NYPD Continues to Not Arrest People. Are New Yorkers Envying, Eating the Dead, Yet?


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The totally unplanned plunge in petty crime police enforcement has continued for a second week in New York City. The New York Times notes, "For the seven days ending Sunday, officers made 2,401 arrests citywide, compared with 5,448 in the same week a year ago, a 56 percent decline. For criminal infractions, most precincts' tallies for the week were close to zero. Citywide, there were 347 criminal summonses written, compared with 4,077 in the same week a year ago, according to Police Department statistics. Parking and traffic tickets also dropped more than 90 percent, the statistics showed."

This is similar to the plunge the week before. So where is surge of people who feel victimized as a result of the lack of police presence? Josh Greenman, an opinion writer for the New York Daily News, tweeted crime stats for last week showing an increase in murder, rape, and robbery, but nevertheless a five percent drop in violent crime when comparing the start of 2014 to the start of 2015.

Last week, when I made note of the first week of the "work stoppage," I added that the city would take a revenue hit when the police don't go around enforcing traffic laws and various petty misdemeanors. In this latest Times story, a president of one police union said that 911 calls are being responded to, but there were much fewer fines. "That's one of those things that will correct itself, I'm sure," he said.

If the union president is saying that the situation will correct itself once the city realizes what it's losing, actually maybe they should check some numbers. I originally thought it was a little bit silly for the New York Police Department to attempt to take a "starve the beast" tactic against its own employers. After all, in many cities, public safety departments are their largest expenses. They are the hungry belly of the beast.

So let's look at New York City's adopted budget for the 2015 fiscal year, and pull out some figures that perhaps the police unions should keep in mind when it thinks its behavior is hurting the city's bottom line. The biggest surprise is that, yes, the city does get a lot of money from fines, but not even enough to pay a quarter of the salaries of the city's police officers.  

Reason: Jason Keisling

I included the cigarette taxes, since Eric Garner's death and the reasons behind it have helped fuel this fight. The city also gets $535 million in hotel taxes, thus the targeting of Airbnb room-sharing services. Anyway, this should make it clear that the police are dependent on the money the city gets from sources outside of the police enforcement of the law in order to continue to do their work. That's not always the case with cities, especially small ones, but it certainly is for New York City.

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  1. Both sides are assholes. Consider:

    “Don’t Shoot” protesters interrupt ceremony for 100 year WWII Vet

    Dario Raschio was at Portland Community College’s Southeast Campus to be honored by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, at a public town hall meeting. But shortly after Wyden began speaking, more than 100 demonstrators in the back of the room started shouting, The Oregonian reports.

    After 15 minutes of chanting against the deaths of unarmed black men by white police officers, Wyden was able to talk the group into quieting down so he could continue with the medal ceremony.

    Raschio joined the Navy at the age of 27 and participated in five campaigns in the Pacific theater, flying observational planes based off the USS Chester. He was awarded a frame filled with medals, including the U.S. Naval Aviator Badge, the American Campaign Medal, the Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal, the World War II Victory medal, the American Defense Service Medal, the “Ruptured Duck” award and the U.S. Navy Honorable discharge pin.

    As Raschio grabbed the microphone to address the crowd, he was heckled by protesters demanding that the U.S. military leave Iraq, The Oregonian reports.

    But the centenarian shot back, saying “give me a chance” and “let’s show a little respect for this occasion,” drawing cheers from the audience.

    1. By both sides, I assume you mean the protestors and the police?

      Because I think I like the vet.

      1. Yeah, nothing wrong with the vet. Protestors were jerks.

      2. Yes, of course. But my god, talk about a public relations disaster. The only thing that could have made it worse is if they had a white guy show up dressed as Hitler for some performance art.

      3. I may catch some flack for this here, but Wyden seems like an alright, stand-up guy to me too. Excluding the vet as well, everybody else can just go suck a fat baby’s dick.

        1. Wyden has shown a spine on civil liberties, which earns him my respect despite disagreements with his other, standard liberal Democrat positions on economics.

    2. One side has a just cause polluted with many assholes. The other side are just assholes acting like assholes for assholes.

