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Norway's Muslims Organize to Protect Jews

Ring around the synagogue

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And now for something completely different: A group of Muslims in Norway is organizing a protective ring around Oslo's synagogue following Sabbath services this weekend. The effort is a reaction to the shootings in Copenhagen, according to Hajrad Arshad, 17, one of the seven organizers of the "Fredens Ring" (Friendship Ring) (Ring of Peace).

"We think that after the terrorist attacks in Copenhagen, it is the perfect time for us Muslims to distance ourselves from the harassment of Jews that is happening," Arshad told NRK, Norway's public service broadcaster. About a thousand people have signed up on the group's Facebook page, including well-wishers from around the world.

The only synagogue in Oslo—there are only two in the whole of Norway—was attacked by gunfire in 2006, and is now under constant surveillance and behind barriers anyway, so any "protective ring" would be largely symbolic. (The man charged in the 2006 attack, one Arfan Bhatti, was found guilty only of vandalism. He left the country after serving time, but seems to have returned to Norway in January. There's a page about Bhatti in a sort of English here.)

A spokesman for the Jewish Community in Oslo welcomed the Fredens Ring effort, but noted that its cooperation was contingent on there being at least 30 people in the ring. If too few people show up, he said, it may be "counterproductive."

Norway's Jewish community is very small, with fewer than 1,000 members, and is probably shrinking further. In modern times, Jews (and Jesuits, too) were prohibited from living in the country until 1851, and the country's first-ever synagogue was built only in 1892. Under the Quisling regime in World War II, Norway's Jews were nearly wiped out; those not rounded up to be killed fled to Sweden. The country's Muslim community, on the other hand, has grown relatively large in recent years, with some estimating its size at 200,000; many of the early immigrants came from Pakistan in the 1960s, with Middle Easterners and Somalis arriving more recently. A report on Norwegian TV in 2010 claimed that anti-Semitic views were widespread in the community, especially among students. In 2009, demonstrations in Oslo in which Muslims and ethnic Norwegians called for Jews to be killed shook the local Jewish community, with one woman likening it to a "pogrom."

The "Fredens Ring" effort is thus not only a gesture toward Oslo's Jewish community, but perhaps also a message intended for some fellow Norwegian Muslims. "Islam is about protecting our brothers and sisters, regardless of which religion they belong to," it says on the Facebook page (according to a translation here). "Islam is about rising above hate and never sinking to the same level as the haters. Islam is about defending each other."

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  1. Made my day. Thanks, Fredens!

    1. Me too, great to read this.

  2. Nice to see, hopefully no nutjob uses it as a way of getting close.

  3. Sad and inspiring.

  4. Nice to read a good story on occassion.

  5. More power to these guys.

    Maybe it’s just me, but I’m really starting to get the impression that non-batshit-crazy Muslims seem to be waking up and making themselves heard. Good. The more that do so means the more that do so.

    1. I’m thinking some smart Muslims are seeing what is happening to Jews in Europe right now, and then are realizing the same could happen to Muslims.

      Also, might be realizing that when Europe wants to get rid of a religion or ethnic group, they go all out. Another Holocaust directed at Muslims isn’t so far fetched.

    2. I don’t know about that, Bill. The polling data shows that each successive generation of Muslims is more fundamentalist and murdery than the last. You’d think it would go the other way, but the under 30 Muslims tend to be okay with some fucked up shit their parents and grandparents won’t even condone.

  6. That’s cool, random Norwegian Muslims. Keep it up. Reminds me of folks like Tarek Fatah and Irshad Manji (who’s ‘The Trouble With Islam Today’ is a pretty good book on ‘reforming Islam’, admittedly she does spend a massive amount of it just defending Israel’s right to exist).

  7. ‘stop it, I’m getting misty’

    1. guess I’m gonna have to “+1 Payback” myself

  8. I can’t officially comment until I’ve heard Richard Dawkins’ thoughts on the matter.

    *locks car doors at nearest athiest*

    /microagression

    1. Richard Dawkins isn’t the emperor of all atheists people!

      1. +1 Nagger

  9. A report on Norwegian TV in 2010 claimed that anti-Semitic views were widespread in the community, especially among students.

