Neuroscientists Challenge Myths About Men and Porn
Porn ? penis problems

It's a popular cultural trope these days that watching porn is making men, especially young men, sexually dysfunctional. "Porn is ruining the sex lives of an entire generation," trumpeted Business Insider a few years ago, citing a Psychology Today report relying on bit of neuro-nonsense to get the point across:
Today's users can force [their] release by watching porn in multiple windows, searching endlessly, fast-forwarding to the bits they find hottest, switching to live sex chat, viewing constant novelty, firing up their mirror neurons with video action and cam-2-cam, or escalating to extreme genres and anxiety-producing material. It's all free, easy to access, available within seconds, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
This basic narrative, with its mixed techno/sex panic and vaguely scientific undertones, can be seen everywhere from New York magazine to consumer health sites, Esquire to The American Conservative to The Daily Mail, Christian websites to Thought Catalog. Many use a common tack: starting with a person or group of people who found porn to be problematic (a self-described porn or sex addict, members of the "No Fap" Reddit community), then extrapolating these experiences to make a more general warning about porn's detrimental effects. The genre subtly shames both women and men—the former for not being enough like porn stars to keep their men interested, the latter for letting their libido rule them—and often veers into discussions of whether more government intervention is warranted.
But the narrative at the core of this genre is a crock, according to a new study published in the journal Sexual Medicine. Researchers from UCLA and Montreal's Concordia University collected data from 280 (mostly young) men on the average number of hours per week they spent watching pornography (answers ranged from zero to 25); their sex drives more generally; whether they were in a monogamous relationship (123 were); and their erectile functioning. Participants also watched a very "vanilla" porn film in the lab and reported their arousal level.
The researchers found no relationship between pornography habits and experiencing erectile dysfunction among sexually active participants. "Many clinicians claim that watching erotica makes men unable to respond sexually to 'normal' sexual situations with a partner," said study co-author Nicole Prause, an associate research scientist at UCLA's Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior. "That was not the case in our sample."
"These data suggest that inventing a new problem—porn causing erectile problems—for which there is no tested treatment, may be a disservice to patients," she continued.
Erection trouble in the study population was a product of issues such as "performance anxiety, poor cardiovascular health, or side-effects from substance abuse," said Jim Pfaus, a professor in Concordia's psychology and behavioral neurobiology department and the other study lead.
The researchers also found that men who watched more porn at home reported higher levels of arousal when they watched porn at the lab. "While one could object that this was expected since they like sex films," Prause said, "the result is important because clinicians often claim that men get desensitized by watching these films. Rather, "they are responding more strongly to very vanilla erotica than the guys for whom the films are more novel."
Participants who watched the most porn also reported feeling higher desire for sex with a partner.
"The positive relationships between [porn] viewing and many indices of sexual responsiveness suggest that [it] might even improve erectile functioning," the researchers concluded, noting that watching porn may prime men "to respond to different sexual stimuli types" in a way that "could facilitate their sexual responses to females who may vary tremendously in their sexual behavior preferences." Regardless, the "oft-repeated link between ED" and porn is mostly "perpetuated by data-poor literature."
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+1 Monty's famous Backdoor Speech.
When I was a kid, I had to sneak actual physical porno mags into the house and hide them under my mattress. Under the mattress. Like a chump. What kind of barbaric hellscape did we live in two decades ago? How did we survive? Will our children believe us when we tell them about our unbelievable suffering?
Yes - can you believe this shit? We circulated rumors about a "camp" the "big kids" had out in the woods that had porno mags. A crack expedition led to the discovery of some ripped up fragments of pages, upon one of which a boob was clearly visible.
This counted as a complete success at age 12, at least three steps up from the Sears Wish Book catalog.
A Hustler was a treasure, worth at least its weight in gold.
I can still recall the gynecological details of my first hustler centerfold viewing.
The wife and I were listening to the radio and some dude mentioned the first time he had sex, he really didn't do well because he had a distorted idea about the female anatomy. My wife started to laugh. I explained that Hustler magazine had given me a pretty good road map to female anatomy for four years before I ever had sex. Then explained that Playboy really is "for the articles", and that Hustler was for pussy.
I remember the first article I stopped to read: "The Wife-Tasting Contest."
PJ O'Rourke, if memory serves?
Hustler? You had it good. I had to make do with Playboys from the '80s.
That was mostly what I used. I still remember the names of the centerfolds in the first Playboy I filched from my dad's closet.
Me too. I think I told you guys about that time in college that I had work at the Playboy Mansion.
A haggard, chain smoking woman came up with her kid and introduced herself. She and her kid lived there because they had no where else to go.
The name sounded really familiar, and then I finally realized that I'd jerked it to this woman dozens of times as a teenager.
Dream: shattered.
HAWT
That bastard kid was the icing on the cake. He probably liked where he lived, thought.
If only it had been Anna Faris and then she could go live in a sorority house where all the girls are actually pretty fucking hot but dress badly and seem mousy until they clean themselves up. With lots and lots of bikini car washes.
Hyapatia Lee was the first model name I remember jerking it to. I was in 8th grade maybe? So, flash forward to 1991 and I'm working in a Kinko's in Bloomington, In. Guess who walks in? Hyapatia Lee. So I get an instant boner and smiling and just going out of my mind. I'm helping her with her order, and finally I just ask her if she is Hyapatia. She says yes. I told her that she was the first model I ever jacked off to. She was super nice about it and we laughed. Nice lady. She was still hot. God I wanted to bang her. But her husband was super nice, too.