      1. Honestly, I’m not completely convinced the one side has a just cause, but rather a cause that is kind of, sort of, similar to a just cause. As far as I can tell, the protesters main grievance is the claim that the police are racist. That’s different from a claim of excessive police aggression.

        1. This is what I am seeing. They have hijacked an important issue and driven it off into useless tribalism. If they accomplish anything of value it will be by accident.

  2. bit silly for the New York Police Department to attempt to take a “starve the beast” tactic against its own employers. After all, in many cities, public safety departments are their largest expenses. They are the hungry belly of the beast.

    Number of staff or officers expected to be laid off due to drop in expected revenues: 0.

    1. How can you boast about having the 3rd largest army if you cut soldiers?
      / too lazy to look up actual quote.

  3. Crime is down 94% in NYC. Chicagoans are envious:

  4. Being in NYC at all would be enough to make me envy the dead.

    1. Well, the broadway shows are divine. Abusive cops, high taxes, and astronomic real estate is just icing on the cake.

      1. Spoken like a bunch of cunts who can’t afford to live in a decent city.

        1. NYC isn’t decent.

        2. I *can* afford to live in a decent city – that’s why I don’t live on the east coast.

            1. -20F sounds pretty decent to me!

    2. It really is stifling. I get why people who work in finance have to live there, put that doesn’t explain the other 10 million people put up with that shit.

      They actually have garbage police there, who dig through your garbage, and fine you if you don’t sort recyclables properly.

      1. Quality of life, shithead. New York is the best city in the world and you are a fucking douchebag,

        1. Only douchebag I see here is you, fuckbucket. Enjoy the smell of urine as you ride the subway to work.

          1. That Playa didn’t respond with this depresses me.

            1. Was on a call. I deputize you.

        2. NYC has a shitty quality of life.

          1. Super expensive. Cramped and crowded. Smelly. Everything is a pain in the ass to accomplish. But you can find some of the best food in the world and whatever else you want. But yeah, overall QOL in NYC blows.

        3. Being forced to sort recyclables contributes to your quality of life, how exactly?

          Maybe one day people will wake up and realize that living among sanctimonious douchebags is too high of a price to pay for 24 hour chinese food and year-round performances of CATS.

    3. When the light at the end of the tunnel is New Jersey…

  5. Just when I think nothing will surprise me, I learn that NYC makes a million freakin dollars a week on cigarette taxes.

  6. President of what?

  7. I thought they got you in Cleveland?

  8. Here’s where this article gets it wrong. It assumes that there’s logic to all of this when it isn’t just an incredibly corrupt and inefficient machine that keeps going with no real supervision. The cops and their unions vote and give money to their politicians of choice. They elect those politicians. In turn, the politicians turn around and give them cozy labor deals. In order to cover that, they pass petty laws to drive up revenue that the cops collect. It’s win-win for everyone except the tax payer.

    Without the money taken from fines, the point is the political class can’t pay the salaries of the cops. It’s a vicious cycle, but the cops win because they have their unions and they are, inexplicably, still winning the PR battle in all this. The two cops being killed was a god send for the NYPD. I wouldn’t blink if that was the exact thought in the minds of the crooks running the union.

    So, the cops aren’t going anywhere. Neither are there salaries and other perks. It’s ingrained into the DNA of the beast. The money lost does will need to be accounted for if it keeps up long enough.

    Or maybe it goes on so long the dam finally breaks and some cops start getting their hours cut. The horror…

    1. “They elect those politicians. ”

      How many cops are there relative to voter turnout there?

      1. I just checked, according to Wiki a bit north of a million votes in last mayoral election and the NYPD has 50 k employees. If you assume very high turnout by the employees they would account for one out of 25 voters. And that’s one government agency!

        1. Now add spouses, siblings, retired members and *their* friends and families, plus general copsuckers, and you’re talking a serious block.
          Oh, better add the prison guards and their ilk. Probably a few other groups I’m mission.

        2. There’s an additional factor you’re overlooking. The cops’ votes aren’t uniformly distributed between electoral districts. In some city council, state assembly or even Congressional districts, the 1/25 number is a wild understatement. Do you think it’s purely coincidence that the crooked Congressman from Staten Island/Bay Ridge is a former prosecutor?

