President Obama Pledges to Cut U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions 28 Percent By 2025
Who needs advice and consent anymore?

Earlier today, the Obama Administration filed its formal intended determined national contribution (INDC) at the United Nations as part of a process agreed to at earlier U.N. climate change conferences. Other nations are supposed to issue their INDCs before the up climate change meetup in Paris this coming December. The idea is to see if all of the INDCs added up will be adequate to prevent "dangerous anthropogenic interference" with the climate as agreed to under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change back in 1992.
The White House Fact Sheet says that the Obama Administration intends that the U.S. cut its greenhouse gas emissions by up to 28 percent by 2025. From the Fact Sheet:
The U.S. target will roughly double the pace of carbon pollution reduction in the United States from 1.2 percent per year on average during the 2005-2020 period to 2.3-2.8 percent per year on average between 2020 and 2025. This ambitious target is grounded in intensive analysis of cost-effective carbon pollution reductions achievable under existing law and will keep the United States on the pathway to achieve deep economy-wide reductions of 80 percent or more by 2050.
The Obama Administration aims to achieve these goals by subsidizing low-carbon energy R&D ($80 billion so far), subsidizing the deployment of wind and solar power; imposing stringent CAFE standards on automobiles, and mandating that electric power generators to cut back on their carbon dioxide emissions by 30 percent by 2030.
Obama pledged in his first term that the U.S. would cut its emissions 17 percent below their 2005 levels by 2020. So far emissions are down about 10 percent.
The Obama INDC pledge was hailed by some environmentalists. For example, the World Resources Institute issued a statement from its climate change program director Jennifer Morgan:
"The United States' proposal shows that it is ready to lead by example on the climate crisis. By enacting these common sense actions, the U.S. can grow its economy and save money through cleaner technologies.
"This is a serious and achievable commitment. WRI research finds that under its existing federal authority, the United States can reach its proposed target to cut emissions 26 to 28 percent from 2005 levels by 2025. Going forward, additional opportunities for deeper reductions will be increasingly available as technology trends make clean power and other low-carbon solutions more affordable. The United States' acknowledgement of the need for "deep decarbonization" sends a positive signal.
Other environmentalists were much less generous in their assessment. Meena Raman, Negotiations Expert at Third World Network said.
"The US proposal to the UN climate talks sends a dangerous signal that the world is drastically off track to confront the climate crisis. No credible scientific assessment can say that the US proposal sets us on a path to avoid the gravest risks that climate change poses to our food systems. It completely ignores its huge historical responsibility for causing the climate crisis. This is a proposal for more drought, more devastated fish stocks, and more wars over water. The US proposal is an ingredient in a recipe for disaster."
And of course, there are those who argue that the whole plan is a political non-starter. Myron Ebell from the Competitive Enterprise Institute is one:
"President Obama has pursued his domestic climate agenda without trying to build support for it with the American people or in Congress, and today's INDC submission is no different. The President thinks he can make an international commitment to reduce greenhouse emissions by up to 28 percent of 2005 levels, and thereby limit economic growth, without consulting Congress. The administration is making this commitment to the forthcoming Paris Accord under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change without any authorization from Congress and without broad public support. Governments in other countries should be aware that the President's plan is dead on arrival in Congress.
As Ebell points out, it is extremely unlikely that a formal ratification of the INDC by the U.S. Senate will occur. As I reported from the Lima climate change conference last December, the president is most likely planning an end run around the Congress:
Next year's Paris agreement could be interpreted by the Obama administration as not being an actual treaty requiring the Senate's advice and consent before ratification. It may instead simply be construed as an elaboration of our already existing obligations to stabilize greenhouse gases under the UNFCCC. If the Paris agreement were more procedural in form, perhaps it could be taken as being merely an extension of the UNFCCC, speculated former Clinton White House environmental aide Elliot Diringer in response to a question during a session at the U.S. Center at the Lima COP-20. In such a case, President Obama might argue that he could implement such a Paris climate agreement as an executive agreement.
It should get pretty interesting this year during the run up to the Paris climate change conference in December.
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Now there's a meeting I could get behind, so to speak.
And in sure in 10 years people will care what Obama promised.
Yeah, what's his authority for this? Jesus, we're getting close to overt authoritarianism. How will we be able to tell when the last vestiges of the republic have been swept away? It's always so hard to tell when you're living in the middle of the transition.
