies? STOP YOUR WHITE MALE OPPRESSION!

    2. And just what, in the history of Higher Education (not just here but in Europe) would lead you to that expectation. Colleges and Universities have ALWAYS been places to stash favored pets of the Social Elites, and qualifications for such trash are largely imaginary.

      Loooong history there.

    3. She doesn’t have to. She speaks fluent Eubonics.

      1. Is that like ebonics for eugenicists? Catchy.

  3. Holy christ Grundy is an utterly vile collectivist totalitarian piece of shit.

    1. I love that she continues to peddle the unequal pay bullshit.

      I’d love to see what her salary at Boston U is.

      1. From the FB exchange:

        Do you see how you just took an issue that WASNT about you, MADE it about you, and NOW want to play the victim when I take the time to explain to you some s**t that is literally $82,000 below my pay grade?

        Interpret that as you will. No idea if it’s supposed to mean she makes $82k, some unspecified amount above that, or what. And it was I guess a previous job anyway? Still.

        1. So that’s what MNG looks like.

        2. It’s utterly, bafflingly amazing that, after the last couple of years of punitive twitter mobs, people still don’t seem to grasp the concept that getting in pissing contests on social media is a losing proposition. It’s so easy for comments that would have seemed mundane and organic in conversation 20 years ago to be blasted across the whole damn planet and your livelihood destroyed for various forms of crimethink, much less a relatively high-profile professor doing her best Sheneneh impression towards a rape victim.

      2. FWIW: most recent survey of academic salaries finds that average salary for incoming prof in social sciences at four year school is about 73k. Of course, given that it’s across the country and includes a number of disciplines…

        Based on her bio at BU, I doubt she gets much above the average for a new prof. But again, those are averages.

        1. So that would make her salary 15% less than 73k?

        2. Huh. That’s pretty effin’ high, if you ask me. I used to be friends with an art professor (PhD in Art Ed.), and she didn’t make half of that (she wasn’t tenured at the time). Just twenty years ago. Shows what years of insanely high tuition will do.

          1. Yeah, the averages are pretty hard to figure. I’m significantly under the average for my field but, take into account all the variations it is not much more than a ballpark estimate.

          2. Just twenty years ago.

            Hell, inflation alone would probably have doubled a salary from 20 years ago.

            1. Not even half, and she wasn’t an incoming professor.

              1. Dang, Pro L. You’re right. I guess I’ve been permanently traumatized by living in the Inflation Years of the ’70s and ’80s.

            2. All the higher ed salary increases have gone to admin people. She should have gotten a diversity officer job – more money and it would seem to suit her temperment and opinions.

    2. #maletears

      1. #yourmaletearsaresoyummyandsweet

        I hate you for even making me make a hashtag joke. You really are the worst.

        #moremaletears

    3. Note that she also once set up a fake dating profile for a woman who was dating one of her ex-boyfriends. She escaped a felony conviction by pleading guilty to a misdemeanor.

      Other than those attacks on women, she’s an ally of women everywhere.

      1. I’ve found the more militant the feminist, the more she hates other women.

        1. I’ve found the more militant the feminist, the more she hates every single person on planet earth.

          FTFY

          1. I can’t disagree with that

          2. I think you have that backwards. Hating most of the human race is a prerequisite to becoming a militant feminist.

        2. Apostate is always worst than heathen, heretic worse than apostate!

      2. Of course someone that bonkers would embrace an ideology that renounces all personal responsibility because Patriarchy and racism control everything.

        1. Note that she also once set up a fake dating profile for a woman who was dating one of her ex-boyfriends.

          Funny how people like her, loud-mouthed, victim-whoring, collectivst activists, almost always turn out to be horrible people?

      3. She’s a keeper

    4. Grundy?

      “”I want brains like hers not in just higher education,” Chamberlin said about Grundy. “I wish we could have that open-mindedness and critical thinking in more places. I would like it my kids’ elementary school.”

      The basic “story” here (and never were derisive quotes more deserved) seems to be =

      “Two Self-Important Women Get Into Verbal Tiff on The Internet”

      The more-interesting Meta-Story seems to be, “And the Media Covers it Like its Actually Fucking News”…. because why? Because *Intersectionality Dissonance*…. ooooohhh, black woman versus rape victim!? WHO WILL WIN THE STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH OF VICTIMHOOD!! EXPLOSIONS??

      1. Her brain probably does belong in an elementary school.

        1. nice catch

          1. for the record, she only had one kid in her hypothetical. adjust scores accordingly.

