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Saudi Arabia Goes Nuclear, Lindsey Graham Wants to be President, Republicans Are Old: P.M. Links

J.D. Tuccille | 5.18.2015 4:30 PM

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    Saudi Arabia may purchase nuclear weapons off-the-shelf from Pakistan. With the Saudis backing away from reliance on the U.S. for defense, the Middle East isn't getting less interesting anytime soon. 

  • Some of the nine dead and 18 wounded in the Waco, Texas, gang melee may have been shot by police officers—though with 170 people charged with capital crimes, this will take a while to sort out.
  • Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Leftistan) slammed President Obama for not linking trade agreements to her preferred labor rules.
  • Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-Bedlam) wants to be president. No, thank you.
  • The GOP is getting old and dying, a phenomenon that will obviously continue…or not.
  • Consumer Reports bought a Tesla to review and couldn't even get into the friggin' car.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Leftistan) slammed President Obama for not linking trade agreements to her preferred labor rules.

    She heap big angry.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      Warren is such a joke. And she's a great litmus test for identifying idiots. Yes, if you support her, you're an idiot. Look, I didn't come up with this test.

      1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

        It's a particular subset of idiots. Idiots who believe that they're really smart. The worst kind, really.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          There's no ignorance worse than arrogant ignorance.

    2. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

      Hello.

      What happened this morning with the AM links?

      I ran my entire 15k training run cursing out loud.

      1. Slammer   10 years ago

        Video?

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

          The 'reply' option was not there and then the AM links disappeared.

          Fucken gnomes and Jews.

          1. Pathogen   10 years ago

            The 'reply' option is an American? institution, commie... You don't get one.

            God Bless America

            1. BigT   10 years ago

              'Reply' is the last bit of freedom we have.

              1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                I thought the toilet was the last bastion of American freedom?

      2. Aloysious   10 years ago

        It was foreshadowing SugarFree fuckfiction. The intertoobz almost shut down.

      3. Ted S.   10 years ago

        In English, I hope.

        1. Brett L   10 years ago

          Tabernac!

          1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

            TabernaK, Brett. TabernaK.

            1. Brett L   10 years ago

              merde!

              1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

                It's okay. Rookie mistake.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL1AlPl58Ug

            2. Inigo M.   10 years ago

              Chalice!

    3. Inigo M.   10 years ago

      So Sitting Bullshit has revealed that she's a racist?

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    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      I think you're behind it.

      1. Elspeth Flashman   10 years ago

        of course he is, how could he be first all the damn time.

        1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

          Time travel. Or a functioning clock.

    2. Bobarian (sexbot hand model)   10 years ago

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        Well that and I was kinda bored at work today ...

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      2. XM   10 years ago

        Disqus

        1. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

          I hate changing the water all the time.

        2. robc   10 years ago

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          What SBNation uses.

          1. iCarl   10 years ago

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      3. Stilgar   10 years ago

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          1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

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  3. Bam!   10 years ago

    Some of the nine dead and 18 wounded in the Waco, Texas, gang melee may have been shot by police officers

    I'm skeptical. Police offers aren't that good of shot.

    1. PBR Streetgang   10 years ago

      I can't believe this didn't place a Cracker Barrel

    2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      It wasn't the people they were aiming for.

      1. Pathogen   10 years ago

        Yeah, they were shooting at a stray dog across the street.

    3. RBS   10 years ago

      I'd believe it if some of the dead turn out to be innocent bystanders.

    4. Brett L   10 years ago

      Shit, boy. You in Texas, now.

      This thing is fucking nuts. It reads like a Sons of Anarchy plot. Weirdest of all is that there were cops inside and outside when the beating, stabbing and shooting started.

      1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

        "cops inside and outside when the beating, stabbing and shooting started."

        Doesn't seem weird to me at all.

        1. Ted S.   10 years ago

          They only cared about getting home safely.

        2. Bobarian (sexbot hand model)   10 years ago

          cops inside and outside when the beating, stabbing and shooting started.

          How do you think it got started?

      2. Ted S.   10 years ago

        Why wouldn't you expect the Pig Gang to show up at a meeting of a bunch of other gangs?

      3. Pathogen   10 years ago

        They probably ran off to get their MRAPs and APCs and suit up in the body armor the DOD gave them, when are they going to another excuse to pull their toys out? I bet the disappointment was crushing when it ended soo quickly...

        1. Paul.   10 years ago

          You laugh. Cops in my area had a shaking meth-addict trapped in a sporting goods store, so the cops hid outside in the MRAP for five hours. Five. Hours.

          They claim they were negotiating. In this case, "negotiating" was shouting through a megaphone while the dude hid in the rafters, not responding.

      4. db   10 years ago

        What's all this then? I haven't heard about this thing.

        1. Entropy Void   10 years ago

          One on't cross beams gone owt askew on't treddle.

    5. Rhywun   10 years ago

      Cue endless days of navel-gazing over how do we "heal" Waco... oh wait - no?

      1. Brett L   10 years ago

        I will be very surprised if the Texas Rangers aren't asked to "deal" with the Biker problem the same way they were asked to deal with the Comanche problem.

        1. Paul.   10 years ago

          By 'Comanche problem', you mean the Branch Davidian problem?

          1. Mx Trshmnster of the Dumpster   10 years ago

            Burn them out all because of a couple of modified guns?

      2. DEG   10 years ago

        The concern trolling has started.

    6. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      Shot by police!? Quick, someone start a hashtag #harleydrivingfagslivesmatter.

  4. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    Huh. So it's okay to buy nukes on the open market but not to build your own. I never knew it was all about trade protectionism.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      Just another foreign policy success.

      1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

        Yeah, it's hard not to view this administration as the worst ever in foreign policy, or, at least, close to it. Sure, some of the mountain of shit might have happened anyway, but nowhere near all of it. Is there nothing they cannot not do?

        1. Tonio   10 years ago

          There is enough that can be firmly pinned to this administration. This isn't one of those.

          1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

            I blame them for the penumbra of American incompetence that encourages shenanigans.

          2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

            I dunno. I wouldn't want to be the administration that gave the Wahhabis a nuke.

            1. Tonio   10 years ago

              Um, except we're not giving them the nuke. Or even selling it.

              And what are we going to do? Cut off their foreign aid money? Invade them and set off every Jihadi wannabe on the planet (because, Mecca)?

              1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                Tell them we're leaving the Middle East and have fun with the Russians and the Israelis? Oh, and FRACK YOU, BITCHES!

              2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

                Yes Tonio, I think we should invade Mecca.

                1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                  Invade is a harsh word. Sell it to Disney.

                  1. Entropy Void   10 years ago

                    I am imagining the Jihaddi angst as a Disneyesque Mohammad character chases a 14 year old Princess Jasmine on his flying carpet ... THE MUSICAL!

