The Year the Crusade Against 'Rape Culture' Stumbled
The movement capitalized on sympathy for victims of sexual assault to promote gender warfare, misinformation, and moral panic.

December has not been a good month for the feminist crusade against the "rape culture."
The Rolling Stone account of a horrific fraternity gang rape at the University of Virginia, which many advocates saw as a possible "tipping point"—a shocking wake-up call demonstrating that even the most brutal sexual assaults on our college campuses are tacitly tolerated—has unraveled to the point where only a true believer would object to calling it a rape hoax.
At first, when investigative reporting by The Washington Post revealed major holes in the story, activists as well as feminist commentators chastised those who were too quick to declare it discredited. Just because Rolling Stone screwed up its reporting, they said, doesn't mean that Jackie was not sexually assaulted or that her complaint was not neglected by the university. Just because Jackie changed her story, they insisted, doesn't make her a liar—merely a likely rape victim whose trauma-fogged memory caused her to get some details wrong. (Her story, let's not forget, had changed from being forced to perform oral sex on five men to being vaginally raped by seven men, punched in the face, and cut on shattered glass.) "The man that Jackie describes, named 'Drew' in the story, is a real person on campus," wrote leading feminist pundit Amanda Marcotte, referring to Jackie's date who supposedly brought her to a fraternity party and lured her into a rape trap. "He just happens to belong to another fraternity on campus. Which means that, while there's a chance she's lying, there's also a very big and very real chance that this all happened and she just forgot what frat house it was at."
Now, it turns out "Drew"—or "Haven Monahan," the name Jackie originally gave her friends—doesn't seem to exist after all, on the UVA campus, anywhere in the United States, or probably anywhere on the planet. His name is straight out of a particularly cheesy romance novel; his photo, which Jackie's friends got in text messages, turned out to match a former high school classmate of hers who goes to a different college. It also looks like Jackie made up both "Haven" and the sexual assault he supposedly engineered in an attempt to get the romantic attention of Ryan Duffin, one of the friends she called for help that night. Tellingly, her lawyer has not commented on these revelations. The only alternate explanation is that Jackie is the victim of a diabolically clever frame-up by her ex-friends.
Assuming Jackie is a fabulist, one can debate how much blame she deserves. It's clear she's a troubled young woman, and somewhat in her defense she did not falsely accuse any actual men (though it certainly seems that she falsely accused her former friends, two men and one woman, of treating her brutal rape as a minor unpleasantness far less important than invitations to frat parties). It is also clear that she was exploited by author Sabrina Rubin Erdely, and arguably Rolling Stone too, in pursuit of a sensational story. But some of the blame must go to the movement that encouraged her in turning her fantasy of victimhood into activism—especially when that movement is so entrenched in its true-believer mindset that some of its adherents seem unable to accept contrary facts. Katherine Ripley, executive editor of the UVA student newspaper, The Cavalier Daily, continued to post #IStandWithJackie tweets for days after the "Haven Monahan" story broke. Two other UVA students made a video thanking Jackie for "pulling back the curtain" on campus rape and praising her "bravery."
Meanwhile, even as the UVA saga unfolded, the "women's page" of the online magazine Slate, Double X, published an outstanding long article by liberal journalist Emily Yoffe examining the excesses of the campus rape crusade—from the use of shoddy statistics to hype an "epidemic" of sexual violence against college women to the rise of policies that trample the civil rights of accused male students. The piece was retweeted nearly 2,500 times and received a great deal of positive attention, partly no doubt on the wave of the UVA/Rolling Stone scandal. Some of Yoffe's critique echoes arguments made earlier by a number of mostly conservative and libertarian commentators. But, apart from the extensive and careful research she brings to the table, the fact that these arguments were given a platform in one of the premier feminist media spaces is something of a breakthrough, if not a turning point.
Just days after the publication of Yoffe's article, the Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics released a new study boosting her case (and based on data she briefly discussed). The special report, "Rape and Sexual Assault Victimization Among College-Age Females, 1995–2013," shows that not only are female college students less likely to experience sexual assault than non-college women 18 to 24, but the rate at which they are sexually assaulted is nowhere near the "one in five" or "one in four" statistics brandished by advocates. The National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), from which the BJS derives its data, found that approximately 6 out of 1,000 college women say they have been sexually assaulted in the past year. Over four years of college, economist Mark Perry points out, this adds up to about one in 53. Still a troubling figure, to be sure, but it does not quite bear out claims that the American campus is a war-against-women zone.
Journalists who embrace the narrative of campus anti-rape activism, such as The Huffington Post's Tyler Kingkade and Vox.com's Libby Nelson, have tried to rebut claims that the new DOJ report discredits the higher advocacy numbers. Kingkade asserts that the NCVS "doesn't look at incapacitated rape," in which the perpetrator takes advantage of the victim's severe intoxication or unconsciousness. Nelson argues that because the survey focuses on crime victimization, respondents may underreport acquaintance rapes which don't fit the stereotype of the stranger with a knife jumping out of the bushes.