        2. In a jar. Marked “Abnormal”.

          “Do you mean to tell me that I have placed the brain of a demented feminist in the body of a 300 lb. GORILLA?”

      2. If we get a verbal commitment from former President to preside over it we can make it a milestone!

      3. Hey man, don’t drag Mr. Torgue into this.

    5. Holy christ Grundy is an utterly vile collectivist totalitarian piece of shit.

      That’s it, buddy. You’re going to the Not-Fun camp!

      1. Good Lord, I was hoping to see someone bring him up.

    6. but her racism is totes ok

    7. “According to Grundy’s friend, Frank Miller…”

      Someone like this has a friend?

      Some people have no taste.

  4. Saida Grundy, born on a Monday.

    1. No.

      I have more respect for Soloman Grundy than Saida, don’t soil the undead behemoth’s good name by linking the two.

    2. Did Superman ever make any money, saving the world from ol’ Saida Grundy?

      1. +1 mmmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmmm

  5. “I want brains like hers not in just higher education,” Chamberlin said about Grundy. “I wish we could have that open-mindedness and critical thinking in more places. I would like it my kids’ elementary school.”

    Yeah, keep this psycho away from my kid.

    1. I didn’t read one comment from Grundy that was open-minded or involved critical thinking. All I saw was debunked minority women’s pay and a bunch of retarded racist bullshit about how white women can’t understand how hard it is to be a black woman and that they shouldn’t talk about women’s issues.

      (Which in and of itself is fucking stupid since white women are like 64% of the population. Never mind the ridiculousness of collectivization.)

  6. So, first she like believed that she knew, then she like said that probably she didn’t have like the context and then she said that she like absolutely knew.

    Someone needs to mansplain this to me. It’s like Gamergate all over again.

    1. I Like this.

  7. “Saida Grundy has drawn condemnation for racially insensitive tweets?white males are a “problem population,” she wrote?”

    Is there a ‘racially sensitive’ way of saying that?

    i.e. is it mere lack of ‘sensitivity’ in phrasing, or is the idea being expressed itself impossible to make “palatable” to the mind of sensitive-snowflakes?

    1. Personally, I would have respected her more if she had just said “Fuck crackers!”.

    2. Good point.

      Those aren’t “racially insensitive” tweets. “Racially insensitive” is wearing a sombrero and eating guac with your lily-white friends on Cinco de Mayo.

      They are racist, even eliminationist, tweets. Calling them racially insensitive diminishes how horrible they actually are.

      1. …my point was basically

        because obviously, *social-sensitivity*

        1. Whoops.

          That was a serious edit-fail there.

          My point was that this category of “racially insensitive” seems to encompass anything that might make someone, somewhere ‘uncomfortable’…

          It seems a pretty convenient way of ignoring the content of what people actually *say*, and providing any rebuttal of this commonly accepted nonsense.

          i..e. that ‘social sensitivity’ is somehow more important than reasoned dialogue

      2. Black people can’t be racist! Racism can only be from a position of power! The only power we have is to change dictionary definitions to meet our purposes!

        1. And college professors have no power at all. Even if you accept that racism can only come from someone in a position of power, in this day and age there sure as fuck are plenty of black people in such positions.

  8. I love it when chickens come home to roost.

    1. Once again, we see that projection rules the day. What do Grundy’s statements sound exactly like? The caricature of what she claims to be against. Grundy sounds exactly like what she would claim a privileged white male would sound like (just reverse the races and genders).

      And Chamberlain is basically going “wait…what…but we’re on the same TEAM…”

      They always eat themselves, don’t they.

      1. Yes, but not in a sexy sort of way.

        1. No, it’s more of a human centipede sort of way. A lot of shit gets passed from one to the next.

          “Eat the cuttlefish? OK.”

    2. Your poultry misogyny is noted.

      1. #killallroosters

  9. Doncha just love the way the infinitely expanding communication options lead to less and less understanding?

    Twitter, Facebook, etc. are decreasing the signal to noise ratio, to the point that they may result in a net decrease in actual communication.

    I for one am glad that I have zero (0) social networking accounts.

    1. Some of the good people of Hit & Run explained twitter formatting to me the other day.

      While I understand on paper what a ‘#’ in front of random words does, the signal-to-noise ratio was kind of exactly where my mind went with the whole thing.