                    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                      They would be wise not to incur our ultimate wrath.

                    2. perlhaqr   10 years ago

                      Too old for The Prophet.

                  2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                    Actually, given that the lunatic Wahabis are tearing down everything older than a week old in that city because beautiful things are 'idolatry' and replacing the cool old stuff with buildings that look like high school cafeterias, it will soon likely look more like Disneyworld than any city in this country.

                2. Tonio   10 years ago

                  Well, what do you think we should have done or do about it, then? Srsly. What would you, as president, have done or do to stop this?

              3. bacon-magic   10 years ago

                Our Emperor is to blame - Iran negotiations are destabilizing an already fucked up area.

              4. Paul.   10 years ago

                Um, except we're not giving them the nuke. Or even selling it.

                If I may channel Sheldon Richman for a few moments, didn't everything we ever did in the past lead to this moment?

                1. Tonio   10 years ago

                  Not really, Paul. Remember there are many other actors. Sure, we influenced the trajectory, as did others. But the thing has its own inertia now.

                  Look, I'm not happy about this. Totally not happy about this. Another religious state gets nukes. Another state which hangs people like me gets nukes.

                  But ever since the Russians got them (before I was born) unpleasant regimes have been going nuclear and there's nothing we can do to outright stop that.

                  And I don't have a single right answer. I only know that there are many useless and harmful actions we could take.

        2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

          Carter was worse for letting the Shah fall.

          1. Old Man With Candy   10 years ago

            I'd rate it a tie except that Obama has had twice as long to fuck things up, so he's fucked more things up.

          2. CatoTheElder   10 years ago

            Forget it, Jake. It's the Middle East.

            The Shah wanted an atomic bomb every bit as much as the Ayatollah.

          3. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            To be fair, Eisenhower never should of kept the Shah in place to begin with. He should have let Mossadegh bury the monarchy once and for all; in the long run things would have been better.

        3. Juice   10 years ago

          it's hard not to view this administration as the worst ever in foreign policy

          It's pretty easy when the worst foreign policy since Johnson happened with the last president.

          1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

            At least Bush's seemed non-random. I seriously think this administration uses a Magic 8-Ball to make its decisions.

            1. Paul.   10 years ago

              Signs point to 'yes'.

            2. Bill Dalasio   10 years ago

              Possibly.

              I think it's more a matter of strategic schizophrenia. They want to run an assertive foreign policy dictating terms to the world. But, their completely unwilling to incur any particular cost to do so. As a result, they operate predominantly on the plane of bluff and bluster. So, they're incredibly demanding, even rude, to long-term allies because they think those allies will be easily manipulated. The thing is, most of the world has pretty much come to realize that that's what the game is.

          2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            It's pretty easy when the worst foreign policy since Johnson happened with the last president.

            But that's clearly wrong.

            1. Juice   10 years ago

              Of course you think Bush's disastrous foreign policy was a good thing even though it was clearly the worst in a long time.

              1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                I never said it was a good thing you dunce. Maybe you should stick to replying to the arguments and remarks people actually make, not the ones in your head.

                1. Juice   10 years ago

                  You were in favor of the Iraq War, were you not?

                  1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                    I was in favor of ending it, which is what the 2003 invasion did. Wrapped up a sore that had been open since 1990. Was a great victory. Made Kurdistan. Then W fucked it all up by turning it into a nation-building disaster.

                2. Scarecrow Repair   10 years ago

                  Maybe you shoudl just stick to the wall instead of trying to clean up the mess you made.

                  1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                    That doesn't even make sense. I never made any mess.

    2. Tonio   10 years ago

      It's not OK, but they will come up with some BS reason to not object because they are (theoretically) our ally. Oh, and they are a signatory to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Guess that's effectively toilet paper now (not that it wasn't before).

      1. Brett L   10 years ago

        I guess this means Iran's nuclear program is real, effective, and approaching completion.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          My reaction, exactly. Boy, this should be great fun for the family.

          1. Brett L   10 years ago

            Hopefully, they'll purchase the rockets from the Russians.

            1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

              What a disaster. Please tell me that NASA is secretly telling SpaceX to have the manned Dragon ready in the next few months.

              1. Brett L   10 years ago

                Say, fellas, about all those bullshit hoops we had for you to jump through..

                1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                  Precisely. Sorry, we were wrong, but don't tell anyone, just say you were secretly working with us all along to be ready to go in, say, August.

            2. jesse.in.mb   10 years ago

              Poor Mexico

            3. Gray Ghost   10 years ago

              Hopefully, they'll purchase the rockets from the Russians.

              If you're talking about the Saudis, they already have them. They purchased CSS-2 IRBMs from China in the 80s, something which was revealed only recently. The link claims that China still maintains the missiles for KSA, which I don't believe at all. Given the CSS-2 is a POS with a CEP that makes a Scud look like a precision strike weapon, I idly wonder whether the Saudis picked up NBC warheads for the missiles too. China claims they're conventionally armed, and hey, maybe as far as China knows, they are? And maybe the Saudis bought the W-88 specs from the Chinese, who stole them from the U.S., sometime in the 90s?

              If you're instead talking about the Iranians, they have a slew of domestically produced satellite launchers. Low throwweight so far, but still probably enough to send a small plutonium implosion weapon to any point in the MidEast they want.

              I think if all sides in SW Asia decide to get their nuclear arms race on, we're going to see a nuke used in anger there within the next ten years. It'll be MAD, without any of the factors that made it somewhat stable.

              Frankly, I'm surprised Putin hasn't helped things along (cont.)

              1. Gray Ghost   10 years ago

                Low oil prices are murder on Russia's economy, and Putin needs a certain amount of cash flowing in to keep the boyars, (whoops) oligarchs on his side. The Saudis and other Gulf Arabs won't close down the taps, so why not destabilize the region, thereby causing petroleum prices to rise back to where everybody can be rich again?

                1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                  Dare I, in my naivete, speculate that Putin has learned what the US may well have not: that trying to play chess in the middle east generally results in the pieces blowing up in your face after the game is over?

    3. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

      You'd think they'd get a little creative with what they already have and something like, umm.. giant gasoline bombs?

  5. Slammer   10 years ago

    Are we gonna be able to comment on these links?

    1. Almanian!   10 years ago

      No.

      HEY! Wait a minute!

  6. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    The GOP is getting old and dying...

    Who isn't?

    1. Almanian!   10 years ago

      Warty.

      And STEVE SMITH

      THAT'S who.

    2. Xeones   10 years ago

      Hitler?

    3. Pathogen   10 years ago

      Woodrow Wilson.

      1. Mx Trshmnster of the Dumpster   10 years ago

        To be honest, I've suspected that he was the previous incarnation of warty.