    So they pick it up in college, just like in the US. Interesting, that.

    1. Really? As a jew this is news to me

    2. Just the lazy students, like liberal arts majors. Notice the students that either take more classes to get done sooner to reduce their tuition costs or have part-time jobs don’t waste their time with stupidity-based protests.

  10. Norway’s Muslims Organize to Protect Jews

    Of course – they’re protecting their Dhimma.

    Zing! Pow!

    1. The jizz tax ain’t gonna collect itself.

  11. Norway’s Muslims Organize to Protect Jews

    Norway’s other Muslims organize to kill Jews, or at the very least, sit back and hope it happens. We’ll call it a wash. Islamic communities needn’t get a pat on the back for a tiny fraction of them barely doing anything.

    1. So when a tiny fraction of Muslims kill people they all deserve condemnation, and when a tiny fraction organize to do more than you’ve ever done in your life on this matter, it means nothing?

      1. So when a tiny fraction of Muslims kill people they all deserve condemnation, and when a tiny fraction organize to do more than you’ve ever done in your life on this matter, it means nothing?

        The tiny fraction in either case are not the main problem or the solution. There’s a tiny amount of assholes in any given population. It’s the large amount of supporters those assholes receive that is the problem to address.

        Large minorities, pluralities and majorities of Muslims in Middle Eastern and Western countries support Islamist crimes of one kind or another. There can be no doubt of that unless you’ve already forgotten the shellacking you’ve gotten on this issue numerous times. If your memory is really that short, I’d be happy to repost some polling data that you’ll forget just in time to make another whitewashing argument for Islam.

        1. Please link to the last time I got “shellacked” on this issue. If I recall correctly, you posted data that had nothing to do with the point being argued.

          1. I don’t care if you’re in denial. I said I have links to some polling data if you care for it. Are you denying that “Large minorities, pluralities and majorities of Muslims” support Islamism and terrorism?

            1. Depends on where you’re talking about, what exactly constitutes “Islamism” and a “large minority” but sure (though if you add enough weasel words with unclear definitions you could make a lot of groups look bad). I’ve never denied there being no issues in the global Muslim community when it comes to these things. Only in the minds of fanatics is anything short of “MUSLIMS ARE EEVIIIIILLLLLLLLLL!” terrorism-denial.

              1. Ignore the double negative BTW

              2. It’s not my fault your unfamiliar with the terms but I’ll hold your hand apparently.

                what exactly constitutes “Islamism”

                Isamic religious precepts applied politically and legally.

                and a “large minority”

                Significant fractions like fifths, thirds and halves or more. There are no weasel words or unreasonable standards here, just shit you’re unfamiliar with.

                1. “Isamic religious precepts applied politically and legally.”

                  Yeah, in most places. However, this doesn’t really tell us that much, because what exactly constitutes “Islamic religious precepts” varies from place to place and person to person.

                  “Significant fractions like fifths, thirds and halves or more.”

                  Again, depending on what exact issue you’re talking about and where, then yeah. But using all those terms and then saying “Islamism or terrorism” is a really poor way of framing an argument. There’s a pretty big difference between supporting the general concept of Islamic principles being applied to governance and supporting ISIS or al-Qaeda or mass slaughter of Jews by Norwegian Muslims specifically (lest we forget that this whole debate started over something very specific when you basically claimed that Norwegian Muslism who didn’t actively protect a synagogue support killing Jews).

                  1. Yeah, in most places. However, this doesn’t really tell us that much, because what exactly constitutes “Islamic religious precepts” varies from place to place and person to person.

                    And nonetheless in Egypt 89% of the people think you should be killed for apostasy. In Indonesia it contributes to a 59% approval rating for Osama Bin Laden. Don’t tell me that Islam isn’t the common thread, that’s patently absurd.

                    But using all those terms and then saying “Islamism or terrorism” is a really poor way of framing an argument.

                    I’ve been plenty discrete in my language. If you want statistical level discretion I’m happy to post that too. They abound.

                    here’s a pretty big difference between supporting the general concept of Islamic principles being applied to governance and supporting ISIS or al-Qaeda

                    al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden

                    World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law.

                    lest we forget that this whole debate started over something very specific when you basically claimed that Norwegian Muslism who didn’t actively protect a synagogue support killing Jews).