Liked working with women and wouldn't do anal if memory serves.
Guess who walks in? Hyapatia Lee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2SkqaCO9c4
One of the saddest days of my young life was when I discovered that my dad had destroyed the Penthouse which featured Hyapatia Lee, Vanessa Williams and Traci Lord (at age 16, which I assume is why he got rid of it). Goddamn it, they should have just changed the age of consent for doing porn so the world didn't have to be robbed of Traci Lord.
And I still think Lee is one of the most genuinely beautiful and attractive porn stars ever.
This is the first picture I ever whacked off to. Thirty years later and I still invite him into my imagination every once in a while. Cause, dayum.
My kid sister was totally into Duran Duran growing up. I would torment her by calling him Slime on the Barn until she nearly cried.
Jeez. You may as well just rub one out to David Hasselhoff.
Grody to the max!!!
Kristen is more of a Donny Osmund type.
NICE! Diggin the 80s softened photo and the airbrush!
Fond memories!
Ha, at least my dad eschewed shitty Playboys (that was my uncle's thing) for Penthouse and then Hustler, so I was working with a better set of material. He also stored all his homegrown weed in the same place (I had to take the rods out of hinges to get in there, but I did), but I was too young to know what that was. I only cared about the porn.
Hustler?
We had some National Geographics and my uncle's medical journals. The latter featured mis-shapen and diseased people, of course.
[hmmm.... maybe that explains it ...]
This is exactly what Bo is talking about you bunch of juveniles!!!!
Mostly Playboy (funnily enough Anna Nicole Smith was the centerfold of the first one I borrowed from my dad). I always enjoyed Penthouse more though.
I can still smell the dead pine needles used to hide to piece of plywood covering the hole in the woods with the local stash.
Uncle Warty, how did you get by without having instant access to interracial midget porn videos?
Can you believe I jacked it to nothing but depictions of the nude female form???
I still get a Pavlovian halfie when I smell the cheap cologne smell of old Playboys. Anyone else?
Can you believe I jacked it to nothing but depictions of the nude female form???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's just one small step above MAXIM.
Playboy was so milquetoast that it was basically useless. Even Penthouse was pretty tame. A Hustler was better, then there were the specialty mags. I stole (yes, fuck you, it was the only way for me to get them, had I been able to buy them I would have) many a mag when an early teen.
I knew nothing about the specialty mags until I started working in a convenience store as a teen and had access to the, um, special shelf behind the counter. Those were awesome years.
See? The pearl clutchers are right!!! Playboy was gateway porn!! And now you can't even get off without some amputee on dog action.
Furry porn or GTFO
GTFO
I larfed.
I never stooped to the craven-like extreme of robbery. I paid an unfortunate boy half a chocolate bar and a choice page or two out of any mag he could get for me. Couldn't tarnish my standing as an 11 year-old businessman in the newspaper business.
I stole (yes, fuck you, it was the only way for me to get them, had I been able to buy them I would have) many a mag when an early teen.
My best friend growing up knew where, in the office of his Dad's machine shop, where the porn and liquor were stored.
One of the first few sleepovers we had where looking at porn seemed reasonable, I tried sneaking out there.
His Dad was a Vietnam Vet and generally didn't sleep well and didn't take kindly to people sneaking around his machine shop.
Not only did that scare any sort of Pavlovian responses to porn right out of me, it taught me a lot about not getting caught doing shit and/or making sure it's worth it.
I liked Penthouse. It showed all the bits and pieces, unlike Playboy where the best you could get was a little cleft of Venus, without being as gynecological as Hustler. Though Hustler was a bit more informative.
Internet Porn Simulator
Pavlovian Halfie would be an awesome band name.
My friends and I hit the jackpot when we found a trash bag full of unused porn mags under a bridge one summer afternoon. We were several miles from home and it took some doing to get it back to our tree fort by bicycle.
!!!!!!!!!
Did you hoard your treasures like a bunch of sticky-handed little Smaugs, or did you sell some of them for ditchweed and Coors Light?
Trade, I mean.
My friends and I had a circuit for trading porn. It was actually very generous, people just swapped shit back and forth (just like I do to your mom), that was all that was required. Jesus things were fucking stupid before the simplicity of the internet.
But, that makes it all the more charming.
We kept them all to ourselves. Until the sad day that someone forgot to close the bag and they got rained on.
And stop trying to get me in trouble for laughing at work. Sticky-handed little Smaugs...
Shit. At some point before web sex there was always a pack of young boys getting their sex fix rained on and utterly ruined. And the after-scramble was decidedly anxious and furtive and entailed all sorts of planning and re-routing.
unused porn mags.
chuckle.
Yeah, that stuck out at me.
"How do you use a magazine?"
I'm pretty sure most guys know how to use a porn mag.
You mean a "one hand book"
/Central Illinois
"A friend of mine taught me something really cool last Summer. Ever Bop your Baloney?"
My first Penthouse was the Madonna issue. Found it on a bike ride, abandoned in the street like Madonna's virginity.
I had that one too. I feel very sorry that Penthouse is now closing the magazine. But what can they do. There are now millions of sites that offer free pornography like pornhub and https://fapshows.com that are geting in front of them in the online business.
That reminds me of getting my little brother (I think he was 10 at the time) to dumpster dive in the recycled paper bin at the elementary school down the street. The shear volume of magazines we found, and raunchy british stuff too. Some dads in the area made me fucking rich that summer!