      2. Maybe Brochetta is referring to the money they give to the campaigns which help elect favorable politicians. Maybe. God, Bo, are you being serious?

        1. First, I was supporting his point. Any one bloc with one out of 25 votes is considerable in it’s influence.

          Second, give me a break. The least thing I’m worried about us the deep pockets of the police men’s union.

          1. “And that’s one Govt agency”

            My bad. Your clarification helps. You meant that’s just one govt agency. Reread your post, however, and it’s possible to read it as meaning they’re lacking political pull.

            1. Imagine, that’s one govt agency on the city. It doesn’t count teachers. Garbage workers. Social workers. Etc Cripes are there any voters in NYC that don’t work for the city?

              1. Cripes are there any voters in NYC that don’t work for the city?

                The Cemetary Vote and the Illegals.

          2. The PBA nationally gives about 15 million in political campaign donations. The AMA (doctors) gives twice that. The strength of unions lies much more in it’s numbers than pockets.



            1. 1 in 25 max right? Since they work for the govt there isn’t much doubt how they’ll usually vote. The $ they give, however, is used to get the few votes left up for grabs. If you want to reduce the number of cops to reduce their voting power, good.

              1. That doesn’t include spouses and parents or adult children. Or retired cops.

                1. I work for the govt, not the U.S., and my wife and her family who don’t are huge supporters of govt largesse. As Mises pointed out, socialism fails because it’s a bad idea which people eventually realize. Even those who work for the state.

            2. In a sense. Many public sector union members also get paid leave to work on political activity. As far as direct voting goes, their numbers are relatively tiny in most races.

      3. Very few cops actually live in the five buroughs and so are ineligible to vote in local NYC elections. Most live in Rockland and Nassau counties.

    2. Maybe, we’ll see. Finance jobs are trickling out of NY. Parasites can’t feed without hosts.

  9. Where’s Snark Plisken?

    1. This is an excellent question for which I have no answer.

      1. Maybe they did get him in Cleveland

  10. In the little bit of reading I’ve done on this subject (NY papers, etc.) I have found the ironic (or is it un-ironic?) headlines funny when they state, not that “arrests plummet”, but “crime plummets.” Almost enough to make me think that we libertarians have some moles in NYC.

    1. Its funny, that correlation between the number of laws and the number of crimes committed.

      1. You’d almost think there was causation there – but what could the mechanism possibly be . . .

  11. Another view – Solving the Police Problem

    1. For example, if you see a drug dealer on the corner peddling rock, what should you do? Nothing. Doing nothing protects you, protects the dealer, and keeps the locals from burning the neighborhood.

      He’s right, but not for the reasons he thinks he’s right.

        1. Nope.

          The problems of maintaining a stable legal order.

          A stable legal order at the cost of personal freedom is not what libertarians are about.

          Misunderstanding what the Drug War is, due to taking political propaganda at face value.

          Yeah, and he never bothers to enlighten us on what the Drug War is or what political propaganda we’re taking at face value.

          Last I checked, the political propaganda was that the WoD was necessary as drugs were an inherent evil – something that libertarians *reject*.

        2. The libertarian is supposed to be fighting for the rights of the people like the petty merchants whose businesses the rioters are destroying. The rioter who destroys his shop and threatens his life is a more direct threat than the policeman who collects tax and intimidates the more dangerous men away from his territory.

          Similarly, it’s nonsensical to simultaneously support an ideology that supposedly fights for the rights of ordinary people to maintain the integrity of their persons and property against all challengers to express sympathy for assassins of police officers.

          Yeah, no. I haven’t seen this strawman whom he’s constructed.

          But thanks for playing the “theoretical Libertarian Guy” game, jerkwater.

  12. Without the money taken from fines, the point is the political class can’t pay the salaries of the cops.

    The point of the article is that *they’re not* paying the cops with the money from fines. That money isn’t even enough to cover 1/4 the *salaries*, let alone the rest of the NYPD’s operational expenses.

    So by cutting down on petty offense tickets in an attempt to hurt NYC government from revenue loss – well its not going to work.

    As a PR move, especially if the media gets in on their side and helps the spin that the city needs this money – that might have some traction. Voters are stupid after all and for them reality is what they think it is, facts need not apply.