But neither criticism holds up. The standard question used in the NCVS to screen for sexual victimization is, "Have you been forced or coerced to engage in unwanted sexual activity by (a) someone you didn't know before, (b) a casual acquaintance? OR (c) someone you know well?" In other words, respondents are explicitly encouraged to report non-stranger sexual assaults—and, while they are not specifically asked about being assaulted while incapacitated, the wording certainly does not exclude such attacks.
Kingkade also suggests that the numbers are beside the point, since the effort to combat campus sexual assault is about people, not statistics—specifically, "about students who said they were wronged by their schools after they were raped." Of course every rape is a tragedy, on campus or off—all the more if the victim finds no redress. But if it happens to one in five women during their college years, this is not just a tragedy but a crisis that arguably justifies emergency measures—which is why proponents of sweeping new policies have repeatedly invoked these scary numbers. (Sen. Kristen Gillibrand, Democrat of New York, has now had the one-in-five figure removed from her website.) And while the stories told by students are often compelling, it is important to remember that they are personal narratives which may or may not be factual. Only last June, Emily Renda, a UVA graduate and activist who now works at the school, included Jackie's story—under the pseudonym "Jenna"—in her testimony before a Senate committee.
Of course this is not to suggest that most such accounts are fabricated; but they are also filtered through subjective experience, memory, and personal bias. Yet, for at least three years, these stories been accorded virtually uncritical reception by the mainstream media. When I had a chance to investigate one widely publicized college case—that of Brown University students Lena Sclove and Daniel Kopin—for a feature in The Daily Beast, the facts turned out to bear little resemblance to the media narrative of a brutal rape punished with a slap on the wrist.
Now, in what may be another sign of turning tides, the accused in another high-profile case is getting his say. The New York Times has previously given ample coverage to Emma Sulkowicz, the Columbia University student famous for carrying around a mattress to protest the school's failure to expel her alleged rapist. Now, it has allowed that man, Paul Nungesser, to tell his story—a story of being ostracized and targeted by mob justice despite being cleared of all charges in a system far less favorable to the accused than criminal courts. No one knows whether Sulkowicz or Nungesser is telling the truth; but the media have at last acknowledged that there is another side to this story.
Will 2015 see a pushback against the anti-"rape culture" movement on campus? If so, good. This is a movement that has capitalized on laudable sympathy for victims of sexual assault to promote gender warfare, misinformation and moral panic. It's time for a reassessment.
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[Mark Perry bases his 1 in 53 4 year on an annual rate of 4.75 per 1000, not 6 per 1000.
6 per 1000 would be closer to 1 in 42 over 4 years.]
The question of whether the NCVS wording accurately measures the prevalence of incapacitated sexual assault is not trivial; it is not clear that a differently worded prompt that included wording explicitly covering a suitable paraphrase of the legal standard for incapacity to consent would give the same results. The CSA study is basically useless (at least Dook sucks worse), but the proportion of incapacitated to forcible incidents was enough to be worth a proper look.
It would be fairly easy to test for this by adding a question or two, should some magazine ever decide to commission a follow-up survey of millennial...
I'm pretty sure Mark Perry added up the victim rates for 2010 to 2013 from Appendix Table 1 (19/1000).
Reading twitter responses first (or the mythical numerate editor) would've saved me some time.
It would be fairly easy to test for this by adding a question or two, should some magazine ever decide to commission a follow-up survey of millennial...
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"It would be fairly easy to test for this by adding a question or two"
Which is why they didn't
No statistically 6 per 1000 is 6 per 1000. It is not additive unless you are arguing that the same 1000 subjects are victimized each year. So the rate is .06% of women are sexually assaulted each year.
As too incapacitated sex is it rape is both parties are sexually incapacitated? When two drunken people have sex why is it assumed the man is the initiator?
0.6%
"Stumbled"? More like they took turns stepping on takes ala Tom and Jerry.
Rakes not takes.
Look who's a traitor to her gender. And also to her magazine, as I don't see any Rico Soave links in her article.
He's not worthy because he didn't go to Columbia Journalism School!!!
Unlike Ed Krayewski and Anna Merlan!
Only rapey-rapists doubt rapes.
Like Steve Smth?
STEVE SMITH cannot doubt that which he reinvented
Working on the 3rd level?
This just in: feminists desperate for Reichstag fire. But not a flaming penis to be found.
Maybe at a Reichstag party.
That's worth a giggle.
Something that I think is rather telling is that, in the the last year or so, there really have been some gang-rapes on college campuses. Unfortunately for the activists, those rapes were not perpetrated by white frat boys, so they got little national coverage, and nobody is hyping them. Once again for feminists, leftist politics trumps actually protecting women.