    2. Yeah, it is impossible. I have a fake Facebook account, but I almost never use it for anything. Certainly not to have a meaningful discussion.
      The thing that really makes me sad is that people think that the bullshit they exchange on such platforms is actually some kind of high minded discussion

    3. Douglas Adams made that joke in Hitchhiker’s Guide: “Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.”

  10. “go cry somewhere since that’s what u do,” and “#whitegirltears

    I got about halfway through this post, trying to understand who said what to whom, and it suddenly hit me… we have now raised Jr. High level bitchy girls-locker-room spats to the level where it requires national media attention.

    1. I couldn’t even make it halfway through before I realized I didn’t give a shit.

    2. we have now raised Jr. High level bitchy girls-locker-room spats to university professor credentials

      1. Truly, The Heathers have won.

        1. Brett, why can’t you just be a friend? Why do you have to be such a mega-bitch?

          1. What’s your damage, Epi? Did you eat a brain tumor for breakfast?

            1. You were nothing before you met me. You were playing Barbies with Betty Finn. You were a Bluebird. You were a Brownie. You were a Girl Scout Cookie.

              1. Well, fuck me gently with a chainsaw.

                1. You just don’t get quality dialogue like that anymore.

    3. Good point. Could you imagine someone like Samuel Morison or Camille Paglia getting involved in shit like this.

      1. Alexander Pope and Jonathan Swift were bitchy like that, but they wrote better.

    4. ” we have now raised Jr. High level bitchy girls-locker-room spats to the level where it requires national media attention.”

      yep. my point exactly.

      that self-important women get into lady-spats on the intertubes is unremarkable.

      that a large cross-section of the news media somehow believes this to be of importance to the general public…. that is noteworthy.

      Everything is tabloid now.

    5. I could only get about 10% through… and decided to read the comments instead.

  11. What strikes me is that this woman is staggeringly stupid:

    “”^^THIS IS THE S**T I AM TALKING ABOUT. WHY DO YOU GET TO PLAY THE VICTIM EVERY TIME PEOPLE OF COLOR AND OUR ALLIES WANT TO POINT OUT RACISM. my CLAWS?? Do you see how you just took an issue that WASNT about you, MADE it about you, and NOW want to play the victim when I take the time to explain to you some s**t that is literally $82,000 below my pay grade? And then you promote your #whitegirltears like that’s some badge you get to wear? YOU BENEFIT FROM RACISM. WE’RE EXPLAINING THAT TO YOU and you’re vilifying my act of intellectual altruism by saying i stuck my “claws” into you?””

    Intellectual altruism? She writes like a very unintelligent teenager.

    1. But Irish, she was kind enough to enact Chamberlin’s labor for her! Which is worth almost six fucking figures!!!

      #solidarityisforwhitewomen

      1. I’m still glad that you were intellectually altruistic enough to correct me when I used ‘enact their labor’ incorrectly.

        If I didn’t benefit from my cishet white male privilege, I’d thank you. Unfortunately, as you are a woman, I feel you are beneath me and are undeserving of praise.

        And why does your boyfriend let you post on the internet without his consent? He needs to learn that a woman’s place is in the kitchen, in the bedroom, or tied to a radiator as you try to mold her to your will through threats and emotional manipulation.

        #patriarchyrising

    2. Of course it’s staggeringly stupid. The fascinating thing about super-collectivist, special classes victimhood politics and all of the “Studies” stuff is how mindbendingly stupid it is. It is, truly, the rejection of logic, reason, and rationality. You have to be stupid to believe in it, because if you have a shred of intelligence you will very quickly see where it leads.

      If you don’t…you are one dumb motherfucker.

    3. I stop every time I reach the word “allies”. It’s one of those words, like “neoliberalism” that signals you can safely ignore the rest of the passage.

  12. I share Chamberlin’s opinion that it would be wrong for Boston U. to fire the professor.

    I agree. However, in the name of truth in advertising, BU should be required to publish a full history or Prof. Gundy’s antics from third party sources in all their recruitment materials.

    1. publish a full history or Prof. Gundy’s antics from third party sources in all their recruitment materials.

      Wouldn’t her public, social networking conversations perform that function?

      1. That’d work. Just include them in the recruiting material.

        1. Why do you think they hired her? That’s what the grievance studies kids want.

          1. Okay. Include it in the fundraising materials.

          2. Not only that, but I think BU might be expensive enough that people might not be interested in paying for that.

            1. that people might not be interested in paying for that.

              Just the parents. But I imagine the parents of grievance studies majors just want them to get the fuck out of the house.