    1. This is odd logic. No, the city isn’t turning a profit, but that’s not the goal. It is still needed money. You can’t cut out $1b from the budget without cutting ‘services’ in some way.

      Those cuts aren’t going to come from the cops. That’s the point and why it’s political leverage. The fines are NEEDED to pay the salaries regardless of whether they cover the full costs or not.

      1. cut services? lol. just borrow the money/

      2. Dummy,

        RTFA, the fines are NOT NEEDED. Agamemnon just told you and you still don’t get it. You are fucking retarded.

        1. Lovely, an arsehole who can’t read.

      3. Brochetta is right, but maybe missing the point of the article. The city ‘needs’ every dollar it gets, every dollar is fungible. The author’s point is that it only ‘needs’ so much for funding the pig department.

        1. Well, it’s not that I’m missing the point as much as I’m factoring in what I believe the article misses. Meaning, the dollars themselves are still significant, but the main thing is there is no real alternative even available to the politicians here.

          Because at the end of the day, De Blasio or whoever else (even if was willing) won’t and can’t survive a fight with the unions in New York. So, there’s no leverage against the cops. The only thing you could do is start firing and cutting hours. That’s not going to happen. The cops aren’t going to lose money, but the city will. This isn’t so much of a fight as one side (the cops) bludgeoning a foe begging them to stop.

          1. But the cops need the city. They can’t just bludgeon cash out of the air. It’ll be tough but they aren’t invincible. The fedgov needs to stop handing out bennies though.

            1. Have you not heard of Detroit?

        2. The city doesn’t NEED every dollar it gets. The city NEEDS to get rid of employees that do not provide services the residents want.

          For example, what percentage of policing involves petty crimes/fines plus victimless crimes? If it’s 50%, then the city can cut the police force by 50% and cost themselves say 25 million in revenue but save 100 million in expenses. A net financial improvement of 75 million.

    2. Where the unexpected positive blowback could occur, is that NYC citizens, after going a couple months without being harassed for jaywalking, speeding, and smoking pot, decide that they are better off.

      1. Yeah, like anyone listens to *them*.

        Citizens of NYC have three functions.

        Pay taxes
        Vote for who the hell they’re told to vote for
        Shut the hell up

      2. I’m too cynical to believe that would happen. Most NY citizens who would notice the difference don’t vote. The union does. The others are the ones who pay for the false sense of security.

        1. Fuck off, Brochettaward, the only thing that NY citizens have in common is we hate fucking idiots like you.

          1. My but you’re charming!

          2. A wise man keeps his mouth closed, but a foolish man opens it and reveals he is an anthropomorphic bucket of excrement. You foolish shitpail.

        2. Maybe they’ll realize how good life is without a stifling police state and leave for greener pastures.

          1. Fuck that. I don’t want those assholes showing up in my neck of the woods. They built that toilet, let ’em float around in it.

            1. You *know* what happens to turds when the toilet clogs.

              1. Yes, I remember Katrina. That was one hell of a huge toilet overflowing.

                1. When New Yorkers flee the progressive hell, they just set up shop in the South for the better weather and continue to vote for the some policies that forced them out in the first place. I’m sure there are exceptions. Most I’ve encountered fall in that category, though.

                  1. I think the south will assimilate them and change at least a large number of them into non-enemies of freedom.

                    1. I think the south will assimilate them and change at least a large number of them into non-enemies of freedom.

                      Which is precisely how Virginia ended up being purple, same with Florida.

                      Georgia is going the same way as Atlanta expands.

                      These people don’t assimilate, they live in self-reinforcing enclaves of fucktardary that just get bigger. If anything they get more progressive.

                    2. Southern state governments are the friends of freedom? Say what?

          2. That’s not funny. I’ve already been noticing a lot, of New York plates, in my town.

  13. How much is that in dollars?

  14. This is a temper tantrum. Nothing more. There is no logic to it, and if the city tries to cut the department’s budget, there will be another temper tantrum.

    1. A sense a trend that can and should be reinforced.

  15. Even if you arbitrarily segregate the police budget from the r5est of the city’s finances, AT THE MARGIN the loss of this revenue is a big deal.