Ends justify the means. S'all good.
He's the president. That means dictator, right? You know, in the old Roman sense? Like Sulla?
Maybe one day, we'll call the leader of country "Barack" like the Romans named their office of leadership after two of their leaders.
Bushama sounds more title-ish.
As a variant of Mubarak, I submit without comment:
Holy shit, that's brilliant. Of course! Brak.
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Kevin R
Augustus held constitutional titles. A bunch of them at once. That's probably what the American dictator will do. President, Speaker of the House, President of the Senate, Chief Justice, and God-Emperor.
Maybe something like "His Grace, Joffrey of the Houses Baratheon and Lannister, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm." Or "Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, the Unburnt, Queen of Meereen, Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Breaker of Chains, and Mother of Dragons."
You don't want to get too extravagant, though. Right?
Pontifex Maximus and Witchsmeller Pursuivant.
The Conqueror Worm?
Well, he's already entitled to the agnomen "Afghanus"
Don't forget
Iraqus
Libyus
Somethingsomethingfreehealthcareforallus
Postracialus
Well, Libya is, as they say, "in tres partes". So we'd have to say Libyanus, Tripolitanianus, et Cyrenaicanus
That's fine. Mo' titles, mo' problems.
*snips a few more sentences from Article I Section 9*
There. Soon enough the Constitution will be easier to memorize than the Pledge of Allegiance.
Yeah, what's his authority for this?
The same authority that allows a cop to beat someone to death in front of a crowd. Who will stop him?
How will we be able to tell when the last vestiges of the republic have been swept away?
When the regional governors are given direct control over their territories?
When there is a battle station above the US to keep the States in line?
-1 Alderaan
"Who needs advice and consent anymore?"
The Constitution is for suckers!
Suckers? Don't you mean crazy people?
Only a crazy person would thing the Constitution means anything. After all, who's going to enforce it? It can't enforce itself.
So by taking a few words,
promote the general welfare... necessary and proper ... regulate commerce
and ignoring the rest, you get unlimited power.
THE CONSTITUTION IS LIKE ELEVENTY HUNDRED YEARS OLD!
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it."
I eagerly await Tier 37 diesel engines.
The man does know that he'll be out of office come Jan 2017, right? And then he gets to follow the tradition of ex-presidential uselessness - I mean, outside of Carter, when has an ex-president had *any* post-office relevance?
? Carter?
He built all of those houses.
He didn't build that!
He didn't build that!
Carter gets called on for his opinion on all sorts of shit - for some reason he's managed to reach 'statesman' status.
But who ever called on
Nixon
Ford
Reagan
Bush
Clinton
or Bush
for anything after they left office?
To be fair, lot's of brothel owners have called on Clinton.
Huh, I thought it would have been the other way 'round.
"Bill, haven't seen you around for a couple of months...dropping by soon?"
"When are you going to pay us?"
Bill Clinton's been real relevant to underage sex slaves in the Caribbean.
Seems like Carter has gone batshit crazy in his old age.
Rabbit-induced rabies will do that to you.
In his old age?
*scratches head, wonders about AJB's age*
Taft?
Dammit.
Taft?
Huh. President Andrew Shepherd had promised to lower emissions to 20% before 2015. I guess Obama has a sweetheart working in the background...
Once the aliens invaded, those promises were off the table.
Yes, but he did bag Annette Benning...
What, no mention of the subsidies for electricity bills? They will after all "necessarily have to skyrocket". Oh well, just add it to the tab I guess.
I wonder how the senate is going to vote on this.
Obama will say that he's going to ask the House and Senate for permission as a courtesy (because he doesn't *have* to) and they'll hem and haw and fail to respond.
You know who else asked the legislature for an Erm?chtigungsgesetz.
Maduro?
King George III?
Palpatine?
That's great. He can start by banning all travel for every fucking government employee, past and present. You want Al Gore to speak at your climate conference? Tough titties, he's gonna have to Skype it in.
I like how we have one post where Obama does something useful for a change (commuting sentences) and then that post is followed by his latest buffoonery on Climate Change.
Well balanced Reason!
(yes, I'll drink)
You can only offer a balanced view of a man's actions if his actions are balanced in the first place.
Don't blame Reason for this, if you have something else good the man's done while in office - offer it up.