At a certain age each of my sons disappeared into their bedrooms with their iPads for a month or so. I had to explain to my wife that it was critical for her to make sure she knocked before entering their room. Ideally she would wear a bell like you do when you hike in bear country.
She was absolutely appalled by the idea that her babies were now up in their rooms jerking it 24/7. I told her to relax and they would get over it.
I then told her that I was so jealous of the little bastards because I didn't have a magical porn viewing tablet when I was a kid. I was like a lot of you guys and did whatever I could to find a few cast off pics from magazines older kids had bought. I still don't think she believes me.
They didn't get over it, did they....
They're Orgasm Addicts.
Yeah, the wife-unit freaked out when The Boy got busted for porn on his PC and unbelievably, on her PC. Dumb ass.
She wants to check his phone all the time and I've told her that I would be disappointed if he wasn't jacking it to his phone.
She doesn't understand.
Hiding all them magazines under the mattress made it hard to sleep around the lump.
Anyone who doubts this has never watched porn and/or never had a sex partner. Every normal person has had plenty of instances when they've watched porn and decided that yes, throwing it to the old lady/old man would be nice, thank you very much.
Where's that quote someone posted the other day about thrusting loins and male dominance?
We do not need to be reminded about your Nick Gillespie fantasies.
*snorts, chokes, clears airway and laughs maniacally*
*snorts, chokes, clears airway and laughs maniacally*
Nick would have to be 6 inches taller, 35 pounds heavier, and less "jackety" before KK would be interested.
See? Someone's been paying attention.
And about 6" less hair, too.
Tony commented something about sex in the back set of a Ford if memory serves.
Tony thinks you can get pregnant by being hit by a bus, so I wouldn't trust any thing he says about sex.
The "hit by a bus" thing might just be gay lingo for getting fucked. Who knows with that guy.
Wait, there is no way Tony said that.
Actually, he did. Because he really is that stupid.
What was the context? Was it like 'if two people get hit with a bus and one is a man and one is a woman, maybe his semen will get inside her?'
I can't understand how he would ever make that statement.
It was in the context of health insurance
Yeah, no he didn't. That was a joke.
It's a popular cultural trope these days that watching porn is making men, especially young men, sexually dysfunctional.
These days? This shit has been being touted by prudes and anti-porn losers since the 70s. This is nothing new.
FIFY
Corn Flakes were invented in the 1890s by Seventh Day Adventists who believed the blandness would lower passions and prevent people from masturbating.
Yeah, but then Kellogg made Frosted Flakes, and they're GREAAAAATTTTT!
+1 Tony The Fapping Tiger?
It didn't work.
*goes back to bowl of corn flakes*
It worked for me!
Just reading that paragraph sent shivers down my spine and elsewhere. Parts of my body began to withdraw like a turtle into his shell!
I'll be lucky if it returns to responsiveness within the next two days.
Porn might be and aphrodisiac but, that detailed description of genital mutilation might have made me impotent.
Gotta check out now, head home and see what's on the internet porn websites.
Graham crackers have a similar origin.
Drunk History did a great segment on the Kelloggs, played by Luke & Owen Wilson.
Internet porn. What a time to be alive.
I've been fapping to various porn over the the last 35+ years. Penthouse Forum had me reading above my grade level, until I hit grade 5....
I find no matter what level of multi screen compilation overload super hardcore depravity I have jerked to I still can't wait to fuck my wife.
I
+1 are you done yet
Penthouse Forum lost me when a chick got fucked by an icicle and and actually orgasmed. I'm all for fantasy, but...
How do you "get fucked" by an icicle? Does it chase you around until you give in to its charm?
Well, see, there was this man and woman and they were trapped in an ice cave by an avalanche...
Since you're not SugarFree, go on...
Imma gonna pass out from laughing thanks to this thread...
Since I'm a chick...
The man removed all his clothes to make a comfy and warm bed for the woman, then rubbed her feet, performed cunnilingus without reciprocation, used his pickaxe to find a 20 carat diamond, declared his undying love, then fell asleep spooning. The end.
Without reciprocation.
So the story IS true.
A-.
E. L. James would've at least had the decency to have the guy use his dick to mine for the diamond.
LOL...apriori knowledge of no recip? I've gone down with high hopes before, only to be cruelly dashed, then put up with spooning just in case: maybe next time.
You're either doing it wrong, or doing it with the wrong chicks -- if I get to licking a woman's pussy, she's going to let me fuck her.
recip blow job was what I meant...of course you get open access to PIV.
Last year during the great Atlanta Ice Storm I went out on my porch and saw a strange looking icicle. It was about 3" wide and tapered to about and inch and a half. It was round at the bottom instead of sharp and the best way I could describe the middle would be "ribbed". So naturally I broke it off and chased my wife around the house with it.
Nofap is a profoundly sad group of losers. I encourage everyone to visit and laugh at them. Poor morons.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So Nofap is basically internet AA for idiots who think they're "addicted" to porn?!?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is a long way from thinking about baseball.
Which, ironically, I only think about when I'm fucking.
Don't knock visualization therapy. I managed to alleviate my financial stress by visualizing my money problems as a repulsive, oliy-haired, hook-nosed creature.
I'd go the exact opposite of these guys and say the best thing about internet pr0n is that it demonstrates to most people that no matter how kinky they are, they are not alone.