                    What now? I’ll need you to cite that.

                    1. “And nonetheless in Egypt 89% of the people think you should be killed for apostasy. In Indonesia it contributes to a 59% approval rating for Osama Bin Laden. Don’t tell me that Islam isn’t the common thread, that’s patently absurd.”

                      Obviously. As I said earlier, your fanaticism has blinded you so much that you accuse me of making arguments I’ve never made. However, evaluating those polls also shows very large discrepancies between Muslim countries, which indicates that being a Muslim does not inherently mean one will support (insert bad thing here) any more than the fact that wide majorities of Christians used to support barbaric policies meant that such support was inevitably going to endure forever. So yes, Islam clearly is the common thread, but at the same time it’s clear there’s other factors at play or we would expect the percentages to be very similar in all Muslim countries, which they are not.

                      Your first link didn’t go to a poll, I don’t see where that info is on the page.

                      Again, “Islamic law” is an extremely broad thing. Al-Qaeda’s perception of it is not necessarily the same as the average Muslim who supports it. Also, your own link acknowledges that only a tiny minority of Muslims support attacks on American civilians.

                      From your first comment in this thread:

                      “Norway’s other Muslims organize to kill Jews, or at the very least, sit back and hope it happens.”

                    2. Obviously. As I said earlier, your fanaticism has blinded you so much that you accuse me of making arguments I’ve never made.

                      My fanaticism? I guess that makes you an Islamophile by contrast. I disagree with Islam as a belief system, like I do with all religions as it happens. But I also believe that not all ideas are created equal, some are stupendously awful.

                      But if ad hominem really helps your case then use it I guess…

                      Muslim countries, which indicates that being a Muslim does not inherently mean one will support (insert bad thing here) any more than the fact that wide majorities of

                      Shit likes this right here is you implying that Islam is not the common denominator for the pervasiveness of these beliefs. It’s not national borders, it’s ideology.

                      Your first link didn’t go to a poll, I don’t see where that info is on the page.

                      Sorry some of my links I’ve misplaced in my doc file. I have a fresh one here about his approval ratings;
                      Pew Research reported by Forbes: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
                      41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007
                      56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003

                    3. Again, “Islamic law” is an extremely broad thing.

                      I think you would agree that it’s different from civil law and common law, no? Probably different than Chinese law and Russian law just a little tiny bit, yeah? Then it’s not so broad that you can’t criticize it.

                      Al-Qaeda’s perception of it is not necessarily the same as the average Muslim who supports it.

                      I’m glad you brought that up. I’ll specify some figures. World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law.(Egypt: 88%; Indonesia 76%; Pakistan 60%; Morocco 64%)

                    4. Also, your own link acknowledges that only a tiny minority of Muslims support attacks on American civilians.

                      World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
                      32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
                      41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
                      38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
                      83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
                      62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
                      42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
                      A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
                      (Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
                      About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.

                      Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. That leaves 43% who approve or refused to say. What is 43% of 1.6 billion? Is it a tiny insignificant number?

                    5. The Pew poll did not count “Muslims worldwide”. It counted Muslims in 5 countries for which Al-Qaeda had a direct military influence: Pakistan, Jordan, Tunisia, Turkey and Indonesia. Pakistan & Tunisia are literal war zones, and were when this poll was conducted as well. Your claim that this poll is representative of global Muslims views is misrepresentative, to put it charitably. These are countries where drone bombings and US sponsored assassinations are a fact of public life, yet you would claim that such policies are not as relevant to opinions about violence toward Americans as religious self-identification? Claiming parity between these Muslims and European Muslims requires evidence that does not exist in this study.

                      I just clicked on one of the polls you provided at random.

      2. The only reason ‘Muslims organizing to protect Jews’ is newsworthy is because it’s a ‘man bites dog’ type of story. That’s a noteworthy point to consider before we hail Muslims as bringers of solidarity and tolerance with their fellow man.

        1. Most stories that make the news do so because they’re not all that common. “Muslim man drops off his son at school and goes to work” doesn’t exactly make the headlines as much as terror attacks do, but that doesn’t mean it’s less common.