      2. Lord at War   10 years ago

        Woodrow Wilson Long

        /nerdfail

    4. mr lizard   10 years ago

      Joan Rivers?...
      ...too soon?

      1. Entropy Void   10 years ago

        Nope.

    5. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

      Ho Chi Minh?

    6. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

      Mork from Ork?

  7. Mike M.   10 years ago

    Europe plans military response to migrant crisis.

    Wait, what? Europe wants to use naval vessels to sink boats full of poor, innocent migrants looking for a better life away from their war-torn countries? I thought these folks were our moral superiors according to all the lefties!

    1. Ted S.   10 years ago

      A lot of them are economic migrants.

    2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      They want to murder immigrants, but can't raise so much as a finger or a frack well to do something about Russia's expansionism. Way to set your priorities Eurotrash.

    3. The Bad Captain Madly   10 years ago

      Maybe they aren't necessarily our moral superiors. But apparently they learn faster.

  8. Caleb Turberville   10 years ago

    I rewatched Shenandoah the other night. Still the best anti-war movie ever.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

      The near-end and ending was rough and beautiful.

      1. Almanian!   10 years ago

        rough and beautiful

        Kind of llike HyR, no?

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

          Yes.

          /wipes tear. Applies band-aid.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-Bedlam) wants to be president.

    Maybe if every other American died.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      We have many articles dedicated to that today.

      Bo and Plug, take note

    2. jesse.in.mb   10 years ago

      Carol Brady for president!

    3. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

      As if we need an America-sized bedlam.

  10. Slammer   10 years ago

    The GOP is getting old and dying,

    Uh, EVERYBODY is.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      Fucking entropy. Why doesn't anyone run on ending that?

      1. Entropy Void   10 years ago

        Um, excuse me?

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          Sorry, man, but you're a drag.

          1. Entropy Void   10 years ago

            Cis-normative shitlord!

            I only wear dresses on Saturdays when I stay in and watch Lifetime.

            1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

              Look at all of the death and decay and disorder. All you.

              1. Almanian!   10 years ago

                Come on - Enthalpy's fucking involved in this shit, too!

                1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                  Contributory negligence at best. Entropy's guilty, and nobody does nothing about it.

              2. Entropy Void   10 years ago

                Well, yeah, you are right about Lifetime: death and decay and disorder.

                And Bravo and E!, too.

                I'll try to do better.

                1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                  That's a great idea. The Entropy Channel. It starts with order, with increasing disorder, until year ten, when it's just snow.

                  1. Agammamon   10 years ago

                    So, just like the History Channel?

                    Starts out with History.

                    Then moves to all WW2 all the time.

                    Shifts to all Hitler all the time.

                    Is currently in the 'all alien conspiracy all the time' phase.

                    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                      Basically, but intentionally this time. Like the creation of the universe with this built-in self-destruct mechanism.

                    2. Almanian!   10 years ago

                      Yeah, well - I'm not saying it was Aliens......

                      .....but it was Aliens.....

                    3. Juice   10 years ago

                      I thought History was in the redneck reality show phase along with TLC, which is in the bickering trash reality show phase.

                    4. Raven Nation   10 years ago

                      Ah the Luftwaffe, the Washington Generals of the History Channel.

                  2. bacon-magic   10 years ago

                    Next up - the Maxwell's Demon Show!

          2. Ted S.   10 years ago

            Tomorrow is a drag

        2. entropy_factor   10 years ago

          um, hello?

          1. Entropy Void   10 years ago

            Hi.

    2. Slammer   10 years ago

      GODAMMIT fist...knock it off

      1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

        I read the thoughts in your brain.

    3. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      SHUT UP SHUT THE FUCK DO NOT TALK ABOUT GETTING OLDER AROUND ME

      1. Warty   10 years ago

        Don't worry. You're young yet, you still have time to have babies.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          Where's the fetus going to gestate? He's going to keep it in a box?

          1. Almanian!   10 years ago

            I thought this is what planters are for? No?

          2. Warty   10 years ago

            I assume some sort of test tube of some kind. Or maybe in the butt like Arnold?

            1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

              Wow, maybe Canadian healthcare is superior to the U.S.'s. Not like we've got brood males.

              1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                This conversation is like...'essence of H&R'.

                1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                  We're not paid to do this for nothing, you know.

      2. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

        What a drag.

    4. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      http://www.bartleby.com/101/21.html

  11. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    ...though with 170 people charged with capital crimes, this will take a while to sort out.

    Send them back to Cossackstan.

  12. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    During Monday the Nasdaq stock exchange stated that it will try and use the globally distributed network of bitcoin for verifications of virtual currency transactions and also as a logbook used to track the stock deals of private companies.

    http://www.risersandfallers.co.....n-network/

    The Future!

  13. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

    Some of the nine dead and 18 wounded in the Waco, Texas, gang melee may have been shot by police officers?though with 170 people charged with capital crimes, this will take a while to sort out.

    Sons of Anarchy ended a few months back. Didn't they get the memo?

    1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      Well that's what the fight was about: arguing over whether to bring it back or just let the story be over.

  14. Atanarjuat   10 years ago

    Washington Post: Foreign Service Too White, minorities hardest hit

    1. GILMORE   10 years ago

      As a libertarian, I'm not a big fan of casually lumping big groups of people together because of their race and drawing incredibly broad, unsupported conclusions.

      Unless they're whitey

      1. Bobarian (sexbot hand model)   10 years ago

        You know who else was a big fan of casually lumping big groups of people together because of their race and drawing incredibly broad, unsupported conclusions.?

        1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

          Social scientists?

        2. Entropy Void   10 years ago

          Stalin?

        3. Beautiful Bean Footage   10 years ago

          Bo Cara Esq?

          1. Entropy Void   10 years ago

            Ding Ding Winnah!

    2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      Um, I'm still waiting for my discrimination lawsuit against the NBA to get settled. I have a right to play center for the Lakers even though I'm a pale 5'5.

  15. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

    "Saudi Arabia may purchase nuclear weapons off-the-shelf from Pakistan."

    They got a roll back deal.

  16. Rich   10 years ago

    In other Saudi news: Saudi Arabia advertises for eight new executioners as beheading rate soars

    Jobs classified as 'religious functionaries' at lower end of civil service scale

    Something something living wage.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      The want ad starts out: "Do you want to get a head in life?"

      1. Brett L   10 years ago

        "Need a hand up instead of a hand out?"

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

          Instead of wearing conventional beards, applicants must be clean-cut.

          1. Brett L   10 years ago

            Looking for a sharp individual to cut through bureaucracy

          2. Brett L   10 years ago

            Looking for a sharp individual to cut through bureaucracy

            1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

              Help people lost 10 ugly pounds fast!

            2. mr lizard   10 years ago

              All applicants will be Head and shoulders above the rest

      2. Rich   10 years ago

        "..., meet interesting people, and BEHEAD THEM!"