      2. Potential students wouldn’t necessarily see those before signing up for her classes.

    2. I think that if she continues this shit, she should not get tenure.

      Tenure is for life and the tenure process is supposed to weed
      out people who antagonize students and others and who have
      fucked up personalities. Collegiality is one of many things they
      look for in order to award tenure. She is free to speak her mind
      but if she has serious problems dealing with people in a fair and
      rational way, she should not get tenure.

      That said, I am pretty sure she will get it because those responsible
      for awarding her tenure will either think she is really great while others
      will be too scared of looking racist and/or law suits to vote against her.

      The dean and provost can just tell her she is not invited back the
      following year or even in the middle of a semester if her conduct
      was bad enough. I personally think it is unprofessional to get
      into a flame war on facebook with a student.

  13. WHO IS THE VILLAIN THIS SCENARIO?!!

    1. White males. Jesus Christ, learn to read.

      1. -1 Journalism Degree

        1. Can’t get much whiter than Rico.

  14. Are we for policing microagressions this week?

    Are we saying that this leftist professor is unfit for duty because of her microagressions?

    Are we pointing out some kind of hypocrisy?

    That this professor is perfectly within her constitutional rights to be mean?

    All of the above?

    None of it?

    I never understand the reasoning behind half of Robby’s posts.

    1. It’s about college, and that’s Robby’s beat?

      ?

    2. As I understand the metanarrative, Robby is attempting to destroy college because he lacks as Columbia j-School degree and was accused of macroagressing some random administrator at UM. Although, based on his telling, it seemed like the microaggression of the beat reporter to me.

    3. I thought we were for calling out toxic hypocrisy, racism, and hatred?

    4. Didn’t you get the memo? We’re now expected to express outrage and berate people for making impolitic remarks. And to tut-tut rape hysterians on college campuses while also assuming that people accused of rape with no evidence whatsoever still carry a taint of guilt because they’ve been accused and probably did *something* wrong if they made a bunch of feminists unhappy. And to hate speech shame college football coaches for expressing insufficient apologies to any ethnic groups they might have offended by watching movies those groups don’t approve of.

      Robby’s posts all make sense once you realize that he’s Reason’s token SJW, who’s been brought on board to add some “youth” to the staff and court that all-important millennial following that Reason so yearns to attract. Personally, I think Reason is better off not recruiting progressives to write for their publication, but then that’s just silly old libertarian me…who doesn’t give a shit about how offended people are by other people’s comments.

  15. Slate‘s resident wood sprite amandasplains the related Bahar Mustafa case.

    Let me sum it up: “Wah. No fair! Turnabout isn’t fair play.”

    1. “Let me femsplain why you low forehead types don’t get it.”

    2. There is nothing that proves your inherent masochism more than the fact that you read her regularly.

      1. That’s Hess, not Marcotte. Even I can’t read Marcotte all the time. Her derp is mighty.

        1. So you’re not even the monster we thought you were. Way to disappoint…again. You’re starting to remind me of Nicole.

          1. Nicole loves you and this is the way you treat her. It’s shameful. Your shameful. Be ashamed.

            1. She likes being treated this way, the PUAs told me so. Something about a hamster and a wheel or something. See how well it works?

              1. What’s a PUA? Puckered up asshole?

                1. “Pick Up Artist”. Basically, the idiots who think there is a “system” for fooling women into sleeping with them. Or something. It’s remarkably stupid. I’m surprised that you don’t subscribe to it.

                  1. In fairness, I don’t think Nicole would fall for pick up artistry because she’s actually pretty smart for a girl.

                    OH MY GOD, DID YOU SEE HOW I NEGGED HER!?

                    That was a pretty great neg, if I do say so myself.

                  2. Nah, the only pickup book I ever needed was this one.

                  3. Or you can do what some of us do and just flash a wad of cash and a magnum sized condom.

                    1. I don’t know that hiring a hooker really counts, Mr. Man.

                2. I think Scruffy is right.

    3. But she may be the first to crumble over a case of ironic misandry, a tongue-in-cheek form of discourse favored by the young feminist Internet natives. You may have spied them on Twitter or Tumblr, working on their “KILL ALL MEN” cross-stitch or sipping from a mug labeled “MALE TEARS.” Ironic misandrists say they’re poking fun at long-standing stereotypes about militant feminist man-haters

      Good, I can safely needlepoint my “Lynch a Negro, Save a Watermelon” pillows again. I’ll just call them ironic.

      1. Going up on Etsy tomorrow: my ironic “I prefer my women to die in childbirth” cros-stitch.

        1. Totally ironic, I love it

    4. So, does that mean it’s OK for white dudes to go around saying “nigger” a lot and making jokes about picking cotton as long as it is ironically mocking silly notions of racist white guys?