          1. Muslims rallying to protect Jews is how common, exactly?

            1. If you’re going to play semantics and limit things to this one specific sort of act of protecting a synagogue, then ok. There’s widespread Muslim condemnation of terrorism (as well as significant support from some Muslims, I’ve never denied that) when attacks happen. Just because you don’t see it on Jihadwatch doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

              1. There’s widespread Muslim condemnation of terrorism (as well as significant support from some Muslims, I’ve never denied that)

                If you were really not denying it, semantically or otherwise you might have instead written:

                There’s widespread Muslim condemnation of terrorism (as well as significant support from some Muslims, I’ve never denied that)

                Every argument you make, even and especially when on a point you can’t deny, you attempt to minimize it.

                It’s significant and widespread support from Muslims, from the adherents of Islamic ideology. But I understand it’s a game of semantics to prove whatever you’re trying to prove.

                1. You’re the one going through my posts to cross out the word “some” and trying to argue that it has some serious hidden meaning revealing my true motivations, and I’m the one who’s playing semantics?

                  1. You literally just accused me of playing semantic games under the guise of being conciliatory, of course I’m going to point to your own semantics in response.

                    1. I wasn’t trying to be conciliatory, I don’t know what guise you’re talking about.

                      The only one latching onto a minor point is you. You didn’t even address the argument I actually made in my post before that.

                    2. The commonness of pro-Jew muslims or some such. It was directly and succinctly addressed.

                    3. Reread your first post in this thread. You didn’t just claim that most Norwegian Muslims aren’t pro-Jew. You said they supported them being killed.

                    4. At worst in that post I should have included a category for apathy on the issue. Granted most don’t implicitly support attacks on Jews, however in every country surveyed no small proportion does seem to support that however. When 1 in 4 British Muslims support the 7/7 bombings and large swathes, sometimes over half of them openly identify with the goals of al-Qeada it’s not a leap to assume they harbor a similar antipathy towards Jews.

                      I’d love to get my hands on some polling data in Norway, but these types of studies (the ones that hurt people’s feelz) have been harder to conduct in the Scandanavian countries.

                    5. Ok, so you admit that you didn’t actually have proof behind your initial comment? Good

                      Also, you’re completely misinterpreting the results of that poll of British Muslims. 1 in 4 said that they sympathized with the motives of the terrorists, only 6% said the attacks were justified – I’ll grant that the numbers are still significant and way higher than they should be, I have never said otherwise – but that’s still less than a quarter of your initial claim, and 6% of British Muslims supporting the 7/7 bombings doesn’t exactly provide much support for the initial assertion (which to your credit you have to some extent walked back) that most Norwegian Muslims support killing Jews.

                    6. Ok, so you admit that you didn’t actually have proof behind your initial comment? Good

                      My point has always been that there’s not enough evidence to justify celebrating the tolerance displayed by Muslims in Norway. They would have to be unique from almost all other Muslim populations in the world in their beliefs.

                      I’ll grant that the numbers are still significant and way higher than they should be

                      That’s my argument. It’s why I’m appalled by double digit approval numbers for all sorts of barbarity among populations of adherents of Islam.

                      6% of British Muslims supporting the 7/7

                      From the CBS article

                      Tragically, almost one in four British Muslims believe that last year’s 7/7 attacks on London were justified because of British support for the U.S.-led war on terror.

                      How do you get 6% out of 1 in 4?

                      Muslims in general tend to support killing Jews more than any group aside from perhaps the old school Nazis. I don’t see what’s so controversial about that claim.

                  2. Really a minor point of my previous post, but if you want to latch onto it for dear life then I can’t stop you.

        2. I find it interesting how Charles says the synagogue is already heavily protected as a simple matter of fact, not as something unusual in itself.
          It’s become normal for synagogues in Europe to be walled, gated and guarded – I wonder if the same is done for churches or mosques?

    2. So what are you doing to stop all these school shootings by white people? Because, you know, your membership in a group makes you automatically responsible for any violence committed by another member of the group.

      1. So what are you doing to stop all these school shootings by white people? Because, you know, your membership in a group makes you automatically responsible for any violence committed by another member of the group.