      3. Ted S.   10 years ago

        Who doesn't want to get head?

    2. Bam!   10 years ago

      Outsource it to ISIS. They have experience.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        ISIS seems to skip the whole "trial" part of the procedure.

    3. Tonio   10 years ago

      What you did there...

    4. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wafhDIMU6w

  17. Aloysious   10 years ago

    2chilly snark. heh heh heh

  18. LynchPin1477   10 years ago

    Saudi Arabia may purchase nuclear weapons off-the-shelf from Pakistan

    Can we please, please, PLEASE just GTFO already? I'd rather watch from a distance when they start glassing the place...

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      Yeah, this reminds me of Eddie Murphy's bit on haunted houses:

      [normal voice] It's real scary. You know what I was wondering about movies? I was watching those movies -- I'm moving out of my house, I was watching movies like Poltergeist and Amityville Horror. Why don't the people just get the hell out of the house? ... You can't make a horror movie with black people in it 'cuz the movie'd stop, you'd see niggers runnin' down the street, the movie's over! ... That's the movie. You can't have a movie like that. See, white people, you all sit on the toilet, see blood in the toilet, and you all go get Ajax. ... Brothers won't sit on the toilet. ...

      Movie be just like this: [brother's voice] "Wow, baby, this is beautiful. We got chandelier hangin' up here, kids outside playin', it's a beautiful neighborhood, I really love - this is beaut--" [demonic whisper] "Get out!" [brother's voice] "Too bad we can't stay." [instantly spins, starts walking upstage] ...

      1. Almanian!   10 years ago

        ^^ this exactly!

        "Too bad we can't stay." Ayup.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          Too bad we can't stay, indeed.

      2. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

        When Eddie was king.

        1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          Before that whole transvestite hooker incident. By that I mean sleeping with Sarah Jessica Parker.

      3. Rich   10 years ago

        Brothers won't sit on the toilet.

        "You see? The President is not a *real* Black."

      4. Wasteland Wanderer   10 years ago

        You can't make a horror movie with black people in it 'cuz the movie'd stop, you'd see niggers runnin' down the street, the movie's over!

        And then he went and made The Haunted Mansion.

        Whomp whomp.

  19. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Saddam: What We Now Know

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/.....-jim-lacey

    Here NRO seems to make a convincing case that the line perpetuated by Reason and the MSM about Iraq being a non-threat is highly suspect or outright bullshit. Is anything in this article wrong, or overstated beyond the evidence? I can totally see NRO being less that trustworthy, but I have caught Reason making stuff up or stretching the truth on foreign policy more times than can be counted.

    Happy Victoria Day.

    1. Almanian!   10 years ago

      Let's ask Sheldon Richman - he seems unbiased on this

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        "Osama was just a harmless old man"

    2. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

      The Queen is just a mildly interesting character or figure around these parts.

      We don't do Royalty.

      1. Raven Nation   10 years ago

        The main benefit of royalty in Australia is the Queen's Birthday long weekend.

    3. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      I suppose we should go into Uzbekistan too, I'm sure someone there has a crop duster and some arsenic to drop from it and enough fuel to make it to the US.

  20. Rich   10 years ago

    Kerry: Internet 'Needs Rules to Be Able to Flourish and Work Properly'

    "First, no country should conduct or knowingly support online activity that intentionally damages or impedes the use of another country's critical infrastructure. Second, no country should seek either to prevent emergency teams from responding to a cybersecurity incident, or allow its own teams to cause harm. Third, no country should conduct or support cyber-enabled theft of intellectual property, trade secrets, or other confidential business information for commercial gain. Fourth, every country should mitigate malicious cyber activity emanating from its soil, and they should do so in a transparent, accountable and cooperative way. And fifth, every country should do what it can to help states that are victimized by a cyberattack."

    What could *possibly* go wrong?

    1. Brett L   10 years ago

      Ah, yes, that first 20 years where the Internet just made everything easier and everyone richer was just luck.

    2. Bam!   10 years ago

      First, no country should conduct or knowingly support online activity that intentionally damages or impedes the use of another country's critical infrastructure.

      So the USA will shut down the NSA, right Mr. Kerry?

      I really don't want politicians touching the Internet. Their understanding of technical matters doesn't go deeper than what they see on CSI.

      1. Rich   10 years ago

        Their understanding of technical matters doesn't go deeper than what they see on CSI.

        "Now, Mr. Kerry, simply write an algorithm to compute N factorial. You may use pseudocode."

      2. Ted S.   10 years ago

        It's a series of tubes!

      3. fish   10 years ago

        Their understanding of technical matters doesn't go deeper than what they see on CSI.

        Kerry's level is no deeper than the first layer of oats in his feedbag.

    3. Aloysious   10 years ago

      That's just what we need: more JFKerry screwing things up.

  21. LynchPin1477   10 years ago

    Consumer Reports bought a Tesla to review and couldn't even get into the friggin' car.

    I saw the headline on CNN and just assumed that "locked out" meant Tesla was somehow preventing CR from reviewing the car.

    I give people far too much credit, sometimes.

  22. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

    Check this dunk out:

    http://bit.ly/1Ho11XA

    1. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

      Damn. That was good.

    2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      That's not even his most famous dunk. He does one called Lost and Found or something like that

    3. Alton Knutson   10 years ago

      You should see me put my dirty socks in the hamper.

  23. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-Bedlam) wants to be president.

    And I want my student loan debt to magically go away.

    1. Xeones   10 years ago

      A Sanders/Warren voter, eh?

  24. Slammer   10 years ago

    #wacothugs

    DBB ?@vickskat 8h8 hours ago
    So apparently you can shoot up a restaurant, then shoot at police and not be called a thug. If you are white. #WacoThugs

    Unapologetic Negro ?@HollaBlackGirl 20h20 hours ago
    The #Waco shooting is obviously the result of the breakdown of the white biker family. #WacoThugs

    No Quarter Given ?@chaedria 21h21 hours ago
    What will the White community do about this white-on-white gang activity? Where are their fathers?! #Waco #WacoThugs

    Amanda ?@SmellTouchFeel 22h22 hours ago
    America the beautiful hypocrite

    A CVS burns, no human harmed = Riot! Anarchy! Outrage!

    Bike gang violence kills 9 = brawl. NBD

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      How DARE they use words properly and not in a way that conforms to my retarded emotionally-led responses!

    2. Warty   10 years ago

      The #Waco shooting is obviously the result of the breakdown of the white biker family. #WacoThugs

      Um, I'm just guessing, but I'm quite sure it'll be easy enough to to find someone blaming the bikers' absentee fathers for them being trashy stupid violent redneck trash.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        OK, then, what *is* the ethnic breakdown here?