I know a woman who was at a Berkeley feminist meeting many years ago. The attendees were told that the stereotype of a black man raping a stranger on the street was "a myth." My friend was too intimidated to raise her hand and say that had happened to her.
Well, there's a bit of a history of black men being framed for raping white women, and it makes contemporary journalists nervous. But, yes, the requirement that there be a *white* rapist or there's no story is silly.
To feminists, of course interracial rape is only a thing if the rapists are white lacrosse players.
Is that actually a thing outside of papaya's imagination? Being black didn't seem to save the Hofstra 5 or Jameis Winston from being scorched by the media, even though the 5 were innocent and there was never much evidence against Winston. Also, although the Steubenville case wasn't at a college, it was one of the biggest recent "rape culture" stories even though one of the rapists was black.
Five William Paterson University Students Accused Of Gang Rape On Campus
Vanderbilt's Chris Boyd pleads guilty in cover-up of alleged gang rape
Papaya, didn't that Patterson case break after the UVA case started to unravel?
It looks like the WPU rape happened Nov. 25th. The UVA case had just begun to unravel, with Richard Bradley's blog post on the 24th.
I'll give the media a pass for not running with a gang rape case as that was 'hitting the fan.' But the Vandy story is just damning.
Why do they deserve a pass? For weeks all the talk was about "rape on campus." In the middle of that, there is a gang rape on a campus... and the national media ignores a perfect, new, undeniable example of "rape culture"? It's obvious why they ignored it.
If I were an editor I think I'd be hesitant to run with such a story as another similar one was collapsing .
Ah, but the perps were arrested. That doesn't mean they are guilty, or even that the rape happened, but it's a heck of a lot more to hang a story on than one girl with an outrageous story.
Fair point, that.
Papaya,
Wasn't the whole point behind the UVA story that the school administration and everyone else was supposedly against the victim? An integral part of the rape culture narrative is that rape victims stand little chance of getting justice and are often not taken seriously and mistreated by society. How does a case where the accused are arrested support that narrative at all?
The larger narrative was "the epidemic of campus rape," so it makes no sense to not play up real cases (unless doing so would conflict with leftist dogma, which is my point). True, a sub-narrative was "rapes are ignored or dismissed," but that wasn't the primary message.
The rape culture narrative says that rape is widespread in our society because we supposedly condone it. That's not a subnarrative that's the entire thesis of rape culture. The UVA case, if it had been true (which most feminists assumed it to be) was an example of fraternities initiating members through rape, students ostracizing rape victims, and school administrators ignoring and mistreating victims. In other words, if true, it would have been a perfect example of a systemic culture supporting and abetting rape at a major American university. That is the holy grail to rape culture theorists. Also, the fact that it seemed over the top helps their agenda because it naturally will have more skeptics, which can then be used as more evidence of rape culture. Lastly, the Uva case had a rolling stone article written based on an interview with the accuser. The fact that you couldn't think of these sort of explanations and instead immediately jumped to the conclusion that the only reason those cases didn't get the attention the uva case did is because of race (while ignoring all the cases with white perps that get little to no attention and all the cases with black perps that get attention) says more about your biases than anyone else's.
Outstanding post !
I don't know what your beef with me is, Calidissident, but you sure put an awful lot of effort into Jesuitical nitpicking my posts, interpreting them in in most negative way possible, and then shifting the goalposts when I respond.
Yeah, OK, you can quibble about what parts of the feminist narrative were primary or secondary. I was calling "the epidemic of campus rape" the primary narrative because that tended to be the headline. I think "rape culture" was the secondary narrative because it tended to not be in the headline, but was the thesis "campus rape" was supposed to prove.
Now, feel free to argue about the definition of "narrative." Sheesh.
Yes, the UVA story hit all their buttons and seemed like the perfect weapon in their meme war. I saw all that. I've commented on it earlier. Perhaps you didn't read those. In any case, you persist in misinterpreting my point. I never said all the cases were equivalent. What I said was that if the narrative is "campus rape," and I think it was, then it makes little sense to promote questionable examples while not promoting unquestionable examples.
And, to an undeniable degree, that is what happened. Yes, the UVA story seemed to have some juicier details, and was in Rolling Stone, based on an interview, and talked about the administration not taking it seriously. But of course, it was all fake. A leftist reporter went looking for a specific story, and found it (and/or helped make it up).
I don't know how old you are, but for decades there's been an undeniable tendency of the media to play down black crime. They don't want to "reinforce stereotypes," and it's an article of faith among leftists that all blame is on white, capitalist males. Sure, they can't ignore black crime, so it often gets reported. But they fudge things when they can, e.g. by not mentioning the race of suspects, by playing up some things and playing down others.