        Fortunately “white people” is not a set of ideas and beliefs. Great analogy though, you really nailed it.

        1. Anders Breivik certainly had an ideology, and I’m unaware of any Muslim terrorist who has killed anywhere near as many Norwegians as he has.

          1. Are you attempting to make a point?

            1. Anders Breivik was motivated by his anti-Islamic views and the support of immigration and (his words) “Cultural Marxism” by the party he targeted. You are also admittedly anti-Islam, so are you now responsible for his actions and obligated to actively stop him and his ilk from killing people?

              1. As a libertarian, do you disagree with communism? Then I guess you need to atone for how the non-communist US army napalmed the little communist villagers in North Vietnam.

                I have a disbelief in the ideas of Islam, it offends all human dignity and drives it’s adherents to do so for complex reasons. That’s not the same as the fascist brand of thinking that motivated Breivik. Being anti-Islam does not render one a fascist.

                You’re making a leap in service to a bad analogy.

                1. I wasn’t the one using that logic, you were. I don’t actually think you need to apologize for Breivik any more than Abdul the random Muslim needs to apologize for ISIS.

                  1. I said your analogy doesn’t work and you declare it’s victory. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon.

                    1. Islam is a discrete set of beliefs. Anti-Islam is myriad and varied. I can’t make it any simpler for you.

                    2. You tried to argue that by accusing me of hypocrisy based on an argument that was only showing you the ends of your own logic.

                      “Being anti-Islam does not render one a fascist.”

                      Nor does being Muslim mean one supports terrorism, ISIS, killing Jews, etc.

                    3. “Being anti-Islam does not render one a fascist.”

                      Nor does being Muslim mean one supports terrorism, ISIS, killing Jews, etc.

                      Again, Islam is a discrete set of beliefs, anti-Islam is not. That is why your analogy doesn’t work. It’s like saying atheism must atone for communism. My logic is that communists must atone for communism, fascists for fascism and muslims for Islam. I hope you manage to absorb the distinction.

                    4. Being anti-Islam isn’t a religious belief, but it is a belief and a viewpoint.

                      Islam is a set of beliefs, but those beliefs vary considerably and are interpreted very differently by different people and groups. If a Muslim doesn’t believe that being Muslim requires supporting what ISIS does, why should they apologize for it any more than a Christian should apologize for people who think it’s right and necessary to kill abortion doctors or otherwise commit violence? Is there some arbitrary % threshold here?

                    5. Being anti-Islam isn’t a religious belief, but it is a belief and a viewpoint.

                      A view that a communist might have for very different reasons than a libertarian or a Hindu would. Anti-Islam is not a discrete set of ideas like Islam is.

                      If a Muslimcommunist doesn’t believe that being Muslim a communist requires supporting what ISIS the USSR does, why should they apologize

                      Their support or non-support for ISIS is but one tiny facet of their set of beliefs and the verdict on that issue does not take away from their inherent wrongness or of the sinister evil their belief system promotes.

                    6. I’m anti-Islam, but I think you slip into collectivism a lot. I agree that Islam is a discrete set of beliefs, but Muslims do a lot of picking and choosing – though I’ll grant you they’re more homogeneous than most Christian sects.

                      I just generally don’t think there’s a lot of value in talking about how x-types do y-thing.

          2. Fun Fact: Anders Breivik’s unemployed mother told her diplomat husband she believed he was the antichrist and wanted to kill her when she had him in the womb. His father spent a small fortune trying to get custody of him & her other children when they were getting divorced but lost probably due to the prevailing misandrist view of fathers as incompetent parents and the victorian-era belief promoted by Freud that young children are always more attached to their mothers. The fact that she believed one of her sons was evil & undeserving of love wasn’t convincing enough to give full custody to Anders to the father. After the divorce the mother kept the father from ever visiting the children, which was easy enough as he was a diplomat who was sent somewhere else.

            1. I’ve heard that Anders’ manifesto is ideologically all over the place and makes Mein Kampf look like a rational treatise on the Aryan condition.