        1. Coeus   10 years ago

          Seeing as how I'm only seeing pictures of the Cossacs online, I'm guessing that the other gang wasn't white.

          1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

            There were 5 gangs involved.

            And serious question..are their non-White majority biker gangs? I thought biker gangs was something only White people do, like considering hotdish edible food or not discipline your children?

            1. iCarl   10 years ago

              I had to look up hotdish. Apparently it's a South Canada thing.

            2. SugarFree   10 years ago

              Minnesota goulash is usually made with ground beef, macaroni, canned tomatoes, and perhaps a can of creamed corn.

              Barf, barf, barfity barf.

              1. Pope Jimbo   10 years ago

                Never heard of the corn, but yeah, that pretty much looks like what we'd call goulash.

                Of course we think sloppy joe's are hamburger and ketchup, so we aren't really the go to authority for fine dining.

                But hot dish is the one thing we can lecture the rest of the company on. Greatest thing ever invented. The only hard and fast rule is that you need to include cream of mushroom soup and tater tots. The rest is up to you.

                1. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

                  I like some steak and French fries with my ketchup.

            3. Coeus   10 years ago

              And serious question..are their non-White majority biker gangs?

              Most assuredly. I see black and mexican biker gangs all the time in Houston. But I'm not sure whether they're 1% or not.

              1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

                Well according to CNN:

                Swanton would not release the names of the gangs involved. Photos from the scene showed bikers wearing the insignias of the Cossacks, Bandidos, Scimitars and Vaqueros, but it was not clear if the photographed gang members were involved in the fighting. Numerous media outlets, including the Waco Tribune-Herald and CNN affiliate KTXS, cited police sources who said the Bandidos and Cossacks were among those involved.

                I don't know if that reveals anything useful or not.

                1. GILMORE   10 years ago

                  Bikie Gang = The Musical!

              2. Tonio   10 years ago

                Yes, it's not just a white thing.

                1. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

                  You misspelled "thang".

            4. Coeus   10 years ago

              And serious question..are their non-White majority biker gangs?

              Most assuredly. I see black and mexican biker gangs all the time in Houston. But I'm not sure whether they're 1% or not.

            5. MarkLastname   10 years ago

              The Bandidos actually have a significant Mexican membership. Not majority, but largely. And if I remember correctly, the Mongols, also one of the largest gangs in the country, was basically founded specifically to be racially 'inclusive' because the Hell's Angels were generally only white.

    3. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      I'm pretty sure that burning down the only pharmacy in the neighborhood did in fact cause quite a bit of harm.

    4. Coeus   10 years ago

      Retarded. Absolutely retarded.

      In other words, the details captured in the tweets about the #WacoThugs or about the need to #StopWhiteOnWhiteCrime may miss the nuance of the situation?indeed, they may not be all that pertinent to the situation in Waco at all?but that's far from a flaw. It's kind of the whole point.

      Bolding is mine. Something that retarded needs to be bolded.

  25. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

    Lavazza builds espresso machine for space:

    http://www.space.com/26260-zer.....video.html

  26. Derpetologist   10 years ago

    Spot the Not: wackiest conspiracy theories

    1. The moon is a hologram.

    2. Penis-shrinking wizards cause panic in Sudan.

    3. Israel uses cyborg sharks to spy on Egypt and hurt its tourism industry.

    4. The Catholic Church created Islam.

    5. Congolese witch doctors teach that AIDS can be cured by walking backwards for a month.

    6. The wingdings font on MS word uses ancient Satanic symbols.

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      I know 2 and 3 are true!

    2. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      1 is the conspiracy theory.

      4 is true - it just got out of hand, sorry.

    3. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      I've heard of every single one except 5.

    4. Brett L   10 years ago

      6. Everyone knows they are Masonic, not Satanic.

      1. Xeones   10 years ago

        What difference, at this point, does it make?

      2. Almanian!   10 years ago

        Pffffftttt.......silly goose!

        *gazes upon Masonic symbol poster that looks moar lyk tarot cards than.,...hey, wait*

    5. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      5. I've heard all the others.

      1. tarran   10 years ago

        Yeah, 5 is got to be it; I believe they actually tell men to rape virgins.

        1. Andrew S.   10 years ago

          That is what they do. I almost typed that in my original comment, then I felt dirty for even typing it.

    6. Derpetologist   10 years ago

      5 is the Not. Prize for the winners:

      http://i.imgur.com/KaRau.jpg

      1. Tonio   10 years ago

        Weighing in way-late, I know, but #2 is not a conspiracy theory. Supersitious beliefs about penis-shrinking magic are a thing in certain parts of Africa. So more news-of-the-weird than conspiracy.

    7. robc   10 years ago

      5

    8. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

      5. Too difficult.

    9. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      Number 5 worked for me.

  27. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

    Report reveals racial disparities in commute times

    http://www.journalmpls.com/new.....mute-times

    Twin City's Busses Hate People of Color

    1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      Well, that's just because of CPT, that's all.

      1. Brett L   10 years ago

        How did all those white bus drivers manage to get themselves on CPT?

        1. Almanian!   10 years ago

          Is it....Hitler?

          *looks around unassuredly*

        2. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

          I dunno...lack of Apple Watches?

    2. lap83   10 years ago

      I always thought it was weird, when I took the bus while living in Mpls, how they forced all of the colored people onto the same, slower busses, while the white people got different, faster busses. Oh wait, that didn't happen.

      1. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

        It sort of does though. Routes like the 764 express bus go from downtown out to the suburbs and mostly carry white folk; they make no stops in the city.

        1. lap83   10 years ago

          Actually, I remember a black lady once asked me for change and I gave her enough for bus fare, but then when she asked for more so she could "take the Express bus and get to the homeless shelter faster" I called her ungrateful and wouldn't oblige her. I'm probably part of the problem. I still think I was right though.

          1. lap83   10 years ago

            Also, I was a poor college student. So I was only sympathetic to a point.

        2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          That's just part of the white supremacist plot to keep black people from getting out to the suburbs and polluting their racial purity!

  28. Rich   10 years ago

    'He's got a gun!' Surprise school intruder drill traumatizes elementary students

    [One student] told the news site she thought she was going to die, and couldn't stop shaking, despite local law enforcement who arrived on scene to tell students the scary ordeal was a training exercise.

    AGAIN?! Let the lawsuits begin.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Wait until kindly old Mrs. McGillicutty gets a fatal heart attack, *then* we'll see some fireworks.

  29. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Texas is a flawed place but it's saving America and the world.

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said on Monday that he'll sign the bill restricting the ability of cities to ban hydraulic fracturing activity within their borders, according to the Fort-Worth Star Telegram.