    Of course, it’s somewhat ironic that the police are explicitly underlining their role as strong arm extortioners and freelance tax collectors.

    1. And this, of course, is the point. A point that should be made by every self-called Libertarian, or even self-called Small Government Conservative: the police are not there to protect and serve, they are there as the tax collecting arm of the government. They are vile, self-serving, enforcers of Big Government, and should be treated as such (which, in times long past, would mean that the contempt and hostility of all true Americans would drive any honest man from such dishonorable work).

  16. extortionISTs.

    It’s time for a beer.

  17. “Keisling! Hurry up and throw together some graph on how much NYC is spending on criminal justice.”

    “Do I get a byline?”

    “Sigh. Sure.”

  18. It might be a bit off-topic but I spotted these articles from City-Journal http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon0105mh.html The 2nd one is from 2013 but it could be a path of return if NYC did more missteps.

  19. I wonder if NYC will end out net ahead of this. Less bullshit arrests means a lower risk of police abuse and fewer settlements for the city.

  20. At a bar at a restaurant for lunch yesterday when a bunch of cops, like 40-50 camr in from the funeral of one of the murdered cops. A few things I overheard…

    “Yeah but did you tell him who your friends are?”

    “And in another 2 years he’ll be at $250”. $250k I assumed he was talking about.

    1. Did he say dollars? Maybe he meant pounds.

    2. Cops make shitloads of money for what they do. It’s obscene what some make.

  21. And in another 2 years he’ll be at $250. $250k I assumed he was talking about.

    Pounds, more likely. The guy’s probably 5’8″.

    1. I hadn’t thought of that. Could be.

  22. New York is the best city in the world and you are a fucking douchebag,


  23. The whole situation is just surreal.Cops get a bad reputation. Mayor mentions part of bad reputation. Cops decide to protest their perception by stopping many of the actions that got them the bad reputation to begin with.Only, they think they’re really fucking people over. It’s like we somehow got a mole inside the police union. Also, why is it so surprising to anyone that the NYPD would have an image problem? By their own admission, they’re largely tax collection for the city. If they just investigated crimes, made arrest, and kept the peace they might be well liked and respected, depending on how they do the job. But everyone hates tax collectors, always have, always will.

    1. This.

      The Sheriff of Nottingham was a bad guy for similar reasons.

    2. It’s like we somehow got a mole inside the police union.


    3. “The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.” – Robert Conquest’s third law of politics.

      This seems to be applying with unusual force to both sides, here.

  24. Tulpa hardest hit.

  25. Taibbi is confused, too.

    My first response to this news was confusion. I get why the police are protesting ? they’re pissed at Mayor de Blasio, and more on that in a minute ? but this sort of “protest” pulls this story out of the standard left-right culture war script it had been following and into surreal territory.

    I don’t know any police officer anywhere who would refuse to arrest a truly dangerous criminal as part of a PBA-led political gambit. So the essence of this protest seems now to be about trying to hit de Blasio where it hurts, i.e. in the budget, without actually endangering the public.

    So this police protest, unwittingly, is leading to the exposure of the very policies that anger so many different constituencies about modern law-enforcement tactics.

    First, it shines a light on the use of police officers to make up for tax shortfalls using ticket and citation revenue. Then there’s the related (and significantly more important) issue of forcing police to make thousands of arrests and issue hundreds of thousands of summonses when they don’t “have to.”

    But they enjoy their dominance displays. They like bullying people; especially the harmless ones.

    1. make up for tax shortfalls

      Yeah, that’s what it is. And now that they aren’t collecting as many fines they’re subsidizing criminals.

  26. Also-

    For one thing, it’s simply another public union using its essential services leverage to hold the executive (and by extension, the taxpayer) hostage in a negotiation. In this case the public union doesn’t want higher pay or better benefits (in which case it wouldn’t have the support from the political right it has now ? just the opposite), it merely wants “support” from the Mayor.

    On another level, however, this is just the latest salvo in an ongoing and increasingly vicious culture-war mess that is showing no signs of abating.

    “Essential services” like harassing people who are not hurting anybody.