As I made clear in my post about my friend, this is one of the internal conflicts in feminism. They claim to be against rape, but they want to claim the problem lies with white frat boys, so they aren't going to make an equivalent fuss about rapes by black men, even when there are more such cases. Such cases may get mentioned, but they won't be emphasized in the same way. Get it?
So don't tell me about "my biases," asshole.
I think that there is a "rape culture" that is condoned...in Rotherham. And other areas of GB. Don't think the feminists will mention that one tho...
Yes, Rotherham is another example of what I am talking about.
But yes that Vandy case, which I've never heard of before today, shows something is very fishy with liberal feminism. It's a gang rape at a 'genteel Southern' college, just the races are all 'wrong.'
Which is my point. Contemporary feminism is really just leftism in disguise, and so rapes by "oppressed" races don't really count because they don't fit the narrative.
The funny thing is it could fit the narrative, they'd just have to say that in some respects, such as sexual assault, patriarchy trumps racism. But since the Civil Rights Movement is the greatest thing of all time to the left I guess that's a bridge (to Selma) too far for them.
Wow, I agree. I need to go shower now.
It's more that the briwn segment of the population is the only group they can still rely upon. The white 'working classes' largely kicked them to the curb years, even decades ago.
I wonder if they actually support abortion in the case of a white female impregnated by rape by a black male. would that not further extend "white privilege"?
Contemporary feminism is really just leftism in disguise
When it isn't overtly Marxist.
I don't think you understood my comment. I wasn't saying that no black men commit gang rape in this country. I was disputing the notion that the media doesn't cover campus rape incidents when the alleged rapists are black. You linked to the Huffington Post, CNN, and NBC News stories about these incidents, not exactly right-wing outlets.
Bo, do you follow college football much? Honest question, because the Vanderbilt story has been a pretty big one for a couple years. James Franklin, their old coach who is now at Penn State, got a lot of heat for it and there were a lot of rumors that he lost out on chances for bigger coaching jobs because of it. Also, one of the rapists is clearly white.
I do follow it and I honestly just heard of it. But I think Papayas case stands if only the sports media was covering the Boyd case. It's not like that was true for the Duke lacrosse case for example.
I mostly heard about it from sports media sources IIRC, but I don't read the MSM much so I don't know how much coverage it got there (Papaya's link is to a generic CNN story btw). I remember Deadspin and Buzzfeed ran stories on it last year.
The Duke lacrosse case also got more attention than (just an example off the top of my head) the rape case involving Brendan Gibbons (a white Michigan kicker - there was also allegedly witness intimidation by Taylor Lewan, a white offensive tackle, in that case) did. Or just about any rape case in recent memory. I don't think you can take outlier cases like that and then assume that the reason another case isn't getting as much attention is because of (insert favored reason here). Jameis Winston's case got more attention than the Vandy one did, and he's black (whereas in the Vandy case, 3 of 4 rapists were black, plus the accessory). A lot of feminist arguments about rape culture that I've read have used athletes to make their point about our society supposedly glorifying and/or excusing violence and misogyny, and that includes black athletes like Winston, Kobe Bryant (do you remember how crucified he was in the media for years after that case?), and one of the Stebeunville guys.
At the end of the day, if the case for the media covering this up is that none of these stories have gotten as much attention as the story that got more attention than any rape case in recent memory, then I'm not sure how strong it is. It's hardly as if the media goes full Duke lacrosse every time a white guy is accused of raping a woman at a college.
Yes, you make several good points. It also appears Jezebel covered the Vandy case and made a distinction about what they saw as the institutions response. So I'll pull back on the claim about the Vandy case being so damning.
Was there the same claims about university officials not taking the case seriously in the Vandy case?
Bo,
It's been a while since I've read up on the case, but I do remember that Franklin was accused of being involved in the cover-up, although that was never proven.
Yes, rapes involving sports figures tend to get coverage, because sports. But my point was that amid all the blab about "campus rapes," some real stories of campus gang rapes got very little national coverage.
Yes, I linked to stories on national news outlets, but were they held up as examples by feminists on Jezebel, etc.? Were they discussed in big stories and editorials in Rolling Stone, the Washington Post, the NY Times? I don't think so. The usual suspects blabbing about "rape culture" did their best to ignore the stories I listed, because "rape culture" is a stick they want to use to beat the white patriarchy. It's just embarrassing to them when non-whites rape, because it "reinforces stereotypes."
I just did a Google search of Jezebel Vanderbilt rape and it looks like it did get more than a couple of coverages there. The commenters suggest a difference for them is the alleged responses of the universities in question.
Google of William Patterson rape Jezebel turned up zilch.
How many individual rape stories get a ton of national coverage? The UVA one became a huge story because of the Rolling Stone article, which was written because the magazine got an interview with the fake victim.
According to Bo, Jezebel did cover the Vandy case, and Buzzfeed also had at least one big story on it.