Making cigarette manufacturers stop putting accelerants in smokes.
What they never, ever say when they announce things like this: 1) how much does this cost, and 2) how much cooler will the world be? The answer to #1 always seems to have 9-12 zeros to the left of the decimal, and the answer to #2 always seems to have 2-4 or more zeros to the right of the decimal.
+1E-09
Avogadro's Number, coming soon to a national debt near you.
"Obama Administration intends that the U.S. cut its greenhouse gas emissions by up to 28 percent by 2025"
Get rid of all the politicians and their hot air and you could do that in a year.
He will do this by sealing the border to prevent a doubling of the US population in next 30 years, fast-tracking permits for nuclear power plants, and building up the electrical power grid in the northeastern US so that electrical heating is less expensive than oil heating. Just like he's Lee Kuan Yew on a meth binge.
hahaha
But plants thrive on CO2. Why does he hate the Earth?
Actually, hating the earth would be better than their real reasons which is more power and control over us all.
But plants thrive on CO2.
Yeah....it's like "Brawndo"!
Electrolytes are what plants crave
I'm beginning to have some slight reservations about the sincerity of President Obama's commitment to our way of life and system of governance.
racist
YOUR DOUBT IS YOUR WEAKNESS
LOOK DEEP INTO HIS EYES AND YOU WILL BELIEVE
I was expecting this.
Whoa. I just zoned out there for a minute. ribbet.
Also = they bear a significant resemblance to one another.
When Barack was a young man, he foolishly chased after the secret of steel.
It was only later that he discovered the strength of flesh.
And now he wears his crown on a troubled brow.
Not leading a motorcade down the 405 freeway in West Los Angeles in rush-hour traffic would be a start. The OJ Simpson reference was wrong.
I think the only way Frderalism returns is with s secession. If Texas said "Fuck it, I'm out" who would do anything? Proggies would piss and moan but nobody would pick up a weapon. After enough seceded they might all decide to get together and form some sort of Union. A union with limited power.
I suspect that, depending on the state, a sizable fraction of ideologues would say "Good riddance".
Oh, no they wouldn't.
". . . the essentially international character of the class struggle and the necessity of global scope are critical elements and a chief explanation of the failure of socialism in one country."
The revolution has to be global or it won't work. That's why they build walls and line them with guns pointing inwards.
Not a chance. Letting anyone escape is not how they do this. Because they know their desired world will suck for most people (just not them, of course), but they need those people to steal from and enslave and control. If people can just leave...most everyone eventually will.
There was a reason East Germany built the Berlin Wall and the Soviets didn't let anyone leave without supervision. You can't have a glorious revolution without walls and guard towers.
Yes, but you're forgetting something - progressives are pussies, the Texans are armed, and a huge percentage of our soldiers come from the South.
If Texas seceded, progressives would do absolutely nothing about it.
No, they wouldn't, though they would scream bloody murder. The feds would do something about it. There was a war fought over this very thing about 150 years ago, you know. It was kind of nasty.
There was a war fought over this thing when the north actually had capable fighting men as opposed to Brooklynite hipsters.
You're also ignoring the fact that the vast majority of new enlistees to the army are from red states. And the south today has an industrial base as strong or stronger than the North.
I don't think anyone is fighting a war over this in 2015. We got tired out by Iraq in less than a decade and how many Americans died in Iraq? You think the American public today is going to accept tens of millions of dead Americans in order to keep Texas in the Union?
I think you'd be surprised what the federal government would do when its total sovereignty is questioned; especially when it has "precedent". Remember, if the feds let one state go, there will be more. Do you think the politician scum in Washington who are used to being bigshots in the government of the most powerful country in the world want to see that "most powerful" status go in the tank?
You also keep returning to a North/South dynamic when there isn't that in play here.
Outside of sanctions I think they do shit. And if they actually called on the military to take arms up against Texas my gut feeling is the rising mutiny would end up with a majority joining the seceded, a large portion refusing to fight and not enough left over to mount any serious resistance. In fact, any call to arms may very well result in the union breaking up quicker than if they did nothing. Just my guess.
Except that America, in reality, is purple.
Yup, and there is a reason that the largest US military reservation in the lower 48 is located deep in the heart of Texas. Those Texian boys got ideas once before, ya know.