    The bill, inspired by the local fracking ban voters passed in the city of Denton last November, will take effect immediately after winning more than two-thirds majorities in the Texas House and Senate.

    http://fuelfix.com/blog/2015/0.....26977101=0

    1. Brett L   10 years ago

      Does the City of Denton have any fracable land within its boundaries? I'm not sure of its extent, but it seems questionable.

      1. TO in TX   10 years ago

        Does the City of Denton have any fracable land within its boundaries?
        Almost certainly.

        1. Brett L   10 years ago

          ah, for some reason I picture it as a paved over suburb of DFW. Probably my Plano bias showing itself.

      2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        I think fracking was actually happening or going to happen when it was banned. Ban yo ban bitches.

  30. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Some idiot (Chuck Todd, probably) was on my teevee yesterday yammering excitedly about how the downward trend in religiosity spells doom- DOOM, I tells ya!- for the Republican Party.
    I've got my fingers crossed; now, if we can just figger out how to slap some sense into Democrats...

    1. Juice   10 years ago

      Well, it's doom for the current GOP. As long as we have the current electoral system we will have a 2 party system. The GOP and the Dems unfortunately will be those 2 parties for the foreseeable future.

    2. Winston   10 years ago

      if we can just figger out how to slap some sense into Democrats

      Rand and Mencken thought that FDR was a sensible Democrat back in 1932 you know....

      1. Winston   10 years ago

        Also lack of Republicans aren't making Detroit Democrats sensible...

  31. PBR Streetgang   10 years ago

    More insectionality crises? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015.....ing-white/

    1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      Can someone explain to me why this is news?

      1. tarran   10 years ago

        Because in the U.S. there is enough food being produced and distributed that no one need starve; ditto regarding potable water; and anyone who really wants it and is semifunctional can find shelter (generally).

        Our society can carry massive numbers of useless mouths that would literally starve to death in earlier, more difficult times. It's the terrible downside of prosperity which is more than outweighed by the good things associated with it.

        1. Brett L   10 years ago

          Not to worry, a large segment of society is working on rectifying this and will then blame the result on "bad luck".

          1. Coeus   10 years ago

            +1 Lazarus Long

      2. GILMORE   10 years ago

        "Racist Tweet Flap"

        Ahh, the modern 'tweet flap'. Just when i thought "blogging" was the stupidest term ever invented in the internet age.

        "Boston University Professor Saida Grundy's tweets deriding white men are her business, according to the school. (Boston University)"

        Versus Duke, where if you make a comment on a NYT article directed at no one in particular, saying things that are "insensitive"* (subject to interpretation), you are basically out of a job.

        "Boston University, which has already condemned the racist Tweets of an incoming faculty member, has now been sent an outrageous Facebook exchange in which a poster who identifies herself as the controversial sociology professor mercilessly ridicules a white rape victim.

        Saida Grundy, a newly hired professor at Boston University who recently said she regrets tweeting that white males are a "problem population," and other racially charged comments, is now accused of Facebook posts in which she appeared to taunt a white rape victim. That victim, Meghan Chamberlin, told FoxNews.com that the posts, made in a February public chat, felt "like a kick in the stomach.""

        Why is it news?

        Because colleges, social-justice themes are just hot internet topics?

        1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

          Because colleges, social-justice themes are just hot internet topics?

          God, I hate the Internet.

          1. GILMORE   10 years ago

            is the enlightened reaction to these "SJW intersectional flare-ups" to completely ignore them?

          2. GILMORE   10 years ago

            also, i am confused about the proper pronunciation of "LOL"

            I've always articulated the individual letters. "El oh el"

            but i hears the kids say, "Lolls" now.

            I was familiar with "Lulz" as the plural, but with a more-distinct "ulll" sound rather than "awl"

            My favorite personal real-life usage of the term is when you say something insane, then cap it with "lol" to defuse it, as though it means nothing. Example

            1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

              I do think it's generational. I've always read the word as a string of letters, but it seems to have evolved over the years into a acronym.

              1. iCarl   10 years ago

                Sheesh, old people.

            2. db   10 years ago

              I depends if you're a yinzer or not.

          3. GILMORE   10 years ago

            lastly

            you have to love that piece for this =

            "you're vilifying my act of intellectual altruism"

            (slow clap)

            I am adding that my list of epic lines to re-use as frequently as possible

            1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

              I'd swear that was a comedic line from a sitcom. How can a person say that, let alone write that, in seriousness, without blood spurting out of their nose immediately?

        2. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

          That she gets to call herself a 'professor' is quite the intellectual injustice, n'est pas?

          1. Trouser-Pod   10 years ago

            Yeah, but, I doubt that BU will be substituting in more appropriate title of "Cunt".

  32. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Speaking of the cops: the head of the Fraternal Order of Police has apparently been squealing piteously about Obama's treacherous backstabbery on the army surplus front. How will those cops make it home safe without armor plated tracked vehicles to serve "failure to appear" warrants for parking tickets?

    1. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      Why do you want these brave heroes to put their lives at risk, Brooks?

  33. Tak Kak   10 years ago

    "The GOP is getting old and dying, a phenomenon that will obviously continue...or not."

    Ironically, they have the younger average age leaders.

    Also, young people aren't a reliable voting block for Democrats (or anyone).

    http://www.iop.harvard.edu/dem.....oting-bloc

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      How fucking old is the only possible candidate for the Democrats? She's like as old as two of the other side's candidates.

      1. Tak Kak   10 years ago

        Even mentioning her age is sexist! Or something...

  34. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    The world's best-funded bitcoin startup has revealed plans to market a line of chips to embed in consumer devices, allowing smartphones and other Internet-connected gadgets to continuously earn digital currency through the process known as "mining."

    http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/20.....ing-chips/

    1. Brett L   10 years ago

      And somehow none of it will accrue to the individual owners of the devices.

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Read towards the end of the article. That's where it gets most interesting.

  35. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Liberla declared free of Ebola; area pants-shitters hardest hit.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....e24359816/

  36. Derpetologist   10 years ago

    Spot the Not: Hillary Clinton books

    1. America by Heart

    2. Hard Choices

    3. It Takes a Village

    4. Dear Socks, Dear Buddy

    5. Living History

    6. The Unique Voice of Hillary Clinton

    1. Almanian!   10 years ago

      6 - I didn't Google

    2. GILMORE   10 years ago

      I'll go for 6 as well.

      god, she's racked up 4+ book titles? !@#*$&@ politicians

    3. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      6

    4. Derpetologist   10 years ago

      All picked the same and all picked wrong.

      1 is the Not. Sarah Palin's name is on that one.

  37. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    "The Unique Vice of Hillary Clinton"?

    .
    NOOOOOOOO!
    *sticks fingers in ears, shrieks, runs away*

    1. Rich   10 years ago

      Do not click this link.

      1. Slammer   10 years ago

        Hell sounds like that...FOREVER

      2. Derpetologist   10 years ago

        She cackles like a cartoon witch.