Like I said in my above response to Bo, if your argument is based on individual cases not getting as much attention as 1 or 2 cases that got more attention than pretty much any rape case in recent history, and then assuming that the reason for that is your preferred interpretation, then I'm not sure how strong your argument is. Again, how does Stebeunville fit into this? One of the guys was black, and that got more attention than virtually any rape case I can recall in recent memory besides Duke, Winston, Kobe, and the UVA story. And those kids were high school athletes, it's not like they were famous and got attention because of that.
Lastly, most of the stories I read by feminists on rape culture tend to focus on stories where the university and/or police allegedly were unsympathetic, unhelpful, and/or hostile to the victim. All 3 of those cases resulted in charges, so why would feminists focus on them when that doesn't fit the narrative that rape victims can't get justice in this country?
This. I was opining in another thread how it's going to be simultaneously disgusting and humorous to see the feminist rape culture train have a head-on collision with the racial victimhood train. When the rapist aggressor is a member of an oppressed minority, who wins the victim competition?
So far, I'm amazed at the degree they can pull it off. Essentially, they won't blame the victim, but if your rapists are black, they don't want to talk about it, and give people the wrong ideas. They're strictly out to slap justice on the white patriarchy, so, sorry, ladies raped by minorities: you'll have to be ignored. No one really cares especially for you.
How these people claim to be compassionate with credibility is beyond me. Then again, I hear that people are still losing money on street card games/shell games.
Two Charged With Raping 16-Year-Old Girl at Johns Hopkins Frat Party
It certainly is not a myth. That written, it happens far less often than rapists who happen to be black men raping women and girls that they know.
I know a woman who was at a Berkeley feminist meeting many years ago. The attendees were told that the stereotype of a black man raping a stranger on the street was "a myth." My friend was too intimidated to raise her hand and say that had happened to her.
But remember, they are pro-woman.
Black man on the street has been replaced by white frat boy at upper-tier public university.
Same shit, different Goldstein.
There is a way to partially remedy this stumble, and punish the perps. Those hurt by this Rolling Stone blunder are primarily the next women who want to come forward with legitimate rape claims. So, UVa, along with the fraternity in question, bring suit against Rolling Stone, pre-announcing that any awards or settlement will go towards funding a rape crisis center. There is no way that Rolling Stone defends itself against the optics of such a suit. They will settle, the rape crisis center will be funded, and at least partial amends will have been made by the perps who brought harm to future rape victims.
UVA can't sue, govt agencies can't sue for libel.
Why would the next woman be most harmed. The fraternity and the people accused are the most harmed. I would say the idea that rape accusations are dismissed by anyone now or prior to the rolling stone story, is a myth. The next accusation will be investigated, that hasn't changed.
I am shocked. Shocked I tell you. Obumbles fingerprints on the UVa rape story.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/acti.....id/614754/
The Emily Renda connection has been noted previously. Interestingly, her own rape story is another dramatically violent (i.e. nearly killed) rape that she also never reported to the police. Odd, that.
Obumbles administration has been pushing universities to set up kangaroo courts to handle rape claims. I suspect that the whole 'Jackie' debacle was cooked up in the white house. I am not sure why they want those university policy changes, but you can be sure it is to further some item on their progressive agenda. Maybe just to strike a blow against due process? Proggies do hate them some rule of law.
They do need to invent the 'rape culture' narrative to justify those kangaroo courts so it comes as no surprise to me that their stink is on the UVa lie.
I don't think the WH cooked up Jackie, I just think they seized on a disturbed woman's catfishing plan that had spun out of control.
No, they didn't cook up Jackie, but they used her. This is like their actions with regards to the Benghazi disaster. They didn't invent the video but used it to further their completely invented narrative. SOP for leftists.
I guess I am playing catch-up on this after spending a drunken news-free holiday. Just now reading your link.
I think the point behind all of it is to erode due process.
Proggies are evil shits.
Rape, where it has actually taken place, is a serious crime,a major felony. Factual stories/comments thereon ate worth of attention. Stories of rape and or claims thereon that are unfounded in fact also constitute a serious crime, and should be acted against.
It appears that in this case, we have an example of the latter situation. The woman,who in this case,seems to have been peddling hot air, should be acted against. It also strikes me that university officials, who appear to have gone off half cocked,who should have known better, should also be taken to that sometimes mentioned woodshed.
It is also clear that she was exploited by author Sabrina Rubin Erdely, and arguably Rolling Stone too
Not to me, it isn't. Still waiting for someone to explain how telling people your slanderous tales from your imagination to audiences until you find one willing to report it to the world=being exploited
I seem to recall something about a few girls from Massachusetts telling a bunch of lies in order to get attention and excuse their behavior...Salem something-or-others...