      1. As to the first, they can only do that if they’re listening to rap, and then Chris Rock gives some guidelines:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDetBACaU0

  16. Two victims’ industry representatives walk into a bar…

    1. I know this joke, the punch line is ARMAGEDDON

    2. 3 different factions develop.

      1. I thought that’s what happened when two libertarians talked to each other.

        1. No that’s ARMAGEDDON

  17. Well, obviously Grundy wins:

    -African-American +50 points
    -Woman +10 points

    Chamberlain:
    -Woman +10 points
    -Rape Victim: +50 points
    -White: -1,000,000 points

    See? Simple math.

    1. +1 Matt Bruenig rationale

    2. I think you could make it even simpler.

      Heads Grundy wins (the victimhood competition), tails you lose.

      1. No, no, this has to be sciency and shit!

        Now, where do I, as a white woman, fall on the grievance points system? Obviously a black woman is worth more than I, but what about a black man? Where do I stand vis a vis a black dude? If a black guy is ahead of me on the griefer scale, what if that man is Colion Noir? Since he’s he’s a man and a race traitor, does he fall all the way down to white man status?

        I NEED TO KNOW!

        1. It’s whatever the grievance monger you’re talking to at the moment says it is. See how simple and science-y that is? QED

        2. Science is a construct of male logic, Kristen. Even a broad should know that.

        3. I think you need to get your PHD in intersectionality studies before you can know.

  18. I’m thinking about adding a question to our employment application:

    “Employee A tells Employee B that the scrubs required by hospital policy make Employee B look fat. Is this statement an example of:

    (a) Normal employee banter. No disciplinary action needed.
    (b) A microagression against Employee B. Employee A should be disciplined.
    (c) A possible microagression against Employee B, depending on the intersectionality of the two employees.

    Anyone who answers (b) will have their application shitcanned.

    Anyone who answers (c) will have their application shitcanned, and put on the “do not hire, ever” list.

    Seems like basic risk management, to me. I don’t want anyone who would use “micro-aggression” in a non-mocking way in my organization. And I don’t want anyone who believes “intersectionality” is a real thing to ever have any chance of being in my organization.

    1. Sure, just make sure that memo doesn’t get out in the open. And be prepared to stop hiring people under the age of 25. Like boom, stopped cold. You guys will be like Logan’s run, but for old people.

      1. make sure that memo doesn’t get out in the open

        Well, duh. If they find out that two of the three answers will get them not-hired, it wouldn’t really do us much good.

        be prepared to stop hiring people under the age of 25

        OK. I think I can live with an “adults-only” workforce.

    2. A lot of people would pick C because they didn’t know
      what it meant (not that it is possible to know) so it
      must be the right answer.

  19. #whitegirltears

    As we all know, no white person can ever be a victim. That status is reserved for the aggrieved heirs of individuals wounded long ago.

  20. Still, Chamberlin added: “I don’t want her to lose her job.”

    Why the fuck not? If I recall correctly, this Grundy idiot is supposed to be somebody expressly tasked with furthering the cause of “inclusion”. She plainly sucks at it.
    A few years as a Walmart greeter might help clarify her view of the world.

  21. I would.

    1. Yeah, but you say that about a tree stump.

      1. I think that “I would” WAS Crusty Juggler’s response to the book The Giving Tree, so yeah, pretty much. I haven’t seen him admit to being willing to do Lena Dunham, yet, so there exists the possibility that there is something “he wouldn’t”.

    2. I would, too. But I’ve never been one to avoid crazy.

  22. egads not madam failed to bring about!

  23. So, am I reading this correctly that two proggies are engaged in a worse-victim competition? If so, is there any way I can add to the victimhood of both?

    1. Think of social networking as the super collider, and these two women as the victim particles. If left running long enough, they may produce a victim singularity.

      1. But we have to keep running the super collider in the hopes of finally discovering the Unified Victim Theory.

        1. Like a search for a Higgs-Boson victim?

          1. Exactly. Or possibly a quark-gluon plasma victim.

    2. Call it a chickfight or a bitchfest. That’ll tick them off.

      1. I *LIKE* that!

  24. I can safely needlepoint my “Lynch a Negro, Save a Watermelon” pillows again. I’ll just call them ironic.

    *outright, prolonged laughter*

  25. Why are we hash tagging words when we’re not using Twitter? Does Facebook now index these as well?

    1. In statuses, yes. Not sure about comments. The also support mentions (@).

      Also, it’s just a mildly annoying habit many heavy Twitter users develop.