    1. Is the second from Taibi?

      If it is, then I can not believe that he is unable connect the “essential services leverage” to the idea that public sector unions need to be curtailed and/or giving the government a monopoly over certain services creates a dangerous power bottleneck. I mean, unless he was a fucking moron.

      Oh, wait. I’m talking about The Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibi. Never mind, carry on.

    2. Anytime someone talks of essential government services, I point out that that implies that some government services are not essential.

      They shut up real quick.

  27. 1. NYC sucks. A lot. hands down the worst city in the US, starting with high taxes and low polysci/econ IQ and rolling all the way down to NYC really being nothing more than 3 or 4 cities smashed together to make sure the tax base doesn’t have anywhere to hide.

    2. Any lost revenue really doesn’t matter (it’s all monopoly anyway) but I am surprised they’re not worried about people noticing that letting petty “crime” go unpunished has zero negative impact, and possibly results in significant improvements in the overall quality of life in the shithole that is New York City?

    3. Anyone know how the geniuses running NYC explain that retarded low $53 mil in cig taxes pulled from a city of over 8 million people taxed at almost $6 per pack? Everyone quit as expected/demanded?

    1. . . . but I am surprised they’re not worried about people noticing that letting petty “crime” go unpunished has zero negative impact . . .

      Well, that last goverment shutdown had the government *deliberately* trying to cause pain and suffering, had no negative affect, and people *still* talk like the world would end if it happened again.

      1. How dare you bring the horrors of THE SHUTDOWN 2014 into this. Don’t you realize that some people were mildly inconvenienced and many more paid weeks late?! This un-moderated comment section is supposed to be a safe place

        *happy thoughts*happy thoughts*happy thoughts*

        had forgotten about that though; ’tis a shame.

    2. People quit alright, they quit buying everywhere but the black market.

  28. NYPD Continues to Not Arrest People.

    The piles of child corpses littering the sidewalks must be 20 feet high. The fucking HORROR.

  29. While I will not join the “NYC is the WORSTEST CITY EVAR!!!” I will note that I believe that the advantages that New York City once possessed have been greatly diminished in the internet era. While I will not have access to ALL of the culture, food, job opportunities, etc. in a city such as Austin or Denver, I lose out a lot less than I used to in those cities.

    I think for many Americans, the difference is just not THAT huge. This is, of course, different for the super rich or people from abroad who would like to find an American city to live in. New York City, with its well developed public infrastructure and population, is probably less of a culture shock than even Los Angeles for people from other countries (though not being from Beijing or London or Paris, etc. I can’t say I am fully competent to comment on this issue).

    1. Having been to NYC many times, I can say that while I like visiting and I can see why some people would like living there, I wouldn’t live there for Nancy Grace’s head on a pike.

      It just takes too much of everything.

      1. I would accept that offer out of equal parts bloodlust and charity

    2. I would agree, as a former New Yorker, that I think that some of the advantages have diminished. Before 9/11 you could pretty much operate completely unmolested if you weren’t stupid; it was actually weirdly anarchistic within what seems like such a statist city. But the numbers of people just allowed you to completely fly under the radar. But now the NYPD has even more ability to fuck with people and that isn’t good.

      But even with those changes, people don’t realize how FUCKING MASSIVE New York is. There may be shitloads of government and bullshit and politicians but it’s still easy to avoid that for the most part. And at least in the past, they were usually happy to battle for position and leave the peons alone. That was Giuliani to a T. A total asshole who had no interest, for the most part, in telling the peasants what to do.

      1. Yes. It is pretty easy to fly under the radar. Granted you donpay the crazy taxes in one way or another. But it’s pretty easy to be left alone for the most part. I say this as a 35 year old white guy, but whatever. That’s my experience here. I also like how I can walk out of my house at any time and find what I’m looking for. The MTA blows and has gotten nailed using multiple sets of books. Still, when its running I pay $2.50 to get to work. Not bad really.

        1. *do pay

      2. Unless you want to sell loose cigarettes, apparently…

        1. That used to not be the case, which is Epi’s point. The Bloomberg administration really fucked things up.

          1. As much as I hate Bloomberg, is it all really his fault or was he the chap on duty when Ghouliani’s and Dinkins’ bills started coming due? (Not to say Bloomberg’s trail of debt is better, only that the worst of Bloomberg’s administration is yet to come.)