In my opinion, it is a great thing to let people know that those dirty thoughts they are constantly thinking doesn't make them a deviant, but just a normal person who happens to get turned on by the same things that a shit ton of other people are into.
In the pre-internet pr0n days, if you were into midget porn, you had to think that you were pretty much a single perv that would be shunned by everyone else. Now, there is a whole category on youporn for you to get your jollies.
How these losers can't figure out that they aren't wrong for wanting to jerk it to lactation videos is beyond me.
I have no idea what the problem is with the "no fap" people and I don't care so I won't find out.
I agree that if you have a kink (and it isn't for raping 5 year olds or something) you should embrace it and not be ashamed of yourself. But I think that some people do really have a problem with addiction or obsession with porn. If it is actually disruptive to your life, then you probably should worry about it. If you jack off to weird porn 8 times a day, but still have normal relationships with people, then you are fine, I'd say.
Warty is by definition then, fine??
Birds of a feather.....................
I'm sure some people do have what can be described as an addiction to porn. And most of those people would come off as creepy losers with or without their stupid reddit group.
So ummm that sounds like a few fanfictions I've read. Maybe its a guy vs girl sexuality thing, but that reads like a standard power sexual fantasy. Not exactly the best thing if your trying to convince yourself out of the mood.
" Researchers from UCLA and Montreal's Concordia University collected data from 280 (mostly young) men on the average number of hours per week they spent watching pornography (answers ranged from zero..."
Liars!
Who needs hours when it only takes a few minutes a whack?
I know a small number of men who have no interest in pornography. I know at least one of them is being honest because his wife does like porn.
I have no negative feelings toward a dude that isn't interested in viewing naked women, but I'd probably consider his libido quite low or his morals quite on the dotted line- both fine by me, in fact. Just don't judge my alternative lifestyle and I'll happily not judge your monogamy or strict sexual tastes.
Morals? Nah. He's on the down low.
"Today's users can force [their] release by watching porn in multiple windows, searching endlessly, fast-forwarding to the bits they find hottest, switching to live sex chat, viewing constant novelty, firing up their mirror neurons with video action and cam-2-cam, or escalating to extreme genres and anxiety-producing material. It's all free, easy to access, available within seconds, 24 hours a day, seven days a week."
Who says things haven't gotten better?
http://fightthenewdrug.org/#sthash.Xsabf9pD.dpbs
^ The funniest anti-porn webpage there is.
Some samples:
"So it's not super surprising that companies selling these products have resorted to using almost-naked women in sexual positions to get men's attention. And if you've been on your phone, computer, or watching TV lately, each company seems to be trying to top itself with every new magazine cover and commercial.
Don't get us wrong. We know that advertisers have been using sex to sell just about everything forever, and that typically doesn't fall under the category of the porn and sexual exploitation that our Fight is all about.
But everything starts somewhere right? It's a proven fact that porn is an escalating addiction. And our generation is the first one where people can unexpectedly (and casually) see an almost-naked woman just by simply turning on the TV or scrolling on their phones."
Almost. Naked.
Laughing my ass off:
"To give you an idea of how damaging these images are, a study by Princeton psychologists showed a group of men pictures of male and females, some barely clothed and some not. During the study, the psychologists monitored their medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC), which is involved in recognizing human faces and distinguishing one person from another. For the most part, the mPFC was activated with each picture. However, when the men viewed the pictures of sexually dressed women, it was not activated. Basically, the automatic reaction in the men's brains suggests that they didn't perceive the women as fully human. Just as a body."
By this logic, don't you not view a woman as 'fully human' literally every time you have sex? Man, some of those Mormon men with 12 kids sure have spent a lot of time viewing their wives as 'just a body!'
Women are fully human?!? Since when?!?
They don't just exist to provide you with "fabric" for your woman suit, Epi.
Well I need parts for my "live doll" too!
More from that site: Biggest idiot in history stops eating and becomes paranoid and completely delusional because she thinks her husband is cheating.
"Every time I saw him, I pounced. He was confused at first, but went along with it like a child reluctant to turn away free ice cream. After the first few days, other than the occasional, 'What's gotten into you?' he didn't say much about the change. The nights he slept at home I did everything in my power, everything that internet porn had showed me, to rock his world. I was a machine. My anger and resolve fueled every motion. When I awoke to the glow of his phone in the middle of the night, the familiar sounds of someone texting a home wrecker in secret, I jumped into porn star mode again. I surprised him at lunch, porn star mode while pulled into the crappy car wash. When he remarked why the dishes hadn't been done for a week, porn star mode right in front of the empty dishwasher. I performed more times in a month than I had in the entirety of our three year marriage. There were positions I should not have attempted given my lack of flexibility and tendency to get vertigo. I lost a lot of sleep in between my daytime job, my new job in the bedroom, and the baby. It was exhausting and completely unenjoyable for me, but I was winning."
Sounds like she tried to cram for the test and it didn't work. Maybe she should have studied harder beforehand.
I performed more times in a month than I had in the entirety of our three year marriage.
Gee, I wonder why he was cheating...
Did anyone else notice that the piece they copied and pasted from HuffPo didn't actually claim their marriage problems were because of porn?
She lays out pretty clearly what she thought (apparently incorrectly) the problem was:
She goes (supposedly) porn-style because she thinks she's a boring sex partner, not because her husband is looking at porn (which is only discussed in passing).
I'm applying for a grant. I'll simply mic myself and a few of my buddies up. Then we will walk around the U of MN campus on a nice spring day.