      1. *furiously scribbling notes*

        Ok then. So I may have to temper how much I make fun of people using pound signs on other social networking platform.

    2. I thought it was just meta-ironic social signaling.

  26. #bringbackmybitches

    1. You are so old.

      1. Pimpin’ ain’t easy.

  27. Saida Grundy is a feminist sociologist of race & ethnicity?Her research has been supported by the Woodrow Wilson Foundation, the Social Science Research Council, and the Andrew Mellon Foundation.

    Hmmm, a conundrum.

  28. Slightly OT: I have decided from now on when asked my ethnicity to reply Denisovan.

    1. And I thought nobody could top Otherkin.

    2. I haven’t been asked my ethnicity since the late 70s. Do people still do that?

      1. Very carefully and with a lawyer present, unless you’re a census taker.

    3. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean you’re claiming relationship with Dennis.

      http://itsalwayssunny.wikia.co…..s_Reynolds

  29. “According to Grundy’s friend, Frank Miller”

    Wait, let me guess – “”I am vengeance, I am the night, I am Batman.”

  30. oh dear god. Professionals should not be bickering on Facebook.

    1. Professionals were involved with this stupidity ?

  31. what’s with this annoying “rape survivor” newspeak? Does the word “victim” victimizes victims too much?

  32. Did Grundy read what Chamberlin had written before she responded, or was the professor oblivious to the fact that she was mercilessly berating a survivor of rape?

    — OR… Did the professor assume (not unreasonably) that some bozo was playing the “rape card”?

    — OR… Did the professor think perhaps that the other party was of the 50% that LIES about rape?

    — OR… Did the professor decide that the correspondent should put on her “big girl pants” and not claim “invalid status” if she was injecting herself into a debate? (Not as if anyone hunted her down and forced her into the discussion.)

    — OR… (well, there are dozens of possibilities… not just the two cited in the article.)

  33. “This much is not in dispute: Grundy got in an argument online with Meghan Chamberlin, a woman who is a survivor of sexual assault. ”

    Has anyone actually verified her claim to be a rape survivor, beyond reading Facebook?

    Yes, no one would ever ever ever lie about being a rape victim. But just for giggles, has anyone actually been a journalist and verified that fact?

  34. Still, an important question remains: Did Grundy read what Chamberlin had written before she responded, or was the professor oblivious to the fact that she was mercilessly berating a survivor of rape?

    I’m sorry, but that’s not the important question at all.

    To ask that question buys into the idea of trigger warnings and that we should allow a ‘victim’s veto’ on every conversation, ever.

    1. This is a person making a claim on *Facebook*. There’s no guarantee that this person is who they say they are, let alone that what happened, happened (rather than something made up for use as a rhetorical weapon). And there’s no good reason to place the burden of assumption on the people receiving this (rather than the burden of proof on the person throwing this out).

    2. Grundy threw back into the other person’s face the fact that that woman was using a prior sexual assault to deflect personal criticism in a conversation that had nothing to do with sexual assault.

    Grundy is an arse and Grundy was *wrong* but not because she didn’t put enough thought into the feelz of her audience before she counter-attacked.

    1. I should clarify #2 – this ‘rape survivor’ put herself into the conversation, its not something that she was forced into. One one hand, its good that she speaks up – she made a (kinda) decent point. OTOH, if she’s too fragile to handle a vicious sounter-attack (which she should be prepared for – its not like reading some of Grundy’s other writings wouldn’t clue you in to what an arse she is) then she shouldn’t have gotten stuck in.

  35. “”I want brains like hers not in just higher education,” Chamberlin said about Grundy. “I wish we could have that open-mindedness and critical thinking in more places. I would like it my kids’ elementary school.””

    Liberal Blindset…calling what is as if it wasn’t and what isn’t as if it was…

  36. Go to the BU African American Studies web page, News tab, here: http://www.bu.edu/afam/news

    and read the warm welcome they give to this scholarly crank Grundy (I won’t dignify her with the title professor)

    They claim that SHE is the victim of “cyber-bullying.” It absolutely Orwellian. Go to the BU website and send emails to everyone there and POLITELY express your outrage at her appointment. If you are rude they will say she is the victim of your abuse.

    It’s enough to make a cat laugh.

  37. Can anyone explain to me why Reason feels it necessary to cover this? Why is this relevant to anything?

  38. That’s a lot of press for two whiny broads with hurt feelings, no?

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