  38. Winston   10 years ago

    So Hillary and Bernie want to gut the first Amendment because of Citizen's United. One more Supreme Court appointment away....

  39. Derpetologist   10 years ago

    Spot the Not: Newt Gingrich books

    1. To Save America

    2. To Renew America

    3. A Contract with the Earth

    4. Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less

    5. Duplicity: A Novel

    6. Real Men Know When to Pray

    1. db   10 years ago

      4 sounds like something a politician would say, but I'm betting on that "wide stance" guy, not Gingrich.

    2. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

      Real Men Know When to Pray

      ...on Their Secretaries.

    3. GILMORE   10 years ago

      God, politician's book titles.

      I must hand it to you Derp. You will scrape funk out of the bottom of the barrel, and when that is done, you will look under the barrel. Your tenacity is to be celebrated.

    4. Derpetologist   10 years ago

      6 is the Not. Although there are books with similar titles.

  40. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Ex Machina is a really good movie. It's got the Cyto-stamp of approval for sure.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      And I was thinking about watching that, too. Too bad I just learned that it sucks.

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Whoever told you it sucks is wrong. It's real good.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          Listen, could you do me a favor? Go watch the new Star Wars movie right away. In a sneak if you can. Then tell me whether it's any good or not.

      2. MJGreen   10 years ago

        I saw it yesterday. It's a good little scifi flick.

    2. GILMORE   10 years ago

      Are you also a huge Bryan Adams fan?

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Never heard of him before.

  41. Andrew S.   10 years ago

    via Charles CW Cooke: ew.

  42. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

    UC Berkeley creates strain of yeast that produces morphine:

    Discovery opens door for homemade morphine, painkillers

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      Fascinating.

      Relevant: http://muufri.com/

      1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

        Should really change the home brewing scene. ;

        1. GILMORE   10 years ago

          +1 Junky Ale

        2. GILMORE   10 years ago

          in all seriousness, these genetically engineered specialty-yeast organisms require like billion $ facilities to make them do their magic.

          this is my limited understanding at least. I did some consulting briefly for a company that was trying to sell their Ethanol-shitting-yeast technology, back when Ethanol wasn't considered the stupidest fucking thing in the world.

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            Making milk from yeast shouldn't require a facility that advanced, and will eventually be a home-brew thing. It will end supply management.

            1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

              I recall Asimov's Caves of Steel having most of the food produced in the severely overpopulated Earth from imitations made from yeast.

          2. Bobarian (sexbot hand model)   10 years ago

            Ethanol from corn when used as fuel is all kinds of stupid, but ethanol in and of itself, is some of the greatest stuff in the world.

            Producing fuel from non-food sources would be great, as well.

            1. GILMORE   10 years ago

              " ethanol in and of itself, is some of the greatest stuff in the world.'

              I drink it all the time.

            2. Tonio   10 years ago

              Isn't methanol easier to produce from non-food-for-humans sources?

              1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                That's why I drink methanol instead.

            3. Beautiful Bean Footage   10 years ago

              Ethanol made from corn used as fuel is great...

              When it's being used to fuel my nightlife... 😉

          3. Tonio   10 years ago

            All yeast shit* ethanol, some moreso than others. I think it's the engineering of the strains that require billion-dollah facilities, not the production facilities, unless you're talking superscale production.

            *It's a metabolic byproduct but not technically shit since...something, something, digestive tract, something.

  43. James Ard   10 years ago

    After their fraudulent reviews of front loading washing machines versus top loading washers, why is Consumer Reports still in business?. Now they are at it again. Giving a car they can't even get into a 99 out of 100? disgusting hackery.

  44. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Is Ender's Game a good book? Some people here trashed it, but the area hipsters are always trashing stuff for being popular. I liked the movie with Harrison Ford a lot.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      I liked the first book fine. But it's not the greatest book of all time. Boggles my mind that people rank it as one of the greatest science fiction novels ever.

      1. Andrew S.   10 years ago

        I actually like Ender's Shadow (same story, different perspective) more than Ender's Game.

      2. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

        It's because they often first read it when they are 12.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          While some of my favorite science fiction is among books I read as a kid, that's more because I read some major classics at a tender age. Like, say, Dune. But I don't like the crap I read back then just because I read it back then.

      3. db   10 years ago

        Yes, same here. It is entertaining and well written (as is "Ender's Shadow") but it can't compete with many Heinlein, Vinge, or Niven works.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          Niven is a great frustration for me now. I like many of his older books, but he seems to have completely lost the knack in recent, well, decades.

          1. db   10 years ago

            I have to be honest; I haven't read many of Niven's newer works other than the Ringworld sequels and I agree that the older material was better. His collaboration with Pournelle on *Inferno* wad very enjoyable.

            1. Brett L   10 years ago

              Niven & Pournelle are great. Lucifer's Hammer, Footfall... Destroying the world together is something they make entertaining

    2. Medical Physics Guy   10 years ago

      I got through it just a year ago. It read like pre-teen fiction to me.

      I have gotten really into Iain M Banks' stuff and it is hard to make the transition to other sci fi. He has such big literary chops he makes many of the famous authors read like they belong in the children's section. I am hoping to have some luck with Richard K Morgan or William Gibson.

      1. Episiarch   10 years ago

        Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs stuff is really, really good. I would suggest avoiding all his other works. Gibson is good, but I haven't read anything of his since 1990. I would suggest trying Neal Asher and Alistair Reynolds. Asher is especially consistently excellent, and it's all extremely hard scifi with lots of action and violence. Start with The Skinner.

      2. Tonio   10 years ago

        Srsly? Banks never impressed me as a literary scifi author. Should I revisit him?

        1. Episiarch   10 years ago

          Dude, Banks is a really fucking good writer. His books can be offputting to some since they are very long, very verbose, and his universe is...somewhat utopian. But really, the guy is a very, very good writer. You should absolutely try him as you may find you love his stuff. I've read every single one of his scifi novels.

          I would suggest starting with something like Player of Games. It's an excellent example of his style and is highly interesting to boot, plus it introduces Special Circumstances (my moral abhorrence of SC aside).

  45. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    I have decided that my life's work will be of two projects:

    1) Forever Ford: Harrison Ford cannot die; it will be more than America can take. It will make me cry like a bitch. I will clone him and transplant his brain/mind into the clone to keep Ford alive.

    2) Ayn Abrams: I will somehow create a hybrid thingy with the writing ability of pre-Atlas Shrugged Ayn Rand and the directing ability of JJ Abrams. It will be amazing.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      Do you like his TV shows? Lost, Fringe, etc.?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

        Why do you care? JJ Abrams attempted to destroy Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan for a whole generation so any devotees to his work should be shunned like an Amishman with a zipper.