            This is one of the problems with term-limits, believe it or not. I still support term limits, but I think they have to be coupled with term limits on borrowing or they simply won’t work. It is idiotic to limit a mayor, president, Congress, etc. to a 4-year term and yet allow these pieces of shit to sell bonds of durations longer than 4 years. I can police myself into not buying a government bond longer than 4 years, but allowing the opportunity for the fraud only ensures that the fraud will happen.

    3. Personally, I’m leaning towards wanting a big piece of land in the country. I’m not much for the theater, could probably enjoy as much as interests me on an occasional trip. No need to actually live there. I can cook almost anything I want better than most restaurants, the exception being sushi. Film, you can get anything over the internet, bootlegged if necessary, Netflix DVDs as a last resort.

      Advantages to a remote piece of land would be: privacy, to do things that you don’t want a lot of eyes to see, space to do things that require space, like having people over for a big party, or building large art pieces. You talk about being able to fly under the radar in New York, but I’m assuming you don’t mean growing weed in your back yard or building a large flame-throwing robot. Not that you would even be about to afford a place that has a yard there.

      1. I’ve found being in a large city to be far more private than out in the country.

        Believe me, your neighbors will know absolutely every single thing you do on your property in nearly real time out in the sticks.

        I decided to build a range on my land and I told the guy hauling all the sand for the backstop what it was for and before I had even finished the little shoot house one of my neighbors wandered over and asked if he and his son could use it from time to time.

        When I built my polebarn I had 4 people telling me who I should get to pour the concrete before I had even leveled the site.

        In one city I lived in I didn’t even know what my neighbors on my floor looked like, forget about the building or the ‘hood. You simply vanish in the sea of people. I was sometimes gone for months on end, nobody asked where I had been. I’ve been on three trips to Venezuela in the last year for a former employer. The first time I was gone for nearly a month and didn’t inform everyone on my road. When I finally got home my phone blew up from people I really only “know” in passing asking me where I had been and if I was alright.

        1. I have noticed this seeming paradox too. People who don’t like interacting with people live in cities, people who like talking to their neighbors live in rural environments. People who are afraid of other people live in the suburbs.

          1. I don’t know about that. Try building a gun range in your flat and I think the neighbors will notice. And don’t even get me started about trying to put up a pole barn on the hall….

      2. You forget how much of the modern conveniences in the country are subsidized by law. Cable television service and its internet sibling should be somewhat expensive in the country; telephone service would have been if not for the ridiculous taxes on urban phone service to pay for rural telephone infrastructure. Postal service would be priced by locale as well, so either the price of postage in rural areas would be higher or the service would be once a week rather than once a day.

      1. Also, I was going to put in some stuff about the Chief being that asshole from LA, but upon googling, I was informed that a new Chief of Police was appointed in 2011. I have been down in OK since before then, so I am pleasantly surprised that that particular douche is gone. I don’t know anything at all about the new guy. I do know the DP was staffed with thugs when I left, but police work was at least prioritized, meaning that, USUALLY, if you weren’t dangerous or committing a felony, the police were too busy to fuck with you.
        I do have a story where I was threatened, while handcuffed, but at least it was during SERIOUS STUFF (my sainted wife had decided, under the influence of her girlfriend, to do coke and argue with a gang-banger, after I had gone to bed, and seemed SHOCKED when he hit her over the head with a bottle and shot rounds into the house).
        God, I miss Denver. Now that Mamma has gone home (to a Heaven I wish I believed in), I hope to get back home myself, to the heaven that is the Front Range.

  30. I was going to post about the paradox that, as violent crime has fallen in NYC, the number of police has risen. But (according to wikipedia) the number of “sworn officers” has dropped in the last 10 years, from 40K to 35K. I’m pleasantly surprised.

    1. Must also take into account how many desk jobs used to require “sworn officers” that now don’t because the union doesn’t want to do those desk jobs. Because of the pension formulas in most cities, sworn officers don’t want to be assigned duties that won’t provide overtime opportunities in their last few years of service.

      “Sworn officers” and “cops on the beat” are two different things.

  31. Sound liek a pretty cool place to be dude.


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