              Basically, Anders was insane, probably from the extreme emotional neglect suffered by his mother all his life. I forgot to mention his mother even hated to breast-feed him. She had clearly suffered some psychosis, and maybe Anders inherited her penchant for psychosis as well.

              If this guy’s “manifesto” can be considered a valid intellectual work representing the secret views & wishes of a segment of the population than so is the S.C.U.M.* manifesto by that woman who shot Andy Warhol – so is the Unabomber’s environmentalist manifesto & so are the views of the Oklahoma City Bombers.

              *Society for Cutting Up Men… this is an actual book that’s been published

  12. Too little too late…

    The overwhelming majority of Muslims are of the intolerant violent insular misogynist type – so much so that any good deed cannot move the scale because of the enormity of the weight on the other end.

    1. To be fair the majority of muslims like the majority of feminists and christians are useful idiot dupes who don’t understand what some of their fanatical elements really believing in & what they’re up to, nor do they realize how much political power these minorities wield (or in the case of christian theocrats are always attempting to wield… xtian fanatics don’t worry me nearly as much as they have no divine death penalty for apostasy & no xtian equivalent of Sharia unless you count Canon Law which is already recognized by xtian gov’ts as being archaic & backwards)

      Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Nonie Darwish do speeches at universities, etc. & they see a lot muslims in the west who have no idea what sharia law is like, what it really says in the Quran, how things are run in Islamic countries… one woman didn’t even know the only sure way to get to heaven for women is to obey & please their husbands (or fathers).

  13. Didn’t take too terribly long for the “nuke ’em all” crowd to fuck up the thread, did it?

    1. So atheists & other skeptics that use Islam to point how how absurd and evil religions can be are part of the “‘nuke ’em all’ crowd”? Seems just like yesterday atheist activists were patriotic dissenters fighting the slow forward crawl of theocracy and mocking the hyper-sensitivities of the religious zealots to cheering crowds and applauding audiences. Atheist intellectuals were seen as natural progressives who were edgy and spoke truth to power. Now, British newspapers compile lists of atheist “right-wing” persona non-gratas with people like Dawkins, Sam Harris & Ayaan Hirsi Ali (which is insane – I guess her crime was complaining too much about life under Islam and having her clitoris cut off and having Theo Van Gogh killed for making her movie Submission about domestic abuse in muslim countries… all very right-wing stuff). Gee, what happened? I swear if I didn’t know better I’d think there’s a weird double-standard at work here.

    2. It’s not really “nuke ’em all”, you know. It’s a recognition of the threat Islam itself is to modern Civilization.
      Here’s where people make the mistake, usually: We respect religious freedom, and have non-sectarian institutions that respect the separation of Church and State. Christ said “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”.
      But Islam is not only a religion, it is an ideology that incorporates a very different view of the word, and calls for nothing less than a theocracy, and preferably a brutal one, that metes out harsh punishments for many, many, petty offenses.
      It is, in fact, an evil ideology as bad as Communism, or GODWIN CENSOR.

      1. err “world”, although perhaps “Word” works

      2. P.S. Islam preaches a theocracy that forces everyone to think the same, act the same, and dress the same. Free thought, free speech, and even the free market is anathema to Islam. How many Nobel Prizes in science or even mathematics (supposedly the Great Arab Contribution) have been granted to a Muslim from ANY country? Free thought, and freedom itself, are actively suppressed.
        And so, Islam is an evil ideology.

  14. This is all well and good, but “haters?” That’s one word I never need to hear again…

  15. Interesting.

  16. Meanwhile in Denmark, 100s of muslims go to the funereal of the shooter

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/hu…..1.2245620#

  17. Any articles about Jews heading into Palestine while the IDF pounds civilian targerys to act as a shield?

    Yeah, borderline trolling.

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  20. “Islam is about protecting our brothers and sisters, regardless of which religion they belong to,” it says on the Facebook page (according to a translation here). “Islam is about rising above hate and never sinking to the same level as the haters. Islam is about defending each other.”

    Well ok, it’s nice they think this, however none of this is in the Islamic texts.

    They might want to credit these things to Islam, but none of these things have anything to do with Islam.

    I mean, I definitely prefer they believe this and behave this way, because it’s a far greater way to be than being Islamic.

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