The existence of a "rape culture" requires that many people know about someone being a rapist, and doing nothing about it. I have been out of college for quite a while, but I cannot imagine such a thing. We all lived in coed dorms, and knew pretty much everything about each others lives. No one I know would have tolerated someone who forced himself on a date, acquaintance or stranger. At a bare minimum, we would have called the police. I cannot dispute that rape happens, but I find it hard to believe that it is as common as many make it out to be.
The whole "rape culture" meme rests on the idea that the culture approves of, or at least tolerates, rape. It's an obvious absurdity to claim it exists in the US.
A problem is though that 'excuse' or 'tolerate' can be seen as 'any response not as zealous as I'd like.'
It may exist in parts of the U.S.; it certainly existed in Nanking in the 1940's.
Anything's possible. But not everything is probably or likely. "Rape culture" is a huge, counter-intuitive claim to make, and it requires a ton of evidence.
No such evidence has surfaced to date, of course. But that's just because the evil patriarchy hides it so well!
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Third-wave feminism reminds me of an article I read ages ago regarding Hamas. The author suggested that the group had been so radicalized, it was more or less incapable of long-term strategy; of any strategy, really, other than kill all the Jews that you can, whenever you can. If Hamas were somehow faced with the option to 1) cease all attacks on Israel and achieve Palestinian statehood in 10 years, gauranteed, or 2) infiltrate Jerusalem tomorrow and perpetrate a record-setting bloodbath, there was no question that Hamas would choose the second every time.
I think you could make a pretty good argument that today's feminists, if somehow faced with the option to 1) abandon the rape culture narrative and secure complete equality in 10 years, guaranteed, or 2) dramatically validate Jackie's UVA story tomorrow and rain hell on every shitlord who ever doubted them, there's no question they'd vote for immediate gratification. It's why Jackie's story got published in the first place--a failure to see anything but the MOMENT. It's why the word "feminist" is increasingly synonymous with "jackass" throughout great swaths of the Republic.
They have complete equality now, but that is not what they want. They don't give a shit about equality, women, or rape. Modern feminism is far-leftism in disguise.
Their tactics are the same as they have always been, their goals the same. Disrupt and destroy the current system and replace it with a totalitarian regime run by them. And yes, down that road lies the gulag, the firing squad, and ovens. If that seems over the top then ask yourself, can you see Emily Renda making lists of people to be lined up against a wall? Taking the position that all claims of rape should be believed unequivocally, that verifying facts is being a rape-apologist, that the accused have no rights and should be dealt with as harshly as possible is exactly the mindset that gave us those things in the past. You bet your ass she would.
Very true Suthen. Feminism is fascism with tits.
"Fascism with tits"
I am stealing that.
I'm sure Emily keeps herself warm at night composing list after list in her head.
Women like her and Marcotte are despicable. A former girlfriend of mine left the movement after seeing Hanna Rosin repeatedly belittle her own son (who was then eight or nine) in her book about male obsolescence. There is no one more unnatural, vicious and bigoted than your mainstream feminist crusader. I think that their hysterical fanaticism and addiction to short-term pyrrhic victories--e.g. the Matt Taylor debacle--will ultimately lead to their undoing, but it seems very reasonable to believe them capable of every enormity imaginable in the meantime.
Not just Renda. Take someone like Merlan who used her Masters credentials to disparage Soave. People so arrogant and convinced of their own intellectual infallibility are equally as dangerous likely to open the ovens as well.
You're clearly as ignorant about Hamas (which is a political movement that was democratically elected) as you are about the range of perspectives among today's feminists.
But "jackass" does seem to apply perfectly to you.
Nah. Parade nailed them pretty well.
The name 'Hamas' means 'zeal'. They are the militarized Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. As stated in their charter they are devoted to the destruction of Israel. Their leaders have publicly stated a desire to kill all Jews and that their struggle will not end until all Jews everywhere in the world are exterminated. Their founding principle is hate and their goal is murder. That they managed to get elected says a lot about the social climate in Palestine.
So yeah, Parade is right on the money.
Robert Riversong|12.26.14 @ 10:30PM|#
"You're clearly as ignorant about Hamas (which is a political movement that was democratically elected)"
Why do the defenders of a slimy organization continue to float the half-truth of 'elected'?
I'm not going to do the search right now, but the victory was something like a 2% plurality in the 50% who voted.
And then, RR is posting on a libertarian site; does RR hope that we find democracy, qua democracy, a positive value?
US presidents are routinely elected by a majority of a minority who bother to vote. The Palestinian election which put Hamas in power was far more democratic than anything in American politics.
And Hamas is more respected by Palestinians - in both Gaza and the West Bank, than the PLO/Fatah.
YOU DON'T KNOW ME.
Just kidding. But seriously, if I'm unfamiliar with the astonishing range of perspectives among today's feminists, it probably has something to do with the fact that the national conversation--on campus, on twitter, on cable, online--is ferociously dominated by the rape culture perspective.