I'm sure the results will be as follows:
Normal conversation between myself and buddies.
[attractive gal in short shorts walks by]
Buddies and I stop talking as our brains divert all brain cells to optical processing
[attractive gal is gone]
Normal conversation resumes.
All I have to do is paper up the results with some bull shit about medial prefrontal cortex shit and I'm home free.
Study has been done...sort of. Two fake news anchors. One a hot female, the other a hot male, groups of men watching both separately, groups of women watching both separately. The men could not remember the content delivered by the hot female news caster but could recall the content delivered by the male. Women had pretty good recall for both cases.
Basically, the automatic reaction in the men's brains suggests that they didn't perceive the women as fully human. Just as a body.
Next up, a complex study to figure out if the women who post nearly naked selfies with their heads cropped out respond to being objectified on the internet and what that means for women everywhere.
It's a proven fact that porn is an escalating addiction.
What a load of unmitigated horseshit.
I think my first experience with internet porn happened when I was in 7th grade. I was doing a project on aging for a health and human development class and I Googled image searched 'mature couple' to find a picture of an aged couple to use. My parents did not know how to set up filters and so a lot of homemade porn turned up.
My first experience was googling "Goatse"... masturbated 48 hours till my fingers bled...
Goatse.cx made my brain bleed for weeks.
I'm more of a tubgirl guy myself. Hachi machi!
Tubgirl! Thanks for reminding me. Gotta pull that from some old files.
Frickin' kids. Until you've experienced the delicate thrill of expectation while you read through alt.binaries.pictures.erotica, download 6 articles, strip the headers in emacs, concatenate and run through uudecode, you just haven't been living.
It's all easynews nowadays.
Don't forget you also had to download a special program to view the gif file you had created, because browsers hadn't been invented yet.
Heh. The Computer Phone Book
If you weren't downloading your porn from a BBS at 300 baud you were doing it wrong.
I remember my first. I searched online for Yoshimura motorcycle parts and ended up with Mr. Yoshimura porn.
I remember my first Epson. Punched up "cherry pie" for recipe for my wife. Holy shit the bed! Hit the mother load.
I remember my first internet porn accident. I remember it well.
I was looking for a recipe site I'd seen before. I wanted to try one of the pie variations - caramel apple, iirc. The website's name was Granny Smith's Recipes, or somesuch. My search terms were "granny" and "pie".
BWAH!
Good times.
Some of us who let everyone younger than 31 down by allowing p0rn0grAphy broadcasting grew up and went to college before GOOG existed.
Look, if you want to get your spouse in the mood...no, I don't want to waste the time it would take to find a really good punchline.
Who says the other partner has to be in the mood? Just get the 'yes' and enjoy the corpse. Just providing a quote for radical wind there.
If you spank it to porn so much that you can't get it up when it's time to do the real thing, then yeah I could see how that could affect a relationship.
Elizabeth, by the way, you have been crushing it lately with your articles. They've created some really fun threads. Thanks for that.
It's a trick, Lizzie! Run!
Elizabeth is a special gift to reason or more specifically from reason to the Hampersand.
She almost makes one forget about....
DON'T TALK ABOUT ....
Do not!
Don't you DARE.
Hitler?
We must keep our hurt locked inside. Like inside some kind of... hurt locker. Oh I just got that.
So are balls jizz lockers?
Porn movie title!!
Princess Key and the Jizz Lockers
...Kerry Howley.
What the fuck are you doing, you idiot??? Don't praise, neg! You idiot! Haven't you learned anything from Roosh V???
Hey man, Roosh V. would never slum it with an American girl. He only dates 10/10 Polish models who cook and clean for him while he plays Madden and brags online about how fucking Alpha he is.
EVERYBODY JUST BE COOL DAMN IT.
Is this actually a thing a large number of people like or just scare-mongering? I grand total of one time I happened across a compilation video that had four different scenes playing at once, and I found it extremely jarring despite liking the performer.
I do fast-forward a lot though.
It does sound stupid.
ENB is quickly becoming my favorite Reason contributor. Please excuse me while I go fap into oblivion.
So ENB is a fap trigger? Oh, boy...
frigger warning!
*thunderous applause*
* blushes, scuffs feet, thanks 2nd grade teacher *
Oh, very good, sir.
Trigger warning just got moved into 2.0 territory. Where do we go now from here?
We may need to workshop it a bit. The 18-24 demographic is convinced that it's a racial slur.
So friggering is the triggering of faps. We know this because you behaved inappropriately 😉 toward one of our Libertarian goddesses in a Reason thread, I stepped in and pondered, and Pope Jimbo ultimately decreed that indeed this was something that warranted his imagineering of letters.
I think all demos would be comfortable deeming 'friggering' as 'being triggered to fap due to visual sexual stimulation.' And this will make feminism hate Libertarians even more which is like icing on the terminology.
Remember I'm infallible!
This entire thread fills me with sexual glee.
Trigger For Happiness
I will never understand why run-of-the-mill porn is hated by feminists and anti-porn types. There is practically nothing in run-of-the-mill porn that the average couple isn't already doing or getting off to. And if body image is an issue for these blockheads there is an entire subsection filled with chubbies and matures which completely unravels their 'perfect' body image fixation.
One thing I've noticed is that both anti-sex feminists and anti-sex Christian conservatives assume completely without evidence that watching 'violent porn' will make you violent and then exaggerate the percentage of porn that is violent.