        1. db   10 years ago

          JJ Abrams' initial Trek offering was the last movie I have ever gone to a theater to see. It was that bad, it killed any desire I had to ever pay for a Hollywood film again.

          1. Winston   10 years ago

            Hyperbole meters are off the scale Keptan!

            1. db   10 years ago

              What I stated is objectively true.

              1. Winston   10 years ago

                Bet you're pissed he didn't include perfect humans who never argue with another and speechify about the evils of money and fight even capitalist Ferengi with huge penises.

                1. db   10 years ago

                  He took a story told in an established universe with well known characters and altered it to fit his style, which is not a particularly bad or good thing to do. He retold stories that needed no retelling and altered the universe unnecessarily. The whole project was basically "JJ Abrams' *Trek Babies*." Better to let the whole franchise retire than reboot it.

                  1. db   10 years ago

                    I have little desire to defend Roddenberry's ridiculous economics or political views, but Abrams turned the universe into yet another venue for standard Hollywood summer blockbuster fare, to which I offer a hearty yawn.

                    1. Winston   10 years ago

                      Sad to say but Wrath of Khan did that already.

                  2. Tonio   10 years ago

                    The tale need no retelling, as tales don't have actual needs. What he did do is make that tale accessible for a younger generation. The perfect is ever the enemy of the achievable, database.

                    1. db   10 years ago

                      I'm saying that Abrams, like so many other Hollywood filmmakers, is simply living off the fame of previous successes, not coming up with something new. I would have been content to leave ST:ToS at "Undiscovered Country." How many reboots of old material do we need, anyway?

                    2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                      How DARE Abrams make ST watchable! Doesn't he know the actors are just supposed to stare dramatically into each other while cymbal-heavy music plays?

                      I can always tell the butthurt old Trek fans by their blind hate. This db is in particular so devastated by how much better new Trek is that he can't watch movies in cinema anymore. Incredible.

                    3. db   10 years ago

                      Whatever. I'm not really a fan of watching movies anyway. You're willfully ignoring every point I have tried to make about the vapidity and lack of originality in these blockbuster films.

          2. Tonio   10 years ago

            Srsly, database? Abrams' STTOS reboot was probably the best we could have reasonably gotten. Which is not to sing its praises, so much as to appreciate it keeping Kirk, Spock, Uhura, Bones and McCoy alive for another generation.

      2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Never watched them. I have heard that he didn't have direct control of Lost, which is probably why it sucked.

    2. GILMORE   10 years ago

      "the directing ability of JJ Abrams"

      That's a thing?

      1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

        Those lenses don't flare themselves!

        1. GILMORE   10 years ago

          true that

        2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          You're just an angry Lucasbot!

          Wait, what to trekkies call Star Wars fans again?

      2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        When you can make Star Trek watchable, you've got the ability.

        1. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

          Or an audience who are not goldfish.

  46. AlgerHiss   10 years ago

    Republicans are old.

    And Hillary Clinton is....old too.

  47. Winston   10 years ago

    So speaking of Mad Men did Sally Draper get an abortion (and die) or get involved with a black guy? If not I'm teh disappoint.

    1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

      Sally brought her black boyfriend to the office to announce she was pregnant, when Sal suddenly reappeared and shot D. B. Cooper with Peter's rifle. The trauma of this caused the baby daddy to jump off the top of the skyscraper.

      1. lap83   10 years ago

        That would've been a much more exciting ending.

  48. Winston   10 years ago

    I'm surprised that Nick hates the M*A*S*H season finale. Comedies turning serious and specifying about the evils of war is what cosmopolitanism is about.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Yeah, those cosmopolites, wink wink...ya know what I mean?

  49. Russell   10 years ago

    Pakistan needs braver tourists

  50. Russell   10 years ago

    Pakistan needs braver tourists

  51. adolphowisner   10 years ago

    My best friend's mother-in-law makes $85 /hour on the internet . She has been out of work for 5 months but last month her pay was $16453 just working on the internet for a few hours.
    Visit this website ????? http://www.jobsfish.com

  52. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." Or, of course, there's Socrates, but I think he was just kidding around.

  53. Free Society   10 years ago

    The Dunning?Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Conversely, highly skilled individuals tend to underestimate their relative competence, erroneously assuming that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others

    Libertarians are more likely to fall into the conversely group. We are at times flabbergasted that people like Elizabeth Warren have ideas that go into such wide circulation. But apparently, appreciating the simple nuances of freedom is something that's exceedingly hard to do for most people when they can't seem to see the fault of the arguments coming out of the free shit brigade.

    I learned a long time ago to assume that nearly everyone has no ability to think about social institutions and philosophy in a rational manner. I don't remember the last time this assumption proved invalid. It proves true for non-libertarians at about the same rate that a neurosurgeon can safely assume that no one else in the room can perform a brain surgery.

  54. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

    You Dunning-Krugered yourself.

  55. Almanian!   10 years ago

    Yeah, it's all fun and games till you drink the HEMLOCK. So Krates - what a jerk.

  56. Bobarian (sexbot hand model)   10 years ago

    I'm now worshipping at the apse of ProL.

  57. db   10 years ago

    "In the immortal words of Socrates: 'I drank *what*?'"

  58. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    All we are is dust in the wind, dude.

  59. Agammamon   10 years ago

    'I drank what?"

    - Socrates' last words

  60. Agammamon   10 years ago

    Damnit.

  61. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

    She's the Barack Obama of mayors. She's gonna really fuck shit up here.

  62. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

    There are just too many good restaurants downtown to move out to the suburbs.

  63. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Ha ha. Why people resist my obviously superior tastes isn't clear to me. I guess having such a radiant beacon of standards thrust upon you is frightening.

  64. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    That's exactly right. It is frightening.

  65. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Relax and just let it into you. Remember, there's nothing to be afraid of except for the 'people' who seriously enjoy watching The Fifth Element and old Star Trek in a non-ironic manner. Together, we can fight them.

  66. Entropy Void   10 years ago

    SWYDT.

    Ick.

  67. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    No offense, but you're my taste enemy.

  68. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    "Listen, could you do me a favor? Go watch the new Star Wars movie right away. In a sneak if you can. Then tell me whether it's any good or not."

    Keep your friends close, and your taste enemies closer?

    Seriously, can you even think of one instance where I have exhibited anything less than stellar taste in culture? Don't even try.

  69. Sudden   10 years ago

    I'm your taste clone as I like deep dish pizza

  70. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    Well, see, here's the deal. If you like it, then I won't watch it. If you hate it, I will. I suppose I might have to decide on my own if you're somewhere between the two extremes. The canary is only useful if the invisible gas kills it, after all.

  71. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Have fun watching bad movies.

  72. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    You assistance in this regard is greatly appreciated.

    This actually gives me an idea. A movie review site that specializes in reverse reviews.

  73. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    We're an elite cadre.

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