Regarding Hamas, they may have been democrats once, but they sure ain't now.
Your linked article is very impressive, btw. It's an amazing resource, and I've already forwarded it to about 20 people.
Do you know who else was democratically elected? (I guess the usual suspects are sleeping off the Christmas eggnog. Usually there are about the different people asking this important question)
Robert,
You're a clown.
A clown that supports a stupid meme in defense of a terrorist organization.
If you believe they were 'democratically elected' then you probably believe Castro is a democrat.
And most of those perspectives are utterly insane.
The most sensible feminists - Christina Hoof Sommers, Camille Paglia, et al. - get shunned by the rest of the movement. Face it, radical (bigoted, illiberal) feminism is now the mainstream. "Range of perspectives", wonderful, go tell a Jew about the range of perspectives in the Nazi party, tell a Jew about how much better it would have been if only Gregor Strasser had taken over instead of the Austrian corporal.
I was astonished to see that this article is still posted at Rolling Stone website. It has some wording about "there now appear to be discrepancies ", but OMG why is it still up? RS deserves to be sued.
"It has some wording about "there now appear to be discrepancies""
Well, the Titanic also had a bit of a leak, so there's that.
I was astonished to see that this article is still posted at Rolling Stone website. It has some wording about "there now appear to be discrepancies ", but OMG why is it still up? RS deserves to be sued.
LEts roll with it dude, I mean like seriously.
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For the complete story of the now infamous Rolling Stone article on the alleged U-VA gang rape, its fallout, the media firestorm of criticism, the apology, and the demagoguery of those radical feminists who refuse to apologize for propagating the myth of "rape culture" and the meme of "victim culture", see: Yellow Journalism and the Meme of "Rape Culture" - Rolling Stone and U-VA Gang Rape http://riversong.wordpress.com.....e-culture/
For the backstory on Sabrina Rubin Erdely's entire journalism career built on fictions and half-truths, see: Journalistic Fabulism and Ideological Agendas ? the Sabrina Rubin Erdely Story http://riversong.wordpress.com.....l-agendas/
For the history of the shift of the Women's Rights Movement from an egalitarian to a totalitarian one, see: When Progressive Social Change Becomes Regressive Ideology: From Women's Liberation to Cultural Misandry http://riversong.wordpress.com.....-ideology/
For an in-depth expose of the evolution of universities from institutions of higher learning into witch-hunt tribunals for the "rape culture" advocates, see: New Puritanism ? New Paternalism: The "Rape Culture" Narrative Demeans Women, Demonizes Men, and Turns Universities into Witch Hunt Tribunals http://riversong.wordpress.com.....ternalism/
THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM?! ONE MORE FTW
Uh, GILMORE, I think there were distinct links above...
Cool story, bro
What a splendid example of blogwhoring! Jumps in with a fist-swinging first-time post, then follows up with two posts expecting us to be interested in his blog. A delightful combination of arrogance and obliviousness.
Excellent article.
The only part I disagree with is "...she did not falsely accuse any actual men..."
Jackie, Sabrina Ederly and Rolling Stone accused members of Phi Kappa Psi of committing a horrific rape. Jackie, Ederly and Rolling Stone should all be held accountable for the damage they have done.
There's not much evolutionary logic behind 'rape culture'. It takes an extraordinary length of time, compared to other mammals, for a human to grow up to be independent. About 12 to 15 years in days gone by, but 35 years now. A man will not put much, if any, effort into raising a child that is not his own by choice. (By choice, he might adopt a child or take one in from a relative who has died.)
In extreme conditions, such as after the Russians conquered Dresden, at the close of WWII, many of the rape babies were left by the side of the road, as if it were a famine during the middle ages when parents had to choose among their children for survivors.
There's nothing in a man's self-interest to promote rape. Unless he's crazy or keeps his victims captive in a harem as seems to be the radical muslim method, but I repeat myself.
widget|12.26.14 @ 11:17PM|#
"There's not much evolutionary logic behind 'rape culture'. [...] There's nothing in a man's self-interest to promote rape. Unless he's crazy or keeps his victims captive in a harem as seems to be the radical muslim method, but I repeat myself."
Disagreed.
If you view evolution as the drive of the 'selfish gene' (per Dawkins), there is every incentive for the male to deposit seed over as much fertile ground as possible; maybe one will succeed.
Conversely, there is every incentive for the female to deny access to that ground absent a commitment to provide support through that long development you mention.
Civilization, not evolutionary pressures, limits rape.
Civilization, not evolutionary pressures, limits rape.
Now that I finished the banana, this can't be. Cart before the horse.
"Cart before the horse."
How so?
The horse eats. The cart doesn't.
I see your point. A man does not want his own wife to be raped but he could be OK with raping another man's wife or his virgin daughter.
*eats a banana*
But aren't like 25% of the people in Asia (or some ridiculous number) descendants of Geghis Khan?