Every time you read an anti-porn article, they seem to assume that 99% of men are watching rape-porn with a large amount of scat, punching, and abusive language.
Personally, I like when the girl seems to be enjoying herself and imagine I'm in the majority in that regard. And anyway, there's no evidence that getting turned on by violent porn means you are violent, anymore than a woman who has rape fantasies actually wants to be raped.
Violent sex is a very subjective terminology. An anti-porn feminist would consider consensual anal sex between a husband and a wife a violent act.
Violence in porn has to be determined by sound and very worldly minds. Brains exhibiting simplistic sexual mores brought on by religious faith or certain feminist philosophies should be ignored as forms of sexual validation.
If Literotica and Reddit have taught me anything, it's that women vastly outnumber men in the consumption and production of rape-porn.
Well duh, they have actual legitimate studies done. About fifty percent of women have rape fantasies. It is literally the most common sexual fantasy among women.
And the very worst contain argyle socks.
I think a lot of porn-hate is motivated by jealousy. They feel like it's mental adultery. Coveting another man's wife and all of that.
Jealousy is a fucking insidious emotion.
Yes but, it is undeniably powerful. Sometimes, enough to kill for.
Feminists hate porn because it gives men satisfaction. Anything that makes any man happy is per se bad because men are per se bad, hence their caterwauling about porn, PIV, "street harrassment" (speaking to a woman in public without her permission), and objectification (ironic considering women openly objectify men by the "666 Requirement": At least 6 feet tall, at least a 6 inch penis, and at least a 6 figure income). What's funny about the "body image" argument against porn is that most pornstars, absent their warpaint sex makeup, and pretty average and some not even that (Riley Reid, cute girl, terrible acne).
The anti-porn so-cons want women to get off of Lex Steele's cock and back into the church and the kitchen, which is their natural habitat.
"Feminists hate porn because it gives men satisfaction."
Oh, I don't know about that. Doesn't sound terribly accurate. Are you sure you've explored this theory sufficiently?
While a few feminists might feel exactly this*, I suspect the objection made most often by women is that their stimulation in porn is unimportant. This does appear to be valid, BUT women are biologically not as visual as men. The female equivalent appears to be print media - erotic stories. You should see the porn stories my wife downloads to her phone. She starts reading in bed, and I know it's going to be a good night, tater.
And then there's Supernatural slash incest.*
*No matter how illogical or nonsensical the idea, there's some damned idiot out there who will believe it wholeheartedly.
Supernatural slash incest is the worst you got? You do notice the trends in possession non-con with the angel in the mix stories right? I mean seriously, that shows fanfiction is the definition of rule 64. If you can imagine someone has spent years of their life writing it out in loving detail for hordes of female fans.
I could expose you to thinks for which there isn't enough brain bleach in the world. There are some things man was not meant to know.
Uh, nothing worth watching is "free" - where do they keep getting this idea?
Yeah. Recent high-quality porn is available for free via piracy, but the VPN or Usenet access isn't free. You can get by on the "tube sites" but they kind of suck.
I have no idea where they got the idea that "live sex chat" and "cam-2-cam" are free. Unless you find a unicorn on Omegle, that shit is mega-expensive.
(Between that and what I quoted above, it's obvious the person writing that piece has little actual experience with porn.)
I'll only speak for myself, but I've pretty much given up on porn. Not because I'm desensitized to sex; rather, I'm desensitized to the porn itself. It gets boring quick.
Yup. Porn is largely boring. But then again pleasure has always been more rewarding when sandwiched between stories. The mind is fucking's worst enemy and best aphrodisiac.
When I was 18, it was Nirvana. Now, it's "Hey look, another person moaning for money." I get much more turned on by a night out away from the kids and sharing a clean hotel room with the wife.
And I really don't understand the incest fetish stuff.
And I really don't understand the incest fetish stuff.
You haven't seen my sister, Scruffy...
Me neither (though I don't have a sister, so that's 75% of incest porn out).
That being said, while I'm not into it, if the girl is hot, I'll watch it. The same goes for rape fantasy porn -- not my cup of tea, but now and then a pornstar I like does a scene.
Hell, if a hamster is hot someone out there is imagining boning it. Being hot is a nice touch.
I can confirm this hypothesis.
/really a hamster
Ah, the interweb provides.
99.999/100 porn movies are this and total garbage but your desire to find a good porn means sifting through hundreds of one-size fits all forgettable movies to find a real gem.
Mostly the internet has made it very easy to find pictures and videos of epically skanky and unattractive women. I guess that is a good thing to some. I, however, am not seeing it.
I did this at Foot Locker yesterday over goddamn shoes. I literally stared at myself in the mirror and wondered what the fuck was so special about my feet that I needed to take THIS fucking long to buy a fucking pair of sneakers. Sheesh. For real. Hundreds of forgettable shoes and I walk out with a pair of forgettable shoes I actually liked. I think porn relates to our larger human experience.
IOW "bullshit."
"Extrapolated from common knowledge."
perpetuated by data-poor literature.
Translation: Feminist mythologizing.
This makes for some good reading in the dentists office.
Bryan Cranston?
I was in fact in the dentist's office. I hardly noticed the wait.
THAT was the best thread in months!
Are you feeling a warm, glowing sense of release? A calmness and positivity?
Yes, as matter of fact I am.
People are being friggered I tell you.
Of course there was a release.
At the dentist's office? Holy shit, you're a risky boy.
I spend many hours looking at derp. It is my porn.