If that reason is to deter Texas I think it would have the opposite effect. The personnel in Texas would more likely become part of the Texas military. I'm sure a few would leave, but you could consider most of the equipment and personnel donations to the seceded government.
Colloidal silver works too.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm.....MC2590638/
The recipe calls for two species of Allium (garlic and onion or leek), wine and oxgall (bile from a cow's stomach) to be brewed in a brass vessel...The book included an instruction for the recipe to be left to stand for nine days before being strained through a cloth.
Who would have guessed such a concoction would prove lethal??
That's would they call a palette cleanser in Scotland.
Its 3/4 the ingredient list of Irn Bru.
Hey?! LEAVE JOCK JUICE ALONE!
I am sure you already have your bags ready and your reservations done...
Israel should kidnap Barack Obama and put him on trial like a Nazi, Ukip candidate says (exceprt from the link)
"Just kidnap the bugger, like they did to Eichman, who suddenly found that he'd woken up in Israel. The problem is that Israeli jails are far more humane and adherent to human rights than American ones."
I'm waiting for him any day now to start making it easier for nuclear plants to be licensed and for insane radiation limits to be relaxed.. I'll just hold my breath!
Nukular is dangerous. Wind and solar will save us from the demon atom.
And how about delivering on yet another failed promise and mandate.
So Barack Obama made a promise that has no force of law and which will basically just be ignored by the next president, correct?
Is that what I'm getting here?
The Trayvon Martin Lied the third verse concerns our 44th President.
What have Der Schwartzers ever done to you, you meeskite chozzer khnyok?
A broken teleprompter can cut Obama's emissions by 28%, not counting all the "uhh's".
more green cronyism
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....d-company/
^This^
That is all this is. All it has ever been. All it will ever be.
Green cronyism endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. Green cronyism was always here. Before man was, green cronyism waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and always will be.
So... less time in Air Force One?
How are they getting the Paris summit? Walking or rowing, I assume.
Irish, I read the av club article by sonia you put up earlier. And the comments, with an eye towards Ayn Rand.
If I'm ever in Chicago you owe me alcohol
I didn't put that up and you owe me an apology for assuming I'd inflict that on you.
I mean, I'm horrible and post things like that all the time, you just can't blame that particular one on me.
Every Hitler has a von Papen to show him the way. Obama has the maturity and temperament of a late Weimar-era political hack.
So does this mean he'll STFU and tell Pelosi to do the same? That should cut emissions right there!
The White House Fact Sheet says that the Obama Administration intends that the U.S. cut its greenhouse gas emissions by up to 28 percent by 2025. From the Fact Sheet:
I choose to read this that Obama himself will cut his own greenhouse gases by 28 percent.
Because outside of that, I don't know who any of these people are, what their authority is etc.
We could cut a lot of noxious gas emissions from Washington simply by curtailing politicians' speeches.
Damn, that was too easy.
You know, it all works its way through one way or the other, or it doesn't. The President says the reduction can be achieved through existing laws already on the books, and believes that there are ways to avoid it all being considered a treaty. The GOP disagrees. All part of life.
I will be interested to see how one business who tracks these things each year (PriceWaterhouseCoopers) will figure in all of these pledges and their potential impact. In the past PwC has noted that science says we should limit any increase in temperature to 2 degrees, current pledges would have the world headed to 3 degrees, and current actions are headed to 4 degrees.
http://www.pwc.co.uk/uk/assets.....x-2014.pdf
But the GOP is right when they say that it can all be undone. These things are referendums in the coming election in 2016, just like Obamacare was in 2012.
What bugs me is the precedent. Obama is on his way out and couldn't possibly seize power much beyond what he's already done. He's just not respected or popular enough to pull that off, assuming we're far gone enough to allow anyone to do it yet. But one of his successors may very well take advantage of this precedent.
Yes, we have. It's been ratcheting up, never down, for quite some time now. There's a point where we'll be there, likely with the facade of a republic still in place. Heck, maybe we're there now and just aren't feeling the full effects just yet.
I think I may have said this before on some other thread, but you guys are extremely lucky that Obama is profoundly incompetent, because any moderately competent charismatic leader with the cult of personality he had coming out of 2008 could have easily pulled a Caesar. At worse Obama is instead a really ineffectual Sulla; nowhere near as efficient as him, but he's the figure that proves how easy it is to grab power and hold onto it.
Obama is way too lazy for that to ever be an issue.