Worked for him.
Misandrony is what it's about.
Thing that pisses me off is there is an honest to goodness rape culture in the US, but it certainly aint on college campuses. US prisons are a place where rape is expected, tolerated, joked about, and in many cases lauded by the general public; where the victims are mocked, disbelieved, or expected to put up with it as a normal part of their life, but the SJWs don't give two shits about the real deal.
That is the ultimate folly of the leftoids: disregard of reality in favor of the unreal.
That is an excellent point. I would be comfortable calling that "rape culture".
That's because the leftists and SJWs were brought up watching Law and Order SVU and so believe that getting raped in prison is a just part of the (male) criminal's punishment, as is regularly insinuated in that horrid show.
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From the Scottsboro boys through Tawana Brawley and the Duke lacrosse team to "Jackie', rape hoaxes have been believed by people whose prejudices they buttressed. As long as they have those prejudices, they will continue to believe convenient rape hoaxes, and often even denounce even the slightest skepticism about them.
This is a movement that has capitalized on laudable sympathy for victims of sexual assault to promote gender warfare, misinformation and moral panic.
Heck, I thought that was the basis for every political action since the Civil War.
Sending your daughter to an institution where there is a 1 in five chance of being sexually abused is in itself child abuse. If Democrat politicians and feminists actually believe that statistic the first words out of their mouths would be; "do not send your children to these rape schools until we can replace the incompetent administrators and increase campus security".
What is their solution? Remove males from the public arena which was the point in the first place.
Males vote individualistic, female vote collectivist.
The progressive agenda is a liberty war, a gender war, and a war on religion. Aka Statism, feminism, atheism.
I know many of you here are atheists and oppose feminism/statism, but think about it: how can you enslave a population who is free in their mind to believe existential fantasies? That is still a measure of liberty, which cannot be overtly controlled. It can and will lead to hope, and symbolizes a threat to the Oligarchs.
Assignation of metaphysical meaning is just the 3rd estate of total war.
It's all the same movement embodied thru the 3 spheres of politics, culture, and metaphysics. All 3 the same monster.
1. violence and law
2. culture and economy
3. psyops and radical skepticism (including derangement against NAP)
It's not the least bit accidental that feminism is primarily concerned with social norms and $. Raping a husband's wallet is partially the point, along with the horrible poverty single mothers consign their children to. Now feminism wants healthcare to be a gender subsidy scam. It's fundamentally the same beast as statism and atheism, it just has a different grotto to swim in. Body, heart, mind; 3 heads of the same beast.
Nice straw man manipulation of reality.
True progressivism has always been aimed at greater personal liberty balanced by greater collective responsibility (as liberty is impossible without restraint), while conservatism has always been about mixing religion with the corporatist state and hence fascism.
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For the complete story of the now infamous Rolling Stone article on the alleged U-VA gang rape, its fallout, the media firestorm of criticism, the apology, and the demagoguery of those radical feminists who refuse to apologize for propagating the myth of "rape culture" and the meme of "victim culture", see: Yellow Journalism and the Meme of "Rape Culture" - Rolling Stone and U-VA Gang Rape http://riversong.wordpress.com.....e-culture/
For the backstory on Sabrina Rubin Erdely's entire journalism career built on fictions and half-truths, see: Journalistic Fabulism and Ideological Agendas ? the Sabrina Rubin Erdely Story http://riversong.wordpress.com.....l-agendas/
For the history of the shift of the Women's Rights Movement from an egalitarian to a totalitarian one, see: When Progressive Social Change Becomes Regressive Ideology: From Women's Liberation to Cultural Misandry http://riversong.wordpress.com.....-ideology/
For an in-depth expose of the evolution of universities from institutions of higher learning into witch-hunt tribunals for the "rape culture" advocates, see: New Puritanism ? New Paternalism: The "Rape Culture" Narrative Demeans Women, Demonizes Men, and Turns Universities into Witch Hunt Tribunals http://riversong.wordpress.com.....ternalism/
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There will be no realistic accredited numbers as far as I'm concerned, until colleges are required by law to report rape cases directly to their local authorities. This probably would have deterred Mz. Jackie
from embellishing or; from downright fabricating a story, even if it was to her(then)personal friends. Internal investigations like those conducted by our Armed Services are always going to be strife with inconsistencies. Colleges and Universities need clear, concise guidelines for the victim and the accused.
I'm sitting here thinking Bill Cosby alone, skewed those stats.
I do not mean to make light of something so heinous, I have known of a few of these cases involving college kids which transpired outside of a campus environment. Two boys were given sentences (involving a minor) and my heart broke for their parents.
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As usual, Cathy Young, writing for Reason magazine is ... reasonable. Sheesh, you're never going to score in the click bate finals if you keep this up. Find some contrived controversy and fabricate something on flimsy evidence. Just my advice.