Fun fact: Badon Powell, founder of the Boy Scouts was also an anti-masturbation advocate. He believed boys should take long hikes daily to suppress their sex drives, a practice he referred to as "rovering". He did not get married until he was 55 and usually slept apart from his wife. His main hobby was rovering with strapping, fit teenage boys.
Could it be that the founder of the Boy Scouts was gay? Naaaaah....
Yep, definitely not gay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.....and_writer
Once in a while I will be looking at some random comment thread on some news story and see some anti-masturbation commenters. It is like seeing a buffalo in the wild or something. Yeah, there used to be lots of them but I thought they hunted them to extinction. It will be usually be in a place you would not expect it, like some article on infidelity and the comment will go something like "most men who cheat (or do whatever the subject of the article is) are chronic masturbaters unable to form genuine human relationships" or something to that effect.
And if you really want to read some quality DERP regarding the subject of porn, google Kathryn Jean Lopez sometime. Every couple of years NRO will forget and leave her unsupervised access to the server and she will go on a porn bender. The results are some pretty epic DERP.
She had a crush on Mitt Romney:
"The looks. The hair. And then the family. He adores his wife as she does him. Who has it that good?"
On Porn:
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....jean-lopez
She has written many others.
The smoking porn analogy is hysterical. I mean the fact that porn can be sent to you privately and electronically is not any kind of significant difference between the two products. Nope., we could ban porn just like we could ban tobacco if we weren't just a bunch of chronic masterbators or something.
"I spend many hours looking at derp."
Have you experienced a desire to look at more and more hardcore derp? Do you peruse several online derp sources simultaneously? Has your stimulation from real life derp diminished?
Perhaps an intervention is in order.
Yes, Yes, and No. If anything, online derp helps me enjoy real life derp more!
My husband and I joke about how much more perverted my taste in porn is than his. In fact, I've taken to watching hentai and reading sex comics because they just have so much more potential for weirdness and depravity. It's gotten to the point where I'm disappointed if there are no chicks-with-dicks, or two dicks, as the case may be.
Having said that, if I actually want to rub one out pretty quick, I turn to massage porn, which is pretty vanilla in the scheme of things.
And my sex life is great. Hubby and I do the deed at least once a day.
Fascinating. But what are your thoughts on yaoi?
I know a woman who is into that very thing, oddly.
Women as a group consume more gay porn than any other genre. But, I don't. I can do bisexual porn every so often (which we all know only applies to the men, as all women in porn are "bisexual"), but I need at least one "woman" in the picture to identify with, even if she's an absurd Japanese stereotype.
Absurd Japanese stereotypes can be delightful!
Tentacle penis monster is what you crave.
It's what we all crave. This explains Epi's popularity. He fulfills the psychological need for a tentacular penis monster.
It's what we all crave. This explains Epi's popularity. He fulfills the psychological need for a tentacular penis monster.
SQUIRREL!
I'm researching the required genetic modifications to implant the "Hand of God" about 2-3 inches above my shaft. The exact design of the HoG has not been finalized though. It is obviously a muscular appendage with a sucker on the end or maybe a little tiny hand with a tongue in the palm. The length of the HoG would have to account for stroke length. So lots of design options still in play.
I may be the one straight guy in the world who doesn't like hardcore porn. It is not that I am prude. I like naked women enough. It is just the lesbian stuff is okay but gets old and the dicks ruin the regular stuff. So much of porn is a close up of some woman sucking some guy's cock. There is so much of that it makes me wonder exactly which party the guys watching those are living vicariously through, the guy or the girl? It just doesn't do anything for me.
Broaden you tastes. Watch strictly amateur smut, preferably hidden cam, and delight at the squeaky beds, barking dogs, the occasional vaginal fart.
That only supports the thesis that porn is male dominated. Produced by males for males. By and large, women aren't interested.
Well, I've known a few who are.
Truthfully, in my own life, when my wife and I first got together, I had a couple of porn magazines and I distinctly remember us both looking at them and talking about the pictures which led to discovering things about each other.
Then, they were tossed aside and never thought of again.
A few years later, when we first got Showtime on satellite, there were these soft core adult movies, most of them pretty corny, that came on. And, sometimes my wife and I watched them and more than once, it led to her jumping my bones. Which was fine with me.
Then, a few more years down the road, she notices that those old magazines are sitting on the floor in my closet and blasts me for having them. We end up in this really surreal argument where she denies ever having looked at such things and telling me they are for perverts. I just stand there flabbergasted and wondering if I've entered a parallel universe or something.
Now, if none of this makes any sense to you, you aren't married. Or, if you are, you haven't been for very long. A lifetime of marriage can be very "Alice in Wonderland" like, where up is down and down is up. It's just the nature of the beast.
(Que Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit and fade out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR8LFNUr3vw
I'd like to know how the fruiting pod of a rare orchid, indigenous to only three locations in the world, has become synonymous with "plain, boring, pedestrian."
I know that's really weird. I mean strawberry is totally more pedestrian than vanilla.
Because chocolate is a tough act to follow.
Once you go dark, you'll never crave bark?
Your pun fu is strong, grasshopper.
I've often wondered about that too. I think it is because it is such a common flavor in sweets that it is sort of the normal basic taste of things. And vanilla ice cream is usually thought of as the sort of base, plain flavor. And once people figured out synthetic vanillin, it was also cheap and plentiful.
And vanilla ice cream is usually thought of as the sort of base, plain flavor.
I'd always assumed it was this. Plain old vanilla being the opposite of dowsed in rum, flaming, and surrounded by bananas.
As an analogy for porn, that description works quite well.
And the conversation has moved full circle.
A few cautious objections to the study parameters:
Per the study, Which is more novel?
A man that does not view porn watching a vanilla porn film expected to report how aroused he became, or a man who watches porn viewing a vanilla porn film expected to report on how aroused he was by the film? I'm not sure one is more novel than the other.
Vanilla porn may also have been arousing as it may actually have had a plot or some kind including sexual tension, etc, whereas hardcore is less so.
Further, many above commenters testify that they have moved on from Playboy to hardcore, etc. The old stuff doesn't do it for them anymore except for nostalgia for the old once-novelty. Playboy was a gateway, they are saying. Sounds a bit like an addiction to me.
Playboy is a gateway to Hustler and Hustler was a gateway, ultimately, on the time continuum to online porn and online porn no matter how hardcore can get boring... just like the normal fucking of actual human beings. Life just requires imagination often to make all sorts of activities yet more interesting. Addiction is a side issue for a few. Don't read more into this because you just want to.
Sexuality is highly diversified and variant. I always tell people that I know homosexuality is in the genes simply because it's *not* in *my* particular genes.
What I like is hourglass shaped women, with a few extra pounds, on the softer side. My son likes the lean and toned. So we're different.
Some men are highly sexual and have no problem getting it up twice a day. As BIll Lear is to have said "I like my women built for speed, not comfort." Some women too. And for many of us, once a week or even a month will suffice. For some, vanilla, for others, perhaps different stimulation is required.
So it's complicated. I suspect that for some men, porn is a poor choice and will affect their relationships, for others, it could affect their partner's relationships to them. So it depends. These things are platykurtic with many factors.
So a conclusion that porn influences or not is highly individual, there is no problem to solve, and government interference is the last thing we need.
I know what kurtosis is but I've never heard the term platykurtic. So I did learn something.
Yes, I mostly agree except the government must soon begin enforcing U.S. laws making transmission of p0rn0grAphy to the anonymous and organized crime. Preventing p0rn0grAphy from being broadcast by radio is common today is NOT interference in the least.
"Today's users can force [their] release by watching porn in multiple windows, searching endlessly, fast-forwarding to the bits they find hottest, switching to live sex chat, viewing constant novelty, firing up their mirror neurons with video action and cam-2-cam, or escalating to extreme genres and anxiety-producing material. It's all free, easy to access, available within seconds, 24 hours a day, seven days a week."
Have we died and gone too heaven? take that terrorists!!!
Don't forget what the Navy Seals found in Bin Laden's bedroom. Good Muslim that he was. 😉
Nature or nurture?
Hey,
All you commenters and "Reason" fluffer-writers who are old enough to remember being a teenager when the "web" 0f p0rn0grAphy did n0t exist or the twenty-three to thirty-nine readers over 31.
We always knew "addictions" to p0rn0grAphy by the most sexual of humans was guaranteed and was enjoyed. P0rn0grAphy was a benefit because hyper-sexual people could then use fantasies and be satiated instead of filled with lust. We also always knew p0rn0grAphy made us better sexual performers with most any partner and showed many vanilla partners of the vanilla sexuals reading this the best sexual experience they will ever have. We knew there never was the slightest danger of p0rn0grAphy causing ED and know ED is too easy to compensate for to matter if ED occurs.
We hyper-sexuals need to prepare for the end of anonymous viewing of p0rn0grAphy because this will soon end. The largest and most profitable of p0rn0grAphy websites will soon need to be redesigned because display of NAKED genitalia or developing female breasts to the anonymous public will be prosecuted as the crime this has always been. The first few challengers of this organized crime will die in prison. It will again become profitable to pander p0rn0grAphy very carefully. Taking off your clothes and performing p0rn0grAphy will again be profitable and a lure to get those clothes off of many of your otherwise vanilla partners.
Playboy and Hustler and others "skin mags" will again be profitable.
As a woman, what I HATE about porn in video form is that the porn actresses are always moaning their heads off while having sex in positions and rhythms that won't get 90% of women off! It means men have a totally wrong idea of how to show a girl a good time, and makes us girls have to re-educate guys to make the guys worth fucking!
I think any of us men over the age of 25 get this. It's pure fantasy and we know that.
And hey, a little education never hurt anyone. Plus, every girl (and guy) is different. 🙂
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We should accept the term "porn" nowadays because we are in 2015 and the modern world is evolving around sex. You can see it on tv, social networks, personal pictures, public ads. Nothing in this world is made without something sexy in it. I read an article on https://www.fapshows.com/blog/ that really dismantle 3 porn myths we all grown with. We need to see all things in a modern perspective and try to understand them.
My mistake.. The blog where i read that article is https://www.fapshows.com/blog and the article is named "3 Myths About Pornography".
I know. I was just quoting one of the greatest lines in cinema history.
I got it. These jerks probably only ever saw that movie on TBS with that quote edited out.
Damn copyright. This is the best I could do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up8siWU92yI
If you're watching it on TBS, you're pretty much missing the whole movie.
I just realized the other day that A&E edits out "bitch" and "ass". Like, seriously?
What a bunch of bitchasses.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
People pay money for this in San Francisco.
Debra Jo Fondren
Mrs. Jimmy Conners for me.
She had nice hair.
Right on. You only learn how to manage it.
Like high functioning alcoholics.